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(Chicago Tribune)   Chicago high school anti-violence rally disrupted by violence   (chicagotribune.com) divider line 144
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2008-04-04 02:50:10 AM
Kids are dumb.
 
2008-04-04 02:51:23 AM
content.pyzam.com
 
2008-04-04 02:51:36 AM
Phil McKraken: Kids are dumb.

I think I read that somewhere.
 
2008-04-04 02:51:47 AM
Solution is to conglomerate during a week that has been particularly violent? Seems like this was inevitable.
 
2008-04-04 02:54:37 AM
I hate to say it, but they had it comin'.
 
2008-04-04 02:55:00 AM
why do people hate violence?
 
2008-04-04 02:55:34 AM
Anti-violence rallies always turn violent. It's an invariable law of metaphysics, or some other such fancy talk that will get you beaten up at an anti-violence rally.
 
2008-04-04 02:55:51 AM
Hire ninjas for guards.
 
2008-04-04 02:56:32 AM
Disrupted?

Or enhanced?
 
2008-04-04 02:58:31 AM
Urban hispanics and blacks, please get your shiat together. It's getting ridiculous.
 
2008-04-04 02:59:41 AM
The school's principal, Florence Gonzales, had scheduled a meeting with parents to discuss the violence issue but it was abruptly canceled, angering parents who were demanding to hear from school officials.

She's not listening, and won't listen until you flip over her car and burn down the school. Get your pitchforks, damn it!
 
2008-04-04 03:02:19 AM
Latin Kings? Those bunch of pussies. Not a damned one of them can fight. They always got their asses kicked at the prison I wan in for a year. Nobody liked them because of how retarded they acted (not to mention the stupid rules for joining their gang which even they didn't follow.)

Latin Kings are nothing more than wannabe QUEENS. Period.
 
2008-04-04 03:05:06 AM
I am bitterly disappointed at the lack of "Not Ironic" posts.
 
2008-04-04 03:07:30 AM
Not ironic.
Expected.

Reps to maintain and all.
 
2008-04-04 03:08:46 AM
khyberkitsune: Latin Kings are nothing more than wannabe QUEENS. Period.

Oooh, sounds like we have a Gangster Disciple in da house.

FIGHT!
 
2008-04-04 03:12:06 AM
This is farking sad. It's happening in my own city. The downtown rally that happened the other day focused on banning or further restricting guns in the city. The truth is that, although guns are the most popular tool for these goddamn cowardly gangbangers, it doesn't address the root cause of what's causing the acts of violence in the first place.

I've often hoped someone would chloroform and drag these gang members off to a bunker, where they are stripped naked, shaved of all their body hair, their faces tattooed permanently with "GANGBANGER SCUM" or something like that, then driven back to their neighborhood (or a rival 'hood) and handcuffed still naked to a lamppost. In below-zero weather.

/teen hormones + poverty + access to guns = bloodbath
//flame away, fellow farkers...
 
2008-04-04 03:13:22 AM
that_boy_Al_Bundy: Urban hispanics and blacks, please get your shiat together. It's getting ridiculous.

Oh, it looks like the fark racists are out later tonight. Face, instead of just blaming these people, we should be spending more money on helping them breaking the cycle of violence. Perhaps if we started spending real money on education instead of ways to blow brown people up, we'd be better off.
 
2008-04-04 03:15:37 AM
this makes me so farking mad!
 
2008-04-04 03:16:02 AM
Ironic Tag!

Win!
 
2008-04-04 03:16:17 AM
i234.photobucket.com
 
2008-04-04 03:19:54 AM
FTA: Parents and students had gathered at 3 p.m. to protest what they said has been escalating violence between black and Latino students at the school

Hmm, maybe they'll eliminate each other.
 
2008-04-04 03:23:58 AM
Didn't take long for the racist label to get thrown out, please notice the urban modifier I placed in my statement, and please elaborate on how income could be better redistributed in order to help these poor, misunderstood individuals.
 
2008-04-04 03:24:55 AM
I'd like to go to a Chicago abstinence rally.
 
2008-04-04 03:29:41 AM
boobsrgood: I'd like to go to a Chicago abstinence rally.

This may be the greatest statement I've seen on Fark.
 
Biv
2008-04-04 03:32:39 AM
Remove all Republicans: that_boy_Al_Bundy: Urban hispanics and blacks, please get your shiat together. It's getting ridiculous.

Oh, it looks like the fark racists are out later tonight. Face, instead of just blaming these people, we should be spending more money on helping them breaking the cycle of violence. Perhaps if we started spending real money on education instead of ways to blow brown people up, we'd be better off.


How the hell do you educate a culture that abhors education. And his comment wasn't racist. Race is the issue here and if you don't see that you are in denial. As long as ghetto culture continues to be tolerated this will continue to be a problem.
 
2008-04-04 03:37:18 AM
FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!
flann4.files.wordpress.com
 
2008-04-04 03:37:51 AM
thats NOT irony! gah when will fark learn, if the guy who'd organised the anti violent protest had been the instigator then it would be ironic.

I dont know why misused ironic tags bug me so much, but they do, get it right! :P
 
2008-04-04 03:41:16 AM
FTA: The protest came on the heels of a larger rally Chicago Public Schools held earlier this week calling for an end to the shootings that have claimed 20 students this year.

Damn....just...damn. And the kids from Dawson's Creek thought high school was tough... (they were in HS right? I never watched that show...)
 
2008-04-04 03:45:09 AM
that_boy_Al_Bundy: Didn't take long for the racist label to get thrown out, please notice the urban modifier I placed in my statement

then why not just say "Urban youths, please get your shiat together. It's getting ridiculous."?
 
2008-04-04 03:46:13 AM
khyberkitsune: Latin Kings? Those bunch of pussies. Not a damned one of them can fight. They always got their asses kicked at the prison I was in for a year. Nobody liked them because of how retarded they acted (not to mention the stupid rules for joining their gang which even they didn't follow.)

Latin Kings are nothing more than wannabe QUEENS. Period.


I think this is going to be the gayest post in the thread. NTTAWWT.

/it's prison gay, though...
 
2008-04-04 03:47:08 AM
Irony would be if the rally had been disrupted by hare krishna
 
2008-04-04 03:52:31 AM
log_jammin: that_boy_Al_Bundy: Didn't take long for the racist label to get thrown out, please notice the urban modifier I placed in my statement

then why not just say "Urban youths, please get your shiat together. It's getting ridiculous."?


Well buddy, you just don't hear about groups of white or asian students getting rowdy like this do you? It would be unfair to group them in with this, and I would hate to hurt anyones feelings.
 
2008-04-04 03:53:51 AM
I was watching gangland the other day, and thought to myself, "Why doesn't someone or a group of people just start executing random gang members out on the streets." At first, they'll obviously retaliate back, but if you kill enough of them you might have a chance at scaring the others straight, or at least away from that sort of lifestyle. It's obvious that the law enforcement system is not as effective as most Samaritans would like it to be, and the problem is only going to get worse since gang memberships are still greatly increasing.

Then I started thinking logically and rationally again.

/but still, something needs to be done.
//On a serious note, I don't condone an "eye for an eye" mentality, nor do I approve of fighting violence with more violence.
///How do you help & educate those who are so lost that violence is the only life they know?
 
2008-04-04 03:59:04 AM
that_boy_Al_Bundy:
Well buddy, you just don't hear about groups of white or asian students getting rowdy like this do you? It would be unfair to group them in with this, and I would hate to hurt anyones feelings.


Actually the one big fight I saw at school was a big group of Asian kids. So yeah, it happens. They all circled this kid and started punching him up against the school bus.
 
2008-04-04 04:03:53 AM
that_boy_Al_Bundy: Well buddy, you just don't hear about groups of white or asian students getting rowdy like this do you?

so it IS about race. thanks for clarifying.
 
2008-04-04 04:05:15 AM
Where's Judge Dredd when you need him?

/Not Sylvester Stallone's Dredd, though
//The bad-ass one
///Slashies are the Law
 
2008-04-04 04:10:30 AM
log_jammin: that_boy_Al_Bundy: Well buddy, you just don't hear about groups of white or asian students getting rowdy like this do you?

so it IS about race. thanks for clarifying.


Yeah, It is, in an urban context, I thought I had made that clear. You going to go tell on me now?
 
2008-04-04 04:15:18 AM
that_boy_Al_Bundy: Yeah, It is, in an urban context, I thought I had made that clear.

You did make it clear. Urban Blacks and Hispanics need to get their shiat together. Urban Whites and other races (and I guess country folk of all races) are just fine.

You going to go tell on me now?

not yet.
 
2008-04-04 04:19:44 AM
Remove all Republicans

Oh, it looks like the fark racists are out later tonight. Face, instead of just blaming these people, we should be spending more money on helping them breaking the cycle of violence. Perhaps if we started spending real money on education instead of ways to blow brown people up, we'd be better off.


To deny there is a cultural connection to the violence of the inner city is to deny reality. I have lived in majority black neighborhoods all my life and the shared traits of subcultures tend to follow income not skin color. I found that there are fewer intact (male lead) families in the inner city which leaves young boys without the guidance it takes to become a young man. Gangs take advantage of this situation by selling themselves as "the family they never had" to these kids who then dedicate their lives to the gang. The problem starts in the home a government check is not going to fix a broken culture.
 
2008-04-04 04:20:16 AM
Yes!!! I love it!
 
2008-04-04 04:24:16 AM
Biv
"Race is the issue here and if you don't see that you are in denial. As long as ghetto culture continues to be tolerated this will continue to be a problem."


I agree that it is a problem of culture (ghetto culture), however I disagree that it is an issue of race.
 
2008-04-04 04:26:56 AM
Brother, I wish it wasn't true, but there can be no argument that inner-city blacks and hispanics have serious problems, if these problems could be improved, our country (I'm assuming you're an American) would be improved immeasurably. Unfortunately any criticism of a minority is shouted down and the speaker is dismissed as a racist, whether the speaker is a member of a minority or not.
 
2008-04-04 04:32:38 AM
that_boy_Al_Bundy: Unfortunately any criticism of a minority is shouted down and the speaker is dismissed as a racist

I'm from the rule midwest. Trust me, I know racism.

the problem is that you're assuming the "minority" is the problem. You didn't say poverty, gang violence, high divorce rates, etc. you just said "Urban Blacks and Hispanics".
 
Biv
2008-04-04 04:36:45 AM
cabal08: Biv
"Race is the issue here and if you don't see that you are in denial. As long as ghetto culture continues to be tolerated this will continue to be a problem."

I agree that it is a problem of culture (ghetto culture), however I disagree that it is an issue of race.


Well lets see. Ghetto culture was created by blacks and Hispanics and is almost exclusively found in black and Hispanic communities. And since this was a black gang versus a Latino gang, I'd say race most certainly is an issue.

Whites have their own issues, to be sure, but ghetto/gang/hip-hop culture is not generally one of them. We sit in trailers and beat our wives or snipe people from clock towers.
 
2008-04-04 04:38:01 AM
errr..."rural"

see how country I am???
 
2008-04-04 04:43:43 AM
Biv: Ghetto culture was created by blacks and Hispanics and is almost exclusively found in black and Hispanic communities.

and what is "ghetto culture"? Difficulty: without mentioning Hip Hop or rap.

because I'm 99% certain the Irish had a big head start on "Ghetto culture" and gangs.
 
2008-04-04 04:47:33 AM
The reason I've included asians into my posts is to illustrate the fact that it's not the minority that is the problem, while a smaller "minority" than either blacks or hispanics, asians excel and face a fraction, if any, of the racism that other groups face. Did asians arrive in the US on equal footing with whites? Asians were discriminated against to a shameful degree, while not as drastic as blacks, certainly to a comparable degree as hispanics, and look at asians today, if anything they receive positive discrimination. All the problems you stated in your above post are prevelant problems in black and hispanic communities, who's fault is that.
 
2008-04-04 04:55:55 AM
that_boy_Al_Bundy: All the problems you stated in your above post are prevelant problems in black and hispanic communities, who's fault is that.

you claimed it was just a problem with "urban" Blacks and Hispanics. But I see rural poverty, gang violence, high divorce rates, etc. too.

The only difference is all of those issue are concentrated into a smaller area.
 
2008-04-04 04:57:06 AM
There are lots of factors in this kind of violence, and race IS one of them. This story was about Black and Hispanic gangs, but it could have been Black/White, White/Asian, Asian/Hispanic,etc. I can't remember any stories about "mixed" gangs (although I'm sure someone will find one for us), so why try to deny that race is an integral part of the situation? Its not being racist, its being honest.
 
2008-04-04 05:04:02 AM
Maybe this will force blacks out of 2nd class, and they will start censoring black derogatory words for Latinos.
 
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