subby: "Is being successful, i.e. having money, that important?"


Not if you wanna live in a van, down by the river!

buckler: Hunny-pie here will learn soon...

Condescending much?

**See Maslow(who committed suicide)'s Hierarchy of Needs.

/need a hug
//give yourself one

An tSaoi: Anyone have any tips on how to make a bundle?

I have a foolproof program that's guaranteed to make $1000.per transaction. For details, send me $1000.00

Carl Childers: buckler: Hunny-pie here will learn soon...

Condescending much?

Just a little...bad week, etc.

**See Maslow(who committed suicide)'s Hierarchy of Needs.

/need a hug
//give yourself one

Eh. Got Plenty for everyone. You too.

Can'tLetYouDoThatStarFox: rhelaien: 6 years of college and a Bachelor of Science in the Arts later -- I would tell any high school senior to go to Votech school. Become an electrician, a carpenter, a nurse if you can do the work. You'll always find a job somewhere. And that will put food on the table and pay the bills.

My grandfather was a carpenter. He never had lots of money, but when I drove around with him, on every other street there would be a house he built or a business he installed this or that for. He had a story about every one and was friends with most of the people he worked for. Things like that can be really rewarding jobs. Even though he was retired, he kept working carpentry with my uncle right up until he died because he loved it. How many people who work in a cubicle would do that...

I work at Krispie Kreme working in donut production earning about $8 an hour. A while ago I did the math and figured I am responsible for feeding at the very least about 900 people a week. That, on top of the fact that it's pretty challenging and the fact that I get to fark around with industrial equipment all day made me realize that I really like my job.

It's not what I picture myself doing all of my life, but I can't say that there is a lot of shame in a "just in it for the money" jobs. Or "McJobs" as the assholes writers at Adbusters call it.

Melgania
But I don't think it should be something that's socially and culturally encouraged as a realistic goal for everyone. Most of the work that society needs done is a relatively routine, mind-numbing grind.

Exactly. Someone has to produce all those TPS reports... Seriously though, it is true. Kids that age are told just to follow their dreams, and though few dream of being in middle management at some bank or fantasize about working on Excel spreadsheets all day, that's closer to the reality for most. When I was still in school (pre-www, alas) my mum made me read through professional job ads in the newspaper so I had a clue as to what future employers would be asking for.

tomhath
I say reach for the stars. How amazing would one seem if they were a model, yet had a law degree?
Thoughts like that reinforce why there are statutory rape laws. Teenager minds just aren't all there yet.

Hee hee... well put.

Tat'dGreaser: My point is people can find places where those prices are less. They may decide to not have a phone or have a low cost plan. The problem I have is you are so quick to judge this young lady who seems to be using her head to try and figure out her life. She's not the kind of person (believe me, I see them a lot) who thinks they are going to go become a famous photographer or painter and then wonder why they are starving, all while buying a brand new plasma screen tv and a new car.

The point is some people can be happy living in less then standard environments. Also, it just makes you sound like a jerk when you say "Hey little girl, this is what big people do". She's 17, not 5.

She starts out her sentences with "my junior friends and I " and " My friend Christina and I ". That's not big girl talk, that's 5 year old talk. That's a lack of independent thought. That's typical teenager.

The world is a great big place filled with different paths, some fun, some not so fun. The fun ones dont tend to pay too well. The not so fun ones pay better. That's life. All I'm saying is that it's possible to take the not so fun ones (i.e. work your ass off in college) get a good paying job and still have a good life. Not everyone turns into a materialistic jerk.

The attitude that money is evil is wrong. Money is a tool, a necessary one at that. How you use it, or misuse it is where the evil comes in.

Money is only important if you don't have any.

Limeade: OK I read maybe 2 or 3 paragraphs of that. I didn't know what I wanted to go to college for when I was 17 (and my parents didn't push me to know, and I had to set it all up and pay for it myself). I'm now 35 and only now picked a good career, after wasting time and money in things I found out I hated or "undeclared" majors. I still don't understand how 17-year-olds are supposed to know what career to go for. Even though it would be good if they did. I go to school with 22-year-olds (nursing school) who are no less capable of being an RN than I am. I couldn't have been an RN when I was 22.

Oh holy crap THIS. This is almost exactly like the situation I'm currently in. I'm 37 and going back to school in the fall for the 4th time, now that I've finally figured it out. I'm lucky that my husband makes very good money, and we can afford to do this. For me, it's not so much about a higher paying career as it is about DOING something with my life.

/forensics ftw

the secret is to have the money AND not give a shiat about it.
Don't get wrapped up in the pursuit of more and more, and don't live in a cardboard box. Find your happiness in between.

Money can't buy happiness it's true.

But what it can't buy, I can't use.

Why should and why do intelligent people often limit themselves to jobs in business or accounting or engineering?

I wish someone would have told me that engineering was for intelligent people. No wonder I'm getting my ass kicked by ECE340.

/fark off Fourier
//and spectrums
///and most of all my horrible professor

212 comments so quickly?
Not about evolution.
Not about god.
What is it? Success?



I didn't expect anyone to read this without a picture.

A0Z: 212 comments so quickly?
Not about evolution.
Not about god.
What is it? Success?



I didn't expect anyone to read this without a picture.

...and when you post a picture of that epic-ness don't expect me to read a damn word you say.

/seriously, those are awesome.

Pretty much sums up this thread.

I had an art teacher tell me that in high school. I ended up going into engy school.

TMBGfreak: Passion won't get you through science at all. It gets people into it, but that's a big reason why there is such a huge dropout rate. Passion doesn't get you through 3AM memorization of math that you cannot ever figure out will apply to what you do. I suppose it does help you to remember the end goal, but science is a grueling world with little to no glory filled mostly with proving the mundane. If you're good you'll figure out a little nuance to some theory that has already been figured out. The whole Richard Feynman idea of a rockstar scientist is an amazing idea, but it is incredibly rare.

That's just not true. Ok, since you're reading this on Fark you won't become the new Feynman, but science is not proving the mundane. A lot of it goes against intuition, for one. Then there's so much yet to be discovered: new species continue getting found, the brain is still largely a mystery and so is the sun. Lastly, math makes you smarter.

Ilmarinen:
That's just not true. Ok, since you're reading this on Fark you won't become the new Feynman, but science is not proving the mundane. A lot of it goes against intuition, for one. Then there's so much yet to be discovered: new species continue getting found, the brain is still largely a mystery and so is the sun. Lastly, math makes you smarter.

Science and math are fun.

If you suck at life.

/go back in time
//tell madame curie she will die as a result of her research
///see what happens

You need enough money to get physical necessities: heat, food, clean water, porn, etc.

If you have more than that you enter the trap: middle class. It is defined by dreaming of being rich every day with no chance of ever getting there, and stressing out until Prozac leads to Viagra, then dying.

Or you could be born rich and laugh at everyone. This is why I admire porn stars and vagabonds. Two groups who got it right.

FarkLiter: This is exactly why no one should ever listen to 17 year olds. The harder they try to be deep, the more they end up saying things that will look incredibly silly to them in 10 years.

I thank god every day that when I was 17 there was no internet to record every stupid thought I had, so that I don't have to look back at them and hang my head in shame now.

Quote for life.

DAShredda

I would tend to agree, maybe it's nigh time I quit farking

We are here to overcome the illusion of separateness.

TMBGfreak: Passion doesn't get you through 3AM memorization of math that you cannot ever figure out will apply to what you do.

I've used every bit of math I learned in college and then went and learned some more after I had that degree. You know why? Because I looked for things to do at work that applied what I'd learned. My only regret in college was that I didn't take more statistics classes. It would have been easier to learn that stuff in a classroom setting that teaching myself.

A0Z:

I didn't know why I came in here until I saw the EPIC BOOBS pic.

/Win.
//fap.
///fapfapfapfapfapfap.

Once we get the pills that turn on and off Autism we can be engineers with extreme attention to detail, and then enjoy ourselves as partying socialites who love working with people.

Happiness is just a mix of chemicals. Too bad we're much too stupid to go messing about without side effects.

Man, what's it feel like to be dead inside, several people in this thread? Did it hurt when the weight of the world crushed you, or were you already basically numb by then? Can you remember approximately when it happened or was it kind of a gradual thing that came as a sudden realization one day?

/Nonspecific bolding reply

Man On Pink Corner: DaShredda /tell madame curie she will die as a result of her research

What do you think would happen?

She'd start working the streets and enjoy her life.

A "precious snowflake" would whine about deserving a nice car, huge house, elaborate vacations without having to work for them.

This is just some kid talking about wanting to work not-so-hard for not alot of money.

Subby fails.

I RTFA, but not all the fark comments, so if it's already been stated, my bad.

However, I find it really odd that they haven't considered that perhaps those who choose to go into business, accounting, or engineering do so because they enjoy that field.

I mean, I love programming. My wife loves accounting. We're perfectly happy to do these things for a living.

The fact that it makes gobs of cash? Secondary. Granted, it's a rather nice secondary, but it's still secondary. If I'd preferred writing or what have you over programming, I might have tried that instead. My wife was going to major in chemical engineering before she realized she loved the crap out of accounting.

But you have to leave something for retirement, eh? So when we're old and gray, we can write marginally accurate (and barely readable) books about building engines out of cornflakes and chamomile, and give the young'uns something to do on a fair summer's night.

That, or we'll just laugh at the kids via our sat links while touring the Bahamas on boats built with and/or of our gobs and gobs of cash.

1. Money makes life easier
2. An easy life is not always equal to a happy life.
3. Therefore, money does not bring happiness.

That is one of two things I've discovered are pretty much universal throughout cultures and religions. The other? Reciprocity.

/19 years old
//too much reading/thinking
///college students are stupid...generally.
////"Precious 17-year-old high school snowflake" = jailbait (my first thought reading headline)

DaShredda: Pretty much sums up this thread.

Pretty much sums up Fark.

voyvf: However, I find it really odd that they haven't considered that perhaps those who choose to go into business, accounting, or engineering do so because they enjoy that field.

As a "organization management" professor once said, "I could have majored in Sociology, but then I'd be in a different building teaching the same stuff for half the money."

Although I have known since junior high school that I want to attend a university and later have a career in fashion

NEXT

Ilmarinen: That's just not true. Ok, since you're reading this on Fark you won't become the new Feynman, but science is not proving the mundane. A lot of it goes against intuition, for one. Then there's so much yet to be discovered: new species continue getting found, the brain is still largely a mystery and so is the sun. Lastly, math makes you smarter.

He's not talking about books about quasars you take out of the library or dissing "science" as a whole. He's talking about the kinds of jobs 99% of scientists and engineers work every day. I've been there, done that, bought the t-shirt, and yes, they are extremely mundane lines of work, generally speaking. Anybody who tells you differently is one of the extremely fortunate 1% who get to work on ground-breaking stuff or more likely somebody who is just kidding themselves that their work is important or novel because their kids get a kick out of dad telling them he works on rockets when really he just works on bolt #1765-A and fills out spreadsheets.

Soupysales: What is it with girls and their obsession with fashion and horses?

If they could somehow combine these interests, I'm sure they could convince the hyper-rich to part with some of their cash in exchange for fashionable apparel for their race horses...

I really wanted to know what this 17-year-old high school snowflake's penis opinion is....



Seriously, though... If I could go back to my 17 year old self, I'd say: don't go to college as much as you did. Study a trade, then be frugal enough to save for half the year while working, then travel every six months.

/I think I'm going to take that advice now...

Soupysales: What is it with girls and their obsession with fashion and horses?

Well I can answer the horse question, which I find obvious, but you may find the answer a little rude...

klepto21: Soupysales: What is it with girls and their obsession with fashion and horses?

Well I can answer the horse question, which I find obvious, but you may find the answer a little rude...

http://sbullockdemandssatisfaction.ytmnd.com/

klparrot
Circumstances in which "precious snowflake" is appropriate in a headline:
The kid has done something (usually involving sex, drugs, or criminal activity) that their parents wouldn't believe happened, because their "precious snowflake" "would never do that sort of thing."

I thought those were 'crotchfruit'...

"PRECIOUS SNOWFLAKE" SHOULD BE RESERVED FOR OVERBEARING, HELICOPTER PARENTS.

/that is all
//no, that's not all... i think the admins keep greenlighting them just to piss us off. stop it, admins.

FarkLiter: This is exactly why no one should ever listen to 17 year olds. The harder they try to be deep, the more they end up saying things that will look incredibly silly to them in 10 years.

I thank god every day that when I was 17 there was no internet to record every stupid thought I had, so that I don't have to look back at them and hang my head in shame now.

Personally, I don't think anyone should ever listen to you.

As a rule a man's a fool.

When it's hot he wants it cool.

And when it's cool he wants it hot.

Always wanting what is not.

/not mine

Soupysales: What is it with girls and their obsession with fashion and horses?

I'm pretty sure the reason girls love fashion so much is because they love ornamentation and the reason girls love horses so much is because they love to fark horses.

FarkLiter: This is exactly why no one should ever listen to 17 year olds. The harder they try to be deep, the more they end up saying things that will look incredibly silly to them in 10 years.

This is why I wrote my valedictorian address about Kermit the Frog. I knew it was going to sound ridiculous in 10 years no matter how deep I tried to be, so instead I got smammered with a couple of my best friends. Much better way to spend my time.