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2008-04-02 07:40:05 PM
Bullshiat.
 
2008-04-02 07:42:27 PM
Pulling numbers outta our asses is fun for the whole family!
 
2008-04-02 07:44:53 PM
Nice grammar, submitter.

I'm thinking you should have spent more time inside a school and less time outside falling on your head.
 
2008-04-02 07:46:33 PM
One quarter of nanny state children have divorced parents who will sue the crap out of the other if their snowflake gets hurt while in their custody.

Media "statistics" are about as reliable as a Yugo.
 
2008-04-02 08:20:54 PM
I was wondering when Brits would get around to evolving into the whole Morlock/Eloi thing.
 
2008-04-02 08:31:12 PM
I wanna play cricket on the green
Ride my bike across the street
Cut myself & see some blood
I wanna come home all covered in mud


starling.rinet.ru
 
2008-04-02 09:02:51 PM
First line of the article:

"A quarter of all children between eight and ten have never played outside without adult supervision, ministers will admit today."

Still damn wussy, but still.

Now THIS is the real scary one:

One in three parents will not even allow older children, aged eight to 17, to play outside the house or garden.

WHAT THE HELL?
 
2008-04-02 09:27:12 PM
The only thing I got from this article is that British people call their sh*tty backyards "The Garden." I think this sounds nice in an aristocratic sort of way, so I'm going to do what I can to introduce this vernacular phenomenon here in the U.S.,.

/posting this via WiFi from The Garden
 
2008-04-02 09:46:52 PM
CtrlAltDelete: /posting this via WiFi from The Garden

For the love of all that's holy, ARE YOU BEING SUPERVISED BY AN ADULT?
 
2008-04-02 09:48:22 PM
Solid State Vittles: For the love of all that's holy, ARE YOU BEING SUPERVISED BY AN ADULT?

OH JESUS, NO!!

*runs back inside*
 
2008-04-03 04:27:16 AM
Mr. Balls.
I couldn't read any farther.
 
2008-04-03 04:28:03 AM
ducTape: One quarter of nanny state children have divorced parents who will sue the crap out of the other if their snowflake gets hurt while in their custody.

Media "statistics" are about as reliable as a Yugo.


What did you expect from the daily mail?
 
2008-04-03 04:30:34 AM
CtrlAltDelete: The only thing I got from this article is that British people call their sh*tty backyards "The Garden."

If it small, with a hard surface (concrete/flags etc) it is called a yard. If it has flowerbeds and/or a lawn it is a garden.

My house has a front yard, and a back garden.
 
2008-04-03 04:30:44 AM
Bullshiat. Next article please.
 
2008-04-03 04:36:42 AM
I want everyone here from America that is over 20 years old to stop and think.

Think about what childhood was like when we were kids. Think about how, as you've gotten older, you've watched the things we used to do (and still turned out okay) be called dangerous and a serious threat to our safety. Think about how you've heard of the things we used to do getting banned across the nation.

Now, you tell me, that you don't think statistics like the ones in that article, and possibly even worse "statistics" then that, aren't very likely to happen, whether it be in the UK or here.
 
2008-04-03 04:36:45 AM
FTA Research has found that the average age at which children are allowed outside without adult supervision has risen from around seven years in the 1960s and 70s to just over eight years now.

OMG that is a huge leap over the last 40 years.
 
2008-04-03 04:37:27 AM
If this is even remotely true this is a tragedy.


Sure, I was very well supervised as a kid, but I was allowed to play in my yard, unsupervised, regardless.

Yay commas!

And LOL at the Daily Mail
 
2008-04-03 04:39:04 AM
You know what they should blame?

The internet.
 
2008-04-03 04:42:42 AM
I used to play in the streets when I was younger.

/Got hit by a car
//Thrown into the air
///Barely a scratch
////My intelligence on the other hand...
 
2008-04-03 04:43:07 AM
Teufel232:
Think about what childhood was like when we were kids. Think about how, as you've gotten older, you've watched the things we used to do (and still turned out okay) be called dangerous and a serious threat to our safety. Think about how you've heard of the things we used to do getting banned across the nation.


Don't worry too much - kids are still allowed to drink from hosepipes, throw stones at wasps nests, play in streams and rivers, jump up and down on worryingly thin ice, make dangerous ramps for their bikes, use rope swings, run across the road or put dog dirt on a stick and chase other children.

Which pretty well sums up a perfect childhood.
 
2008-04-03 04:44:23 AM
Since I bought this house, three registered sex offenders have moved within two blocks of us. If my kids are outside - so am I. If I need to go inside for some reason, so do they.

One delivers newspapers (the old-fashioned paper type) and sees where kids live and where they roam around.

It just isn't the same as it used to be. Letting your child play outside unsupervised is irresponsible.
 
2008-04-03 04:46:30 AM
Beerinator: It just isn't the same as it used to be. Letting your child play outside unsupervised is irresponsible.

It isn't any more responsible than it was 20 years ago - the only thing that has changed is that you know who the sex offenders are.
 
2008-04-03 04:58:32 AM
the only thing sadder than these made up statistics are the people that believe them..
 
2008-04-03 04:59:09 AM
it all depends on how you define "adult supervision." if one includes keeping an eye out through the kitchen window or allowing the children to play on an estate where there is at least some adult outside, as the people answering the questions probably do, then it seems pretty reasonable. then one has to consider that most people would probably answer "no" to a question like that, anyway, regardless of the truth, because there are less likely to be any consequences

//you can also quite safely bet that if an eight year old was playing outside without the slightest supervision and was attacked, the daily mail would be asking why the parents were so irresponsible
 
2008-04-03 04:59:43 AM
Eh, Beerinator given how easy it is to end up on the "sex" offender's lists, its hard to take it too seriously.
 
2008-04-03 04:59:50 AM
CtrlAltDelete: I think this sounds nice in an aristocratic sort of way, so I'm going to do what I can to introduce this vernacular phenomenon here in the U.S.

I support you, but only if it's called the Garden Of Madness.

www.imagehost.ro
 
2008-04-03 05:02:43 AM
"They are concerned that children now have fewer opportunities than ever to play outdoors thanks to over-zealous health and safety crackdowns and a "no ball games here" culture."

Yes, that's what it is. Parents won't let their children out unsupervised becuase of 'Over-zealous health and safety crackdowns'. Probably created by 'Faceless unelected Brussels Bureaucrats paid by your taxes', eh?

Elsewhere in today's Daily Mail:
- Evil paedophiles live on your street and watch your children play
- 'Hoodies' will stab your children for their pocket money
- Mobile-phone masts will fry your children's brains if they set foot outside
- Illegal immigrants kidnap British children for sex trade
- Government lets drug-dealers sell crack to your children
 
2008-04-03 05:03:16 AM
RubberFootMan: Which pretty well sums up a perfect childhood.

My idea of a perfect childhood does not include near-constant soccer practices, scheduled "play dates" in between practices, and the ever-present gaggle of hover-parents attempting to destroy whatever iota of childhood that's left.
 
2008-04-03 05:06:27 AM
img.dailymail.co.uk

//apparently 15 year old girls shouldn't be allowed to use the computer without the supervision of mail readers
 
2008-04-03 05:12:14 AM
If there are two cliche's that annoy me more than any other, it's the "nanny state" and "precious snowflake" ones. I'm sorry, but every time the crop up I feel like satan just jammed a few more needles in my anus.
 
2008-04-03 05:13:06 AM
Beerinator:
It just isn't the same as it used to be. Letting your child play outside unsupervised is irresponsible.


Wait, is your logic that being outside is dangerous? According to that logic how does one justify an adult leaving the house? An adult is defined by an arbitrary age. Does that same age match up perfectly with what is considered safe to go outside, or should another age be picked for that?

Would you suggest adults only leave the house because they have to? If there was no need for an adult to go outside such as work would you suggest they stay inside as well?

Are these stats even real? If not, what would the motivation for publishing fake stats like this be? What are the stats for violence in the home compared to violence outside of the home? I wonder which is more dangerous.
 
2008-04-03 05:14:14 AM
The Fark UK fact file:

- Britain and England are the same thing
- A Clockwork Orange is an accurate portrayal of British society
- The Brits open all conversations with "'Ello 'ello 'ello"
- The Brits regularly refer to people as "Guv'nor"
- The Brits all dress like chavs
- The Brits all talk like Mary Poppins
- The Brits all talk like Hugh Grant
- The Brits all talk like Austin Powers
- The Brits all talk like Guy Ritchie characters
- The Brits are all soccer football hooligans
- The Brits have bad teeth
- The Brits have bad food
- The Brits love to eat spotted dick
- The Brits have unattractive women
- The Brits have political correctness gone mad
- The Brits have no civil liberties
- The Brits have too many immigrants
- The Brits aren't citizens; they're subjects
- The Brits live in a Nanny State
- The Brits are being watched by Big Brother
- The Brits can't defend themselves from criminals
- The Brits are overrun with Muslims
- The Brits are going to have Sharia Law

In spite of all the stereotypes farkers have of Britain, this one is actually true. The media has done such a good job demonizing men and frightening parents into thinking every guy is a potential paedophile ready to snatch their children that I'm not at all surprised people are too wuss to let their kids out of the house.
 
2008-04-03 05:16:59 AM
CtrlAltDelete: The only thing I got from this article is that British people call their sh*tty backyards "The Garden." I think this sounds nice in an aristocratic sort of way, so I'm going to do what I can to introduce this vernacular phenomenon here in the U.S.,.

I may be wrong, but this may have come about from the War, where if you didn't have a vegetable garden in whatever outdoor space your property contained, you didn't eat.
 
2008-04-03 05:19:58 AM
MonkeyBoy666: My idea of a perfect childhood does not include near-constant soccer practices, scheduled "play dates" in between practices, and the ever-present gaggle of hover-parents attempting to destroy whatever iota of childhood that's left.

This is more of a 'class' issue than a childhood issue.

I'm quite sure that what you talk about is a product of full-time mums (who used to work, but now treat motherhood as an Important Career), and it is conspicuously absent in working class families.
 
2008-04-03 05:25:20 AM
sojourner: I may be wrong, but this may have come about from the War, where if you didn't have a vegetable garden in whatever outdoor space your property contained, you didn't eat.

Nope.

Poor housing wasn't built with gardens (space/cost constraints) but was often clustered around a courtyard (yard).

More expensive housing would have spare land surrounding the property. This is a garden, and apes the 'land' of the gentry in a small way.

So, today. a house with flower beds and a lawn outside has a garden. A (normally smaller) house with a paved area outside is said to have a yard.
 
2008-04-03 05:26:48 AM
An tSaoi: The Fark UK fact file:

- Britain and England are the same thing
- A Clockwork Orange is an accurate portrayal of British society
- The Brits open all conversations with "'Ello 'ello 'ello"
- The Brits regularly refer to people as "Guv'nor"
- The Brits all dress like chavs
- The Brits all talk like Mary Poppins
- The Brits all talk like Hugh Grant
- The Brits all talk like Austin Powers
- The Brits all talk like Guy Ritchie characters
- The Brits are all soccer football hooligans
- The Brits have bad teeth
- The Brits have bad food
- The Brits love to eat spotted dick
- The Brits have unattractive women
- The Brits have political correctness gone mad
- The Brits have no civil liberties
- The Brits have too many immigrants
- The Brits aren't citizens; they're subjects
- The Brits live in a Nanny State
- The Brits are being watched by Big Brother
- The Brits can't defend themselves from criminals
- The Brits are overrun with Muslims
- The Brits are going to have Sharia Law

In spite of all the stereotypes farkers have of Britain, this one is actually true. The media has done such a good job demonizing men and frightening parents into thinking every guy is a potential paedophile ready to snatch their children that I'm not at all surprised people are too wuss to let their kids out of the house.



Don't forget
- The Brits smoke fags.
 
2008-04-03 05:30:55 AM
Beerinator - Since I bought this house, three registered sex offenders have moved within two blocks of us. If my kids are outside - so am I. If I need to go inside for some reason, so do they.

One delivers newspapers (the old-fashioned paper type) and sees where kids live and where they roam around.

It just isn't the same as it used to be. Letting your child play outside unsupervised is irresponsible.



Yeah, whoever invented pedophiles a few years ago is a major asshole.
 
2008-04-03 05:34:04 AM
Teufel232 - I want everyone here from America that is over 20 years old to stop and think.

Think about what childhood was like when we were kids. Think about how, as you've gotten older, you've watched the things we used to do (and still turned out okay) be called dangerous and a serious threat to our safety. Think about how you've heard of the things we used to do getting banned across the nation.

Now, you tell me, that you don't think statistics like the ones in that article, and possibly even worse "statistics" then that, aren't very likely to happen, whether it be in the UK or here


believe what feels "truthy."



FTFY
 
2008-04-03 05:38:19 AM
cantsleep: Mr. Balls.
I couldn't read any farther.


I came here to say that.,,,
 
2008-04-03 05:40:40 AM
eraZe: the only thing sadder than these made up statistics are the people that believe them..

Take a look a the fat arse kids of today, it's pretty clear this is not made up.
 
2008-04-03 05:49:39 AM
21-7-b

Is that from another Mail story? Only Mail readers would be shocked to discover that 15 year olds are sexually aware.
 
2008-04-03 05:58:07 AM
This has less to do with a "nanny state" and more with actual nannies. Your headline sucks, subby.
 
2008-04-03 06:00:14 AM
it is, BenR
 
2008-04-03 06:11:38 AM
jesus christ you guys... how could one possibly rtfa and not work "MR. BALLS" into the headline somewhere?
 
2008-04-03 06:13:25 AM
What do you expect in a country with a mass media that sensationalises child murder, child abduction and paedophilia to the extent that parents are too scared to let their kids walk to school on their own never mind play in the local park with their friends?

Children are more likely to be struck by lightning on their way to handing in their winning lottery ticket than being abducted and killed by a mysterious kiddie fiddler on the prowl.

And the statistics show that the number of child murders hasn't increased in the last 30 years, meaning we were subjected to just as much risk as they would be now if only their over-protective parents would take off the cotton wool.
 
2008-04-03 06:24:14 AM
doesn't seem to me that being inside is all that safe either

bp1.blogger.com
 
2008-04-03 06:26:13 AM
Mr Balls, who has previously said that children should be allowed to play with conkers and have snowball fights,


...*snerk*

/ack, where has my mind been lately?
//oh, the gutter...right
///not up on British slang
 
2008-04-03 06:36:56 AM
I blame the Daily Mail.

/for pretty much everything.
 
2008-04-03 06:39:04 AM
RabidOstrich: Mr Balls, who has previously said that children should be allowed to play with conkers

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conker

It's good fun. Try it this 'fall'.
 
2008-04-03 06:50:50 AM
costas: "They are concerned that children now have fewer opportunities than ever to play outdoors thanks to over-zealous health and safety crackdowns and a "no ball games here" culture."

Yes, that's what it is. Parents won't let their children out unsupervised becuase of 'Over-zealous health and safety crackdowns'. Probably created by 'Faceless unelected Brussels Bureaucrats paid by your taxes', eh?

Elsewhere in today's Daily Mail:
- Evil paedophiles live on your street and watch your children play
- 'Hoodies' will stab your children for their pocket money
- Mobile-phone masts will fry your children's brains if they set foot outside
- Illegal immigrants kidnap British children for sex trade
- Government lets drug-dealers sell crack to your children


Is any of that really THAT prevalent in any one area? In all areas?

I think that kids should have some adult supervision when they play outside at parks and whatnot. Parents need to parent, but I also understand that two working parents are stretched really thin. Trade off duties with other parents, get to know your neighbors.

Also, the TV news is designed to scare the piss out of us so we stay indoors and watch more advertising. Emotionally addled people consume more, it is simple marketing strategy.

Don't watch the TV news!!!!
 
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