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(NYPost)   Former Yankee bullpen coach says "NO Way" A-Rod was on juice. He couldn't hide something like that, "He is not that bright to be able to pull that off"   (nypost.com) divider line 43
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2008-03-27 06:41:43 AM  
It may help to stop the HGH/steroids rumors about A-Rod, but the way most of his story sounds, it's definitely going to add fuel to the tubesteak injection rumors.
 
2008-03-27 07:51:05 AM  
In four years I was with him 24 hours a day

Jeebus, the man love from this guy is obvious. 24 hours a day? The guy makes it sound like they were spooning every night
 
2008-03-27 08:16:10 AM  
The former bullpen catcher says A-Rod didn't juice? Case closed!

How many years did the Yankees re-sign him for? This is going to be the best decade ever!
 
2008-03-27 08:22:14 AM  
Now I'm confused.

Does this make A-Rod or Clemens the smarter of the two?
 
2008-03-27 08:29:10 AM  
Wouldn't it be great if every single star in Major Leagues was found to have taken steroids? I would think criminal charges against every owner and the commissioner would be in order.

If anything, RICO charges. Their neglect affected legal gambling, thus Interstate commerce.
 
2008-03-27 08:31:08 AM  
When you set up a system that does no real testing for doping/cheating, what do you expect?

MLB has now been exposed to the naive masses. When will happen to the other tainted sports? Only naive America knows.

/they are ALL doping folks
//duh
 
2008-03-27 09:04:41 AM  
King of Kong: The former bullpen catcher says A-Rod didn't juice? Case closed!

How many years did the Yankees re-sign him for? This is going to be the best decade ever!


According to the article, he works for the Dodgers now.
 
2008-03-27 09:05:10 AM  
Baseball players have cheated since the start of the game. Spitballs, gambling, altered bats.

Jim Bouton nailed this in 1971: "If there were a pill that could add 2 feet to a guys fastball or 10 points to his average but shortened his life by 10 years, a ballplayer would take it."

Roids hadn't even happened yet, at that time the subject was amphetamines. What ever happened to amphetamines in baseball ? Go back and watch some batting stances in the 1970s, they're funnier than watchin an episode of meth busts on COPS. Never could figure it out as a kid why David Concepcion or Pete Rose twitched so much .
 
2008-03-27 09:23:43 AM  
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now that we got those out of the way ..

A-rod LOOKS like a natural baseball player .. he doesn't look jacked or anything like that. His numebers have been pretty consistant (lol except playoffs) and honestly I don't see him to be one who juiced. Thats my opinion.

\yanks fan
 
2008-03-27 09:37:48 AM  
bacccc:

When you set up a system that does no real testing for doping/cheating, what do you expect?

That's why there are some many cyclists being caught... They take dope testing seriously.

Funny how farkers here say that cyclists are dirty cheaters, etc (and some are) but if baseball and football tested their athletes the way cyclists are tested, the coaches will have to play the water boy and the towel boy and the cheerleaders to fill the roster.
 
2008-03-27 09:43:21 AM  
hugram: Funny how farkers here say that cyclists are dirty cheaters, etc...

From where I'm sitting, it seems most farkers here ignore cycling completely.

Unless there's a Lance Armstrong one-ball joke to be made.

This is, of course, the way it should be.
 
2008-03-27 09:46:05 AM  
hugram: That's why there are some many cyclists being caught... They take dope testing seriously.

please stop responding to that 'tard. he shows up in every single thread with "dopers dopers dopers dopers dopers".
 
2008-03-27 09:52:56 AM  
Wise_Guy:

From where I'm sitting, it seems most farkers here ignore cycling completely.

Yes, I know they do but as soon as any type of news about some random cyclist being caught doping, they all gang up on the sport and say things that they are all cheaters, dopers, etc.
 
2008-03-27 09:57:36 AM  
hugram: Yes, I know they do but as soon as any type of news about some random cyclist being caught doping, they all gang up on the sport and say things that they are all cheaters, dopers, etc.

All 5 of 'em. Including the guy who trolls every sports thread with even a hint of anything related to steroids.
 
2008-03-27 10:01:24 AM  
IAmRight:

All 5 of 'em. Including the guy who trolls every sports thread with even a hint of anything related to steroids.

I'll take your word for it... I was not aware that the same farkers were doing this.
 
2008-03-27 10:36:37 AM  
I can't think of anything original to say.

bummer.

um... when he fails a test, maybe I'll rip on the guy.

/need coffee
 
2008-03-27 10:44:02 AM  
zooyorkfreak: now that we got those out of the way ..

A-rod LOOKS like a natural baseball player .. he doesn't look jacked or anything like that. His numebers have been pretty consistant (lol except playoffs) and honestly I don't see him to be one who juiced. Thats my opinion.

\yanks fan


Yes, on the one hand you have Bonds and Clemens, but then you've got Pettite and the tons of people from the Mitchell report. Getting jacked isn't the exclusive goal of juicing.
 
2008-03-27 10:55:36 AM  
ElwoodCuse: zooyorkfreak: now that we got those out of the way ..

A-rod LOOKS like a natural baseball player .. he doesn't look jacked or anything like that. His numebers have been pretty consistant (lol except playoffs) and honestly I don't see him to be one who juiced. Thats my opinion.

\yanks fan


Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...
 
2008-03-27 10:59:39 AM  
ltrain2: ElwoodCuse: zooyorkfreak: now that we got those out of the way ..

A-rod LOOKS like a natural baseball player .. he doesn't look jacked or anything like that. His numebers have been pretty consistant (lol except playoffs) and honestly I don't see him to be one who juiced. Thats my opinion.

\yanks fan

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...


Way to dispute what he said.
 
2008-03-27 11:09:02 AM  
ElwoodCuse: Getting jacked isn't the exclusive goal of juicing.

yeah, it's usually used to recover from injuries...again, A-Rod doesn't have a real history with that either.

/also, you have to love taking testimony from Canseco, who says he thinks Clemens is clean
 
2008-03-27 11:15:09 AM  
This far without

judyonthenet.com

for shame farkers
 
2008-03-27 11:19:32 AM  
Wise_Guy: Way to dispute what he said.



You clearly missed that...no worries, re-read it a few times and get back to me.
 
2008-03-27 11:30:26 AM  
ltrain2: Wise_Guy: Way to dispute what he said.

You clearly missed that...no worries, re-read it a few times and get back to me.


Pointing out that he pointed out that he is a Yankee fan is not very clever, nor does it negate what he said. He even said it was his opinion.

If you disagree with his statement, address it.
 
2008-03-27 11:48:44 AM  
Nemo's Brother: Wouldn't it be great if every single star in Major Leagues was found to have taken steroids? I would think criminal charges against every owner and the commissioner would be in order.

If anything, RICO charges. Their neglect affected legal gambling, thus Interstate commerce.


If MLB could actually eliminate every player in the major or minor leagues that used steroids all those beer league softball players just might get a chance to live their dreams.
 
2008-03-27 11:49:54 AM  
ElwoodCuse: zooyorkfreak: now that we got those out of the way ..

A-rod LOOKS like a natural baseball player .. he doesn't look jacked or anything like that. His numebers have been pretty consistant (lol except playoffs) and honestly I don't see him to be one who juiced. Thats my opinion.

\yanks fan

Yes, on the one hand you have Bonds and Clemens, but then you've got Pettite and the tons of people from the Mitchell report. Getting jacked isn't the exclusive goal of juicing.


The best argument I have heard so far against A-Rod being juiced is that the juice doesn't just stop working in October.
 
2008-03-27 11:58:16 AM  
SharkTrager: The best argument I have heard so far against A-Rod being juiced is that the juice doesn't just stop working in October.

This is a completely awful argument. The juice can't help you with timing and nerves and such. It can't help you deal with pressure. You still have to see the ball, hit the ball.
 
2008-03-27 12:11:04 PM  
Ok, let's analyze Canseco's plan here:

Step 1: Publish a book "revealing" things that everybody else already knew and profit (hey, Ric Romero does it)

Step 2: With your newfound "credibility" publish a second book focusing on the highest name in baseball. After all, you were right the first time, right?

Step 3: Profit again.

At last, I found Step 2!!!

/The Battle to Save Baseball? Canseco, really?
 
2008-03-27 12:24:06 PM  
Until there is even a shred of evidence against A-Rod, I think it's pretty fair to assume he's clean.

You know, just like all the players on your favorite team who MUST be clean just because they weren't in the Mitchell Report.

I continue to enjoy the shortsighted and naive delight taken by Yankee haters regarding the names in that narrow and incomplete document. Go on believing your teams are all clean.
 
2008-03-27 12:24:36 PM  
toonz: um... when he fails a test, maybe I'll rip on the guy.

Are you sure you're a Boston fan?
 
2008-03-27 12:26:44 PM  
rocky_howard: /The Battle to Save Baseball? Canseco, really?

Jose Canseco's ego vs. MLB's sanctimoniousness is like pure sodium vs. water
 
2008-03-27 12:30:11 PM  
ElwoodCuse: The juice can't help you with timing and nerves and such. It can't help you deal with pressure. You still have to see the ball, hit the ball.

The juice probably makes you worse under pressure. Roid rage basically signals an inability to deal rationally with your present circumstances. Who do we know who has trouble performing under playoff pressure?

/Besides juicer Gagne
 
2008-03-27 12:37:08 PM  
lilbjorn: ElwoodCuse: The juice can't help you with timing and nerves and such. It can't help you deal with pressure. You still have to see the ball, hit the ball.

The juice probably makes you worse under pressure. Roid rage basically signals an inability to deal rationally with your present circumstances. Who do we know who has trouble performing under playoff pressure?

/Besides juicer Gagne


dude, that was the weakest post I've seen in awhile (and I produce some weak-ass posts). I'm no A-Rod fan (Mets, baby!) but there is no proof that the guy is a juicer... Canseco saying that he "introduced him" to a dealer proves nothing... The part that makes it all make sense is the A-Rod trying to boink Jose's wife-type... sour grapes, anyone?
 
2008-03-27 12:39:59 PM  
Pacodoszappatos: toonz: um... when he fails a test, maybe I'll rip on the guy.

Are you sure you're a Boston fan?


yep.
so i know that A-Rod WANTED to come here, but the Union got in the way. I don't hate the guy like a lot of people here, but I also had no problem with Johnny Damon for going to NY either. I also like Jeter (and not in a dumb t-shirt way), and think the Yankees Suck chant should ONLY be used to drown out Yanks fans at Fenway, if at all. I'm kind of weird.

But it warms my heart EVERY time the Yanks lose, and I HATE it when they win. But I think that actually having the Sox win a couple pennants has most definitely calmed me the hell down.

Even hoping to make it to the Stadium for the first time in 30 years just to say farewell. And Shea, so I can say i pissed in it. (i keed!)
 
2008-03-27 12:48:18 PM  
toonz: Even hoping to make it to the Stadium for the first time in 30 years just to say farewell. And Shea, so I can say i pissed in it. (i keed!)

I've pissed there. It would be more of an accomplishment if that whole place didn't already stink of piss.

/and burritos
 
2008-03-27 02:47:52 PM  
Yanks_RSJ: Until there is even a shred of evidence against A-Rod, I think it's pretty fair to assume he's clean.

Excuse me, sir, the word of a man with an admitted personal vendetta against A-Rod IS that shred of evidence, and it's a damn good one!
 
2008-03-27 02:49:56 PM  
robsul82: Yanks_RSJ: Until there is even a shred of evidence against A-Rod, I think it's pretty fair to assume he's clean.

Excuse me, sir, the word of a man with an admitted personal vendetta against A-Rod IS that shred of evidence, and it's a damn good one!


hmmmm... does he golf, too?
 
2008-03-27 03:28:52 PM  
toonz: robsul82: Yanks_RSJ: Until there is even a shred of evidence against A-Rod, I think it's pretty fair to assume he's clean.

Excuse me, sir, the word of a man with an admitted personal vendetta against A-Rod IS that shred of evidence, and it's a damn good one!

hmmmm... does he golf, too?


Que?
 
2008-03-27 03:38:07 PM  
robsul82: Que?

sorry, was alluding (perhaps too vaguely) to a certain golf pro in Hawaii who, by merely hinting he may know something about a certain football team, is the champion of non-biased justice seekers everywhere.
 
2008-03-27 03:45:44 PM  
toonz: robsul82: Que?

sorry, was alluding (perhaps too vaguely) to a certain golf pro in Hawaii who, by merely hinting he may know something about a certain football team, is the champion of non-biased justice seekers everywhere.


Ohhhh. I remember that now, yeah. Matt Walsh is his name?
 
2008-03-27 04:22:18 PM  
Wise_Guy: ltrain2: Wise_Guy: Way to dispute what he said.

You clearly missed that...no worries, re-read it a few times and get back to me.

Pointing out that he pointed out that he is a Yankee fan is not very clever, nor does it negate what he said. He even said it was his opinion.

If you disagree with his statement, address it.


My god man, you're reading into this way to much. Find some meaning in your life.
 
2008-03-27 04:26:22 PM  
toonz: perhaps too vaguely

I thought nothing was too obscure for Fark, but you got me on that one.

Incidentally, Hank Steinbrenner just announced that he had the idea to tape the Rams' walkthrough first, and any suggestion otherwise is a creation of the Patriots and ESPN.
 
2008-03-27 05:11:34 PM  
robsul82:
Ohhhh. I remember that now, yeah. Matt Walsh is his name?


yup.
still waiting for the NFL to grant him some sort of immunity for his blockbuster info.

priestrape: I thought nothing was too obscure for Fark, but you got me on that one.

well, there's a difference between obscure, and not really giving enough for people to make the connection, so i think I'm at fault here.

Incidentally, Hank Steinbrenner just announced that he had the idea to tape the Rams' walkthrough first, and any suggestion otherwise is a creation of the Patriots and ESPN.

heh-heh
 
2008-03-27 07:37:51 PM  
ltrain2: Wise_Guy: ltrain2: Wise_Guy: Way to dispute what he said.

You clearly missed that...no worries, re-read it a few times and get back to me.

Pointing out that he pointed out that he is a Yankee fan is not very clever, nor does it negate what he said. He even said it was his opinion.

If you disagree with his statement, address it.

My god man, you're reading into this way to much. Find some meaning in your life.


Let's see if I have this straight:

Step 1. Say something stupid
Step 2. Act like the other guy is stupid for calling you on it
Step 3. Accuse other of guy of having too much time on his hands when he shows he's not the stupid one
Step 4. Profit?
 
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