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(News.com.au)   Woman evades speeding ticket by claiming someone she's never met on the other side of the world was driving at the time. Brilliant!   (news.com.au) divider line 52
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2008-03-26 08:27:49 PM
Wherefore art thou, Dumbass tag?
 
2008-03-26 08:28:39 PM
Damnit, I was planning on using that next time I got pulled over.

That plan's just ruined now....

Thief.
 
2008-03-26 08:28:56 PM
He bilocates.
 
2008-03-26 08:29:28 PM
"Thats some fine police work there, Lou."
 
2008-03-26 08:29:37 PM
I'm torn between asinine and hilarious.
 
2008-03-26 08:30:08 PM
You throw your hands up in the air and swear you didn't know
You think the world revolves around you but it doesn't so
You sit and spin
Baby someone is crazy and it's you
Someone is crazy and it's you
Someone is crazy and it's you
 
2008-03-26 08:31:15 PM
In before "all cops are pigs" and the idiots who think speeding tickets are a scam.
 
2008-03-26 08:31:40 PM
I would hope the Aussies would have a way of tracking the owners and drivers of automobiles through cameras in the cop cars and perhaps a database of some kind in the main office. When a woman is driving the car and manages to get a ticket mailed to a guy halfway around the world, either the system is farked with a cocked hat or someone in the chain of authority is stupid beyond belief.
 
2008-03-26 08:31:55 PM
I'm guessing this is one of those speed camera citations where you're supposed to rat out the real driver if you weren't the one driving when your car got snapped. If so, there should be photographic evidence of who was behind the wheel. I'd demand that they send it to me, just to be a pain in the ass and cost them further time and postage.
 
2008-03-26 08:32:03 PM
Can I claim my imaginary friend Skippy was driving? (Although he shouldn't. He's been hitting the imaginary bottle pretty hard lately.)
 
2008-03-26 08:32:38 PM
can't the british police just issue a ticket to the woman in australia and, upon payment, send the money to the respective australian police department?
 
2008-03-26 08:33:16 PM
If I lived in Australia I'd start getting random names and addresses out of the phone book and prepare to start speeding more.
 
2008-03-26 08:33:32 PM
This is the most important part of TFA: "Mr Smart was fined $196 for driving 8km/hr over the speed limit"

Remind me never to drive in Australia.
 
2008-03-26 08:34:44 PM
derek20cali: In before "all cops are pigs" and the idiots who think speeding tickets are a scam.

So are you saying people who think speeding tickets are a scam are idiots?

Are people who think speeding tickets are not a scam idiots?

//Sees 10 cops on Harleys, and a guy ontop of the same bridge with a laser gun to pull over speeders twice a week.

// Has not been pulled over by this scam
 
2008-03-26 08:35:15 PM
Prof_Moriarity: You throw your hands up in the air and swear you didn't know
You think the world revolves around you but it doesn't so
You sit and spin
Baby someone is crazy and it's you
Someone is crazy and it's you
Someone is crazy and it's you


You set the trap
You lie in wait until someone trips the wire
Then you jump out to get your feelings hurt
And you act surprised
"How did that get there?
Why does everybody hate me?"
 
2008-03-26 08:37:42 PM
"Of course I was speeding! I was driving under sniper fire!"
 
2008-03-26 08:38:13 PM
Nhojwolfe:

So are you saying people who think speeding tickets are a scam are idiots?

Yes.

Are people who think speeding tickets are not a scam idiots?

No.
 
2008-03-26 08:43:16 PM
If it works, it was brilliant.
 
2008-03-26 08:43:39 PM
Didn't Stefan Erikksen already try this when he crashed his Ferrari Enzo in California? As I recall, he blamed his imaginary German pal, "Dietrich."

Link

Good scam, though. I like it.
 
2008-03-26 08:48:44 PM
derek20cali

I agree with you on some level. I have however, seen the power of speeding tickets misuesed for a revenue generator.
 
2008-03-26 08:51:47 PM
Anagrammer: "Of course I was speeding! I was driving under sniper fire!"

You are Hilary Clinton in Bosnia, and I claim a Sinbad comedy routine.
 
2008-03-26 08:52:52 PM
I don't get it.

/been drinking
//wtf did tfa say?
 
2008-03-26 08:55:29 PM
Anagrammer: "Of course I was speeding! I was driving under sniper fire!"

WIN
 
2008-03-26 08:56:17 PM
This is the most important part of TFA: "Mr Smart was fined $196 for driving 8km/hr over the speed limit"


8 km over the limit equals 5 mph over the limit. This speed trap is a revenue generator.
 
2008-03-26 09:03:09 PM
FTFA "And I've never had a ticket in my life, I'm pleased to say.

Pussy
 
2008-03-26 09:06:24 PM
"Actually, Officer, when you factor in the Earth's rotation, we're all speeding."
 
2008-03-26 09:07:06 PM
I came here to point out the fact that this guy was charged 200 bucks for 5mph over the limit, but looks like thats taken care of.
/next time you americans get a little fine from a camera, count yourself lucky your state isnt as revenue hungry as some places
 
2008-03-26 09:08:41 PM
packrattitude: "Actually, Officer, when you factor in the Earth's rotation, we're all speeding."

Brilliant!
 
2008-03-26 09:11:21 PM
Rambino,

Don't forget that if you're ever in Australia, do not drive.
 
2008-03-26 09:18:51 PM
Jeffrey.Rodriguez 2008-03-26 08:43:16 PM
If it works, it was brilliant.


I've seen the reverse of this work numerous times -

Once upon time I worked for a coach company in the London whenever one of our drivers clocked a speeding ticket from a camera we would claim that the driver was a temp that had since left and returned to Oz. Once the police were supplied with the name and address of the driver they left us alone.

/True Story
 
2008-03-26 09:23:12 PM
khaversiddiqi.files.wordpress.com
 
2008-03-26 09:32:29 PM
i215.photobucket.com
 
2008-03-26 09:47:29 PM
FTA "The owner of this vehicle, Fluin, Kathryn Julia, has affirmed in a statutory declaration that you were the driver of the vehicle at the time of the alleged offence," the fine said.

And since no one would lie in a signed oath, Mr. Smart most assuredly must have been driving.
/Good police work there Lou
 
2008-03-26 09:54:12 PM
derek20cali: In before "all cops are pigs" and the idiots who think speeding tickets are a scam.

Come downunder and you'll find that many tickers are a scam. And if you reckon being booked for 8 kn/h over is tough, try Victoria where they will happily book you for 3km/h over - that's a little more than 1mph.

Of course, there are still idiots who claim it's all about safety, but thankfully their numbers are dwindling
 
2008-03-26 09:55:06 PM
Hooray for scoonthorpe!
 
2008-03-26 09:59:17 PM
eldopa:

Thanks for reminding me!

:)
 
2008-03-26 10:04:20 PM
bingethinker: 8 km over the limit equals 5 mph over the limit. This speed trap is a revenue generator.

Translated: "Blah whinge blahblahblah.. blah blah.. blah blahblahbla whinge whinge blah cry whinge."

Don't want to get fined? Don't speed then.
 
2008-03-26 10:11:00 PM
snuff3r: bingethinker: 8 km over the limit equals 5 mph over the limit. This speed trap is a revenue generator.

Translated: "Blah whinge blahblahblah.. blah blah.. blah blahblahbla whinge whinge blah cry whinge."

Don't want to get fined? Don't speed then.


Please don't feed the trolls
 
2008-03-26 10:21:44 PM
All they have to do is check with immigration and see if anyone with that name came into Australia during that month.

Or alternatively he can send them a copy of his passport, IF he has one or a copy of a letter from the Visa office saying he does not have one.

It will interesting to see that if it seems to be fixed that he DOES decide to visit in a couple of years only to be told he still has to pay the fine (PLUS interest)
 
2008-03-26 10:32:20 PM
MiKelly wherefore art though dumbass tag?

=

FAIL
 
2008-03-26 10:32:49 PM
snuff3r:
Don't want to get fined? Don't speed then.


In Victoria they actually have "variable speed zones". These are zones marked by LED speed limit signs which change depending on traffic and weather conditions. Often they'll entrap people by keeping the speed limit low in good conditions, when it's meant to be at the higher end in those conditions. Sometimes they'll even change the speed limit without notice (in stable conditions) and entrap people that way.

A few times they actually got caught using rigged speed cameras which were giving higher readings, and had to refund all drivers fined via those cameras on those days. Only God knows how many times they got away with it though.

Stuff like that happens all the time. It's beyond a scam.

/One of the reasons I got rid of my car, moved into the inner city, and don't drive in this state anymore (I never actually got done for speeding myself BTW)
//Police corruption out here is like in the farking Third World
 
2008-03-26 10:35:30 PM
jjorsett: I'm guessing this is one of those speed camera citations where you're supposed to rat out the real driver if you weren't the one driving when your car got snapped. If so, there should be photographic evidence of who was behind the wheel. I'd demand that they send it to me, just to be a pain in the ass and cost themtaxpayers further time and postage.

Fixed.
 
2008-03-26 10:44:07 PM
Nhojwolfe: derek20cali

I agree with you on some level. I have however, seen the power of speeding tickets misuesed for a revenue generator.


Last week in my county the cops announced on the radio, "We will be writing 1000 speeding tickets today no matter what."

Ahh the good ole' US of A!
 
2008-03-26 10:50:53 PM
defects:
Last week in my county the cops announced on the radio, "We will be writing 1000 speeding tickets today no matter what."


Over here in Victoria, it was revealed a few years back that the revenue raised by speeding fines was being factored (as a fairly exact minimum figure) into the state's budget for the coming financial year.

Think for a moment what that means, yeeeeeah.
 
2008-03-27 12:09:57 AM
ssrat: All they have to do is check with immigration and see if anyone with that name came into Australia during that month.

Or alternatively he can send them a copy of his passport, IF he has one or a copy of a letter from the Visa office saying he does not have one.

It will interesting to see that if it seems to be fixed that he DOES decide to visit in a couple of years only to be told he still has to pay the fine (PLUS interest)


This is where I'm confused. Australia, being a British colony, should be based on common law like America. Being so, this requires that prosecution present prima facie evidence in order to shift the burden of proof to the defendant. To me, there's no reason the gentleman has to defend himself at all, because they haven't provided evidence to indicate he was operating a motor vehicle in Australia in excess of the speed limit. All they have is a picture of some woman's car.

I have never understood how police departments can issue tickets all willy nilly to the registrant of the vehicle from a photo of the vehicle and its tag. There's absolutely no evidence indicating the registrant was the driver at the time of the incident. At least in the fine Commonwealth of Virginia, motor vehicle violations must be issued to the operator of the vehicle at the time of the incident.
 
2008-03-27 02:51:22 AM
In Australia (for that is where I am), when you receive a speeding / traffic infringement ticket you can send it back with a 'Statutory Declaration' saying that it wasn't you driving the car at the time, and you nominate who was driving. Needless to say you can lie, but if caught you get a bigger fine plus the original still stands, plus you probably get a criminal record.
There was the case last year of a Judge who did this several times, and was eventually caught out when it turned out the person he said was driving had actually died a couple of years earlier.
 
2008-03-27 02:56:35 AM
And another thing..the law states that a car speedometer can have a 10% margin of error (to be deemed 'roadworthy'). However, you can be fined for doing 61kmh in a 60kmh zone. So even if your speedo says you're doing 60kmh but it's off and you're really doing 65kmh, tough shiat.
 
2008-03-27 03:27:54 AM
Ana Ng?
 
2008-03-27 06:48:04 AM
enzoweb: And another thing..the law states that a car speedometer can have a 10% margin of error (to be deemed 'roadworthy'). However, you can be fined for doing 61kmh in a 60kmh zone. So even if your speedo says you're doing 60kmh but it's off and you're really doing 65kmh, tough shiat.

I hate driving in mum's car ('91 Pulsar - i'm a learner) beause the speedo's broken! It says 150km/h when i'm (or my mum even) doing 30km/k after pulling out of the driveway and driving to the end of the street. I'm saving up for my own car, for when i get my provisional license
 
2008-03-27 08:57:01 AM
enzoweb: There was the case last year of a Judge who did this several times, and was eventually caught out when it turned out the person he said was driving had actually died a couple of years earlier.

He is facing 14 years for his lying.

Link (new window)

Of course he will not even get a day.
 
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