You're not all sick. You'd just rather take pills than deal with your farking problems.

Subby: Half of Americans are have been diagnosed by moron doctors as in some way mentally ill

Though I agree that taking a cocktail of anti-depressants is easier than hours of introspection as you search for an inner sense of calm, I remain firm that the pills completely miss the point.

You have a problem? Take two of these a day for the rest of your life, and that will solve the problem...as long as you never miss a pill... for the rest of your life. It's like putting fresh bandaids over a wound every day until you die instead of stitching the farking wound.

/I have NEVER met anyone who claims to have Restless Legs. Until I do, it's made up bullshiat for drug company profits.

ThatGuyGreg: Humean_Nature: /I have NEVER met anyone who claims to have Restless Legs.

I do very occasionally, but I generally take it as a sign that I need to go to sleep.

I have had "the jimmy legs" in the past, but the thing that cured it for me was to get off my farking ass and walk around for 30-60 minutes 3 or 4 times a week.

The Big Pharm companies want us all strung out on pills because it keeps the cash register ringing. They've managed to $ecure a spot with the government so they'll never be held accountable for anything.

I think a large percentage of the people who are on "anti-depressents" don't need to be. I've seen the ravages of prescription drug abuse, within my own family and at the Narcotics Anonymous meetings I go to sometime. It makes me never want to take another pill of any sort ever again.

The one that kills me is "social anxiety disorder". If that isn't the biggest bunch of horseshiat evar, I don't know what is.

Sarah Jessica Farker
I have had "the jimmy legs" in the past, but the thing that cured it for me was to get off my farking ass and walk around for 30-60 minutes 3 or 4 times a week.

You know, if people who claim to have all these "problems" would pay more attention to things like diet and exercise, I would bet a lot of these so-called maladies might actually go away, or at least become more manageable.

zappaisfrank: I think a large percentage of the people who are on "anti-depressents" don't need to be. I've seen the ravages of prescription drug abuse, within my own family and at the Narcotics Anonymous meetings I go to sometime. It makes me never want to take another pill of any sort ever again.

The one that kills me is "social anxiety disorder". If that isn't the biggest bunch of horseshiat evar, I don't know what is.

I agree with you, to a point. My girlfriend is bipolar and has been through a series of different anti-depressants, mood stabilizers, et cetera. While I do think some people can be cured by simply manning up and taking some damn responsibility for their problems, I can also attest that people like my girlfriend are freaking nutjobs if they DON'T have their medicine. Not that it's a bad thing, but the medicines she's on do help to stabilize her and make her a functional member of society instead of incredibly manic for a few weeks, then wanting to kill herself shortly thereafter.

So, yeah, a lot of it is a crock (I don't believe in ADHD or so many other of the "give 'em pills!" maladies), but some of it IS genuine and real.

i only self medicate. you can keep your anti-depressants, i prefer drugs that are depressants

Skail
zappaisfrank: I think a large percentage of the people who are on "anti-depressents" don't need to be. I've seen the ravages of prescription drug abuse, within my own family and at the Narcotics Anonymous meetings I go to sometime. It makes me never want to take another pill of any sort ever again.

The one that kills me is "social anxiety disorder". If that isn't the biggest bunch of horseshiat evar, I don't know what is.

I agree with you, to a point. My girlfriend is bipolar and has been through a series of different anti-depressants, mood stabilizers, et cetera. While I do think some people can be cured by simply manning up and taking some damn responsibility for their problems, I can also attest that people like my girlfriend are freaking nutjobs if they DON'T have their medicine. Not that it's a bad thing, but the medicines she's on do help to stabilize her and make her a functional member of society instead of incredibly manic for a few weeks, then wanting to kill herself shortly thereafter.

So, yeah, a lot of it is a crock (I don't believe in ADHD or so many other of the "give 'em pills!" maladies), but some of it IS genuine and real.

Notice please I did say "a large percentage" and not "everyone!"

I understand what you are saying. My brother's girlfriend has been on various meds for depression, etc. for the entire 12 years he's known her. Well, one day she just decided to stop cold. She's been a nutbag ever since. She also just had a baby and the post partum thing (which really hit her hard) combined with going off the meds flat has turned her into an absolute lunatic. She's pulled various weapons on my brother, she's physically beaten him and she is using their kid as a control tool towards him. She stabbed and flattened his truck tire with a knife at a gas station just this past Sunday. She had been trying to stab him!

I understand some medicine is good for you, but I also believe that a great many people have been duped into thinking they need this stuff when they don't.

Sarah Jessica Farker: I have had "the jimmy legs" in the past, but the thing that cured it for me was to get off my farking ass and walk around for 30-60 minutes 3 or 4 times a week.

That's what I've always said, and I got called 'insensitive' because of it. If your legs are physically twitching and insisting that they want to move, then for fark's sake, move them. You are stressed. You are tired. You are sedentary. Fix those, and then we'll talk pills.

/Social Anxiety Disorder = being an introvert. Pills won't do anything that a couple of shots wouldn't

zappaisfrank: ...lots of words and a quote...

We agree. I know this. I just felt like saying it, anyway. :) Sucks to be your brother, though - any way to get the biatch back on her meds, or is this "her decision?" My girlfriend keeps trying to go off hers - I told her "you do that, and your ass is dumped." Only time will tell if I have to go through with it.

Skail
zappaisfrank: ...lots of words and a quote...

We agree. I know this. I just felt like saying it, anyway. :) Sucks to be your brother, though - any way to get the biatch back on her meds, or is this "her decision?" My girlfriend keeps trying to go off hers - I told her "you do that, and your ass is dumped." Only time will tell if I have to go through with it.

The whole thing makes me wonder if her "condition" wasn't created by being on meds when she didn't need them. Prescription drug usage kinda runs in her family. Her mom was a big pill pusher and still eats bunches of them per day. It's just difficult not to wonder if her "depression" or whatever she has, wasn't created by years and years of taking pills she didn't need.

Psychological and psychiatric problems are real. But they are not common. They are not anywhere near as common as the pharmeceutical companies and the psychologists/psychiatrists who have sold out would have you believe. And, to be perfectly frank, many psychological and psychiatric problems can be treated without the use of medication. It really is a simple matter of if you choose to do the hard work that is required.

/you don't need anti-depressants, you need to fix your sh*tty life.

Subby, you are doing it wrong, you take the anti depressant the day AFTER the rave.

/Does not count E as an antidepressant, that just falls into the fun things category

Holy fark! I have never been on any meds for mental illness, nor have i ever been told i need to be......

i am doing alot better than i thought i was!

/thanks for the self esteem

I've got my 6th meeting with a psychiatrist tonight. I'm going to have to challenge her "I don't prescribe medication" policy.

As some of you familiar with my postings here on Fark may know, there is definitely something chemically wrong with my mind, and pills are definitely in order.

Introspection only gets you so far.

/that guy who made the wound/band-aid analogy can blow me
//physical problems |= mental problems

Humean_Nature:

/I have NEVER met anyone who claims to have Restless Legs. Until I do, it's made up bullshiat for drug company profits.

I get it when i am cooped up in a car or on a plane for a long time. I dont take anything for it because i wouldnt imagine it does anything. My mother gets it alot worse than I do and takes the medication before long car trip and she claims it helps. Who knows though

It's not anything new. All this shows is that the area of mental state that we perceive as normal is shrinking.

I expect a lot less great authors if everyone cures their depression and alcoholism though.

cubsfan07: I've got my 6th meeting with a psychiatrist tonight. I'm going to have to challenge her "I don't prescribe medication" policy.

I would get a new psychiatrist, although far too many hand out meds way too quickly, I would not trust anyone who takes an absolute approach on the matter. Each case should be evaluated and the best course of action for the patient should be considered including the possibility for medication

My mother in law claims to have the biggest bunch of crap disease there is. Damn...it is on the tip of my toungue right now and I can't think of it!!!! Uggg, now I won't be able to sleep tonight. It is the one where everything hurts, there is no way to diagnose it, there is no cure, and you are strung out on drugs all the time to "feel better".

Skail: zappaisfrank: I think a large percentage of the people who are on "anti-depressents" don't need to be. I've seen the ravages of prescription drug abuse, within my own family and at the Narcotics Anonymous meetings I go to sometime. It makes me never want to take another pill of any sort ever again.

The one that kills me is "social anxiety disorder". If that isn't the biggest bunch of horseshiat evar, I don't know what is.

I agree with you, to a point. My girlfriend is bipolar....

I hate to be the one to tell you this, but if your girlfriend has two poles she's probably a dude. Or something even worse...

/You might want to check for an adam's apple

Who cares. If people want to dope themselves up, thats their business. It pumps lots of money into pharm companies and they use it to research useful drugs. Like zantac. So now I can have taco bell for lunch 6 times a week again.

Half of America is crazy?

Thats the same amount of pop that voted for Bush!

/Gore too...
//and that drink Pepsi.

Il Douchey: People are as sick as their options allow. Go to a poor country; there is no ADD, no ADHD, no Carpal Tunnel Syndrome, no Seasonal Affective Disorder, no OCD, no women trapped in a man's body, no Munchausen by proxy - These are the follies of the wealthy. Experience some real misfortune and watch how quickly these fashionable maladies fade away.

Either that or poor people in miserable countries don't have the resources to take care of themselves and just live with their illnesses and thus these things don't get captured in the statistics. Also, if you die earlier because of poor living conditions then you don't have the opportunity to live long enough to treat these sorts of things in the first place.

Maybe that's what we need to do in the US. Dismantle the social safety net completely and our poor people can die off sooner, or if they insist on living, at least they won't be able to take care of themselves properly.

And we make fun of the French who get, besides other holidays, 1 month of vacation every summer.

I wonder what my dad could have taught me and shared with me if we had one month to spend together every year.

/He and the Mrs. would have left money for McDonalds and remote control batteries, then run off to Vegas for 4 weeks of all you can eat prime rib and champagne buffets.

GoofingOff: My mother in law claims to have the biggest bunch of crap disease there is. Damn...it is on the tip of my toungue right now and I can't think of it!!!! Uggg, now I won't be able to sleep tonight. It is the one where everything hurts, there is no way to diagnose it, there is no cure, and you are strung out on drugs all the time to "feel better".

Fibromyalgia. Also referred to as the divorce disease.

If you need to take oral medicines, you should leave the country and leave us sane people alone.

You mean REALLY sick, or just stricken with the Yuppie Flu? I've got one of each in my family (of 2 people).

/yes, I am the lazy one

No, we are not all sick.
Most people on anti depressants are not mentally ill. They are just weak. Only a small number of people truly suffer from some sort of "chemical imbalance." The rest are just unable to actually deal with the problems in their life, and do things that would address them - like exercise, find a new boyfriend/girlfriend, work diligently, and/or manage money correctly.
People on anti depressants, in 95% of cases, just have no concept of personal responsibility, and are looking for an easy out.

Does this include "self medication" with booze or chocolate?

Most mental illnesses are devised and marketed to us by pharmaceutical companies looking to make a quick buck. Not all, but most.

Pincy: Il Douchey: People are as sick as their options allow. Go to a poor country; there is no ADD, no ADHD, no Carpal Tunnel Syndrome, no Seasonal Affective Disorder, no OCD, no women trapped in a man's body, no Munchausen by proxy - These are the follies of the wealthy. Experience some real misfortune and watch how quickly these fashionable maladies fade away.

There is a big difference between people not having the time to care about problems like the ones you listed (which is true), and the problems not existing.

I used to take anti-depressants. At the time I began, I very much needed them.

The problem was, three years later, I wanted off, and my psychiatrist was resistant. So was the next one I saw. In those three years, I had made enough life changes that I was genuinely happy. Yet the doctors kept up with "you will probably need to be on these the rest of your life because your brain doesn't work correctly".

I finally just quit, instead of properly ramping down under the supervision of a doctor.

Off over two years now, and never better.

what, did the obvious tag implode subby?

Was it George Carlin who said something like "When you start asking your doctor for drugs, he then becomes your drug dealer"...yeah something like that

I'm told it's now trendy for high schoolers, particularly girls, to have a therapist and meds.

I personally think it's become socially acceptable to be a drama queen and burst into tears over everything and demand pills to make it all go away.

'being crazy used to mean something, now everyone's crazy'

DulceEtDecorumEst: No, we are not all sick.
Most people on anti depressants are not mentally ill. They are just weak. Only a small number of people truly suffer from some sort of "chemical imbalance." The rest are just unable to actually deal with the problems in their life, and do things that would address them - like exercise, find a new boyfriend/girlfriend, work diligently, and/or manage money correctly.
People on anti depressants, in 95% of cases, just have no concept of personal responsibility, and are looking for an easy out.

you recommend vitamins ? Do you understand psychology? Need a couch to jump on?
Dose your expertise come from training, or did L.Ron blast the Thetons out of you to make you a expert?

A lot of your guys sound familiar...

Firemarshalbill: Pincy: Il Douchey: People are as sick as their options allow. Go to a poor country; there is no ADD, no ADHD, no Carpal Tunnel Syndrome, no Seasonal Affective Disorder, no OCD, no women trapped in a man's body, no Munchausen by proxy - These are the follies of the wealthy. Experience some real misfortune and watch how quickly these fashionable maladies fade away.

There is a big difference between people not having the time to care about problems like the ones you listed (which is true), and the problems not existing.

This. Some things are definitely over diagnosed, but conversely in many countries the real cases would be outright ignored since they have bigger things to worry about.

Is this where we weigh in with our various mental maladies in a reverse pissing contest/ AW?

Il Douchey: People are as sick as their options allow. Go to a poor country; there is no ADD, no ADHD, no Carpal Tunnel Syndrome, no Seasonal Affective Disorder, no OCD, no women trapped in a man's body, no Munchausen by proxy - These are the follies of the wealthy. Experience some real misfortune and watch how quickly these fashionable maladies fade away.

/If people make up problems, drug companies will make up solutions

Uh, no, you're absolutely 100% wrong. On every single account, not to mention you've confused actual physical impairments with psychiatric ones (which are also largely physical and chemical problems).

And I don't mean wrong in the sense that those things just haven't been reported for many reasons, but in the sense that not only have those things been reported, but many of those things date back centuries, to B.C. time periods.

wowzer97pooh: And we make fun of the French who get, besides other holidays, 1 month of vacation every summer.

I wonder what my dad could have taught me and shared with me if we had one month to spend together every year.

/He and the Mrs. would have left money for McDonalds and remote control batteries, then run off to Vegas for 4 weeks of all you can eat prime rib and champagne buffets.



We make fun of the French because they are cheese eating surrender monkeys.

/I like cheese