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(UPI)   The UN needs $500 million for food programs because donations from the U.S. are falling, and the agency urgently needs to hold lunch meetings at Le Cirque to decide how to spend the money   (upi.com) divider line 431
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2008-03-25 04:28:33 PM  
What there's people hungry in the world? There aren't any hungry people in China, Cuba, North Korea, and Venezuela. Anyways those obese Americans should have liposuction and donate their fat to straving people in Africa. Solution solved.
 
2008-03-25 04:29:20 PM  
Demon of the Fall:Yeah really, after the UN got down on its hands and knees to beg you guys to invade Iraq, this is how it repays you?

We had to invade Iraq in order to assure a sufficient supply of corpses to feed to keep Cheney fed.

www.cupjoe.com

/when he tries to shoot his own food, he screws it up
 
2008-03-25 04:29:47 PM  
Mnemia: Y2Jericho: US first
THEM second

I disagree, when the cost is minimal for us to save a lot of people's lives. Americans are valuing our own convenience and luxury over other people's lives. I think that's wrong.


The US gives more than double of any other country in foreign aid except for Japan and it's still not enough. And that's just in direct foreign aid by the government. Get over your America-isn't-doing-enough bashing.
 
2008-03-25 04:30:20 PM  
aedude01: If it's so COST effective, why aren't we already doing this? Because it isn't. That's why people freak out about aquifer contamination; because when you drink one dry its gone, for a good long time. Sure you can purify salt water and bottle it for a small community, but try doing it in a cost-effective manner for New York City...

/somehow I don't think you thought your cunning plan through.


Gee do I want expensive water or do I want to DIE? Oh I think I will choose life. Anyways what is your ingenious plan now Sherlock? I hear you ridiculing a lot but not actually making a plan.
 
2008-03-25 04:30:24 PM  
As an American who is neither fat nor rich, I am getting a kick out of these replies....
 
2008-03-25 04:30:42 PM  
ManicParroT: I find it funny that Americans are talking about how the UN has no credibility left. Because America has so much they can afford to point fingers.

I find it EQUALLY funny that you think that Americans should give a damn what YOU think.
 
F42
2008-03-25 04:30:42 PM  
Weaver95: filth: The UN's food programs are extremely important to oppressive regimes all over Africa.

that's true enough. without them, people might start toppling those crappy dictators and start feeding themselves.


Because starving, half dead peasants are so strong against well fed and well armed military forces.
 
2008-03-25 04:30:59 PM  
Mnemia: What happens when world population keeps on growing and standards of living keep increasing? Eventually we will run out of the ability to grow enough crops for all to have an American-style lifestyle. We're straining all kinds of resources already. Should we just let a bunch of people starve, downgrade some people's lifestyles, cap population growth somehow??

First, we kill all the Malthusans. Not because there's not enough resources for them but simply because they are annoying. Then Asians switch from water-intensive low-yield rice to less-water intensive, high-yield wheat. That alone gets world food way up in terms of Kcal AND frees up more water for sanitation, etc. We'll deal with other stuff as it comes up.
 
2008-03-25 04:31:39 PM  
netsharc: Reading the comments here, the one thing that Bush-Rove machine did succeed in is changing the perception of the UN in the eyes of average Americans. If you don't like the UN, guess what, you just bought Bush's propaganda! Sure you may think you may know the "facts", but I really have to wonder where you got those facts...

To some of you, who are you anyway to think you deserve to live more than those starving Africans?

There is YouTube video (not a rickroll) which sums up the world nicely: there are 7 people stranded on an island, 1 of them American, the rest from the rest of the world. Each got a task, one was to fish, one was to gather firewood, and the American's job is to consume. In the American's eye, without him, everybody would be out of work! Whereas without the American, they would just have enough with less work...

I'm in favour of moving all the Americans to Africa and Africans to America...


Just how young are you? The dislike of the UN has been growing for decades, almost since inception, as their incessant demand for more while cursing the US has grown ever louder.

/must be nice to have myopic eyes
 
2008-03-25 04:31:41 PM  
I'm a Canadian and I can recognize that the U.S. has done more than its fair share in contributing to humanitarian efforts (I mention that I'm Canadian because I've met far too many jackass Canadians with an undeserved sense of elitism). If the rest of the world is still committed to these seemingly futile philanthropic projects that's fine, but we should be prepared to pick it up on our own bill.
 
2008-03-25 04:31:43 PM  
Seems to me that if I pay a percentage of my pay to federal taxes, and the govt decides to give some of that money to other countries to take care of their problems, then my hard work is paying for others to eat. Done.

Now if you have a local issue that should be resolved by state and local govt, they should use existing taxes to handle things the same way. State and local govt are not taking care of their local poor and homeless. Done.

I have more of a chance of addressing state and local issue with my tax dollars, than I do with my federal taxes. Let me keep my federal money, pay larger tax rates on what I purchase, and then point a finger when I don't donate to causes. Real human / citizen involvement comes from CHOOSING to do good things, rather than have them done for you without representation. However until the process is altered, then I live within the system and grow tired of people asking for more. Done.

/people who don't contribute to society are causing the problems.
 
2008-03-25 04:32:08 PM  
Gosling:
Ask Iraq how well they're being protected. In the meantime, I think we can sell off one fighter jet. That should give us the $500 million right there.


Not the fighter jet, Precious! We needs it!
 
2008-03-25 04:32:11 PM  
ManicParroT:I find it funny that Americans are talking about how the UN has no credibility left. Because America has so much they can afford to point fingers.

It makes perfect sense. We are in a unique position to point out how impotent the UN is. They could not even prevent us from invading Iraq.

watch.windsofchange.net
 
2008-03-25 04:32:26 PM  
Demon of the Fall
Broken Window Fallacy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken_window#War


Please elaborate how that applies to what I said.
 
2008-03-25 04:32:50 PM  
F42: Because starving, half dead peasants are so strong against well fed and well armed military forces.

"Society is only 3 meals away from revolution"
 
2008-03-25 04:32:59 PM  
We could start a nuclear wear and postpone this dialogue for... I dunno... a few centuries.
 
2008-03-25 04:33:05 PM  
ManicParroT: I find it funny that Americans are talking about how the UN has no credibility left. Because America has so much they can afford to point fingers.

Exactly. Since our 'credibilty' is gone, let's stop being the leading financial and food aid givers on the planet and start looking after our own. We're evil monsters anyway, why try to fool the world by giving more help than anyone else like we have been doing for decades?
/UN sucks
 
F42
2008-03-25 04:33:18 PM  
Y2Jericho: I find it EQUALLY funny that you think that Americans should give a damn what YOU think.

Doesn't he know that Americans only care about Americans? The fool.
 
2008-03-25 04:33:27 PM  
Subsidizing something encourages further production of it. Time to stop subsidizing third-world shiatholes.
 
2008-03-25 04:33:40 PM  
The UN!
img135.imageshack.us
 
2008-03-25 04:33:41 PM  
Nuclear wear.

www.ki4u.com
 
2008-03-25 04:33:54 PM  
The UN food program is full of fail. There are other programs in place that feed the world. So the Un can quit whining. People will be fed or maybe it is Gods plan for some people to not have food in a dry desert. I am just saying. Personally I think it is a way to argue gas prices.
 
2008-03-25 04:34:01 PM  
I have it, lets colonize the moon. Its made out of cheese right?
 
2008-03-25 04:34:02 PM  
samimgreen: The US gives more than double of any other country in foreign aid except for Japan and it's still not enough. And that's just in direct foreign aid by the government. Get over your America-isn't-doing-enough bashing.

Depends on what you consider "enough".
 
F42
2008-03-25 04:34:05 PM  
Nightjars: F42: Because starving, half dead peasants are so strong against well fed and well armed military forces.

"Society is only 3 meals away from revolution"


That's for those who get three meals a day. The starving masses, however, just don't have the energy.
 
2008-03-25 04:35:00 PM  
Simple. The UN has historically come to the US for donations because the US was generally a rich nation.

Time to go to the Middle East for your donations now, as they're the ones hoarding all the money now.
 
2008-03-25 04:35:35 PM  
I call on all women to swallow until we can work all of this out.
 
2008-03-25 04:35:39 PM  
corbell: We could start a nuclear wear and postpone this dialogue for... I dunno... a few centuries.

nuclear wear?
i272.photobucket.com
 
2008-03-25 04:35:44 PM  
netsharc: I'm in favour of moving all the Americans to Africa and Africans to America...

Why not, then in 20 years Africa would be producing 10 times as much food as it uses and its industry would be developing at an absurd rate. With all that new incentive to not starve driving those ex-Americans it'd become a new world power in no time probably. America on the other hand would be carved into hundreds of little fiefdoms ruled over by insane corrupt warlords. The ex-africans would all be starving once they ran out of cans to break open for food, land to strip farm into uselessness and all that.
 
2008-03-25 04:35:45 PM  
netsharc: There is YouTube video (not a rickroll) which sums up the world nicely: there are 7 people stranded on an island, 1 of them American, the rest from the rest of the world. Each got a task, one was to fish, one was to gather firewood, and the American's job is to consume. In the American's eye, without him, everybody would be out of work! Whereas without the American, they would just have enough with less work...

Oh so cute, but to be fair, you would have to include that the American was busy increasing the quality of the fishing nets so the catches were better, making carrying containers and then a wheelbarrow to gather more firewood, developing the tools necessary to cook and survive, AND they had the gun which kept the biggest person from continuously stealing from the weakest.


I'm in favour of moving all the Americans to Africa and Africans to America...

And you know what? Americans would probably still come out on top again after a generation of redeveloping the infrastructure. It's the culture more than anything at this point....

/hippy communist...
 
2008-03-25 04:35:56 PM  
Kanemano: The World Food Program, which feeds about 73 million people worldwide.


What have you done today?


By not giving money to pump free food into Africa, I indirectly contribute to the long-term wellbeing and development of countless people.
 
2008-03-25 04:35:58 PM  
* United Press International is owned by Sun Myung Moon, the cult leader

* Longtime Moonie leader Josette Shiner was appointed by the Bush Administration to head the U.N. World Food Program

* Kinda interesting
 
2008-03-25 04:36:01 PM  
HAMMERTOE

Time to go to the Middle East for your donations now, as they're the ones hoarding all the money now.

Thank you.
 
2008-03-25 04:36:06 PM  
aedude01 -

Reverse Osmosis - salt water is filtered through special membranes at high pressure/low flow rate.

This is common technology in the US but requires a certain amount of technical expertise.
 
2008-03-25 04:36:16 PM  
The Voice of Doom:I wonder how many jobs are directly or indirectly connected with the military and related industries in the US - isn't that basically the only industry branch where the US still produces on a world class level and hasn't outsourced most of the production?

www.dvdactive.com

Life, which you so nobly serve, comes from destruction, disorder and chaos. Take this empty glass. Here it is, peaceful, serene and boring. But if it is... destroyed... [enter cleaning robots] Look at all these little things. So busy now. Notice how each one is useful. What a lovely ballet ensues so full of form and color. Now, think about all those people that created them. Technicians, engineers, hundreds of people who'll be able to feed their children tonight so those children can grow up big and strong and have little teeny weeny children of their own, and so on and so forth. Thus, adding to the great chain... of life.
 
2008-03-25 04:36:28 PM  
The Voice of Doom: Demon of the Fall
Broken Window Fallacy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken_window#War

Please elaborate how that applies to what I said.


Caught that also...it doesn't.
 
2008-03-25 04:36:29 PM  
netsharc: I'm in favour of moving all the Americans to Africa and Africans to America...

As long as we're calling out people for problems they didn't create, thanks for the Holocaust, dickhead. And remind me again..who colonized parts of Africa? Germany or the United States?
 
2008-03-25 04:36:52 PM  
F42: Nightjars: F42: Because starving, half dead peasants are so strong against well fed and well armed military forces.

"Society is only 3 meals away from revolution"

That's for those who get three meals a day. The starving masses, however, just don't have the energy.


they sure reproduce like they DO.
 
2008-03-25 04:37:39 PM  
netsharc:To some of you, who are you anyway to think you deserve to live more than those starving Africans?

What happens to you in life has very little to do with what you deserve. When life is good to you, that's a good thing. When life is bad to you, that's a bad thing.
 
2008-03-25 04:38:23 PM  
Mnemia-

There is a current movement in the US for beef production to go back to grass fed cattle instead of grain fed.


/It's the meat that you grew up with!
 
2008-03-25 04:38:42 PM  
The Voice of Doom: Demon of the Fall
Broken Window Fallacy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken_window#War

Please elaborate how that applies to what I said.


Well a lot of people use the argument that the United States has to keep funding its military-industrial complex to the degree it does because the economy would suffer too much if it stopped.

Where that argument fails is that a lot of industry/manpower/research/resources would get re-directed towards other means and perhaps cause an even greater economic stimulus.

For example, military spending in Western Europe has dried up from the all-time highs of World War II but instead of their economies shrivelling up and dieing they slammed a lot of money into education and infrastructure, which the effects are now being seen in the creation of a strong economic Euro entity.
 
2008-03-25 04:38:47 PM  
F42: Y2Jericho: I find it EQUALLY funny that you think that Americans should give a damn what YOU think.

Doesn't he know that Americans only care about Americans? The fool.


No, we give more than any other country, twice as much even. It's not that we don't care about anyone else, it's just that we cannot care what you think since you continue to bite the hand that is feeding so many.

/It's not me, it's you...
 
2008-03-25 04:39:04 PM  
netsharc: Reading the comments here, the one thing that Bush-Rove machine did succeed in is changing the perception of the UN in the eyes of average Americans. If you don't like the UN, guess what, you just bought Bush's propaganda! Sure you may think you may know the "facts", but I really have to wonder where you got those facts...

To some of you, who are you anyway to think you deserve to live more than those starving Africans?

There is YouTube video (not a rickroll) which sums up the world nicely: there are 7 people stranded on an island, 1 of them American, the rest from the rest of the world. Each got a task, one was to fish, one was to gather firewood, and the American's job is to consume. In the American's eye, without him, everybody would be out of work! Whereas without the American, they would just have enough with less work...

I'm in favour of moving all the Americans to Africa and Africans to America...


Wow that is so full of fail I can't believe that even a liberal idiot could not see it. Let us modify that scenario a bit to make it more like what you are trying to portray. All you have to do is give the American something that is useless for survival, say marijuana, but that all six of the others want and are willing to trade for. Sure they could ignore the American and just produce the essential to survive, but then they would not be able to get their buzz on.

Now if you really wanted to make more like the world today, let us make it so the American is the only one with the knowledge of how to do the essential survival tasks and the only one who can think up improvements in those tasks. The American then owns the intellectual property for those tasks and rents that knowledge to the other six. Once the knowledge has been spread to the other six they can do it for themselves, but they have to pay for the knowledge before the American will teach them. Oh and let's say the American has a big club, call it the World Trade Organization, with which to enforce his property rights insureing that he continues to get paid for his good ideas. Now you have a better picture of what is going on in the world.
 
2008-03-25 04:39:40 PM  
I ran a charity golf tournament for 15 yrs. Basically a bunch
of guys 18 to 60 getting drunk, playing golf and having fun for
a good cause.
The charities...Boy's club.. etc were there with their hand out
I said no thanks...We'd pick someone we thought deserving, cancer
patient....someone needing a kidney..and give them 100% of the money...
About 5 of them are dead now, but we helped while we could..

I don't like contributing to an agency that keeps 90% of the proceeds...the UN would never get anything from me...
 
2008-03-25 04:40:09 PM  
notice they ask the United States for the money. No one else, just us.

We feed the world. In return, the world says thanks.

Or fark you. Ungrateful bastards. Let them starve.
 
2008-03-25 04:40:19 PM  
paradroid: * United Press International is owned by Sun Myung Moon, the cult leader

* Longtime Moonie leader Josette Shiner was appointed by the Bush Administration to head the U.N. World Food Program

* Kinda interesting


well at least there is truth in advertising in your screen name.
/Reefer madness!!!
 
2008-03-25 04:40:30 PM  
Gosling:
Other nations don't actually eat corn that much. When we send it to Africa, they tend to scratch their heads and wonder why we keep sending them animal feed. I know it sounds stupid, but that's how it is- you gotta find some crop they DON'T give to the animals and send them that.


Or maybe since they are farking STARVING, they can farking eat what we send them.
 
2008-03-25 04:40:33 PM  
netsharc: I'm in favour of moving all the Americans to Africa and Africans to America...

Ask the subjects of Mr. Mugabe how that worked out.
 
2008-03-25 04:40:36 PM  
Gosling: They're going to keep growing. And they're calling on us in the Great Lakes region to give them our water

Ya realy think so? I mean i have been in those lakes, and am not hip to the idea of drinking that water.....

Just kidding, acutely the GL have been cleaned up pretty good. Look on the bright side, they wont ask for your water till they made the PNW a wasteland first.
 
2008-03-25 04:40:37 PM  
40oz_A_Knight: And remind me again..who colonized parts of Africa?

uh, yeah, if you're European and you are somehow on a high horse about Africa of all places, you really should STFU...
 
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