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(Breitbart.com)   Oil prices, bad weather, an increased demand for meat, and smelly hippies using ethanol and biodiesel in their VW microbuses causing grain prices to rise worldwide   (breitbart.com) divider line 22
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2008-03-24 02:37:24 PM
Ethanol = scam
 
2008-03-24 02:41:44 PM
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For your information, I pull Moonflower around in a rickshaw, man!
(There's no ethanol in those brownies she fuels me up with.)
 
2008-03-24 02:43:43 PM
Damn those hippy governments around the world mandating an ethanol/gas blend!
Damn them to hell I say!!!!
 
2008-03-24 02:48:02 PM
It's not hippies who are using/advocating/subsidizing ethanol, dumbass.
 
2008-03-24 02:49:54 PM
Your average eco-hippie knows that corn sucks.

All the eco-hippies I know are running used cooking oil in their diesels.

Your average beer geek knows that ethanol is causing the current hops shortage. *shakes fist*
 
2008-03-24 03:03:24 PM
I'm pretty sure VW didn't bring diesel microbuses to the US.
 
2008-03-24 03:10:30 PM
GurneyHalleck: Your average beer geek knows that ethanol is causing the current hops shortage. *shakes fist*

wrong. ethanol is to blame for the grain shortage. the hops shortage is due to a piss poor growing season.

Nestea Plunge: Ethanol = scam

Nestea Plunge = trolltard
 
2008-03-24 03:32:22 PM
doublesecretprobation: GurneyHalleck: Your average beer geek knows that ethanol is causing the current hops shortage. *shakes fist*

wrong. ethanol is to blame for the grain shortage. the hops shortage is due to a piss poor growing season.

Nestea Plunge: Ethanol = scam

Nestea Plunge = trolltard


Ethanol is a scam. You're mostly right about the hops though. It has more to do with Hops farmers abandoning low paying hops farming for other crops - some of which have chosen to plant corn for ethanol.

Sadly it takes 5 years for a hop vine to mature so the hops shortage is here to stay for a while.

The grain shortage OTOH could just last a couple years but the ramifications are far more terrifying.
 
2008-03-24 03:41:41 PM
quickdraw: Ethanol is a scam.

*yawn*.

also, the hops shortage has little, if anything to do with ethanol.
 
2008-03-24 03:56:15 PM
doublesecretprobation: GurneyHalleck: Your average beer geek knows that ethanol is causing the current hops shortage. *shakes fist*

wrong. ethanol is to blame for the grain shortage. the hops shortage is due to a piss poor growing season.



Tell that to the guy at my local brewer supply shop. He insists that it's because so many hop farmers are going for the big money crop. But yes, you're right, the bad hops harvest is a large factor. Either way, add 2 to 3 dollars to the price of your favorite hoppy beer.
 
2008-03-24 05:24:23 PM
As a hippy, I want a microbus. I want one badly.

/and then I want to completely rebuild the engine so it'll run
 
2008-03-24 05:32:12 PM
GaryPDX: quickdraw:, ethanol would be far better if they get off food grains and on to cellulose based. The stuff they used to mix with gas was very toxic.

Maybe on that front, but the topic here is the impact on food prices. Switching to another source would help only marginally at best, if that alternative can be grown in the same areas as corn. If farmers decide they can make more money growing switchgrass instead of corn, it cuts down on the available corn supply just as if they grew corn for fuel.

Not saying it's ultimately good or bad, but it does have an impact.
 
2008-03-24 05:32:51 PM
Isn't Biodiesel made from vegetable oil? Thus not really from grain as such.

That said, I have about five gallons of used peanut oil that would work very nicely in a properly converted diesel vehicle, and unfortunately my two cars both run on 87 octane gasoline. So if anyone wants it (the peanut oil, that is) EIP. You kind of need to live in southeastern PA though.
 
2008-03-24 05:34:45 PM
www.ifthatisyourrealname.com

Bring me the one called "Smelly Hippie"...
 
FZ6
2008-03-24 05:43:57 PM
GaryPDX: quickdraw:, ethanol would be far better if they get off food grains and on to cellulose based. The stuff they used to mix with gas was very toxic.

The problem is that the technology isn't here yet. The closest so far is Iogen.

Also, you still need to put something in to the process to get something else out. Most people are looking to things like switchgrass.

The major issue is that farmers are growing more corn because it's worth more to them. Between the tax breaks and the price of corn right now, it's the best way to go.
 
FZ6
2008-03-24 05:45:07 PM
And let me correct myself...

"The closest so far"...

...to coming up with a plan that would allow for mass production/distribution on a commercial scale...

..."is Iogen."
 
2008-03-24 07:01:10 PM
Weaps: Isn't Biodiesel made from vegetable oil? Thus not really from grain as such

vegetable oil = soybean oil, usually. sure it's a legume, but it's grow on cropland
 
2008-03-24 07:03:05 PM
Does the U.S still pay its farmers to plow their crop back into the field to keep prices high? I remember reading that was done during the depression but dunno if its still done.
 
2008-03-24 07:09:44 PM
Nice try, subby, but hippies use old french fry grease in their eco-rides wherever possible. Being stoned all the time, they can't get enough of the smell of their exhaust.
 
2008-03-24 10:06:52 PM
Nestea Plunge: Ethanol = scam

Why? You can process corn for ethanol and feed the leftover material to cows. Doesn't hurt their growth either.

/grain fed cow beef is better anyway

Ken_B: Does the U.S still pay its farmers to plow their crop back into the field to keep prices high? I remember reading that was done during the depression but dunno if its still done.

As of last year, yes.
 
2008-03-24 11:40:33 PM
Monsanto controls world corn prices. period. nobody else. Monsanto not only owns the patents to corn around th world but controls when people plants and harvest. That single company has used WTO regulations to drive the price up. None of this other crap is even worth considering as a cause for the price increase.

This is what you get from a worldwide monopoly; one that prevents farmers around the world from keeping seeds from one year to plant in the next.
 
2008-03-25 12:44:22 AM
Damn smelly hippies.
 
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