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(Some Guy)   Cool: Sony offers to remove shovelware from their laptops before shipping them to you. Stupid: for a $50 fee   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 40
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2008-03-21 02:39:11 PM
Oh my God the company is charging me to remove software that otherwise represents a revenue stream for them which will shrink when the third-party software vendors realize they're not getting their product in front of as many faces! It's so unfair! I need to whine to somebody! Somebody listen to me whine! LISTEN TO ME WHINE!
 
2008-03-21 02:50:47 PM
It's almost worth it, to get a PC with a clean OS installation. I'd consider it, when you're at the cash register where they're loading your bill with everything from cables to extended warranties. What's another fifty bucks...yeah, give me a clean install.
 
2008-03-21 03:38:13 PM
Pocket Ninja: Oh my God the company is charging me to remove software that otherwise represents a revenue stream for them which will shrink when the third-party software vendors realize they're not getting their product in front of as many faces! It's so unfair! I need to whine to somebody! Somebody listen to me whine! LISTEN TO ME WHINE!

Thread over. Since I have nothing germane to the subject to add, here's a pair of bouncing boobs:

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2008-03-21 03:38:23 PM
 
2008-03-21 03:38:36 PM
$50 is only worth it if they give you the OS install disc so you can do it yourself.
 
2008-03-21 03:43:24 PM
If you purchase this option, will they give you a recovery CD with all the bloatware removed as well?

Why not just head over to Newegg and pick up a WindowsXP Pro OEM CD for $140. Then you won't have to worry about the bloatware and having to purchase Vista Pro in order to get that removal option.
 
2008-03-21 03:43:37 PM
My Vista Lenovo box does not have bloatware. But the crap that Lenovo puts in is a pain to find every bit of it to turn off..

/A system does not need to defrag once a week.
//System does not need to connect to Lenovo for special offers.
///Maintenance helper does not need to be running.
////Other than that a decent free machine from my ISP.
//Had to add a graphics card and double the memory to 1 gig.
//Vista basic is ehhhhhhhhhhh.
 
2008-03-21 03:48:25 PM
The real failure here is that people buy Sony laptops.

Sony: pay more, get less. Guaranteed.
 
2008-03-21 03:48:52 PM
Once again it proves that less is more.
 
2008-03-21 03:49:39 PM
I am in charge of deploying laptops where I work and we got a couple of fancy dancy HP 17 inch behemoths of a laptop for a couple of graphic designers to use. It was preloaded with so much shiat that it took more than 20 minutes for everything to load up and get to the desktop the first time i turned it on.

I could just see that all the bloatware installed was going to be an issue and said "fark it". wiped the drive and loaded XP from scratch. might have taken longer to actually get the laptops deployed, but I am sure I saved myself time in the long run.

matter of fact the first thing I do now when I get a model that I havent previously deployed I wipe and create a custom image I can use as more of the same model come my way.
 
2008-03-21 03:51:00 PM
Enuratique:
Thread over. Since I have nothing germane to the subject to add, here's a pair of bouncing boobs:


O my gentle jeebus... thank you for that. If I had $5 you would have totalfark my friend, even if I don't
 
2008-03-21 03:51:08 PM
Pocket Ninja: Oh my God the company is charging me to remove software that otherwise represents a revenue stream for them which will shrink when the third-party software vendors realize they're not getting their product in front of as many faces! It's so unfair! I need to whine to somebody! Somebody listen to me whine! LISTEN TO ME WHINE!

So... are the people who buy the notebook the customers, or the farking product to shovelware whores who get their shiat junked onto said notebooks?
 
2008-03-21 03:57:08 PM
Bloody William: So... are the people who buy the notebook the customers, or the farking product to shovelware whores who get their shiat junked onto said notebooks?

The customers.

The shovelware whores are what made the notebook $50 cheaper than it would otherwise be.

As they're no longer paying the $50...someone has to.
 
2008-03-21 03:58:24 PM
What no more bloat
i29.tinypic.com
 
2008-03-21 03:59:58 PM
Bloody William: Pocket Ninja: Oh my God the company is charging me to remove software that otherwise represents a revenue stream for them which will shrink when the third-party software vendors realize they're not getting their product in front of as many faces! It's so unfair! I need to whine to somebody! Somebody listen to me whine! LISTEN TO ME WHINE!

So... are the people who buy the notebook the customers, or the farking product to shovelware whores who get their shiat junked onto said notebooks?



Next thing you know, we'll all have to watch obtrusive advertising from big corporations any time we want to watch a TV show. Oh wait...

/Get over it crybaby. Look for the the little icon that says Control Panel and find the Uninstall feature.
 
2008-03-21 04:03:22 PM
Send it to me and I will do it for $10. And I will pupload as much porn as you want on it.
 
2008-03-21 04:04:08 PM
I just uninstalled a lot of crap when I got my Sony. biatch hasn't died on me yet.
 
2008-03-21 04:05:13 PM
Enuratique: Pocket Ninja: Oh my God the company is charging me to remove software that otherwise represents a revenue stream for them which will shrink when the third-party software vendors realize they're not getting their product in front of as many faces! It's so unfair! I need to whine to somebody! Somebody listen to me whine! LISTEN TO ME WHINE!

Thread over. Since I have nothing germane to the subject to add, here's a pair of bouncing boobs:


There went my productivity for the day.
 
2008-03-21 04:11:04 PM
Ever hear of XP Pro Essentials? Not that I would ever condone such a thing...


/works well
 
2008-03-21 04:11:23 PM
Whenever I buy a laptop I just reformat the hard drive and reinstall the OS and the latest drivers from the website. All that garbage that makers like dell and sony put on them totally wrecks functionality and the overall efficiency of the system.
 
2008-03-21 04:20:50 PM
Enuratique: Pocket Ninja: Oh my God the company is charging me to remove software that otherwise represents a revenue stream for them which will shrink when the third-party software vendors realize they're not getting their product in front of as many faces! It's so unfair! I need to whine to somebody! Somebody listen to me whine! LISTEN TO ME WHINE!

Thread over. Since I have nothing germane to the subject to add, here's a pair of bouncing boobs:


I am intrigued by your argument.

Do you perhaps have a newsletter to which I may subscribe?
 
2008-03-21 04:32:27 PM
Let see, I make more than $50 an hour on my current contract, and I claimed my new laptop as a business expense, so basically this is one hour of my labor. It took me just under an hour to load up the laptop with Windows, and another 20 to load Ubuntu.

Ok I'd spend that, as long as they also partitioned the disk to my specs, not that I buy a Sony.
 
2008-03-21 04:33:12 PM
Pocket Ninja: tl;dr

Go buy one from another company
 
2008-03-21 04:51:50 PM
masteroffm: I ... said "fark it". wiped the drive and loaded XP from scratch.

At my employer, we buy a thousand or more laptops at a time and Dell sends them to us pre-configured for our network and preloaded with all of our software that our users use (e.g. Cisco VPN, some internal apps, etc.) and no bloatware. So if you buy enough machines, they'll send them to you just the way you want them. That saved our support guys a ton of time--they pull 'em out of the box, plug them in, ready to go.
 
2008-03-21 05:00:12 PM
The fee is now removed, starting March 22 it will be free.
 
2008-03-21 05:11:03 PM
The Dell Vostro series does not come with any bloat.
And Windows XP is still available.
 
2008-03-21 06:05:42 PM
That's cheaper than it'd cost to have me come over and do it for you, so not a bad deal. Sad that they caved and made it "free". I bet their bloatware vendors are pissed. But yeah, Boobies nailed it.
 
2008-03-21 06:06:41 PM
oh I forgot, ty for boobies.
 
2008-03-21 06:10:04 PM
nerdoverlord: That's cheaper than it'd cost to have me come over and do it for you, so not a bad deal. Sad that they caved and made it "free". I bet their bloatware vendors are pissed. But yeah, Boobies nailed it.

nerdoverlord: oh I forgot, ty for boobies.

The filter said it for you.
 
2008-03-21 06:39:03 PM
betona: masteroffm: I ... said "fark it". wiped the drive and loaded XP from scratch.

At my employer, we buy a thousand or more laptops at a time and Dell sends them to us pre-configured for our network and preloaded with all of our software that our users use (e.g. Cisco VPN, some internal apps, etc.) and no bloatware. So if you buy enough machines, they'll send them to you just the way you want them. That saved our support guys a ton of time--they pull 'em out of the box, plug them in, ready to go.


i only have to support about 200 people total and deploy only a handful of laptops a month. if we had a large volume of laptops to deploy all at once I would just create an image and work with the value-add dept and have them do all of the imaging. right now if i have a current image, i can deploy and have a user up and running in under 15 minutes if I dont have to transfer files/settings.

/works for computer components distributor
 
2008-03-21 06:49:38 PM
format
suse
done
 
2008-03-21 06:52:22 PM
google pc-decrapifier. It is a utility that some person wrote to script the uninstallation of bloatware. Doesn't get everything, but it does get the bulk of the junk off - saves quite a bit of time. It's free for personal use.
 
2008-03-21 06:57:18 PM
Whatthefark: If you purchase this option, will they give you a recovery CD with all the bloatware removed as well?

Why not just head over to Newegg snarf-it.org and pick up download a WindowsXP Pro OEM CD copy of windows xp lite for $140. fark all Then you won't have to worry about the bloatware and having to purchase Vista Pro in order to get that removal option.
 
2008-03-21 07:11:00 PM
Submitter here.

The reason this article struck me is that Dell doesn't charge you to keep the shovelware off the system (of course, there are still a few things that they put on, like acrobat reader), but selecting the 'no preinstalled software' option makes things a bit cleaner.

/no matter, I'm one of those "wipe it and start from scratch" people.

Whatthefark: Why not just head over to Newegg and pick up a WindowsXP Pro OEM CD for $140. Then you won't have to worry about the bloatware and having to purchase Vista Pro in order to get that removal option.

what if you already have an XP CD?

/install XP on new laptop
/install unbuntu on old machine
/or hell, just unbuntu everything
 
2008-03-21 07:24:03 PM
TheGreyPiper: Bloody William: Pocket Ninja: Oh my God the company is charging me to remove software that otherwise represents a revenue stream for them which will shrink when the third-party software vendors realize they're not getting their product in front of as many faces! It's so unfair! I need to whine to somebody! Somebody listen to me whine! LISTEN TO ME WHINE!

So... are the people who buy the notebook the customers, or the farking product to shovelware whores who get their shiat junked onto said notebooks?


Next thing you know, we'll all have to watch obtrusive advertising from big corporations any time we want to watch a TV show. Oh wait...

/Get over it crybaby. Look for the the little icon that says Control Panel and find the Uninstall feature.


of course..because we all know how cleanly those programs remove themselves from the registry.

when i got my (re-imaged) laptop back from service, the first thing i did was format and perform a clean install of XP. no more orphaned entries floating around gumming up the registry here...
 
2008-03-21 08:08:12 PM
TheGreyPiper: Next thing you know, we'll all have to watch obtrusive advertising from big corporations any time we want to watch a TV show.

On TV, the ads pay for a significant chunk of the content, so are tolerated to a degree (but even there, people get HBO or DVRs to avoid it as much as possible). Whereas on laptop, you're paying for a significant chunk of the hardware cost.

If you have customers telling you that they don't want that stuff preinstalled on their systems the advertiser is getting screwed in the deal either way.

They want people to use their software and possibly upgrade, but here you have a consumer that says outright "I don't want your software". You don't want our software? Pay us $50.

What's next, getting charged to order a burger with no pickles because vlassic paid money?

/Pissing off your customers is no way to run a business.

/You shouldn't be trying to advertise to people who have already stated that they don't want any of your crap, what are you, a telemarkerter?
 
2008-03-21 08:31:38 PM
Enuratique: Thread over. Since I have nothing germane to the subject to add, here's a pair of bouncing boobs:

That was totally SFW.
 
2008-03-21 09:15:21 PM
blahpers

That was totally SFW. FTW.

/FIFY
 
2008-03-21 10:36:13 PM
blahpers: Enuratique: Thread over. Since I have nothing germane to the subject to add, here's a pair of bouncing boobs:

That was totally SFW.


What, you don't like boobs or something?
 
2008-03-23 01:22:08 PM
How difficult is it to reformat one's hard disk and do a clean install of Windows? It takes a few hours, but it's easy.
 
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