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2008-03-18 09:52:54 AM  
FTFA: Several sections of I-95, including the volumn in question, had been scheduled for repair later this year, Blaum said.

Some fine proofreading there.
 
2008-03-18 09:56:22 AM  
El Chode: FarkedOver: El Chode: FarkedOver: It could be worse, you could be on a Septa train with me....*cries with his head in his hands*

What train do you ride? I ride the R2 from Wilmington with the asian who gives me death stares every morning.

I am on the R7 lots of Jersey folk. Lots of philly farkers...Whens the fark party?

TF is suspiciously devoid of any Philly farkers, or at least any cool ones. I will hopefully be back in Jersey before the year is over.

Hi, I'm in Delaware...


I am in Philly, but I am not cool in any sense of the word. I just moved here in August. North East representin!
 
2008-03-18 09:56:40 AM  
Surly_Duff: I so don't trust the engineers of PennDOT.

Not too far from this crack, over by Bridge Street, is a large and impressive array of overpasses and cloverleaf-ish exits. Amidst this construction are three HUGE support columns like the one with the crack in it... except they don't support anything. Just three fat columns, jutting straight into the air.

I asked a friend who worked in roaconstruction about it - apparently they were put up by mistake, but it would cost more to take them down then to leave them there as an admission of a big fark-up.


They weren'tr put up by mistake. When I-95 was first constructed they overbuilt the highway and ran out of funding. Those piers were for the connection to the Betsy Ross Bridge. Those columsn were later fixed and then used for the connection completed in the late 90's-early '00's.
 
2008-03-18 09:58:06 AM  
Ludendorff's Ghost: FarkedOver: El Chode: FarkedOver: It could be worse, you could be on a Septa train with me....*cries with his head in his hands*

What train do you ride? I ride the R2 from Wilmington with the asian who gives me death stares every morning.

I am on the R7 lots of Jersey folk. Lots of philly farkers...Whens the fark party?

hah. I'm on the R2 from Wilminton too. I have not seen the Asian death stare, but the chubby yapping anime chick should shut up about her personal life, because the rest of us do not want to know. That and the ham-beasts taking up all the seats. And all the brothers camped out like they live there. (Who knows, may they do).


On the R7 I get the emo kid that talks loud to make sure everyone can hear his sensitive take on the issues of the world. I want to punch him in the mouth.
 
2008-03-18 10:00:51 AM  
FarkedOver: Ludendorff's Ghost: FarkedOver: El Chode: FarkedOver: It could be worse, you could be on a Septa train with me....*cries with his head in his hands*

What train do you ride? I ride the R2 from Wilmington with the asian who gives me death stares every morning.

I am on the R7 lots of Jersey folk. Lots of philly farkers...Whens the fark party?

hah. I'm on the R2 from Wilminton too. I have not seen the Asian death stare, but the chubby yapping anime chick should shut up about her personal life, because the rest of us do not want to know. That and the ham-beasts taking up all the seats. And all the brothers camped out like they live there. (Who knows, may they do).

On the R7 I get the emo kid that talks loud to make sure everyone can hear his sensitive take on the issues of the world. I want to punch him in the mouth.



Greetings all! I'm a daily rider of the R5 from Ardmore to Wayne.
 
2008-03-18 10:01:27 AM  
Charles Darwin shakes his leathery fist at the sky once more.
 
2008-03-18 10:02:14 AM  
KJM315: Some fine proofreading there.

Well, the changed it, before, tfa said 'the crack, which ranged from 2 to several inches wide' but now they have '2 to 4 inches' wide.

Anyway.

/does not need i95 around the city
//only when heading south
///knows of like 6 on-ramps to it
 
2008-03-18 10:03:58 AM  
EvilGnome: actually those 3 pillars were to be part of a bridge over 95, for the roadway that was supposed to cut across north philly from the betsy ross bridge to 76 right where City Line ave meets up. You can see the beginnings of the bridge to the bottom right in your map link. The plan is still being kicked around from my understanding, and they may actually build it one of these decades. You know, after philly gets a little less bankrupt?

/The more you know...



Thank you so much for explaining why they are there. Every time I drive past those things I always wonder... the "mistake" theory just didn't make sense. Governments always cover up mistakes, they don't leave 'em out there for all to see (except maybe Iraq, but that is another thread -bah-dum-bum- rimshot).
 
2008-03-18 10:04:07 AM  
FarkedOver: I am in Philly, but I am not cool in any sense of the word. I just moved here in August. North East representin!

I just moved here in August too and I'm dying to get out if I can survive the drivers.

Ludendorff's Ghost: hah. I'm on the R2 from Wilminton too. I have not seen the Asian death stare, but the chubby yapping anime chick should shut up about her personal life, because the rest of us do not want to know. That and the ham-beasts taking up all the seats. And all the brothers camped out like they live there. (Who knows, may they do).

Don't get me wrong, I stare too, but only from the safety of mirrored aviators. The asian has been staring me down ever since the day 3 weeks ago the train stalled before pulling into 30th street station and I refused to tell her what was going on in her panic.

I actually pick it up in Claymont, where the train arrives on an angle so fat people have a problem getting in.
 
2008-03-18 10:07:22 AM  
El Chode: FarkedOver: I am in Philly, but I am not cool in any sense of the word. I just moved here in August. North East representin!

I just moved here in August too and I'm dying to get out if I can survive the drivers.

Ludendorff's Ghost: hah. I'm on the R2 from Wilminton too. I have not seen the Asian death stare, but the chubby yapping anime chick should shut up about her personal life, because the rest of us do not want to know. That and the ham-beasts taking up all the seats. And all the brothers camped out like they live there. (Who knows, may they do).

Don't get me wrong, I stare too, but only from the safety of mirrored aviators. The asian has been staring me down ever since the day 3 weeks ago the train stalled before pulling into 30th street station and I refused to tell her what was going on in her panic.

I actually pick it up in Claymont, where the train arrives on an angle so fat people have a problem getting in.


I get on in Torresdale and ride it to Surburban. The beauty of Suburban is that you are pretty much always within 10 feet of a Dunkin Donuts. I love that.
 
2008-03-18 10:08:35 AM  
I-95 in the Philadelphia area was constructed in the mid to late 60's. Honestly, I expected more than a 40 year life span from my roads and bridges. If this is the case for our entire infrastructure (poor construction), we're farked royally. (w/cheese)
 
2008-03-18 10:10:43 AM  
FarkedOver: The beauty of Suburban is that you are pretty much always within 10 feet of a Dunkin Donuts. I love that.

I thought the beauty was the area on the way to Mellon bank by the barber shop where the homeless people play.

I agree. Part of the reason I hate my fellow commuters is that I don't get my coffee until after I get to suburban. If anyone speaks to me on the train before my coffee its instant hatred.
 
2008-03-18 10:10:49 AM  
I need to correct my previous statement. The section of the road in question was open to traffic in the 70's. Link (new window)
 
2008-03-18 10:12:31 AM  
Surly_Duff: I so don't trust the engineers of PennDOT.

Not too far from this crack, over by Bridge Street, is a large and impressive array of overpasses and cloverleaf-ish exits. Amidst this construction are three HUGE support columns like the one with the crack in it... except they don't support anything. Just three fat columns, jutting straight into the air.

I asked a friend who worked in roaconstruction about it - apparently they were put up by mistake, but it would cost more to take them down then to leave them there as an admission of a big fark-up.


If you mean by the Betsy Ross Bridge, that's because the bridge was supposed to terminate at Aramingo. Because of a property dispute, it got held up, and was routed to I-95 only. As a result, some of the structure towards Aramingo was erected, but the span was never finished.
 
2008-03-18 10:13:31 AM  
El Chode:
I actually pick it up in Claymont, where the train arrives on an angle so fat people have a problem getting in.


Lucky you. I pick it up much further up the line, when the seats are more scarce. Its an adventure every morning.
 
2008-03-18 10:13:43 AM  
El Chode: FarkedOver: The beauty of Suburban is that you are pretty much always within 10 feet of a Dunkin Donuts. I love that.

I thought the beauty was the area on the way to Mellon bank by the barber shop where the homeless people play.

I agree. Part of the reason I hate my fellow commuters is that I don't get my coffee until after I get to suburban. If anyone speaks to me on the train before my coffee its instant hatred.


You should hear the sob stories i get from the homeless everyday. Its amazing.
 
2008-03-18 10:14:00 AM  
Surly_Duff: Here is a picture of the crazy overpass thing I was talking about right near the problem spot.

Link (new window)

Those three dots near the center of the image are the columns supporting nothingness. And as an added bonus - in the lower left hand portion of the image, where the roadway creates a "v" as it merges off into a curve... well, the sections of roadway really don't match up well - there is a definite flaw in the melding of the two sections. Lovely...


Yeah, that's definitely where the Ross was supposed to continue through to Aramingo. You can see that the off-ramp north of the highway has a square section. Note that lines up with the abrupt terminus of the bridge.
 
2008-03-18 10:16:01 AM  
El Chode: FarkedOver: I am in Philly, but I am not cool in any sense of the word. I just moved here in August. North East representin!

I just moved here in August too and I'm dying to get out if I can survive the drivers.


I find the drivers around here are tame, compared to central and northern NJ.
 
2008-03-18 10:19:26 AM  
Ludendorff's Ghost: El Chode: FarkedOver: I am in Philly, but I am not cool in any sense of the word. I just moved here in August. North East representin!

I just moved here in August too and I'm dying to get out if I can survive the drivers.

I find the drivers around here are tame, compared to central and northern NJ.


The driving in philly sucks. It seems as though people want a written invitation to go after a red light turns green. They take their time here. But this is coming from someone originally from the Boston area, I'm not one to talk about driving..
 
2008-03-18 10:19:37 AM  
FarkedOver:
On the R7 I get the emo kid that talks loud to make sure everyone can hear his sensitive take on the issues of the world. I want to punch him in the mouth.


So do it. What's he going to do? Cry about it?
 
2008-03-18 10:19:54 AM  
FarkedOver:
You should hear the sob stories i get from the homeless everyday. Its amazing.


Heh. When I told the emo looking bearded white guy to enlist, he was not a happy with me.
 
2008-03-18 10:20:24 AM  
Ludendorff's Ghost: I find the drivers around here are tame, compared to central and northern NJ.

The drivers through the North Philly areas are really fun. Luckily you're only going like 20mph.

Passing people at lights, running through red lights, creating new lanes, sudden stops and turns, blocking the intersections.

Fun fun
 
2008-03-18 10:21:29 AM  
This text is now purple: FarkedOver:
On the R7 I get the emo kid that talks loud to make sure everyone can hear his sensitive take on the issues of the world. I want to punch him in the mouth.

So do it. What's he going to do? Cry about it?


And write a song about it most likely.
 
2008-03-18 10:21:36 AM  
FarkedOver: The driving in philly sucks. It seems as though people want a written invitation to go after a red light turns green. They take their time here. But this is coming from someone originally from the Boston area, I'm not one to talk about driving..

You do have to get used to that.
 
2008-03-18 10:23:21 AM  
El Chode: FarkTF is suspiciously devoid of any Philly farkers, or at least any cool ones.

I moved out into the suburbs.

Wage tax sucks.
 
2008-03-18 10:24:29 AM  
MugzyBrown: Ludendorff's Ghost: I find the drivers around here are tame, compared to central and northern NJ.

The drivers through the North Philly areas are really fun. Luckily you're only going like 20mph.

Passing people at lights, running through red lights, creating new lanes, sudden stops and turns, blocking the intersections.

Fun fun


Yes, watching people block the box in Center city is my lunch time entertainment on sunny days.
 
2008-03-18 10:29:04 AM  
Driving on Roosevelt Blvd has made me a mean violent and angry drunk man.
 
2008-03-18 10:30:53 AM  
James72: Wage tax sucks.

Manayunk to Cheltenham. Saving almost 5% on my check.
 
2008-03-18 10:31:42 AM  
Surly_Duff: Here is a picture of the crazy overpass thing I was talking about right near the problem spot.

Link (new window)

Those three dots near the center of the image are the columns supporting nothingness. And as an added bonus - in the lower left hand portion of the image, where the roadway creates a "v" as it merges off into a curve... well, the sections of roadway really don't match up well - there is a definite flaw in the melding of the two sections. Lovely...


those three pillars are supports for a fairly good sized roadway that is just sitting there unompleted. Looks like a much earlier phase of construction that must have lost its funding and was just left there. Then all those other overpasses were added later. Meh, not too surprising, voters scream 'do something about this traffic', project gets started, recession/oil-crisis/tax payer revolt happens, project gets cancelled. smaller band aid projects get done.

I remember the old Expressway in Boston had several exit ramps to nowhere. Grand ideas that never got completed? Or what I like to call, brother-in-law construction projects. "We need an exit ramp built here" "Why?" "So my brother-in-law can have work for his construction company for the next 20 years."

There was some dude in the MA gov who had 3 generations of his family on the payroll. 90 something people, 10s of millions of dollars in salary, perks, benefits, pensions. Many of them never even went to work. Just collected checks. When you keep re-electing the same people for 45-50 years, this kind of shiat happens. Every state has the same thing going on, nothing new.
 
2008-03-18 10:36:45 AM  
MugzyBrown: James72: Wage tax sucks.

Manayunk to Cheltenham. Saving almost 5% on my check.


moving to cheltenham?

my hometown!
:)
 
2008-03-18 10:38:01 AM  
surrender903: moving to cheltenham?

Moved last month
 
2008-03-18 10:51:32 AM  
I walk by This intersection almost every day to and from work. You have access to I-76/Schuykill Expressway running underneath north and south, and Chestnut Street running east/west.

Inevitably, traffic backs the fark up from people trying to get to either direction of the expressway, and the intersection becomes a total clusterfark, along with all the intersections just north around 30th street station.

They've been replacing all the lights recently, and I think they're reprogramming the light sequencing too. I just hope people finally learn not to pull into the damn intersection unless they're gonna clear it, no matter how much the asshole behind you is riding your ass to keep going (and inevitably get stuck himself)
 
2008-03-18 10:54:12 AM  
Ludendorff's Ghost: I find the drivers around here are tame, compared to central and northern NJ.

That's the problem: Tame. Nice and slow and overly cautious to a fault.
 
2008-03-18 10:55:15 AM  
MugzyBrown:
Passing people at lights, running through red lights, creating new lanes, sudden stops and turns, blocking the intersections.


in south philly i routinely find that passing on the sidewalk is a normal maneuver
 
2008-03-18 10:59:50 AM  
I get this intersection every day

Link

Blue Route Exit and 76 exit come together at the Fayette St bridge.

You have about 100 ft of merge space to get across 3 lanes of traffic if you want to turn at that light.
 
2008-03-18 10:59:52 AM  
El Chode: That's the problem: Tame. Nice and slow and overly cautious to a fault.

I need to check out your side, I've had no experience with that style. My biggest problem is that nobody can merge.

Every day with slow moving traffic, someone comes to a complete stop on Univ Ave -> 76 onramp, or South St -> 76 onramp and kills traffic
 
2008-03-18 11:08:42 AM  
mad8vskillz: in south philly i routinely find that passing on the sidewalk is a normal maneuver

That's one of the reasons I wanna get my bike runnin' again. Whenever some jackass double parks in a 1 lane street, you can just drive up on the sidewalk thanks to those handicapped ramps available now on every corner for handicapped people.
 
2008-03-18 11:10:54 AM  
El Chode: Ludendorff's Ghost: I find the drivers around here are tame, compared to central and northern NJ.

That's the problem: Tame. Nice and slow and overly cautious to a fault.


So very THIS. After seeing the driving here in the North East I can understand why people drink and drive.
 
2008-03-18 11:17:04 AM  
Pope Schizoid XIV: IdBeCrazyIf: I demand Om nom nom nom pics stat



Here ya' go.


Much better... the beer is in the mail
 
2008-03-18 11:21:35 AM  
Wow, two Cheltenham farkers. I hail from jenkintown when I'm not at school. Are there any cool bars in Cheltenham outside of Keswick?
 
2008-03-18 11:22:15 AM  
MugzyBrown: I get this intersection every day

Link

Blue Route Exit and 76 exit come together at the Fayette St bridge.

You have about 100 ft of merge space to get across 3 lanes of traffic if you want to turn at that light.



If you're coming off 76 and making a left, you're better off going a little further and getting off a Gulph Mills and taking 320 north to rt. 23.
 
2008-03-18 11:39:58 AM  
Snes: Wow, two Cheltenham farkers.

And I'm in Fox Chase.

END OF THE LINE!
 
2008-03-18 11:48:18 AM  
The crack has character. Much like the Liberty Bell.

I wonder how long that giant gaping crack has been there, just biding its time? Good thing they upped inspections since the Minnesota thing.


El Chode: That's the problem: Tame. Nice and slow and overly cautious to a fault.

This.

The big difference is that in the NE Philly/suburban areas people hesitate. It's the ability to make a snap decision and follow through with it that makes an agile driver - sometimes in ne philly people just STOP, unsure of what their next move should be.

/their next move should be ANYWHERE JUST FARKING MOVE
//Bensalem here
///I, too, think the wage tax is teh ghey, so I stayed out of city limits
 
2008-03-18 11:51:42 AM  
Ruca: The crack has character. Much like the Liberty Bell.

I wonder how long that giant gaping crack has been there, just biding its time? Good thing they upped inspections since the Minnesota thing.


El Chode: That's the problem: Tame. Nice and slow and overly cautious to a fault.

This.

The big difference is that in the NE Philly/suburban areas people hesitate. It's the ability to make a snap decision and follow through with it that makes an agile driver - sometimes in ne philly people just STOP, unsure of what their next move should be.

/their next move should be ANYWHERE JUST FARKING MOVE
//Bensalem here
///I, too, think the wage tax is teh ghey, so I stayed out of city limits


Live right off the boulevard. I have seen people just stop because they missed a crossover and they are not sure what to do. It is mind-numbingly painful to watch these people drive and be caught behind them.

/stones throw from Bensalem
 
2008-03-18 11:52:31 AM  
Half the city is on crack, why not the bridges too
 
2008-03-18 11:57:49 AM  
FarkedOver: Live right off the boulevard.

So you, too, have seen drivers on the boulevard drive on the wrong side of the road?

/recently witnessed a driver CONTINUE on the WRONG SIDE of the road instead of immediately turning around, presumably to get to the next crossover.
//Cracks in the bridge columns, crack heads on the roads
 
2008-03-18 12:00:08 PM  
Ruca: FarkedOver: Live right off the boulevard.

So you, too, have seen drivers on the boulevard drive on the wrong side of the road?

/recently witnessed a driver CONTINUE on the WRONG SIDE of the road instead of immediately turning around, presumably to get to the next crossover.
//Cracks in the bridge columns, crack heads on the roads


Yeah its amazing more people aren't killed on a daily basis. I mean it was just last summer some asshat killed a couple of teenagers because he drove the wrong way. I see cars that go the wrong way eventually just drive right up on the grass inbetween the 2 lanes. Its a riot. I could sit at the side of the road all day and be entertained. NASCAR has nothing on Roosevelt Blvd.
 
2008-03-18 12:00:24 PM  
James72: I moved out into the suburbs.

Wage tax sucks.


Ditto, though I went northeast as opposed to your westbound route.

When we were looking for our house, the real estate agent brought up the 1% board of education income tax in the town very delicately. When we finally got through our heads the info she was trying so subtly to impart, we were practically cheering. She was so confused, so we explained - it was like getting a 3.25% raise!
 
2008-03-18 12:18:39 PM  
Ruca: Bensalem here, too! (is there anything fun to do around here? Pretty new to the area...)

I have to drive to Delaware for the holiday weekend. Really hope they fix this by then or the traffic is going to suck worse than usual.
 
2008-03-18 12:27:28 PM  
Ruca: FarkedOver: Live right off the boulevard.

So you, too, have seen drivers on the boulevard drive on the wrong side of the road?

/recently witnessed a driver CONTINUE on the WRONG SIDE of the road instead of immediately turning around, presumably to get to the next crossover.
//Cracks in the bridge columns, crack heads on the roads


I haven't ever seen that, but I've seen people stop in the fast lane of the outside sections and try to make a left turn across the entire road at a green light.
 
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