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2008-03-17 09:36:32 AM  
The nuts guy was still a marketing genius.
 
2008-03-17 10:54:48 AM  
I guess that lead actor who plays the guy who scowls all the time got tired of scowling all the time.
 
2008-03-17 11:30:13 AM  
It's a bit of a shame as the season started off weak and had been getting progressively better.
 
2008-03-17 11:49:13 AM  
stpauler: It's a bit of a shame as the season started off weak and had been getting progressively better.

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"These people are so far above the law, you can't hope to bribe them with nuts and email."
 
2008-03-17 12:13:27 PM  
We will know by what ending CBS shows. They will keep quiet and maybe spike ratings.
 
2008-03-17 12:27:34 PM  
That's fine... CBS (after the fans retaliated) gave them time to end it properly, which is more than 99% of today's cancelled shows get.
 
2008-03-17 12:28:35 PM  
I never expected Jericho to get renewed again. We did a great job getting it back on the air (yes, me too), but it just didn't get the ratings.

I loved most of the first season of Jericho, but there was never anywhere to go that didn't totally change the series. Look at season 2: we've got some good storylines and major conflict, but it's just not the same show. "Small town surviving after nuclear devastation" has become "the next American Revolution".

I still watch it. I still love it. I will miss it. I'm just not surprised.
 
2008-03-17 12:30:20 PM  
No one watched it the first time

It got canceled

Uproar from "fans"

Show is brought back

"Fans" don't watch it again

It got canceled

/profit?
 
2008-03-17 12:32:16 PM  
It should have been aliens, not J & R.
 
2008-03-17 12:33:40 PM  
And, let's be honest: this was not a huge risk on the part of CBS. The writers were on strike. Everyone was scrambling to find something already scripted to fill the time. They had Jericho.

And I'm sure CBS was happy. They had a scripted show with an apparently excited fan base. However...

Even in a time of reruns and crappy reality/game shows, Jericho couldn't pull the ratings. That means limited commercial $$$. What do you expect CBS to do?
 
2008-03-17 12:35:22 PM  
A last minute spike won't be enough to save it. I've been failthfully watching the show since it came back, and apparently, the same cannot be said for other so-called fans.

I would like to point out that this series would have gotten a fair shake if the network hadn't pulled that extended mid-season hiatus crap last year. It's one thing to do that when you've got a top rated series with a couple strong years behind it, but to pull this crap with a new series is flat out stupid and unfair. They actually had to rush together a clip episode when the second half of the first season launched to catch people back up. That should never be necessary. All the networks do it, and it's idiotic. Don't buy a series if you're just going to kill it out of idiocy.

It should be noted that the first 12 episodes of Jericho were very well received and had good ratings. It wasn't until the mid-season hiatus that the ratings started to suffer.
 
2008-03-17 12:38:15 PM  
Good, that show sucks syphillitic donkey rectum. The only reason to keep it on the air is the possibility that they will air something even worse.
 
2008-03-17 12:39:15 PM  
Boritom: A last minute spike won't be enough to save it. I've been failthfully watching the show since it came back, and apparently, the same cannot be said for other so-called fans.

I would like to point out that this series would have gotten a fair shake if the network hadn't pulled that extended mid-season hiatus crap last year. It's one thing to do that when you've got a top rated series with a couple strong years behind it, but to pull this crap with a new series is flat out stupid and unfair. They actually had to rush together a clip episode when the second half of the first season launched to catch people back up. That should never be necessary. All the networks do it, and it's idiotic. Don't buy a series if you're just going to kill it out of idiocy.

It should be noted that the first 12 episodes of Jericho were very well received and had good ratings. It wasn't until the mid-season hiatus that the ratings started to suffer.


I don't think that was the whole problem, Boritom. I think it was the fact that the series began to focus on the war with New Bern. So many other potential subplots got pushed to the side. Maybe the shift was planned from the beginning, and maybe they didn't have anywhere else to go. But it changed the entire tone of the show.
 
2008-03-17 12:40:39 PM  
Here's the bottom line, someone in CBS wanted to dump the series last year. The fans came out in force and someone a bit higher up decided to overide that decision. However, the very person who wanted to cancel it was still in sufficient charge of network programming to "demand" certain changes, to lower the budget and to pick the time slot. As such, now that person can claim "see, I told you so" even though they basically sabotaged the entire thing.

This is why I despise most network programming directors.

I can go back years and years and point out time after time this basic scenario has played out. In the mid/late 70's, CBS decided to serialize the movie Paper Chase (about a law student). It ran for a single season on CBS and the network geniuses decided that it wasn't getting high enough ratings and the demographics they wanted, after moving it to the network graveyard of Friday night. (They were on a "youth" movement at the time.) So, they cancelled the series and replaced it with "California Fever" starring Jimmy McNichol which if I recall correctly went about 3-4 episodes before being cancelled with ratings about 1/3 the size of the Paper Chase.

Paper Chase ended up being picked up by PBS of all people, then finally it was given a slot on cable upstart Showtime. I think it ended up running for a total of about 5 seasons between its various incarnations.
 
2008-03-17 12:41:13 PM  
Derwood: No one watched it the first time

It got canceled

Uproar from "fans"

Show is brought back

"Fans" don't watch it again

It got canceled

/profit?


Won't someone think of the TiVo/DVR watchers?!!

/only way I can watch Pushing Daisies
//that show's coming back
///neener
 
2008-03-17 12:43:10 PM  
To be fair, they were living on borrowed time. Most shows would END when something gets nuked ;)
 
2008-03-17 12:43:17 PM  
I disapprove
 
2008-03-17 12:47:02 PM  
This season really is American Revolution style.

It does not seem to really mesh with the current atmosphere, as there are aspects of liberal issues such as fear of the military industrial complex that is both corrupt and unaccountable (J&R in Jericho, Halliburton and Blackwater in RL). But then we have people defending themselves to the death. Spoils: The farm girl took out three mercenaries with a rifle before being killed herself. Then, her brother executes the man who killed her, illustrating that guns are a powerful tool that must be used with restraint. Are there really whole towns in America with that kind of liberal, pro-2nd amendment attitude?
 
2008-03-17 12:50:06 PM  
Derwood: No one watched it the first time

It got canceled

Uproar from "fans"

Show is brought back

"Fans" don't watch it again

It got canceled

/profit?


WIN
 
2008-03-17 12:51:37 PM  
I am a Jericho fan and am fine with it not being renewed as long as they wrap it up. The only reason I had a big issue with last year is that the finale was a big cliff hanger.

I don't think shows need to overstay their welcome. It's okay to have a show that runs its course in 20-30 episodes.
 
2008-03-17 12:52:00 PM  
evilgreg: I don't think that was the whole problem, Boritom. I think it was the fact that the series began to focus on the war with New Bern. So many other potential subplots got pushed to the side. Maybe the shift was planned from the beginning, and maybe they didn't have anywhere else to go. But it changed the entire tone of the show.

You have a valid point. I think the big issue, though, was that, with only a 7 episode renewal, the producers anticipated that this would be the end, and instead of working harder to expand on the existing storylines, they pulled a "Serenity," and tried to cull the best aspects of how they wanted the series to eventually end a few years down the road into these seven episodes.

That's one of the reasons why I found Serenity lacking as a film adaptation of Firefly. Instead of trying to tell a bigger story within the Firefly series, Joss Whedon tried to wrap everything up. It's still a good film in its own right, but it lost a lot of the atmosphere Firefly had going for it as a series.

It could have been worse though. Trek fans largely recall the original series' third year (the one that only existed because of a similar fan-led campaign to reverse cancellation) as the year Roddenberry gave up. About 80% of that season was pure, irritating crap. I can count on one hand the number of decent third-season Star Trek episodes. At least Jericho hasn't sunk to the level of literally phoning it in.
 
2008-03-17 12:52:50 PM  
"Will a Kansas town of nuclear war survivors successfully fight off a lawless invading militia? And will a network that dares to renew "Jericho" despite its below-the-line ratings be rewarded for having faith in the show?"

There isn't another thing on the face of this planet I could care less about.

/TV sucks
 
2008-03-17 12:53:39 PM  
A last minute spike won't be enough to save it. I've been failthfully watching the show since it came back, and apparently, the same cannot be said for other so-called fans.

How much worse are the ratings this year than last? I mean, when you move a show to the 10 PM timeslot, it is going to lose a pct of its viewers who watch it at time of telecast.

It isn't like Jericho was a ratings juggurnaut last season obviously. There weren't that many fans to begin with. They just were able to yell really loud, which I am glad for because I wanted a conclusion to the show.
 
2008-03-17 12:55:41 PM  
They're cancelling Nuts also? That sucks.
 
2008-03-17 12:56:23 PM  
srhp29: I am a Jericho fan and am fine with it not being renewed as long as they wrap it up. The only reason I had a big issue with last year is that the finale was a big cliff hanger.

I don't think shows need to overstay their welcome. It's okay to have a show that runs its course in 20-30 episodes.


20-30 may be a small number, but I kinda like these limited series. Lost is a good one (it's getting stretched a little much, but it has a definite ending). BSG is the best. I LOVE that show, and I REALLY hope they wrap it up in about 20 more episodes.

I wish 4400 would have had the chance to wrap up neatly. It's another one that only had a year or so left on it.
 
2008-03-17 12:57:43 PM  
So who did it. Who nuked everyone?
 
2008-03-17 12:59:01 PM  
Never really watched the show religeously, but I just hope they don't replace it with another reality TV show. That market is saturated.

Lets face it though, as soon as the weather gets nicer, I won't be watching TV at all*. I'd rather get drunk and play softball.

*Except for Gossip Girl. The blonde is gorgeous, and the show is addicting as hell.

/No, I haven't caught teh ghey
//Why do you ask?
 
2008-03-17 01:05:55 PM  
reilmb: So who did it. Who nuked everyone?


Lex Luthor
 
2008-03-17 01:11:07 PM  
reilmb: So who did it. Who nuked everyone?

Halliburton
 
2008-03-17 01:11:09 PM  
Isn't it running against that horrible fox show?
 
2008-03-17 01:14:32 PM  
Already Disturbed: Isn't it running against that horrible fox show?

You might want to be more specific.
 
2008-03-17 01:16:38 PM  
Does this mean FOX will bring back Drive for a few more episodes now too?

//loved it.
 
2008-03-17 01:25:41 PM  
Boritom: reilmb: So who did it. Who nuked everyone?

Halliburton


Sort of. The bad guys are a thinly disguised group called "Blackwater". It ain't complicated.

/my second Miller's Crossing reference today.
 
2008-03-17 01:29:41 PM  
Isn't it running against that horrible fox show?

No, FOX primetime ends an hour earlier than the other networks. Jericho is on in the 10 O'clock/9 Central slot.

I do believe it did land up against Idol last year perhaps? I can't remember if Jericho was on at 8 or 9 last year, but it was on Wednesday I believe and that would have had it on the same night as Idol, which really helped after their long hiatus, lose viewers/ratings.
 
2008-03-17 01:32:35 PM  
Crewmannumber6: Sort of. The bad guys are a thinly disguised group called "Blackwater". It ain't complicated.

Nope, Jennings & Rall = Halliburton, Ravenwood = Blackwater. Pretty farking transparent.
 
2008-03-17 01:34:10 PM  
Crewmannumber6: Boritom: reilmb: So who did it. Who nuked everyone?

Halliburton

Sort of. The bad guys are a thinly disguised group called "Blackwater". It ain't complicated.

/my second Miller's Crossing reference today.


Ravenwood. The Jericho mercs are called Ravenwood. Also: the 5th episode of the new season pretty much explains who did the nukes.
 
2008-03-17 01:34:39 PM  
As long as they tie up loose ends and don't leave a huge cliffhanger I will be somewhat happy.
 
2008-03-17 01:49:26 PM  
I really like the show. I watched the first couple of episodes the first go round and liked it. I was happy to see them bring it back. It is in a crappy time slot, so that could be one reason ratings are down. It could also be that it is a little too close to what is happening now (with no nukes yet) They have to at least end it right if they are going to cancel it. I hate stories that just end
 
2008-03-17 01:56:08 PM  
z.about.com

Black Jauer: I'm going to miss the rolling hills of Kansas.
TTM: But isn't Kansas flat?
Black Jauer: *BANG*
 
2008-03-17 01:58:33 PM  
The_Time_Master

I could vote for this guy to replace Sutherland as the hero on "24" or even as perhaps a nemisis for Bauer in a future season.

He can NOT use his normal speaking voice though as he doesn't sound nearly as tough when he speaks with his real voice and British accent.
 
2008-03-17 02:02:11 PM  
The sad truth is, they haven't even given it a chance to succeed. They buried it at 10 PM on a Tuesday and refuse to count Tivo/DVR viewings in their ratings. Not to mention the outright inaccuracy of the Nielson ratings everyone bases this stuff on. Hopefully Sci Fi picks it up.
 
2008-03-17 02:03:08 PM  
I campaigned to bring this show back, was thrilled they brought it back... but... I have to wake up at 5am to get ready for work, and 10pm start times on any show mean I don't watch them.

I watched the first episode of season 2, enjoyed it, and... haven't watched since. I'll catch the episodes online, but... CBS shot the show down by their time slot.... and waiting so long.
 
2008-03-17 02:05:22 PM  
Boo Hoo hoo, I love Jericho, The Tues nite 10pm time slot does not help renewal CBS, I suppose thats a reason why its one of the most DVR'ed shows - at any rate - best show since BSG. At least it will be wrapped up with a conclusive ending, or may be Sci Fi can pick it up. Jericho would do well there.
 
2008-03-17 02:09:21 PM  
jonny_q: BSG is the best. I LOVE that show, and I REALLY hope they wrap it up in about 20 more episodes.

Season 4 (starts April 4th! Yeah!) will be the last season. They have it all planned out to the end.
 
2008-03-17 02:09:32 PM  
Meanwhile, that meandering "we wrote ourselves into a corner" piece of shiat suck-fest soap opera for OCD sufferers Lost gets 7 farking seasons. "Ooh, each tree on the island is gonna gets it's own back story!" Barf.
 
2008-03-17 02:10:38 PM  
I like this show, and the black guy cracks me the hell up. Loved the last episode where the Jennings and Rahl guys show up at his house acting all intimidating. You could just see the thought bubble above his head "Do you muthafarkers know who I am, what I can, no, no, wait, what I will do to you? I didn't think so!" Necksnap!

Although I am curious where the show would go after this story arc. Either Cheyenne wins, and wipes Jericho off the face of the map in retaliation or everyone falls in line and says "Meh, different boss, same shiat". Or The East wins, and everything is back to normal? And really, who didn't think to maybe keep an eye on Stanley when HE DRIVES UP OUT OF NOWHERE? Hmm, might he want to kill Goetz? "Dunno, nuts! He did."
 
2008-03-17 02:12:17 PM  
Fish in a Barrel: jonny_q: BSG is the best. I LOVE that show, and I REALLY hope they wrap it up in about 20 more episodes.

Season 4 (starts April 4th! Yeah!) will be the last season. They have it all planned out to the end.


I remember hearing that crap about splitting the 4th season into two seasons - half the episodes this year, half next, etc. Did they finally change their minds?
 
2008-03-17 02:15:57 PM  
They should keep it on, everyone I know watches it but they Tivo it because they all work in the mornings and don't stay up until 10. I hope they give it one more season in a proper time slot to get a better audience.
 
2008-03-17 02:17:48 PM  
Bag of Hammers
100% agree, Lost lost me with its twisty plotless crap. Jericho rocks. The transparency between Jennings & Rall = Halliburton, Ravenwood = Blackwater was pretty ballzy.
 
2008-03-17 02:35:27 PM  
guy_smiley: I campaigned to bring this show back, was thrilled they brought it back... but... I have to wake up at 5am to get ready for work, and 10pm start times on any show mean I don't watch them.

I watched the first episode of season 2, enjoyed it, and... haven't watched since. I'll catch the episodes online, but... CBS shot the show down by their time slot.... and waiting so long.


I read this post in William Shatner's voice.

/lulz
 
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