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(Salon)   Harlan Ellison gives interview to Salon.com, criticizes WGA, sues submitter   (dir.salon.com ) divider line
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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2008-03-15 12:33:34 PM  
Such oft-reprinted Ellison stories and novellas as "'Repent, Harlequin!' Said the Ticktockman," "I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream" and "A Boy and His Dog" have been prodigiously influential

I will never understand "Repent." I loved the ending of "A Boy and His Dog."
 
2008-03-15 12:56:54 PM  
That was infinitely better than my crappy headline!
 
2008-03-15 01:07:03 PM  
"I'm an elitist because I think there are too many stupid people in the world. But one must not pity them; one must take an AK-47 and kill them. You just need to kill as many stupid people as you can find. Go out in the streets and ask them if they have ever heard of Guy de Maupassant. No? Bam, you're dead. Have you ever heard of Bessie Smith? No? Bam, you're dead."

Jeez, I don't consider myself stupid by any means, but I think I might be at risk with this name-recognition policy of death.
 
2008-03-15 01:34:34 PM  
Reverend Otis: "I'm an elitist because I think there are too many stupid people in the world. But one must not pity them; one must take an AK-47 and kill them. You just need to kill as many stupid people as you can find. Go out in the streets and ask them if they have ever heard of Guy de Maupassant. No? Bam, you're dead. Have you ever heard of Bessie Smith? No? Bam, you're dead."

Jeez, I don't consider myself stupid by any means, but I think I might be at risk with this name-recognition policy of death.



Well read = only measure of intelligence that matters.


I wonder if he could give a proof of Ptolemy's theorem.

And then of course we end up with this:
i17.photobucket.com
/obligatory.
 
zz9
2008-03-15 01:50:09 PM  
Met him a few months ago. He was quite friendly.

/But then I had given him free pizza.
 
2008-03-15 02:06:32 PM  
zz9: Met him a few months ago. He was quite friendly.

He's probably looking for someone to give the stopwatch to.
 
2008-03-15 02:38:03 PM  
Ok, he's a good writer, but sometimes I think Ellison is just the writers' variant of the crazy uncle that only gets invited to Thanksgiving to see what insane stuff he'll try to pull.
 
2008-03-15 02:47:26 PM  
BUrp 2008-03-15 02:38:03 PM
Ok, he's a good writer, but sometimes I think Ellison is just the writers' variant of the crazy uncle that only gets invited to Thanksgiving to see what insane stuff he'll try to pull.


This.

I give Mr. Ellison his props for the great writing and interesting interviews he's done over the years but his schtick of being first, an angry young man and now and angry OLD man is just boring.

Harlen? We get it: you hate people that don't meet YOUR 'standards'.
Guess what?
No one cares.
 
2008-03-15 02:51:17 PM  
Harlen? We get it: you hate people that don't meet YOUR 'standards'.
Guess what?
No one cares.


Neither does he
 
2008-03-15 03:10:30 PM  
Cute interview, really.
 
2008-03-15 03:21:24 PM  
FTFA:"I don't want to read your farking story."

awesome, would you autograph it that way please?
 
2008-03-15 03:37:48 PM  
It's a shame that his pissy attitude and generally litigious nature are what he's mostly known for today, and not his bloated pretentious writing career as an author.
 
2008-03-15 03:45:04 PM  
Ask him why he made Scotty a drug dealer in his Star Trek script. be sure to have a chickenwire mesh screen between the two of you when you do, but it will be fun.
 
2008-03-15 03:46:53 PM  
Reverend Otis: "I'm an elitist because I think there are too many stupid people in the world. But one must not pity them; one must take an AK-47 and kill them. You just need to kill as many stupid people as you can find. Go out in the streets and ask them if they have ever heard of Guy de Maupassant. No? Bam, you're dead. Have you ever heard of Bessie Smith? No? Bam, you're dead."

Jeez, I don't consider myself stupid by any means, but I think I might be at risk with this name-recognition policy of death.


So..... who's brave enough to call DHS on Harlan for his 'terrist' views?

/think of a high schooler saying this in English class
 
2008-03-15 04:02:46 PM  
Harlan Ellison is so cranky he yells at kids to stay off his lawn, then yells at the lawn for an hour.
 
2008-03-15 07:49:27 PM  
Any Pie Left: Ask him why he made Scotty a drug dealer in his Star Trek script. be sure to have a chickenwire mesh screen between the two of you when you do, but it will be fun.

I was going to ask about this. Has the original script been published? Where can I read it?
 
2008-03-15 07:51:55 PM  
BUrp: Ok, he's a good writer, but sometimes I think Ellison is just the writers' variant of the crazy uncle that only gets invited to Thanksgiving to see what insane stuff he'll try to pull.
As a crazy uncle I can say that the only reason "crazy stuff" gets pulled is because the rest of you are crushing bores
 
2008-03-15 09:10:03 PM  
This isn't really news though. I mean, not like that time that an interview in which he complains about not getting paid for an interview got posted on YouTube. That was ironic enough to make it news worthy.
 
2008-03-15 09:36:14 PM  
crazywisdom_uk 2008-03-15 02:51:17 PM
Harlen? We get it: you hate people that don't meet YOUR 'standards'.
Guess what?
No one cares.

Neither does he


Actually, you're wrong. Harlin cares and cares a great deal. I made my post before reading the article, but after doing that and listening to a large chunk of the audio I stand by my comments.

Ellison is a vile, disturbed person at his core and trying to pass it off as being a curmudgeon is feint. His comments about killing people that dont meet his standards proves it.

He has made these comments for years and because he has it is easy to see that he feels this way.

He has a vested interest in appearing 'outrageous' - thats his routine, his schtick, as I said - but now he sounds pathetic.
 
2008-03-15 10:04:07 PM  
Purity Of Essence: Any Pie Left: Ask him why he made Scotty a drug dealer in his Star Trek script. be sure to have a chickenwire mesh screen between the two of you when you do, but it will be fun.

I was going to ask about this. Has the original script been published? Where can I read it?


Tough to find. I've got a copy in an old, out of print book called "Six Science Fiction Plays" edited by Roger Elwood (Washington Square Books, Pocket Books imprint) 1976. No ISBN number I can find. Scotty was not a drug dealer; in fact, except for Kirk and Spock (and Rand for a couple of lines), NONE of the original crew members are even in the script, which is incredibly different from what finally aired.

Good luck finding a copy. I've had mine since 1976 and it's literally falling to pieces, the pages are disintegrating and it's got light damage to the covers. No, I won't risk copyright infringement or Ellison's wrath by sending anyone a copy.
 
2008-03-16 12:07:40 AM  
Ah yes, Harlan Ellison. The original Internet Tough Guy since before the Internet even existed. I suppose that's an achievement of sorts.
 
2008-03-16 12:11:44 AM  
Let me talk to the Head Jew.

Ah, Harlan, sometimes no one gets you.
 
2008-03-16 06:08:25 AM  
Thanks for the lead, Gyrfalcon.
 
2008-03-16 10:39:55 AM  
Purity of Essence, Gyrfalcon

A more recent printing was done in 1997 of the script by White Wolf called The City on the Edge of Forever. Even better it's got some essays by Ellison, some stars of TOS, and others connected to the episode explaining the backstory.
 
2008-03-16 09:24:03 PM  
Excellent info. Thanks, Shtarker.
 
2008-03-17 11:30:38 AM  
Ellison can fark off.

SF made him famous. Once famous, he dissed SF and everything associated with it.

He can suck my left testicle.
 
2008-03-18 12:48:36 AM  
In other news, Harlan Ellison is still alive.

I seriously thought he died a while ago.
 
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