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(CNN)   Clemson to RB Ray Ray McElrathbey, who adopted his little brother to save him from their crackhead mom and gambling dad : GTFO   (sportsillustrated.cnn.com) divider line 38
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2008-03-12 06:11:53 PM
Sad, yes, but the scholarship isn't for "McElrathbey and brother". It's just for the student... and if their terms say they can yank it away, then anyone who's not a star player will lose out.

Hopefully some other school steps up and gives him a full ride for his next two years. At least he can finish school and move on to a good career.
 
2008-03-12 06:48:38 PM
tukatz: Hopefully some other school steps up and gives him a full ride for his next two years. At least he can finish school and move on to a good career.

That, or hopefully some philanthropist offers to pay his tuition and living expenses for him wile he's in school.

Poor guy.
 
2008-03-12 06:55:07 PM
That is so farked up.

Clemson dosen't put out morons... I wouldn't be surprized to see a booster set him and his brother up, or at least a group of boosters (who have things like, hearts, and souls, and feelings) who could pool together enough money to support this guy while he gets some sort of plan together.
 
2008-03-12 06:59:26 PM
What do you expect from a Bowden?
 
2008-03-12 06:59:43 PM
Third Day Mark: Clemson dosen't put out morons... I wouldn't be surprized to see a booster set him and his brother up, or at least a group of boosters (who have things like, hearts, and souls, and feelings) who could pool together enough money to support this guy while he gets some sort of plan together.

That sounds like the right outcome here. If he's being offered a graduate assistantship, it sounds like he's a good enough student to graduate; if he's a 4th string senior it also sounds like losing his NCAA eligibility wouldn't be the worst outcome for him. This young man needs money, not football, at this point in his life.
 
2008-03-12 07:01:34 PM
On the other hand, 85? Did I read that right? NCAA Division One schools have eighty-farking-five full-ride football scholarships? A) that's too many. B) It wouldn't kill Clemson to throw one to the guy. What, the 84th guy is the one who's gonna put them over the top in the BCS this year?
 
2008-03-12 07:13:05 PM
Manfred J. Hattan: Third Day Mark: Clemson dosen't put out morons... I wouldn't be surprized to see a booster set him and his brother up, or at least a group of boosters (who have things like, hearts, and souls, and feelings) who could pool together enough money to support this guy while he gets some sort of plan together.

That sounds like the right outcome here. If he's being offered a graduate assistantship, it sounds like he's a good enough student to graduate; if he's a 4th string senior it also sounds like losing his NCAA eligibility wouldn't be the worst outcome for him. This young man needs money, not football, at this point in his life.


Yeah. All I can think about is that commercial that says "There are 30,000 (Or is it 300k?) student-athletes in the NCAA and only *blah blah blah* of them will go on to professional sports."

Paraphrasing of course.
 
2008-03-12 07:19:28 PM
Manfred J. Hattan: On the other hand, 85? Did I read that right? NCAA Division One schools have eighty-farking-five full-ride football scholarships? A) that's too many. B) It wouldn't kill Clemson to throw one to the guy. What, the 84th guy is the one who's gonna put them over the top in the BCS this year?

It used to be more than that.
 
2008-03-12 07:21:47 PM
College football is a business to generate cash and win games. If he is deep on the depth chart and not likely contributing, then the team has no obligation to maintain his status regardless of his special circumstances. It sounds cold and it is cold, but coaches are not there to provide feel good stories but to win games or else they (and their staff) may find themselves without jobs. You need all 85 scholarships to go to players who can play, he hasn't played or shown potential to play in his time at Clemson so his spot should go to someone who may help the team.

College football is not a charity. If you want to help out this individual and his struggles, contribute to the trust fund, send him money directly, or offer him other support. However a major college football team cannot function in that capacity without compromising their program. This isn't a popular decision, but for Clemson and their football program, it is probably the correct course of action if their goal is to field the most competitive team they can.
 
2008-03-12 07:22:17 PM
Manfred J. Hattan: On the other hand, 85? Did I read that right? NCAA Division One schools have eighty-farking-five full-ride football scholarships? A) that's too many. B) It wouldn't kill Clemson to throw one to the guy. What, the 84th guy is the one who's gonna put them over the top in the BCS this year?

Even worse. They're allowed to split the scholarships. Could've moved two other guys to half scholarships if they'd wanted to - or offered two of their new recruits half rides their first year and full rides on out... any number of possibilities.
 
2008-03-12 07:25:37 PM
Guarantee you somebody from the Clemson area and/or a Clemson Alumni will help him out. The Clemson community isn't even in the same arena of douchebaggery as what Bowden did.

/Class of '07
//Misses Clemson like crazy
 
2008-03-12 07:29:03 PM
Daedalus27: but coaches are not there to provide feel good stories

Let me offer up a hypothetical for you, can you imagine Joe Pa at Penn State doing the same thing? Yeah, me either. Principles do count for something.
 
2008-03-12 07:29:25 PM
Never did like the Bowdens - any of them. This pretty much sums it all up. They are dick-heads. They might be folksy like the chicken -lawyer from Futurama, but they are still douches.
 
2008-03-12 07:35:10 PM
Tony Barnhardt reports in the AJC that there are other issues involved with this - Ray Ray's injury being one, his frequent disagreements with the coaches and also missing practices/other team functions being another, and the fact that he has already graduated being yet another. He was offered a postition as a Graduate assistant, told he would be able to get financial aid (most likely in the way of being paid for his contributions as a grad assistant and scholarhips from my understanding,) and apparently didn't take the deal.

Ray Ray mighta had a career in coaching if he did that, and at the least, a Master's degree from Clemson. My brother-in-law does pretty well with his MBA from Clemson, but he does have to live in Phoenix. So there's always that.
 
2008-03-12 07:41:57 PM
ronmexico27: Tony Barnhardt reports in the AJC that there are other issues involved with this - Ray Ray's injury being one, his frequent disagreements with the coaches and also missing practices/other team functions being another, and the fact that he has already graduated being yet another.

I was just reading that article and I was going to mention this, but you beat me to it. Damn you!
 
2008-03-12 07:42:54 PM
Life sucks. Wear a f*cking helmet. Well...not so much you, Ray Ray.
 
2008-03-12 07:56:43 PM
and the fact that he has already graduated being yet another.

If he has already graduated, then move on. You have a good education, right? Time to get a job. If the college you were at didn't want you anymore, then you were not going pro anyway.

Let's hope he didn't get a sociology degree and was smart enough to get one in something worth a damn after football.
 
2008-03-12 08:32:38 PM
Not all big schools a heartless.My nephew was a pitcher at a Top 10 Div. 1 school.He had elbow problems, but they still honored his scholorship and let him finish his last year and a half.
 
2008-03-12 08:39:42 PM
How about Clemson to Tommy Bowden: GTFO.
 
2008-03-12 09:30:26 PM
ronmexico27: Tony Barnhardt reports in the AJC that there are other issues involved with this - Ray Ray's injury being one, his frequent disagreements with the coaches and also missing practices/other team functions being another, and the fact that he has already graduated being yet another. He was offered a postition as a Graduate assistant, told he would be able to get financial aid (most likely in the way of being paid for his contributions as a grad assistant and scholarhips from my understanding,) and apparently didn't take the deal.

Hes already graduated? WTF, hes a below average back, has his degree, was even offered a position as an graduate assistant? Sounds like hes the dick in the scenario and was offered every chance to stay in some capacity.

/hate him but bowden isnt the douche here
 
2008-03-12 09:45:51 PM
steamingpile: Hes already graduated?

Would you prefer him take ball-room dancing?
 
2008-03-12 09:55:25 PM
droptone: Would you prefer him take ball-room dancing?

If he needed it for graduating why not? Its an elective dumb ass, if thats all you needed to finish why not take the easiest?

If hes graduated and was offered a chance to stay then declined the guy has no argument, if he was booted out without a degree then he may have had a biatch, as it stands take your degree and get a job if you dont want their deal.
 
2008-03-12 10:00:39 PM
From Clemson's site..

"Sixth on the team in special teams tackles...played as a defensive back for the first 11 games, but moved to wide receiver for the two weeks leading up to the South Carolina game...moved to running back for the bowl game."

Sounds to me like they tried to make a place somewhere for the guy as best they could, perhaps he is just mediocre at best..

Now take your sociology degree Ray Ray and make me another Espresso Macchiato..
 
2008-03-12 10:28:11 PM
Daedalus27: College football is not a charity. If you want to help out this individual and his struggles, contribute to the trust fund, send him money directly, or offer him other support. However a major college football team cannot function in that capacity without compromising their program.

Ooohhhh, Daedaalus27. You are such a hard nosed businessman. I hope that serves you well in hell. This player has made a positive contribution to the program just by showing the other players what it means to be a man. You probably don't understand that yourself. As someone else said, the player getting the #85 scholarship is hardly going to be the guy that takes them to the BCS Championship. The school itself had an opportunity to milk this for some positive PR, and they blew it. Of course, it's a Bowden so that's par for the course.

Here's hoping a different school offers him a full ride, and he sticks it in Clemson's face when he plays against them.

Munchausen's Proxy: They might be folksy like the chicken -lawyer from Futurama, but they are still douches.

This.
 
2008-03-12 11:15:53 PM
While this does suck balls for this guy, you do have to consider the other side - if they gave him the scholarship, some kid would be saying he didn't get the scholarship just because he didn't adopt his little brother.

That said, this is definitely an "If everyone on the internet gave him a dollar, it'd be awesome" senarios.
 
2008-03-12 11:25:04 PM
The guy has already graduated? Here's a novel idea - get a farking job.
 
2008-03-12 11:45:46 PM
The graduate assistant position would only be open to him once he finished his degree which he would have to do over the summer. Not only that, but whatever the stipend is only covers tuition and books, not room and board, which are the real issues in this case. Given the fact that he has 2 years of eligibility left and is close to graduation should tell you that this guy has been working his ass off while taking care of his brother. You have 5 years of NCAA eligibility to complete a 4 year degree, which plenty of non-athletes take five or six to do. Also, to all those people who are saying that "he should get a job" are probably the same sort of people who feel that every single homeless person in America is homeless because they are lazy or stupid.

Why don't you cut the 21 year old a break? Did you have to raise your little brother because your mom is a crackhead? Did you go through the Georgia foster care system and come out with your head screwed on right? A major college program let Samwise Gamgee stay on the team for 4 years, why not this kid? Isn't amateur sports supposed to be about this kind of thing? Or have we absolutely given up and sold every last thing for a dollar?
 
2008-03-13 12:06:56 AM
bighasbeen
The graduate assistant position would only be open to him once he finished his degree which he would have to do over the summer. Not only that, but whatever the stipend is only covers tuition and books, not room and board, which are the real issues in this case.

"Clemson SID Tim Bourret has issued the following statement:

Some media reports today have said that if Ray Ray McElrathbey elects to return to Clemson to pursue a masters degree that the scholarship would not include room and board. He would in fact receive a stipend that would cover his room and board, in addition to his education expenses."
 
2008-03-13 01:57:28 AM
He can always be a Gamecock
 
2008-03-13 02:54:30 AM
Time to get a job, guy. College football player isn't a job.
 
2008-03-13 07:35:17 AM
Did anyone else read the headline as "Clemens to RB Ray Ray..." I was utterly confused until I clicked on the link.
 
2008-03-13 08:10:55 AM
Sad, but it is a business. Unfortunately.

And by the way, Clemson Football = Suck.

Danny Ford would have found a way to keep him around. *chuckles*
 
2008-03-13 09:15:39 AM
Its sad that this whole thing didn't work out for him, but like others have said, college football is big business. If McElrathbey was so bad that he never even touched the ball on offense, theres no reason to keep him. Maybe Clemson wanted to let him go last year, but did him the favor anddkept him around until he graduated before letting him go.

The kid has his degree (or will have it very shortly). There will be no difference the first day after the scholarship runs out in 2008 or in 2010. Clemson gave a mediocre football player the opportunity for a free degree, and now its time for him to go out and work for a paycheck like the rest of us.
 
2008-03-13 10:05:53 AM
thoraxbusey: Sad, but it is a business. Unfortunately.

And by the way, Clemson Football = Suck.

Danny Ford would have found a way to keep him around. *chuckles*


FTFY

Worst college town I've ever been to. There's only like 4 bars

/GO DAWGS!
 
2008-03-13 10:14:30 AM
This story seems to keep changing. First they just cut him, then they offered the grad assisstant position, now they're throwing in room and board with that.

If they offered all of that up front then good for Clemson, and Ray Ray is just silly for not taking it (that would set him up for a job, coaching HS football if nothing ese, which is far better than his prospects if he keeps playing apparently).

If they keep changing the deal because of media pressure then that's pretty messed up.

And for those who claim college football is a business, he definitely contributed a lot more to the program through his story than most players ever will on the field.
 
2008-03-13 12:05:28 PM
Where's Arlen Spector? It's time for congress to get involved in college sports!
 
2008-03-13 01:55:39 PM
PowerSlacker: What do you expect from a Bowden?

www.msu.edu
 
2008-03-14 11:54:52 AM
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