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(Ad Age)   Guinness and Anheuser-Busch team up trying to make St. Patrick's Day a national holiday, in what is no way a publicity stunt to sell black-and-tans   (adage.com) divider line 186
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2008-03-11 02:23:23 PM  
grizzlyjohnson: Black & Blue: Guinness & Blue Moon

*spew*


Just try it. It's delicious.

From http://nineirishbrothers.com/

Nice. I used to go there in college.

/Purdue, fark yeah
//Harry's was more fun though
 
2008-03-11 02:24:55 PM  
The_Sponge: FloydA: The_Sponge: I enjoy pouring a shot of Jagermeister into a pint of Guinness...not sure if there is an official name for this drink, though.


That's called a "Revolting Travesty"


LOL. Don't knock it till you try it.

_______

Redbreast (on or immediately following payday) or Jameson's (rest of the month), neat and Guinness back. Mixing anything with Guinness wastes space in the glass that could otherwise have held more Guinness!

mmmmmmmmm, Guinness...

Meet you at the Owl and Thistle some day after work and we can swap?

From your profile, it appears that one of us is the other's evil twin, and I wonder if the universe would explode if we met. (You don't have a goatee by any chance?)
 
2008-03-11 02:30:37 PM  
jefe_gonzo: Who the Hell makes a black and tan with Buttwiper?

That's like putting ketchup on lobster.


FTW.

There is nothing in this thread that can top the second post.
 
2008-03-11 02:50:24 PM  
flaming99: As a fellow bear snob, you beer snobs annoy me. While I personnally don't like american lagers - no body, not enough hops, bad after taste, etc - there is certainly a place for it in the market. Let's face it, plastic cups and the 95 degree heat of the ball park or the race track is no place for a creamy stout or bitter ale. Likewise for tailgating or half-time at the annual backyard football game. Most people who drink american lagers do so for the following reasons:

- it's what their father and grandfathers and high-school buddys all drink - they don't know any better (or CARE to know any better)
- they are cheap - 16 bucks for a case of beer your friends are going to be mooching off you all night is a good deal
- they are light and don't weight you down after you have 10 of them
- they are 'refreshing' much like drinking a cold glass of water is refreshing

You don't see people siting around smoking good cigars drinking american lager but then again, that's not the market segment that AB and Coors are targeting, is it?

Let's just be happy that these people are NOT drinking more stouts and pale ales or the prices would go through the roof and they would forever be out of stock! :-)


I don't think you have drunk enough different bitters. Tetleys is a perfect choice for the situation described. Abbotts is a good second...
 
2008-03-11 02:52:04 PM  
I'm a fan of the Guinness + Great Lakes Brewing Company's Dortmunder Gold. I believe its a Black and Gold, and it is damn tastey. try one.

/Guinness alone is good
//Irish Car Bombs are also good
 
2008-03-11 02:52:24 PM  
ArcadianRefugee: "On St. Patrick's Day everybody is Irish"

No, not everyone, jackass.


I absolutely hate that phrase/idea. Especially when I see the Asian chick at a bar on Patty's wearing a shirt that says "Kiss Me, I'm Irish".

/~75% Irish
 
2008-03-11 03:01:07 PM  
For the love of beer! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Hopefully somebody else has said it, (I haven't read the story or any posts on this, I saw the headline and felt compelled to comment) AB is piss, not beer, and has no business being in the same discussion as Guinness, let alone the same glass. Yes that's right, piss ladies and gentlemen.
 
2008-03-11 03:02:33 PM  
Pocket Ninja: Predicting and manipulating online opinions isn't like taking candy from a baby. It's like taking candy from a blind, deaf, comatose, near-death and tied-up baby.

OK, THAT'S going in your farky.
 
2008-03-11 03:03:52 PM  
Enrico Pallazzo: ArcadianRefugee: "On St. Patrick's Day everybody is Irish"

No, not everyone, jackass.

I absolutely hate that phrase/idea. Especially when I see the Asian chick at a bar on Patty's wearing a shirt that says "Kiss Me, I'm Irish".

/~75% Irish

______
Seriously.

What do those people do on other holidays? During Pride Week, do they wear T-shirts that say "buttsechs me, I'm gay"?



/Now I know what to say to the people I see wearing that slogan.
 
2008-03-11 03:05:28 PM  
Can anyone who is actually FROM IRELAND comment on this? Sounds odd to me that they'd want to mix an "English" beer like Bass with Guinness.

BTW, I was in England last summer for 2 weeks, drank in probably 2 dozen pubs from London to Cornwall, and never once saw Bass anywhere. They have much, much better draft beer than that everywhere. I did, however, see a guy in Bath drinking Budweiser. I almost cried.
 
2008-03-11 03:13:38 PM  
Public Service Announcement; Black and Tans, Irish Car Bombs are as authentically Irish as Boston. DO NOT, under any circumstances order one and feel all cool if you're ever in Ireland. At best, the bartender will hate you and take forever to serve you then ignore you for the rest of the night. At worst a local will knife you. The Black and Tans and car bombings are sorta touchy subjects in Irish history.

reposted because it seemed to get lost in the thread and people keep asking. oh, and the younger binge drinking irish will most likely be drinking Bud, Heinekin, or Bulmers because they don't fill you up if you're planning on a long night.
 
2008-03-11 03:24:44 PM  
Wow... umm, snakebites mean something completely different where you people live than they do here.
I've heard a snakebite refer to
1/2 shot Yukon jack + 1/2 shot Tabasco
3/4 shot Yukon jack + 1/4 shot lime juice
1 shot whiskey + 1 shot hotsauce in a shooter glass ...

Yeah, so if you order that in eastern Pa. or CT, and your expecting a beer drink, you may be surprised, it depends on the bar.
 
2008-03-11 03:25:36 PM  
FloydA: "buttsechs me, I'm gay"?

Priceless
 
2008-03-11 03:27:59 PM  
ricewater_stool
Can anyone who is actually FROM IRELAND comment on this? Sounds odd to me that they'd want to mix an "English" beer like Bass with Guinness.

BTW, I was in England last summer for 2 weeks, drank in probably 2 dozen pubs from London to Cornwall, and never once saw Bass anywhere. They have much, much better draft beer than that everywhere. I did, however, see a guy in Bath drinking Budweiser. I almost cried.


Lived there a few months. Only saw Bass in a few pubs while I was there, mostly in the north.

More likely, it would be Harp or better, Smithwick's (silent w). As far as the Bud, I was rather horrified and deeply saddened to see it there myself. Awful "beer" for import prices? No thanks.

Oh and yes, I wouldn't recommend ordering a "Black and Tan". Something about associating the occupational force that was guilty of a great many atrocities (gunning down Gaelic Football spectators still in stands from armored cars, beating kids to death, rape, murder, etc.) with merriment just doesn't seem right.
 
2008-03-11 03:30:28 PM  
gusto1214: reposted because it seemed to get lost in the thread and people keep asking. oh, and the younger binge drinking irish will most likely be drinking Bud, Heinekin, or Bulmers because they don't fill you up if you're planning on a long night.

True. Or quite often as well, straight whiskey and vodka.
 
2008-03-11 03:33:16 PM  
I live in Wisconsin so I'm getting a kick out of these replies

/boo bud
//yay beer
///yay Drinking holidays
////slashies
 
2008-03-11 03:42:45 PM  
Guiness in most American establishments/liquor stores is "Imported". From Canada. Same with Fosters.


A lot of other liquors/beers as well.
 
2008-03-11 04:04:04 PM  
Enrico Pallazzo: ArcadianRefugee: "On St. Patrick's Day everybody is Irish"

No, not everyone, jackass.

I absolutely hate that phrase/idea. Especially when I see the Asian chick at a bar on Patty's wearing a shirt that says "Kiss Me, I'm Irish".

/~75% Irish


So you ask her if she's got in Irish in'er. When she says no, Ask if she like some.
 
2008-03-11 04:10:46 PM  
Black Knight...Guinness floated on Newcastle
 
2008-03-11 04:18:07 PM  
ricewater_stool: Can anyone who is actually FROM IRELAND comment on this? Sounds odd to me that they'd want to mix an "English" beer like Bass with Guinness.

I'm from Ireland. We don't mix beers. Ever.

Also, if you ever ask an actually Irish person about the Black and Tans, he'll give you an earful. Try to imagine the Irish of 2080 naming a mixer "a 9/11".
 
2008-03-11 04:20:20 PM  
Enrico Pallazzo: I absolutely hate that phrase/idea. Especially when I see the Asian chick at a bar on Patty's wearing a shirt that says "Kiss Me, I'm Irish".

Wait, you get an excuse to walk up to some random Asian chick and plant one on her and you're complaining?

Is she that ugly?
 
2008-03-11 06:22:06 PM  
Hmm...the only thing you should mix with Guinness is your lips.

& Guinness is like the Pope in a tittie bar....they just don't go together.
 
2008-03-11 06:30:23 PM  
jefe_gonzo: Who the Hell makes a black and tan with Buttwiper?

That's like putting ketchup on lobster.


Guinness tastes like ass. Hardly "lobster"
 
2008-03-11 06:48:39 PM  
evilned: et Magners Irish Cider in the US (Specifically Montana). Its the one drink from Ireland I can't find anywhere. Most ciders I've had here in the

I have seen it in Kentucky.
 
2008-03-11 07:26:59 PM  
unremarkable asterisk: Wolfinstl: I'm sorry to hear they have the distribution rights to Bass.

Why? It simply means you can find Bass in EVERY bar in St Louis. Why is that a bad thing?


Every dollar they get from selling a fantastic product like Bass goes into making more of their piss beer.
 
2008-03-11 07:59:55 PM  
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2008-03-11 09:50:53 PM  
FalloutBoy: Guinness and cider (we have Woodpecker so we call it The Irish Pecker).


I've always ordered that as a snakebite. I think that's what they were called in Dublin, too.
 
2008-03-11 10:00:51 PM  
jethus_crised: jefe_gonzo: Who the Hell makes a black and tan with Buttwiper?

That's like putting ketchup on lobster.

Guinness tastes like ass. Hardly "lobster"


____

Hmmm. They seem different to me, but I shall defer to your expertise in tasting asses. My experience is admittedly quite limited.

Can you introduce me to any women whose asses tastes like that? 'Cause DAMN!
 
2008-03-11 10:01:46 PM  
Ready!
i4.photobucket.com
 
2008-03-12 12:03:27 AM  
Anyone curious about the original "Black and Tans" (or some of the other Irish culture and counterculture that has impacted our speech and life today) should read Morgan Llewelyn's "Irish Century" series. (1916, 1921, 1949, 1972, and 1999), an historical fiction series that gives you a good perspective on the atrocities the English committed against Ireland and the lasting effects their division of the Irish state had on its history.

The original Black and Tans were despicable human beings at best who acted out their disgusting aggressions on innocent people in the name of crown and country, including things like rolling up on a football match and indiscriminately opening fire (with machine guns) on the players and bystanders because they thought there might be members of the IRA at the match. The first time someone told me I shouldn't call Guinness and Harp a "Black and Tan" I thought they were being uppity... until I read what the words "Black and Tan" really meant to the Irish.
 
2008-03-12 12:16:28 AM  
DeadZone 2008-03-11 12:24:28 PM
Meanwhile, in Massachusetts, it's already a state holiday.


Actually, March 17 is a holiday only in part of the Commonwealth (mostly Boston, Cambridge, and Somerville).

The official name for the day is Evacuation Day because it was the day that the British left Boston in the War of Independence/Revolutionary War.
 
2008-03-12 02:40:13 AM  
Fairlane500: Try a Guinness and Kriek Lambic. I know it sounds heinous, but it turns out to be a pretty damn refreshing beverage.

To make a Red Velvet: Guinness (or Young's Chocolate Stout) and Framboise Lambic. Out-of-this-world yummy!

/stout cuts the cloying sweetness of lindemans lambic
//adds some oomph
///g'wan, i dare you to add a scoop of vanilla ice cream too...
 
2008-03-12 10:04:29 AM  
Man On Fire: Black and Tan?

It's amazing how much history people forget.


I was going to say this. I try to educate people how offensive a name it is. But as to most people Irish history isn't as important as stereotyping the Irish, hijacking their national holiday, and just using just as an excuse not as a celebration.
 
2008-03-12 11:02:20 AM  
Guinness is crap

/that is all
 
2008-03-12 02:32:54 PM  
Any you sonsabiatches mix Guinness with pee-water, and I'ma gonna punch you in the throat!
 
2008-03-12 09:45:27 PM  
ArcadianRefugee

BUGGER OFF YA PROTESTANT BASTARD
 
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