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2001-08-07 08:46:16 AM  
Yes, a few god-damned dirty apes are more important that kids in a farking wheelchair.
Which reminds me: Last sunday I was having lunch at TGI Fridays with a friend, and this family with a severly handicaped girl came in while we were eating. Well, my friend goes to the bathroom and he is gone for a few minutes when this girl starts wailing like a porn star getting DP'ed. The father tells his other girls that he will be right back. A few more minutes go by and my friend comes out and tells me what happened, Apparently he was at the urinal when he felt a nock knock knocking from in side of his anus, so instead of waiting until he got home he decided to lay a butt snake right there. ONly he decideds to use the handicapped pooper so he can, in his own words, "spread out". Well, I guess as he was making like the Play-doh fun factory the father and his wheelchair bound crying daughter come in. They are obviously waiting for the stall to open up. My friend finishes up, comes out and all he can say is "Sorry dude." As he holds the dooor open for them.
 
2001-08-07 09:09:53 AM  
Yeah I think that PETA should hold off on worrying about monkies until we can stop worrying about humans. Spend your farking money on food for the starving. Our dogs live better than some of the humans in Bangledash.
 
2001-08-07 09:16:44 AM  
OK, we all feel bad for the chimps and all, but the farking MARCH OF DIMES?!?! I thought that PETA was all about mainstream acceptance of their values. What's next? UNICEF? The Shriners? Captain Kangaroo?
 
2001-08-07 09:19:57 AM  
I guess the PETA baboons just start taking it personally when they see relatives being experimented on.
 
2001-08-07 09:29:33 AM  
Don't expect common sense to work on PETA. I've actually heard one of those clowns say something to the effect of "If it would take 2.5 billion humans dying to save mother earht then so be it." I figure that pinhead should be on the top of the list of people to die. I imagine there aren't any PETA members with disabled children Purple Duck. Lets face it. Animal activism is a sure sign that you have way too much free time on your hands. I sure hope none of them use any medications that were ever tested on animals.
 
2001-08-07 09:51:47 AM  
Let's just test medications on PETA-members instead. That way the pharmaceutical companies can rightly claim that no animal was hurt in the development of that drug. Side effect: The number of PETA-members will rapidly drop.
 
2001-08-07 10:22:02 AM  
"Pray - for - Mojo..."
 
2001-08-07 10:31:13 AM  
In related news, PETA members pummeled some crippled children outside an elementary school in Beaverton, Oregon. When the children resisted, he assailants reportedly stomped on their wheelchairs and shouted "PETA eats vegetables for breakfast!!"
 
2001-08-07 11:10:35 AM  
You know I'm guessing the March of Dimes is only giving money to monkey researchers so that they can find cures for diseases. Now, if putting an electric rod up a monkey's ass will keep my future children from dying of some disease, I say plug it in. We're the dominant species on this planet for a reason, folks.
 
2001-08-07 11:14:16 AM  
When the revolution comes, peta members will be the first against the wall. Let the shotguns sing their song.
 
2001-08-07 11:17:07 AM  
Scraping-fetus-off-the-wheel,
Don't shoot them, waste of good lead. My way, they can be usefull for once in their lives.
 
Rei
2001-08-07 11:35:55 AM  
... I may actually support them on this one (can't believe I'm saying that, everyone), although I don't know the details about the research. I only support research on advanced primates in very limited circumstances.

-= rei =-
 
2001-08-07 11:38:17 AM  
I just saw this movie about the future where apes rule the world. I'm pretty sure it's based on fact. Man, was it frightening. They're gonna enslave us, and keep us as pets if we don't do something about it now.

I don't now much about peta bread, but the way I figure it, we can use the chimps we have now for research, and not only will it help US, it'll also help all those poor apes born with march of dimes as well!!
 
2001-08-07 11:42:52 AM  
I have to agree with Rei on this one, testing on advanced primates should be limited to certain circumstances. And since humans are pretty advanced primates, I say that circumstance should be that the primate be a PETA member. Doctors, do your worst, we don't mind
 
2001-08-07 11:44:46 AM  
I saw that movie too!
Everything is funny until one of the PETA people catch March of Dimes Disease.
Then we'll see!
 
2001-08-07 11:46:41 AM  
"We felt it was a great place to run the billboard, so we can let people in Oregon know that when they donate to the March of Dimes their donations could be supporting cruel and ineffective animal research."

Cruel and ineffective, yes. But DELICIOUS!
 
2001-08-07 12:08:44 PM  
PETA needs to go straight to Hell in a cat-gut hand-basket.
A human is more important than ANY monkey. I do not condone pointless research that is harmful or painful to the little monkeys (like REI said, we don't know what research is going on exactly). But probably, knowing PETA, it is softer toilet paper research. PETA folks need to volunteer themselves to be the lab-rats if they don't want a monkey to be tested. I would gladly poke and prod a PETA member...and 30-grit sandpaper would be used for the softer toilet paper testing.
 
2001-08-07 12:09:30 PM  
Good joke, Rei.
 
Rei
2001-08-07 12:23:31 PM  
Killja:

Humans aren't absolute perfection, and everything else worth nothing. Its all a sliding scale. And chimpanzees are incredibly close to us in mental ability; if humans dissapeared suddenly, I doubt it'd take more than 500,000 years before one of the two species started a rapid technological advance. Bonobos, for example, have been observed to create flint knives. Common chimpanzees have been observed to perform coordinated attacks with sharpened spears. I don't even know where to begin on examples about them... everything from figuring out how to use a cell phone to inventing prostitution, they've done.

Don't think you're gods just because you can stand on the shoulders of the technology built by your ancestors.

-= rei =-
 
2001-08-07 12:25:19 PM  
I say we start using death row inmates for research. Now that might make science fun again!
 
Rei
2001-08-07 01:00:43 PM  
I agree with the concept that, if humans weren't so egotistical, we'd be in the same genus as chimpanzees. We're not distant enough to justify our own genus.

The bonobo
[image from owlnet.rice.edu too old to be available]

The common chimpanzee
[image from primates.com too old to be available]

-= rei =-
 
2001-08-07 01:03:06 PM  
Ya I saw that movie. Afterwards I went to the zoo and I grabbed one of them little bastards, opened its mouth and said "Is there a soul in there" Everyone just burst out laughing. Except the Peta folks. And the monkey of course.
 
Rei
2001-08-07 01:19:35 PM  
Stinkbug:

Hmm... does the Planet of the Apes have PETH? :)

-= rei =-
 
2001-08-07 01:24:26 PM  
Wow I wish I lived in oregon, I swear I'd deface that billboard. These people are just assholes, plain and farking simple. We should herd up PETA members and experiment on them.
 
2001-08-07 01:53:01 PM  
I'm sorry...I don't think human life is that damn valuable to begin with. We're so self-righteous...we're the only specie that claims this whole shindig happened just to produce us. How arrogant.

If someone asked me to kill a dog to save the life of some random human, I'd have to politely decline and take my new pet home.
 
2001-08-07 02:07:07 PM  
What makes a monkey better than say a rabbit? If you disagree with animal testing you should be against all animal testing. I mean jesus, just because they look all cute in zoos and can do sign language doesn't make them any better than the gerbil I stuff up my ass at night. Animals are animals and people are people. Yes, I think my life is worth a hell of a lot more that the life of a chimp. Even 100 chimps, if you don't think so, maybe you're an ex-girlfriend, or maybe you don't understand the pecking order on this planet. As for standing on the shoulders of my ancestors, I have no problem doing that. If you can't make your own clothes from raw materials or smelt iron you can suck a big fat cock with that argument rei. If you don't think we should use the collective advancements of our race go plop yourself in the middle of the jungle naked with no food or anything else and then we will see how you feel. Besides, have you ever seen a monkey with a set like Tiffany Taylor's? If I ever saw a monkey running around with a rack like that I may accept them as equals. Or at least that one.
 
2001-08-07 02:07:17 PM  
I guess the PETA freaks gotta look out after their relatives, too

Oh, yeah...PETA can suck my fat johnson!
 
2001-08-07 02:19:55 PM  
Animal cruelty of any kind makes me shudder. I have three dogs, and I couldn't stand to think of them in pain. And I think that most people can agree with that.
 
2001-08-07 02:22:37 PM  
Judging by your responses I guess you would be okay if some aliens snatched up you and did weird and painful experiments on you just to help cure their crack larvae. It would be justified since they're more adavanced than you.
 
2001-08-07 02:25:56 PM  
One time in Cancun A monkey stole my drink and peed on my wig. What about my pain? WHAT ABOUT MY PAIN? WHAAAAaaaaa !!
 
Rei
2001-08-07 02:28:34 PM  
Purple_duckk:

What makes a monkey better than say a rabbit? If you disagree with animal testing you should be against all animal testing.

You obviously haven't read my posts. As I've stated several times, in this thread and others (though, I won't hold you accountable for others, hehehee ;) ), intelligence is not binary. Binary phenomina only exist in the imagination. It is a sliding scale. Killing a chimpanzee is slightly less bad than killing a human. Killing a gorilla slightly less bad than killing a chimpanzee. Etc. Things go on like this. Rabbits are pretty low on the scale for mammals when it comes to intelligence, but do deserve some respect - more than most reptiles, practically all amphibians, insects, et al.

As for the rest of your post, its just insulting.

-= rei =-
 
2001-08-07 02:29:10 PM  
Does PETA know that lighted billboards cause bird deaths? As an aid to nighttime navigation, some birds keep a light source (ideally, the moon) at a 90-degree angle. By doing this with an artificial source, they fly in a circle, eventually hitting the source itself, another obstruction or even other birds. It happens with lighted communications towers in greater numbers, but billboards are also culprits. Now PETA has to picket itself.
 
2001-08-07 02:41:11 PM  
Animals are better than people; you never see a rooster beating the shiat out of his hen, or a beaver locking her kits in the car trunk, and you never see a brown bear killing another bear just because it's a black bear. Let's face it: we, as a species, eat shiat.
 
2001-08-07 02:47:14 PM  
I still want to take PETA to task for advocating the murder of innocent fruits and vegetables! JUST BECAUSE A POTATO CAN'T SCREAM DOESN'T MEAN IT DOESN'T FEEL PAIN!!
 
2001-08-07 02:57:09 PM  
Amen Freddy. Killing defenseless vegetables, indeed. At least animals can run. What's an apple going to do?
 
2001-08-07 03:02:02 PM  
HKWolf:

Good idea but scientifically death row inmates do not constitute a good normal population on which to experiment. Most would make horrible test subjects. I would recommend using fundies instead, because biologically they are fairly normal, it's just their minds that are whacked out.
 
2001-08-07 03:04:58 PM  
PETA can kiss my entire arse. They had a billboard up in my city once. It took about 2 days before that billboard was completely defaced. It was a billboard that read something like jesus was a vegatarian. Don't eat meat. People for the ethical treatment of animals. Had a nice picture of jesus and all. Well in about two days after it was up someone had added a NOT in the jesus was vegitarian sentence and changed the people for the ethical treatment of aninals to people eat tasty animals. You got to remember folks I live in the midwest, animals are our business and we really don't like self rightcous animal activist messing with our livelyhood. That billboard was removed in about a month after it was defaced never to be heard from again...
Have you seen the PETA morons literature? It is rediculous. Talk about some farked up values and ideas. Sorry folks as the reverend Horton heat says: "Eat steak, eat steak, eat a big ole steer eat steak eat steak do we have one here. Eat beef eat beef it's a mighty good food it's a grade a food when I'm in the mooooood!"
 
2001-08-07 03:06:10 PM  
So mental capacity dictates it then? Great, let's do research on the invalids. Human research is better than animal research anyway. Plus we get the added bonus of getting rid of those smelly farks. And as for being insulting, you obviously haven't read any of MY previous posts eh? And don't let my lack of a spelling ability detract from my message. By the way rei, have you even taken a look at Tiffany Taylor's rack? I mean I think you would be amazed instead of insulted if you did.

And Freddy has a pretty good point. I remember research being done on if plant life reacts to pain. I vaugly remember them finding electric shock caused plants to produce the equivalent of our endorphines indicating that they react in the same way animal life does. So put that in your pipe and smoke it. Or better yet don't pick that poor plant and burn it because it's unethical.
 
2001-08-07 03:06:28 PM  
Rei: Why should intelligence be a criterium for determining which animals are expendable? Also the human idea of intelligence is from the human perspective. Maybe from a lemming's perspective the humans are way down the latter in terms of intelligence. After all, how intelligent is it to destroy the place in which one lives. Lemmings are at least intelligent enough to deal with overpopulation aren't they?
 
2001-08-07 03:06:34 PM  
Eat Steak


Eat steak, eat steak eat a big ol' steer
Eat steak, eat steak do we have one dear?
Eat beef, eat beef it's a mighty good food
It's a grade A meal when I'm in the mood.


Cowpokes'll come from a near and far
When you throw a few rib-eyes on the fire
Roberto Duran ate two before a fight
'Cause it gave a lot of mighty men a lot of mighty might


Eat steak, eat steak eat a big ol' steer
Eat steak, eat steak do we have one dear?
Eat beef, eat beef it's a mighty good food
It's a grade A meal when I'm in the mood.


Eat meat, eat meat, filet mignon
Eat meat, eat meat, ear it all day long
Eat a few T-bones till you get your fill
Eat a New York cut, hot off the grill


Eat steak, eat steak eat a big ol' steer
Eat steak, eat steak do we have one dear?
Eat beef, eat beef it's a mighty good food
It's a grade A meal when I'm in the mood.


Eat a cow, eat a cow 'cuase it's good for you
Eat a cow, eat a cow it's the thing that goes "Mooooo"


Look at all the cows in the slaughterhouse yard
Gotta hit 'em in the head, gotta hit 'em real hard
First you gotta clean'em then the butcher cuts 'em up
Throws it on a scale throws an eyeball in a cup


Saw a big Brangus Steer standing right over there
So I rustled up a fire cooked him medium rare
Bar-B-Q'd his brisket, a roasted his rump
Fed my dog that ol' Brangus Steer's hump


Eat steak, eat steak eat a big ol' steer
Eat steak, eat steak do we have one dear?
Eat beef, eat beef it's a mighty good food
It's a grade A meal when I'm in the mood.
 
2001-08-07 03:09:55 PM  
I meant to write 'ladder' or maybe there is some strange filter changing my words...damn high sherrifs!
 
Rei
2001-08-07 03:26:30 PM  
Purple_duckk:

I'm starting to question the level of intelligence that *you* are currently operating at. Lets look at your post.

So mental capacity dictates it then? Great, let's do research on the invalids. Human research is better than animal research anyway. Plus we get the added bonus of getting rid of those smelly farks.

Even a child with downs syndrome has many times the intelligence of a rabbit, and several orders of magnitude the intelligence of an amphibian, arthropod, et al. Would you be opposed to testing on a human body born with no brain? Or a human who has died? If the answer is "no" or "less than on a normal, live person" on either of those, it should be clear to you that the functioning mind is the critical part here.

And as for being insulting, you obviously haven't read any of MY previous posts eh? And don't let my lack of a spelling ability detract from my message.

And... now, exactly, what concept of yours did I not notice? You were completely mistaken on my stance, treating my view of testing on animals as "all or nothing", a binary "its wrong to kill an animal, ok to kill a non-animal" stance, which is about as far from my views as you can get.

By the way rei, have you even taken a look at Tiffany Taylor's rack? I mean I think you would be amazed instead of insulted if you did.

The next time you go to the doctor's office, ask him/her to prescribe you Androcur - you could use it.

And Freddy has a pretty good point. I remember research being done on if plant life reacts to pain. I vaugly remember them finding electric shock caused plants to produce the equivalent of our endorphines indicating that they react in the same way animal life does. So put that in your pipe and smoke it. Or better yet don't pick that poor plant and burn it because it's unethical.

And pain is intelligence... how?

Mmhmm, thought so. Next!

-= rei =-
 
2001-08-07 03:58:09 PM  
haha. androcur. not available in the us, though, so he'll have to go to one of those online pharmacies in the middle-east or southeast asia or wherever they are.
 
2001-08-07 03:59:10 PM  
Y.Dload:
Sorry but that's not true. Animals do beat up on each other. A rooster will abuse its flock. A grizzly bear will not only kill a black bear, it would eat the body. Not only that, a male bear will kill and eat cubs. There's even a case where a troop of chimpanzees declared "war" on another troop. The winning chimps deliberately hunted down and killed every member of the other troop over a period of a few years. Not a single one of the losers was allowed to join the winning side. Animals are not the saints PETA would have people think.

Animals do not deserve to be tortured for torture's sake. There must be a definite goal (self-gratification is not an allowable goal) and suffering minimized if it has to be done at all. If animals must be used, animals such as rodents are preferable to higher brain functions because they are lower mental states, they multiply rapidly and have shorter lifespans.
 
2001-08-07 04:00:18 PM  
I'm going to be honest: I didn't read all the posts here. So, if what I'm about to say has been said before, don't sue.

With that out of the way, what about using human volenteers in place of the primate? You know, just having Jimmy sign a few waivers, undergo the testing, and paying him a decent ammount of money if he survives.

Or, manditory testing on the lawyers...
 
2001-08-07 04:04:01 PM  
hey, rei: i thought of someting that's binary. matter and antimatter. i think.
 
2001-08-07 04:05:44 PM  
i saw a guy run into a room and tear up a plant sitting next to me, the plant next to me released some pherimones and my ass was severely freaked out
 
2001-08-07 04:06:32 PM  
Well, a non thinking plant would react very similar to how Many retarded people would react to pain, the same way a less intelligent animal would: show little to no physical discomfort, but the body would react biologically. If you think that even severly mentally retarded people have "many times the intelligence of a rabbit..." you need to go to an adult foster home sometime and wipe some asses. Besideds I was taking a pot shot at your idea that the less intelligent an animal the less it's life is worth. Why do you think I called them smelly farks? Hm, looks like you don't know your shiat. I bet you never even checked out Tiffany's rack either did you? Arguing about something you don't even know about. You poor poor soul. Next!

Mersault, I'm glad you knew what I was talking about. I guess that means I should stop going out to farms and sticking carrots up my ass.
 
2001-08-07 04:10:30 PM  
LordB: It has already been done and it is called the voluntary military. Also we are again testing the efficacy of Agent Orange on the peasants of Columbia because everyone knows that Columbia has no intelligent life (*disclaimer* this is sarcasm for those of you who lack the intelligence of a 'lower' animal).

Rei: I'm still waiting to hear your take on why 'intelligence' as defined by humans, is the only criteria?
 
2001-08-07 04:10:41 PM  
Meat:
Not to defend Rei (;)), but I'm pretty sure there are various particles that do not fall under either matter or antimatter.

I'm also pretty sure that, for example, a "matter" proton and an "anti-matter" proton, or negitron, are both comprised of same quarks. It's just the ammounts of each type of quark that determines spin, and thus, charge, of the particle.

Or, again, I could be way off base.
 
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