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(ESPN)   Too bad NASCAR drivers aren't awarded points for celebrations, Carl Edwards docked 100 points for infractions   (sports.espn.go.com) divider line 20
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2008-03-05 05:06:36 PM
FTA: Also, crew chief Bob Osborne was fined $100,000 and suspended for the next six races

Damn, that seems excessive.
 
2008-03-05 05:22:07 PM
EvilElecBlanket: Damn, that seems excessive.

That's pretty much been the standard for car infractions since last year.

Anybody know when Robby Gordon's appeal result will come out? His hearing was supposed to be today.
 
2008-03-05 05:56:44 PM
These penalties that have been issued from the NASCAR office are insane! Fines, 100-point penalties, etc are way too much. I mean, this is freaking Carl Edwards were talking about. He's probably the nicest, most honest racer in the Cup right now. He's not going to cheat!

/As always...Go Smoke!!!
 
2008-03-05 07:30:48 PM
So the oil tank cover came off, and with no evidence it was intentionally not put on, they're fining the team for cheating? Yeah, that makes sense.
 
2008-03-05 09:21:03 PM
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2008-03-05 09:31:04 PM
I think it's excessive but I thought Robby's fine was excessive too. At least they're consistent a-holes for once
 
2008-03-05 09:32:30 PM
lunchinlewis: EvilElecBlanket: Damn, that seems excessive.

That's pretty much been the standard for car infractions since last year.

Anybody know when Robby Gordon's appeal result will come out? His hearing was supposed to be today.


The points penalty and crew chief suspension were overturned, but the fine was bumped up to $150,000.
 
2008-03-05 09:35:15 PM
I submitted the story on the Robby Gordon infraction here but FARK passed on it: Robby Gordon decision (new window)

The commission made sense for once and overturned NASCAR restoring Robby Gordon's points (driver and owner) and reinstated the crew chief. They upped the fine to $150,000 which I don't necessarily agree with since it was all Dodge fault with the serial numbers being the same, but at least they gave him his points. Now he is back up to 21st in the standings and should be safely in the top 35 barring some bad finishes when they hit race 6 and go to this years points for qualifying.
 
2008-03-05 09:37:33 PM
relaxitsjustme: At least they're consistent a-holes for once
Tru dat. F*ck with the new car? 100 pints and 100 grand. Every time. Intent is not up for debate.
 
2008-03-05 09:39:02 PM
the biggest redneck here: relaxitsjustme: At least they're consistent a-holes for once
Tru dat. F*ck with the new car? 100 pints and 100 grand. Every time. Intent is not up for debate.


Well, maybe not.

/slow reply, hadn't seen the Gordon decision yet
 
2008-03-05 09:41:30 PM
So... from what I understand, a screw comes loose in the #99, Edwards wins anyway, and here's what happens: The crew chief gets the same suspension handed down to repeat offender Chad Knaus at Sonoma last year when he knowingly farked with the Car of Tomorrow template, and Carl himself gets a similar penalty to Michael Waltrip whose crew knowingly put an illegal fuel additive in the #55 prior to Daytona last year?

Absolute crap.
 
2008-03-05 09:50:56 PM
Daedalus27:
The commission made sense for once and overturned NASCAR restoring Robby Gordon's points (driver and owner) and reinstated the crew chief. They upped the fine to $150,000 which I don't necessarily agree with since it was all Dodge fault with the serial numbers being the same, but at least they gave him his points. Now he is back up to 21st in the standings and should be safely in the top 35 barring some bad finishes when they hit race 6 and go to this years points for qualifying.


I'm glad about Gordon getting a break. I've been a fan since I met him at Indy several Brickyards back and got his autograph. I was also at the Indy 500 he almost won in '99, and like a lot of people there was pretty disappointed when he ran out of gas running first. I think its really doubtful he'll be in the running for the chase in May, so hopefully he decides to run the Indy 500 again.
 
2008-03-05 09:53:08 PM
whitefalcon79: So... from what I understand, a screw comes loose in the #99, Edwards wins anyway, and here's what happens: The crew chief gets the same suspension handed down to repeat offender Chad Knaus at Sonoma last year when he knowingly farked with the Car of Tomorrow template, and Carl himself gets a similar penalty to Michael Waltrip whose crew knowingly put an illegal fuel additive in the #55 prior to Daytona last year?

Absolute crap.


Pretty much. A first time "offender", intentional or otherwise, will get the same penalty that a habitual offender like Knaus would get. Apparently, intentionally trying to cheat and an honest mistake are the same thing to NASCAR.

But, hey, it doesn't seem to bother Rick Hendricks. As long as his boys keep stinking up the joint by winning half (or more) of the races, he doesn't care how it's done. And neither does NASCAR.
 
2008-03-05 10:42:56 PM
whitefalcon79: screw comes loose

After 5 Nationwide cars getting penalties for loose oil tank covers, you'd think they would have taken more precautions to keep the lid on tight. Saw an interview with Gil Martin (crew chief, #07) and he holds his on with 4 bolts and duct tape over the bolts.

BTW, any CC that is in Sprint Cup is a repeat offender. You don't get there by not thinking outside the box and trying things that could get you in trouble. If everybody built cars exactly to the rulebook you would have a series that is as popular and successful as IROC right now.
 
2008-03-05 11:01:29 PM
kwelling12:

BTW, any CC that is in Sprint Cup is a repeat offender. You don't get there by not thinking outside the box and trying things that could get you in trouble. If everybody built cars exactly to the rulebook you would have a series that is as popular and successful as IROC right now.


Oh it would still be popular. You still have pit strategy to consider. There is also the weekly victim(s) of JP Montoya's idiotic driving to spice things up.
 
2008-03-05 11:01:41 PM
Passive Aggressive Larry: I'm glad about Gordon getting a break. I've been a fan since I met him at Indy several Brickyards back and got his autograph. I was also at the Indy 500 he almost won in '99, and like a lot of people there was pretty disappointed when he ran out of gas running first. I think its really doubtful he'll be in the running for the chase in May, so hopefully he decides to run the Indy 500 again.

Agree. He may be a putz on the track, but the few times I've met him, he's been a hell of a guy. The man lives for racing, hass put some major money into it, and I'm damn glad to see that NASCAR actually made (more or less) the right decision in this case.

Still kinda pissed about increasing his fine to $150,000, but at least he gets his points & chief back.
 
2008-03-05 11:27:29 PM
Woo! First Greenlight!
 
2008-03-05 11:35:54 PM
i was at the race and he won fair and square. i think they're being hard on the chief. it was a tough race because of the wind and the media all over the place.

rousch can suck a weenie, though.

(i work for shelby.)
 
2008-03-05 11:38:52 PM
Don't really like Robbie Gordon but agree he got screwed, for the $150k fine Dodge can make a donation away from the spotlight and cover that for f'ing up.

For Edwards fine. Consider Dale Jnr got the first infraction for the COT, same punishment except for the chase points* and they got it for securing the the rear spoiler with the wrong bolts, but they were bolts supplied by Nascar during testing. I'd go with Dale Jnr & Tony Jnr getting it worse (regardless of repeat offenders or not..and I don't know what they have been fined previously if anything).

Memo to drivers and crew chiefs, you fark the car you can write a check for $100k and book 6 weekends of vacation as well and wave goodbye to 100 driver & owner points as well.
 
2008-03-06 09:42:12 AM
DeCypher44 I am assume you are being sarcastic. Opie is evil.
 
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