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(Some Guy)   Gary Gygax, creator of Dungeons & Dragons, has failed his saving throw vs. death   (freeyabb.com) divider line 1090
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2008-03-04 02:34:35 PM  
Shadow Blasko: So, was it true that Gary was the basis for Elminster?

No, that's Ed Greenwood.

samimgreen: Goodbye, Gygax, and thank you.

/Is it too early to hit on the gamer girls in here?
//my dice bag may not be big, but I always roll 20s


Wait, what?
 
2008-03-04 02:35:07 PM  
AnotherDisillusionedCollegeStudent: Jesus, I knew Fark was nerdy as all get-out, but seriously people.

/Never played D&D, proud to say, but none of my console RPGs would have existed without it, so respect and RIP


But you love video games. Pot, meet kettle. He's a big dork just like you!
 
2008-03-04 02:35:13 PM  
Probably inappropriate, but I miss MERP. Like Rolemaster, it was, but with less insanity in designing characters.
 
DVD
2008-03-04 02:35:13 PM  
VictoryCabal: So Gygax is dead, but Jack Chick is still alive?

There's no justice in this world.


"Why did my good brother die and my drunken, no-good brother live? Why, why??"

"Sister, looks like the Lord didn't want your no-good brother either."
 
2008-03-04 02:35:15 PM  
I hope he comes back as some kick-ass undead!

I played, My son plays -- time to join him and have a father/son moment. I hope GG gets a nice Keep on the Borderlands.
 
2008-03-04 02:35:29 PM  
Like I said I haven't played in a while but what is the huge difference in 4th version that everyone doesn't like? I played 3.5 so that is all I know.

/still stoked about the online play as long as people actually do it also so I am not the only one.
 
2008-03-04 02:36:03 PM  
Goodbye Gary, thanks for seeing me through puberty!

/hopes God starts him out at level 3
 
2008-03-04 02:36:56 PM  
VictoryCabal: So Gygax is dead, but Jack Chick is still alive?

There's no justice in this world.


God & Jesus needed a DM
 
2008-03-04 02:37:11 PM  
Connector_connection: Like I said I haven't played in a while but what is the huge difference in 4th version that everyone doesn't like? I played 3.5 so that is all I know.

/still stoked about the online play as long as people actually do it also so I am not the only one.


From the bit I can gather, people have around 90 reasons (plus tax) to not like the new edition.

Me, I'd have to wonder whether the old 3.5 supplements will work.
 
2008-03-04 02:37:16 PM  
jvowles: nmiguy: Don't worry, Gary, there are 100,000 wizards right now casting a resurrect spell. You'll be back shortly as long as you can make your constitution roll to avoid insanity...

You need a high level priest for that. Wizards only get Animate Dead, and you really don't want Gary's corpse shambling along.


Lich!
 
2008-03-04 02:38:53 PM  
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2008-03-04 02:39:14 PM  
Connector_connection: BTW my guy was Xavier the fighter(yeah I know cheesy name and all like I said I was a noob but I came to love that guy so I never left him. Another good time I had we were walking along and there was a falcon following us for a while so we were getting a little nervous. We told our ranger to give it a warning shot to see what it does. He refused(damn kids) so I said screw it and took up my bow with the fighter. I wouldn't be damned if not only did I hit the bird that was over 50 yards away but I also crited it... with a bow... on a fighter. Everyone in the group was laughing their ass off at the ranger and then continued to reticule him for a very long time after.


/Want to hear more funny game stories!!!


We were doing a little Ravenloft module that my friend had created, and I was playing Mulligan. Somehow or another, the entire town got overrun with werewolves, and one of them managed to infiltrate the inn our characters where sleeping at. We were up on the third story of this building, and considering Mulligan is more of a "distract the beastie while the others kill it" kind of guy, he tried to do so. He got the brilliant idea to bust out his trusty grappling hook and rope, and lash himself to one end so he could sort of restrain the werewolf to the center of the room to keep it from escaping.

I rolled a 19 on my attempt to hook the beast, so I sunk the hook pretty damn good. Sweet. Only thing that sucks is that he decided in that same round that he'd had enough, and now he was going to retreat. Out the window.

It was one of those bitter sweet victories where one second I was like, "Yay! We ran off the werewolf! WHOO!", and then the DM (He was a mean, but fun DM) says, "Yeah, but unfortunately, you're still attached to him.". So Mulligan gets JERKED out the window forcibly, falls the 30 feet to the ground, and proceeds to get dragged around town by a frightened and wounded werewolf while all the other werewolves chased after the juicy morsel on a rope.

Luckily, my comrades came to my rescue (as they always did) and cut me free from the rope (Mulligan didn't own any weapons but the wheellocks, not even a knife) and saved me from being devoured by an 8 strong pack of very hungry werewolves. That's why I loved that bastard. When nothing was happening, I somehow managed to create a situation for us to get out of.
 
2008-03-04 02:39:39 PM  
Damn...

/clutches her chainmail dice bag
 
2008-03-04 02:40:42 PM  
Sabalo: Potbreath: Sabalo: Potbreath: I think his heart gave out after seeing what WOTC did to D&D with the recent 4th edition preview at the D&D Experiences convention.

I'll miss you, Gary. Thanks so much for filling my childhood with great memories and great friends. You will be missed.

Having been out of the loop for a while... why a 4th edition?

Or is the answer so obviously "money" that I need not even ask?

It's you choice: Either money, as you said, or to fix the ridiculous overly-complex rules and min/maxing that 3rd edition (and 3.5ed) brought to this much loved game.

Just curious, as I said... I've been out of touch for a while. It might be perception, but releasing 3E, then 3.5E, then 4E in pretty close sequence seemed shady.

Then again, the whole WoD relaunch irked me too. "Sorry, we screwed up so we're going to push reset, LOL!"


Well for what it's worth, 3.0 was supposed to last, but they had so many bugs in it that they needed to release 3.5; more or less the 3.0 and 3.5 stuff work together with some cobbling.

All told 3.0 and 3.5 had a good run of it between them. 4th is supposed to keep the good parts of 3.x and scrap the bad, adding in new bits from all over and making D&D easier to learn and get into, but keeping the complexity that it always has had for the more experienced.

For what it's worth you can check out ENWorld, which has a lof the changes to 4e listed, as well as plenty of raging flamewars between those who are converting and those who are not.

This last weekends Con unveiled 4e fully and ENWorld is listing a lot of the info, making it possible to test out a mini-game of 4e now, before it's release in June.

/resumes grieving
 
2008-03-04 02:41:08 PM  
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2008-03-04 02:41:24 PM  
Back in the day when we had to use our imagination, and argued about math...

Today it's different.

RIP Gary. Thanks for the good times.
 
2008-03-04 02:41:30 PM  
IXI Jim IXI: God & Jesus needed a DM

And here I thought they just need to have someone explain the encumbrance rules to them.
 
2008-03-04 02:41:33 PM  
Was that thunder, or Gary rolling for damage?
 
2008-03-04 02:41:39 PM  
A WIZARD DID IT!
 
2008-03-04 02:41:42 PM  
Gamer Grrrl: Shadow Blasko: So, was it true that Gary was the basis for Elminster?

No, that's Ed Greenwood.

samimgreen: Goodbye, Gygax, and thank you.

/Is it too early to hit on the gamer girls in here?
//my dice bag may not be big, but I always roll 20s

Wait, what?


Nothing, milady. Don't worry, I'm not big. I'm not dangerous. I'm not rich. But I can toss some magic and have a tower. Wanna see my familiar?

/*snicker*
//*giggle*
 
2008-03-04 02:41:45 PM  
Sabalo: From the bit I can gather, people have around 90 reasons (plus tax) to not like the new edition.

Me, I'd have to wonder whether the old 3.5 supplements will work.


Of course they still work. I know people who still play ADnD.
 
2008-03-04 02:42:14 PM  
The Stealth Hippopotamus: And here I thought they just need to have someone explain the encumbrance rules to them.

Even Gary has limits...
 
2008-03-04 02:42:23 PM  
I had a small group of friends who played D&D with me. i have a few books, and had an urge to get into it, but the DM's that played were awful. they gave us tons of experience and magic items. It felt like cheating. That was over 10 years ago. I'd like to find a small group to play with again someday.
 
2008-03-04 02:42:49 PM  
altrocks: samimgreen: signine: EVERYBODY, ROLL INITIATIVE

I cast invisibility.

/suck it, fighters

Someone disagrees with you:


I thought we agreed no beholders in this campaign setting...
 
2008-03-04 02:42:54 PM  
Not even a www.hatelabs.com can contain my sorrow.
Hmmm,...Hallmark NEEDS a D&D line of cards.

To say D&D had an impact on the childhood of my small group of friends would be an understatement.

As evidenced here...too much D&D fun... SFW but contains the F-word in print which seems to get banned no matter the artistic intent.

RIP DM...See you on some other plane.
 
2008-03-04 02:44:12 PM  
mooseyfate

It was one of those bitter sweet victories where one second I was like, "Yay! We ran off the werewolf! WHOO!", and then the DM (He was a mean, but fun DM) says, "Yeah, but unfortunately, you're still attached to him.". So Mulligan gets JERKED out the window forcibly, falls the 30 feet to the ground, and proceeds to get dragged around town by a frightened and wounded werewolf while all the other werewolves chased after the juicy morsel on a rope.

That was great.. sounds like something I would have done:) God.. reading this stuff makes me want to start to play again but I am convinced that no body in NJ plays anything but how to be a douche bag or WoW.
 
2008-03-04 02:44:12 PM  
Trance750: go for the eyes boo:

He's not really news as far as mainstream media is concerned. Mainstream media thinks RPG books are satan worshiping manuals.

As far as I've heard, only one or two people killed themselves because of the game, yet to hear it from the MSN, everybody who plays the game will commit suicide


I just committed suicide last week...

/Lifelong gamer
//RIP, Gary...
 
2008-03-04 02:44:32 PM  
Sabalo: Potbreath: I think his heart gave out after seeing what WOTC did to D&D with the recent 4th edition preview at the D&D Experiences convention.

I'll miss you, Gary. Thanks so much for filling my childhood with great memories and great friends. You will be missed.

Having been out of the loop for a while... why a 4th edition?

Or is the answer so obviously "money" that I need not even ask?


#1) WOTC is just happy enough to keep releasing new splat books. Some employees have had their opinion known that D&D doesn't need an update for around 5 years before things should be "fixed". They are busy enough with M:TG, and trying in vain to keep the sinking ship that is Yu-gay-oh alive.
#2) Hasbro basically bought out WoTC in 2002ish. As a giant toy company, they felt the need to take a company aimed at 13+ and turn it into boring crap and have everything be as family oriented as possible. Things have been increasingly bland from WotC, but WotC is far from a burning ship in of itself. It has just fallen from glory.

And you can't say WoTC made D&D a flaming pile of crap. You think HabroTC would waste money on 4th ed? 3 and 3.5 had the highest sales in history for D&D. WotC salvaged AD&D because TSR couldn't push out their books because they printed waaaaaaaay too much supply for the demand. WotC basically bought every book along with the company since TSR couldn't pay the book publisher's anymore.

As always, we can blame the company that bought out WotC,( WotC is still a division of Hasbro at least), for making unnecessary crap. Garfield (not the lame comic strip) left as CEO of WotC in 96, so anything that his company did AFTER his departure, is totally not his fault.
 
2008-03-04 02:44:35 PM  
Dear dark spirits:

Please allow Gary Gygax to come back to life, if only for a moment, to pull out and eat the withered heart of Jack Chick. Enclosed is a 100k diamond, wrapped in a pigeon.

Thanks,

Allen.
 
2008-03-04 02:44:55 PM  
The Stealth Hippopotamus: It's just not the same. You need the mocking laughter of your best friends after you fail a saving throw and fall of a perfectly good rope ladder.

Not saying that ever happened to me. It was a friend of mine. And she was a girl, in our group. No really.


Had a thief that got attacked by undead dogs. Probably would've survived if he hadn't thrown his sword over the fence first, then tried to climb it.

/he failed the climb check, fell back in, got eaten alive with his sword no more than 2 feet away
 
2008-03-04 02:46:07 PM  
SnoreCriminal: Sabalo: Potbreath: Sabalo: Potbreath: I think his heart gave out after seeing what WOTC did to D&D with the recent 4th edition preview at the D&D Experiences convention.

I'll miss you, Gary. Thanks so much for filling my childhood with great memories and great friends. You will be missed.

Having been out of the loop for a while... why a 4th edition?

Or is the answer so obviously "money" that I need not even ask?

It's you choice: Either money, as you said, or to fix the ridiculous overly-complex rules and min/maxing that 3rd edition (and 3.5ed) brought to this much loved game.

Just curious, as I said... I've been out of touch for a while. It might be perception, but releasing 3E, then 3.5E, then 4E in pretty close sequence seemed shady.

Then again, the whole WoD relaunch irked me too. "Sorry, we screwed up so we're going to push reset, LOL!"

Well for what it's worth, 3.0 was supposed to last, but they had so many bugs in it that they needed to release 3.5; more or less the 3.0 and 3.5 stuff work together with some cobbling.

All told 3.0 and 3.5 had a good run of it between them. 4th is supposed to keep the good parts of 3.x and scrap the bad, adding in new bits from all over and making D&D easier to learn and get into, but keeping the complexity that it always has had for the more experienced.

For what it's worth you can check out ENWorld, which has a lof the changes to 4e listed, as well as plenty of raging flamewars between those who are converting and those who are not.

This last weekends Con unveiled 4e fully and ENWorld is listing a lot of the info, making it possible to test out a mini-game of 4e now, before it's release in June.

/resumes grieving


Maybe I'll take a look at it. ;-) Thanks. Just sold off all of my old stuff recently.
 
2008-03-04 02:46:37 PM  
Sabalo: Potbreath: I think his heart gave out after seeing what WOTC did to D&D with the recent 4th edition preview at the D&D Experiences convention.

I'll miss you, Gary. Thanks so much for filling my childhood with great memories and great friends. You will be missed.

Having been out of the loop for a while... why a 4th edition?

Or is the answer so obviously "money" that I need not even ask?


Because the best ideas in gaming have moved from bloated rules sets to simplicity and speed of play. The fact that most fans are over 21 and have a life has led to a number of rules light systems that do very well commercially and take enough business away from Wizards of the Cost that D&D is being revised.

Havening been paying attention to D&D 4E I think it will be a refreshing change. From what I've read and seen so far it is going to be simplified, streamlined, and yet somehow seems to have that old school 1st edition feel.

It really is a needed change to put into D&D the best ideas of the last 10 years. Maybe not a needed update, but I think a welcome one.
 
2008-03-04 02:46:51 PM  
IXI Jim IXI: Even Gary has limits...

Well I never said it would be settled they just need a tie breaking vote.

Ok, how much gold can I carry and still cross the river?? A skew it let go for it and hope for 20s!
 
2008-03-04 02:46:54 PM  
browncoatmouse: Sad. Have wasted a lot of my life behind a bunch of dice...but, a great excuse for the group to do some drunk (and later naked) D&D tonight!

(Geek guys always end up the best, and most creative, lovers. They're just so motivated!)



Queue browncoatmouse's profile getting clicked 2000000 times...
 
2008-03-04 02:47:32 PM  
Rest in Peace, Gary.

Remember S3, one of the levels had E.G.G. formed on the map by the walls?

Remember the Drow, he made them as they are now.

Hell, even remember the Gord the Rogue series. Gary wasn't the best author but his stories gave a hint at what his campaigns must have been like: massive in scope and imagination.
 
2008-03-04 02:47:53 PM  
He was an atheist.
He was lucky.
He caused conflict.
He was devoutly aligned.

He never hit with a wielded weapon.
He used no wishes.

He is dead.
 
2008-03-04 02:48:27 PM  
He's slinging dice in the Celestial Heavens now.

/As an aside, my screen name is my first D&D character, half-elf ranger from 2nd.
 
2008-03-04 02:48:28 PM  
People often ask "Who digs Ben?" Well, one less now, apparently

whodigsben.com
 
2008-03-04 02:48:39 PM  
Approves
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2008-03-04 02:48:44 PM  
Grog of Solaris, Half-Orc Bard wishes you a speedy journey to the good-aligned planes, Mr. Gygax.

He salutes you with "Amazing grace" on the pipes.

/RIP
 
2008-03-04 02:48:47 PM  
lokidecat: Can I Have His Stuff?

I LOL'D.

/played AD&D and 2nd Edition from 1980-1992
 
2008-03-04 02:49:28 PM  
lexslamman: altrocks: samimgreen: signine: EVERYBODY, ROLL INITIATIVE

I cast invisibility.

/suck it, fighters

Someone disagrees with you:

I thought we agreed no beholders in this campaign setting...


I can haz kender?

/they never let me play kender im not sure why?
//shiny!!!
 
2008-03-04 02:49:28 PM  
j4s0n: I had a small group of friends who played D&D with me. i have a few books, and had an urge to get into it, but the DM's that played were awful. they gave us tons of experience and magic items. It felt like cheating. That was over 10 years ago. I'd like to find a small group to play with again someday.

We used to rotate DMing. My friend was hardass, his wife was Monty Haul, I was middle-road.

On one adventure when we were high level, we cleared an orc, kobold, and hobgoblin army out of a mountain lair. Then we took over the lair and remodeled it. I think I spent more time working on that lair than I did on all of my college work...
 
2008-03-04 02:49:40 PM  
He's coming back as a arch-Lich with hundreds of hit points. And Watch out, haters, he will not sleep until you have tasted his unholy wrath..

read up 'bout mah Liches, biatches!
 
2008-03-04 02:49:48 PM  
I feel kinda like something is missing.

My old D&D friends from Hs and University are the only ones I have kept in touch with.

I think every RPG should make some note of this since they are all based on his basic game...

Of course the question I have not heard answered is where he is now. Im thinkig Arboria.... nice place not too Lawfull Good to be boring... decent ale.
 
2008-03-04 02:50:17 PM  
semiotix: He was an atheist.
He was lucky.
He caused conflict.
He was devoutly aligned.

He never hit with a wielded weapon.
He used no wishes.

He is dead.


What a hack.
 
2008-03-04 02:50:57 PM  
Gary Gygax: Died on a Tuesday


Gamer with fashion concious sisters, results in gamer that wears Abercrombie and Aero. Can't tell I'm a gamer unless you ask, and I personally keep it on the DL.

Uncle introd me to D&D and I introd it to all of my friends. What amazing times those were. Thank you Gary, I plan to visit your grave and leave you some dice.
 
2008-03-04 02:51:01 PM  
For those looking for online D&D, check out www.openrpg.com and if you search for online D&D campaigns, there are a few decent ones out there. Most have weekly games, at all sorts of times.

Shameless plug alert: check out www.gathis.com
 
2008-03-04 02:51:29 PM  
Ed Greenwood, creator of the Forgotten Realms, is Elminster. Gygax's character was Mordenkainen, a powerful and important wizard in the World of Greyhawk.

home.usit.net
 
2008-03-04 02:51:41 PM  
AD&D is still my favorite all-time rules system. Although Warhammer FRP comes in a close second.

RIP Mr. Gygax.
 
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