He should be happy. He went to Egypt a fat, lazy American, and came back as a supermodel.

At least they didn't give him biatch tits while he was there.

vlakorados: Some Old Geek: I'm going to Egyptland!

"That's berber. It's an industry term."

/Silly Daddy
//you can't eat carpet!

No, of course you can't like that. You gotta boil it, till the glue gets soft, ya know. ...

Obscure 2008-02-27 08:50:05 PM
Sounds shiatty, but I bet you wouldn't trade that experience for anything. It's the worst experiences that are transformative, and they make the best stories, too.

/Chinese curse: May you live in interesting times.

//Or so I'm told. Don't tell me it's not a Chinese saying, 'cause I'm not going to listen.

Did you seriously just say she should be basically glad she got raped?

FTFA: "The 17-year-old"

Idiot.
No sympathy.

At 17 you have enough intelligence to know that not eating is bad for you.

Maybe I should go to Egypt until my wedding... I'm thinking this could be the next Atkins.

JerkyMeat: I'm not an huge fan of our foreign policy, yet at the same time I find most middle eastern cultures and muslim nations, especially the saudis as farking disgusting people worthy of slaughter.

Aaaaaand we have a weiner!! Yet another farking idiot blaming Islam for something which has absolutely NOTHING to do with it. THIS is the reason, LesserEvil, that I put that post up! If I hadn't done so, I can guaran-damn-tee you that the thread would have been FILLED with farkwitted posts just like the one from JerkeyMeat.

BrightEyedFirecat: It seriously sucks losing that much weight because it can be hard to gain it all back, depending. Sometimes your body resets at a lower weight at which it's comfortable, making it way hard to get back to where you were.
I'm 6'5" and I weighed about 162 when I graduated from high school. I got very ill soon after and dropped to the low 120s inside of a month. I yoyoed throughout college and I've never gotten back above 145.

Silly question, perhaps, but have you tried supplements? I normally wouldn't suggest them unless someone's working out, but at 6'5", 145lbs is a bit low.

Unless you're talking Kg; then you'd be a lard ass. (:

RealFarknMcCoy2: Before anyone starts Muslim-bashing in here, the host family were "Coptic Christians"


Thank you for looking out for "our," and Muslim, welfare.

sombreradoraloca: Reading the rest of the article clears up some of these questions you all seem to be perplexed by.

1. Why didn't he just write home for some protein bars?
Answer: Because the exchange program he was in discourages kids and parents from being in contact, claiming it detracts from the immersion experience in "local culture". Don't go crying to Mommy and Daddy if you don't like the food, basically.

There's the spirit of the law and the letter of the law. Sure, he followed the law to the letter, but the point of the law is to immerse the student, not starve them. Gotta have a little common sense to know that and know when to contact someone for help. He obviously could have contacted an authority in the exchange program if his health was in danger.

That's what happens when you eat nothing but fast food.

Beatlefreak: I'd believe it. We've got one of the local fire chiefs living down the street from us. I've asked him, and he says that there are people that they beg to cook and people that they beg not to cook, and the amount of food they eat is extremely large, regardless of the quality. Like most children, I used to want to be a firefigher. Due to health problems, I can't, but I think I would make a mean cook for the firehouse, as I enjoy cooking for large crowds. (and i'm told that my food is very good.)

That's a laugh. It looks like the same problem plagues firefighters all over. The great cook vs. the shiatty cook. Hell, we forcibly removed a guy from the kitchen once and banned him from cooking for at least 6 months.

Unfortunately, I'm stuck in the middle of the road. My food's edible, but nothing to write home about. I've improved though.

I think a lot of the weight gain has to do with what station you're at. If you're busy, you're always burning calories wearing the heavy gear, lugging the heavy equipment, going up and down stairs, ladders and whatever else...If you're at a boring station, all you do is eat, eat, eat, nap and watch TV; unless you're the rookie, then you're the station biatch that has a mandatory 90 minutes PT every shift.

fred_chan: Yeah, because you know how most abuse victims are always saying, "But I wouldn't trade it for anything, because being taken advantage of and abused made me the empowered person I am today."

WTF are you smoking?

Well, the sexual assault by the brother was pretty bad, but otherwise it sounds like just a the kind of bad experience that makes a good story later, not the kind that scars you for life.


Fine line, I guess. But I like most of my bad experiences, because I survived them, and they are good stories. But none of them are truly horrific, as in, then they proceeded to burn me with lit cigarettes while laughing maniacally...

/smoking Marlboro lights, FYI.

Fasting 200 days a year? Sure, Egyptian Coptics are pretty hardcore, even the secular ones. They had to be or they wouldn't have persevered as an undesirable minority.

I worked with a Coptic Christian that while growing up in Egypt had a cross tattooed on his hand as a pretty bold statement of identity. That tat would have been an invitation to further bias and discrimination against him over there. Here in the city it just attracted a couple gang members asking if he was one of them.

It just goes to show, that studying is dangerous.

lfv: Did you seriously just say she should be basically glad she got raped?

I'm starting to think I should go back and read that post again. Maybe I read it too quickly.

McCullum says he was denied sufficient food while staying with a family of Coptic Christians, who fast for more than 200 days a year, a regimen unmatched by other Christians.
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Jesus christ. If you want to be complete idiots and starve yourself for 200 days, that's fine. Don't be complete asses and force it on someone else.

Scroll down to the google ads below the article- 'ten rules losing belly fat'

lol'd a little

/I thought it was funny
//maybe not

Here's your B&A.

voyvf: Silly question, perhaps, but have you tried supplements? I normally wouldn't suggest them unless someone's working out, but at 6'5", 145lbs is a bit low.

Unless you're talking Kg; then you'd be a lard ass. (:

No, I'm talking pounds. I had ulcerative colitis, which is where your immune system starts burning holes in your large intestine, all the way through college. I had to cut almost everything out of my diet to avoid pissing off my immune system, so I was basically eating white rice and white fish and nothing else. I'd take supplements, even get vitamins dripped in intravenously, but when the UC would flare up, I'd drop weight like crazy. One time I dipped below 120. My hair started to fall out and the nerves in my feet got inflamed.
I graduated this June and the doctor said that I had about a year until my large intestine gave out for good, so they cut it out this September, followed by a cleanup surgery in January. At this point I'm recovering from the surgery, so I only weigh about 142, but I'm hoping to put on some weight for the first time in more than four years.

He was given a chance to leave and he didn't want to. He did it to himself, he did, not nobody else.

jimpoz,
Those are two parents who should be starved nearly to death, force-fed with tubes back up to normal weight, then starved again, until they die.

This is just ridiculous. You can eat really well on a dollar or two a day in Egypt, as long as you're not picky. You're telling me his (real) family couldn't spare him an extra $50 a month?

TheQuest35: The guy did stick with it when he had other options and to be honist I really commend him on that. Though it sounds like the host parents were indeed very cheep with him.

I don't commend him at all for that, I feel sorry for him. He was clearly a victim of abuse.

I'd hit it for sure.

BrightEyedFirecat: I graduated this June and the doctor said that I had about a year until my large intestine gave out for good, so they cut it out this September, followed by a cleanup surgery in January. At this point I'm recovering from the surgery, so I only weigh about 142, but I'm hoping to put on some weight for the first time in more than four years.

Does that mean you now have a huge problem with dehydration? From what I remember from high school bio the large intestine basically removed most of the remaining water from the fecal matter.

'So, son, you can stay here with these fasting loonies, or you can go live in a more dangerous part of town. What'll it be?'
'Will I get to eat, in this more dangerous part of town?'
'Probably.'
'Hmm. ....... .... No, I think I'll stay with these fasting loonies here.'

Now I need that animation of the angry-looking guy clapping.

Beatlefreak: I would say ours isn't that busy... in an average day, I hear the sirens once or twice a day. I think the biggest exitement they had is when our house had a gas leak 5 years ago. There were 5 fire trucks, and ambulance, and three police cars. Everything turned out ok though, it was just a small leak. But yes, good cook vs. bad cook will live on anywhere, including in my own family. (My older sister can cook spaghetti and corn from a can, and still often overcooks the spaghetti noodles)

Depends on what those calls are for; Two house fires in a day would be a lot of work...and at least justify eating 2,000+ calories at a meal.

The MOST calls I've had in a 24 hour shift (24 hours on, 72 hours off) was 8. So, an average of a call every 3 hours and they ran the gauntlet - medicals, MVAs, fires, carbon monoxide, patient transport (ie: too big for the two paramedics). Nothing like working during and immediately after a snowstorm.

Either way, send this kid our way for a shift or two. We'll get him back to where he was...if not heavier.

Having gained at least a kilo during each time I go to Egypt (three times so far), I can confirm this story is full of stupid.

feckingmorons: He wasn't kidnpped he was an exchange student. Moran.

You don't have to be kidnapped to have Stockholm Syndrome.

Moran.

This isn't going to turn in to a mock the fat people thread is it?

/not fat, but I uh...wear big pants.

I find it crazy that people still lie when the evidence is so overwhelming.

\\Just sayin...

GoddessPrime: Does that mean you now have a huge problem with dehydration? From what I remember from high school bio the large intestine basically removed most of the remaining water from the fecal matter.

Right now, I do have some problems, so I have to drink a lot of water enhanced with various minerals, but it's amazing the advances they're making in medical procedures these days. The reason I put up with the Ulcerative Colitis for so long was because my doctor at Kaiser told me the only other alternative was getting a colostomy, and I really didn't want to have a bag full of crap hanging off my abdomen for the rest of my life. Due to the crappiness of Kaiser, we switched to a different medical group my senior year and the doctors there were actually competant. So the new procedure they performed on me involved removing the large intestine and turning the end of the small intestine into a replacement called a J-pouch. I had to put up with a bag for three months to allow the J-pouch time to heal up, and then they hooked it up in January. It's supposed to take about six months and then it'll have pretty much taken over the large intestine's function as a water absorber. At that point, I'm supposed to be living pretty much a normal life, eating regular food, and hopefully putting on some weight.

An addendum: I like to buzz my hair short. When I had dropped down to 120 pounds, my mom told me to stop because I looked "like a concentration camp victim."

Railbird3, you made me giggle. And snicker. And now the kitchen sink filling up. I should go fix that.

mamoru: RealFarknMcCoy2: Before anyone starts Muslim-bashing in here, the host family were "Coptic Christians"

I honestly would have been shocked if it had been Muslims. In my experience, they will feed you until you feel like a Monty Python sketch, and even then keep offering you more and more.

It is not easy go get a Muslim family to stop feeding you once you have been invited into their home.

/at least, that's how it was in Morocco

Same for me in Kosovo. I thought they were trying to kill me with incredible, home grown, made from scratch food and chai.

I would question whether this had anything to do with the Coptic faith, and wasn't more just because the family were terrible hosts. Huge generalization here, but the Arabs I've encountered have always emphasized hospitality to a fault, Muslim, Christian or Jew (Jews weren't technically Arabs, but were originally from Morrocco), these guys would go hungry before they'd ever "dishonor" themselves by not feeding a guest, and feeding, and feeding...

BrightEyedFirecat: The reason I put up with the Ulcerative Colitis for so long was because my doctor at Kaiser

Just curious -- what caused that condition in someone so young, and presumably otherwise healthy? Is it genetic?

What a moron, GO HOME!!! How retarded can you be to not realize you're starving to death. I'm sure someone could have helped him get a plane home. Also, he was offered a different place to live.
Idiot. Oh and in response to the Boobies:

DAMN MUSLIMS!!!!!

Obscure: lfv: Did you seriously just say she should be basically glad she got raped?

I'm starting to think I should go back and read that post again. Maybe I read it too quickly.


Don't worry, I think you posted with the best of intentions.

Heffaloo: Well, many of us consider people with Stockholm Syndrome to be stupid.

Yeah. Just like those really stupid people that get cancer... I mean, don't they know how much it's gonna cost em to get rid of it? Idiots.