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(The Earth Times)   Apple's iTunes becomes number two music retailer in the U.S., just behind Wal-Mart. Suck it, haters   (earthtimes.org) divider line 118
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2008-02-26 02:44:52 PM
Apple users are so cute when they try to talk technology.
 
2008-02-26 02:45:08 PM
As far as I can tell, people hate on Apple Computers. Some are completely anti-Apple, sure. Just like people hate MS, and are unwilling to admit when they do something right. But even people who would never touch an AirBook might have an iPod or an iPhone.

I think Apple could make panties and get #2 just behind Victoria's Secret, and it wouldn't phase the Apple haters.
 
2008-02-26 02:47:33 PM
For what it's worth, I have a couple hundred SACDs and a few dozen DVD-Audio titles. I wish those music formats had caught on, too.

I'm not a big fan of lossy downloads in general, and well-mastered multichannel audio is amazing.
 
2008-02-26 02:56:04 PM
blackminded: I know this is going to be hard for you to understand, but you are in the extreme minority of music consumers.

Hard to understand? Fark no, that isn't hard to understand. I was relating my own experiences with the software, and quite honestly, I know others have been less than impressed with iTunes. IMO, Windows Media Player kicks hell out of it for library management, ripping, and playback.

But I full well know I am in the minority of music consumers; I was one of the last ones on the iPod/MP3 bandwagon (just got mine a month and a half ago). I do most of my listening off satellite radio, and I've bought a grand total of 3 CDs in the past 3-4 years. That sure as hell puts me in the minority here. But it doesn't change the fact that iTunes is a poorly thought out piece of software seemingly designed to work best with the iTunes store-purchased music in an effort to limit competition with traditional purchased discs.

As for SACD vs. DVD-Audio, that's a format war that CAN be blamed on Sony, and unfortunately, the rise of digital music downloads killed off what the format war didn't. They do sound better than CDs, but most folks don't have the gear to notice the difference (hell, a bunch of folks can't tell any difference between a 128kbps MP3 and a CD; I think they're deaf), and retailers never really got behind the formats. Combine that with a need for two different players to cover your bases (true universal players were few and far between, and remained too expensive until way too late), and they were hosed.

/Likes high quality music
//Never did the multichannel formats
///Only DVD-A player is in the wife's Acura, and we never bought any discs for it
 
2008-02-26 03:03:02 PM
akula: /Likes high quality music
akula: I do most of my listening off satellite radio

/facepalm
//"32kbps should be good enough for anyone", right?
 
2008-02-26 03:05:17 PM
akula: But it doesn't change the fact that iTunes is a poorly thought out piece of software seemingly designed to work best with the iTunes store-purchased music in an effort to limit competition with traditional purchased discs.

Oh, and, iTunes was designed to work with the iTunes store-purchased music in an effort to limit competition with traditional purchased discs? Really?
Which one came first?

iTunes.
By several years.
 
2008-02-26 03:09:37 PM
akula: Windows Media Player kicks hell out of it for library management, ripping, and playback.

akula: iTunes is a poorly thought out piece of software seemingly designed to work best with the iTunes store-purchased music in an effort to limit competition with traditional purchased discs.

Yeah luckly WMP doesn't try to lock you into any proprietary formats.Oh wait it does.

I love the window menu on it that works like no other Microsoft product in existence. That is great design.

I also love the "validate your copy of windows" that is has you do after upgrade. It so awesome with no lock in. Just validates your OS and sends info to MS.

Yeah thats has so much less crap than itunes.
 
2008-02-26 03:11:05 PM
SacriliciousBeerSwiller: For the life of me I can't figure out why anyone who downloads much music wouldn't go with a subscription-model service so they could download all they wanted.

If you spend more than $15 a month on music, iTunes is utterly retarded.


And if you don't download more than $15 a month worth of music, subscriptions are silly. And then when you cancel service POOF goes the music.
 
2008-02-26 03:13:20 PM
theurge14: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: For the life of me I can't figure out why anyone who downloads much music wouldn't go with a subscription-model service so they could download all they wanted.

If you spend more than $15 a month on music, iTunes is utterly retarded.

And if you don't download more than $15 a month worth of music, subscriptions are silly. And then when you cancel service POOF goes the music.


honest question: can you burn rented songs to a cd?
 
2008-02-26 03:13:27 PM
linoleum knife: The great thing about apple fanatics is when you say that Microsoft is one of the greatest companies in the world as evidenced by it's market dominance you are wrong, but when they say Itunes/ipods are great and point to Apple's dominance they are right.

Yeah, that whole Department of Justice 'abusive monopoly' conviction thing sure is annoying.
 
2008-02-26 03:15:34 PM
voidkat:

I think Apple could make panties and get #2 just behind Victoria's Secret, and it wouldn't phase the Apple haters.


Farkin' Apple Panties. iPanties.

That's awesome.

White with the little black apple down and to the left by the snatch.

No frills. Just cotton goodness and a nice warm gash underneath.

Just awesome.
 
2008-02-26 03:17:10 PM
FlashHarry: honest question: can you burn rented songs to a cd?

Rhapsody To Go is also a paid subscription at $14.99 per month. This option offers the same features as Rhapsody Unlimited plus the downloading of unlimited selections to computers without purchasing songs on a per-track basis. Users are not permitted to burn the tracks to CD, but they can be transferred to compatible PlaysForSure portable devices like the SanDisk Sansa e200R series.

Nope.
 
2008-02-26 03:18:49 PM
remnant: No frills. Just cotton goodness and a nice warm gash underneath.

Nah, they'd be the thinnest, sheerest panties ever, and allow access to new ports that most end users have never even dreamed of.

/"you can't see it, but it's there. You just gotta believe."
 
2008-02-26 03:44:42 PM
Suck what exactly? ITunes is a crap bit of badly written software and I would install Windows before I ran that shiat. I buy my music for a reasonable price and in a format I can actually use. Why would I suck Steve Jobs' cock to buy a record. I could not stand having to show up on sites like that having to justify my decision.
 
2008-02-26 03:48:12 PM
Huxley71:
DRM in my iTunes?

(Ummm... you guys who are whining about the DRM know that it's easily removed without any loss of music quality, right?)

Google QTFairUse.


If you're going to break the law anyway, you might as well just download the music for free via BitTorrent. Why pay $ if you're still putting your neck on the line?
 
2008-02-26 03:55:23 PM
Well, if you're using iTunes Plus tracks, pretty sure those convert to MP3 right within iTunes (or WAV). iTunes definitely allows you to convert anything non-DRMed within the app itself. Pretty easy. Few clicks.

DRMed tracks can be converted as well -- stick in a CD, burn it, re-rip it as MP3. Heck, my pop's 59, mostly watches TV all the time, and he figured that out on his own.

Video? Yeah, that takes more effort. Personally I just buy DVDs on sale or from Amazon, and use Handbrake to make them iPod friendly or usable on whatever PMP or media extender you prefer. Worst case, the originals are all sitting in a cardboard box in the closet so they're not cluttering up the living room.
 
2008-02-26 03:56:17 PM
Theaetetus: akula: /Likes high quality music
akula: I do most of my listening off satellite radio

/facepalm
//"32kbps should be good enough for anyone", right?


The reason I listen to sat radio is for the variety. At home I like the high quality stuff, but a car is a pretty crappy place for quality audio. There's a difference in what I listen to when I have my head in my Sennheiser HD580s and when I'm sitting in traffic with some punk who loaded down his shiatbox with subwoofers right next to me.

Theaetetus: akula: But it doesn't change the fact that iTunes is a poorly thought out piece of software seemingly designed to work best with the iTunes store-purchased music in an effort to limit competition with traditional purchased discs.

Oh, and, iTunes was designed to work with the iTunes store-purchased music in an effort to limit competition with traditional purchased discs? Really?
Which one came first?

iTunes.
By several years.


I have no idea what you're saying. All I said was that iTunes has a pretty clunky interface, and sarcastically added that some folks might think that it was to encourage use of the iTunes store over ripped music. Change the batteries in your sarcasm detector.

Corvus: Yeah luckly WMP doesn't try to lock you into any proprietary formats.Oh wait it does.

I love the window menu on it that works like no other Microsoft product in existence. That is great design.

I also love the "validate your copy of windows" that is has you do after upgrade. It so awesome with no lock in. Just validates your OS and sends info to MS.

Yeah thats has so much less crap than itunes.


Funny, I have WMP set to rip CDs automatically to a 320kbps MP3. Hardly proprietary. The UI isn't bad, it's no worse than iTunes, where adding album art to tracks is a painful process that is incompletely done at best. You just can't do it in iTunes, but in WMP, it's a piece of cake. As for Windows validation, fark it; it's never given me a moment's trouble, but then, I've never tried running pirated copies of Windows. For my purposes, WMP manages a library better than iTunes. Rip a CD under one user account in WMP into a music folder, and the other users (who also config WMP to use that folder) see it automatically. In iTunes you have to add each new album (folder) manually; that's a real pain in the ass, and only a programmer ignorant of multiple user accounts would have thought of it.

iTunes was designed by somebody who doesn't understand that multiple people might share one computer, using multiple logins, but only using one music library. That's easier to do under WMP, but since the iPod won't play nice with WMP, you have to use iTunes or a third party app (I tried MediaMonkey, but it didn't work so well, I'm open to suggestions).

iTunes is pretty damned far from an ideal media management program on the Windows platform, especially, when in some ways WMP kicks its ass five ways from Sunday. If Apple is so much better than MS, there's no reason for that suckage. They can do it better, they just don't.

Meh, maybe I need to give MediaMonkey another try.
 
2008-02-26 04:02:28 PM
akula: Funny, I have WMP set to rip CDs automatically to a 320kbps MP3. Hardly proprietary.

you can do that in itunes. might even be the default.

The UI isn't bad, it's no worse than iTunes, where adding album art to tracks is a painful process that is incompletely done at best.

personal anecdote, sure, but i just clicked "get album art" and it retrieved it for all but 20 somewhat odd german tracks.

You just can't do it in iTunes, but in WMP, it's a piece of cake.

two clicks in itunes, like i said.

As for Windows validation, fark it; it's never given me a moment's trouble, but then, I've never tried running pirated copies of Windows.

-

For my purposes, WMP manages a library better than iTunes.

good. use whatever tool you like.

Rip a CD under one user account in WMP into a music folder, and the other users (who also config WMP to use that folder) see it automatically. In iTunes you have to add each new album (folder) manually; that's a real pain in the ass, and only a programmer ignorant of multiple user accounts would have thought of it.

for my purposes itunes does just fine here via shared libraries - i can simply RO access the other user's library, without having to do more than two clicks.


akula: iTunes is pretty damned far from an ideal media management program on the Windows platform, especially, when in some ways WMP kicks its ass five ways from Sunday. If Apple is so much better than MS, there's no reason for that suckage. They can do it better, they just don't.

LOTS, and i do mean lots, of people prefer how itunes handles things. you prefer wmp. so just use that. it does not, however, validate anybody else's preferences.
 
2008-02-26 04:19:58 PM
akula: iTunes was designed by somebody who doesn't understand that multiple people might share one computer, using multiple logins, but only using one music library.

O rly? Just move the library and pointers to
/Users/Shared/Music/iTunes/
or, do what I do, which is put it on an external drive, visible to all users (easier to RAID that way... I've spent too goddamn long ripping in DVDs to do it all again on a hard drive crash).

Don't Windows users understand that you don't have to keep everything in "My Documents"?
 
2008-02-26 04:30:20 PM
likefunbutnot: I listen to Classical music. iTMS's Classical selection is approximately the same and of the same quality as that of the "Tape World" in my local mall. There's less than zero reason for me to use it. Amazon is much better in that department.

I listen to a lot of older indie stuff, jazz and old country and blues and whatnot, and iTunes is absolute shiat for that. Even if I wanted to get buttraped and pay a dollar a song for low bitrate MP3s, I'd be out of luck with them and their ever-increasing bloatware iPod users have to use because most of them don't have any idea they can just use the farking thing as a drive.

I use etunes.com for legal downloads, these days. Tons of old stuff that I like, people like Harvey Pekar doing music writing for them, and best of all, the subscription works out to a quarter a song. Which is exactly what I will pay for a low bitrate copy. Apple's model makes you pay enough that if you're getting a whole record, you'd really be better off buying the CD and ripping it.
 
2008-02-26 04:56:17 PM
hahaha

yeah, keep buying that b.s. and see where you are in 5 years with it.

/lolz from a "hater"
 
2008-02-26 04:56:40 PM
akula:
*ring ring*I think WMP called, and asked you to get off of their jock. Apple fan boys are bad, but I am glad that there are no rabid MS fans in my world. iTunes isn't that hard to use, if it was apple wouldn't make money, remember uneducated masses and what not. So if the rest of the world can use it that means: either you are incredibly dumb, or so smart that it is somehow below your superior brain.
/I typed this really slowly so you would be able to keep up, so you can assume I believe the former.
 
2008-02-26 05:19:09 PM
Theaetetus: You're comparing 128kbps MP3s to a 9.6Mbps DVD-A... for download?

/facepalm


Not for download. Just for music sales in general. Downloading MP3s took enough sales away from CDs that the market for a new optical audio disc just couldn't take hold especially with there being a format war. So cheap and low quality beat expensive and high quality for which way the industry would move. We're seeing it now in mastering and production.
 
2008-02-26 05:23:59 PM
This just in:

Tiger Woods is good at golf.
 
2008-02-26 05:27:08 PM
likefunbutnot: Corvus: ITUNES SALES sells DRM-LESS MUSIC!!!

Or, you can buy anything you want from the Amazon MP3 store without having to use shiatty Apple software and shiatty Apple file formats.


Well, for one Amazon's MP3 store carries a fraction of what the iTunes store carries, even if you just count the DRM-free iTunes Plus tracks. Second of all, 'shiatty Apple file format' like MPEG-4? You are aware that 'AAC' doesn't stand for Apple Audio Codec, right?
 
2008-02-26 05:27:58 PM
FlashHarry: theurge14: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: For the life of me I can't figure out why anyone who downloads much music wouldn't go with a subscription-model service so they could download all they wanted.

If you spend more than $15 a month on music, iTunes is utterly retarded.

And if you don't download more than $15 a month worth of music, subscriptions are silly. And then when you cancel service POOF goes the music.

honest question: can you burn rented songs to a cd?


I don't buy or use CDs anymore, so I don't know.
 
2008-02-26 05:28:22 PM
Itunes?

www.the-next-wave-ezine.info
FTW

www.drownedinsound.com
R.I.P
 
2008-02-26 05:46:06 PM
kungfu jesus with a side of lime: Apple fan boys are bad, but I am glad that there are no rabid MS fans in my world.

I've honestly only known one, ever, and that was when I was working at MS, and everybody else in my group thought he was a little weird. Most of the other designers (besides me, I mean) there used Macs.

/The fight's all on the Apple side
 
2008-02-26 05:48:59 PM
theurge14:
And if you don't download more than $15 a month worth of music, subscriptions are silly. And then when you cancel service POOF goes the music.


Uh, no. My emusic downloads are mine forever, and I can download everything I buy there again anytime I want, anywhere I want and as many times as I want.

So yeah, I'll pay a quarter a song for that. A dollar's idiotic, especially for less.
 
2008-02-26 05:51:16 PM
And BTW, I do spend more than $15 dollars a month on music downloads. It doesn't really matter what I spend, though, because no matter what, I'd still get four or five albums a month for that same fifteen dollars that'd get me one album from Apple, with way more restrictions.
 
2008-02-26 05:51:31 PM
FlatusJones: theurge14:
And if you don't download more than $15 a month worth of music, subscriptions are silly. And then when you cancel service POOF goes the music.

Uh, no. My emusic downloads are mine forever, and I can download everything I buy there again anytime I want, anywhere I want and as many times as I want.

So yeah, I'll pay a quarter a song for that. A dollar's idiotic, especially for less.


Sorry, I forgot about eMusic. But unfortunately so did the big labels. Don't get me wrong, I like alot of music on their service, but I also like music on the Big 4.
 
2008-02-26 05:53:45 PM
Step one: Subscribe To Yahoo Music

Step Two: Record Streaming Audio and burn to disc. (sounds good enough) Jet Audio FTW!!!

Step Three: ????

Step Four: Who Profits?
 
2008-02-26 05:59:44 PM
Amazon

That is all
 
2008-02-26 06:09:04 PM
akula: Funny, I have WMP set to rip CDs automatically to a 320kbps MP3.

What a gigantic waste of hard drive space.

If you're going to use up that much hard drive space, then use a lossless format.

If you're going to also use those songs on a portable player, then use lower bitrate in VBR. If you have to use MP3, then go with 192 VBR. If you have AAC you can knock it down to 128 VBR.

But pick one or the other. 320k MP3 accomplishes neither portable storage or superior sound.
 
2008-02-26 06:26:35 PM
justinsmith354: Step Four: Who Profits?

It sounds like you do.
 
2008-02-26 06:35:21 PM
Oakenshield: ogg vorbis

Woot half my collection is .. and plays on my little Sandisk Salsa e260(though to be honest I use rockbox on the player, linux on my laptop)

/nerd
//doesn't live in his moms basement.
///has seen gilds before.. BARE NAKED even!

theurge14: If you're going to also use those songs on a portable player, then use lower bitrate in VBR. If you have to use MP3, then go with 192 VBR. If you have AAC you can knock it down to 128 VBR.

For filesize yes, VBR over CBR, if you got crap headphones who cares.. quality wise that I'm not so sure of, I don't need extra compression in quiet bits of my songs, to make them sound quieter.
 
2008-02-26 06:36:21 PM
ChronicallyCanuk: ///has seen gilds girls before.. BARE NAKED even!

Listen kids .. Don't smoke and type.
 
2008-02-26 06:39:32 PM
To answer a question way up top, The RIAA, and the Major Record Labels, hate Apple with a passion.

This is simply about control: Apple controls the distribution of pretty much ALL of the digital music in the world. The labels want the control for themselves, because then they get to control the pricing and the terms of sales, and they'd have much better control over the artists. But they made a bad choice, way back when, and now Jobs is in control.

They've tried several times to unseat Apple, but so far, nothing has worked. Re-negotiation, pull outs, boycotts, those didn't work.

Now they're letting Amazon sell non-DRM tracks, just to try to wrest control from Apple. So far, it isn't working.

Without Apple, we'd all be renting music from Microsoft. No sales ever. And Microsoft would be perfectly happy to charge just a little bit more than whatever the RIAA told them to, and to allow each and every label to dictate the prices and terms of rentals. Hannah Montanna tracks would be free, but you'd have to pay a penny every time you listened. ASIA would have their entire back catalog available for $49.95, but you have to buy the ENTIRE CATALOC.

Up until about 5 years ago, the Major Record Labels owned airplay and distribution. Without both of them, there's a one-in-a-million chance that you'll sell more than 500 copies of your record. Probably the last record to do that was a rap act, and their label sold out to the majors within seconds of that. Whatever the cost, it was worth it, to maintain the cartel.

Now, with iTunes and the Internet, there's a much greater chance you can get a break. Anybody can put a tune on iTunes (almost), and therefore ANYONE can get a copy of your record, instantly. All you have to do is find a way to make people WANT to buy it.

Since the Majors still own airplay, that's hard, but we've had a few minor successes via YouTube and TV commercials and other web sites. In most cases, the Majors will simply buy up the band, give them a good payday, and if they have a really really good agent/lawyer, a non-standard record contract that allows them to actually keep some of their profits.

But maybe, just maybe, this can crack the cartel.
 
2008-02-26 06:49:19 PM
entropic_existence: Weaver95: I wonder what RIAA thinks about iTunes?

Pretty sure they get their cut off of iTunes but I doubt they are that happy with it's business model since they can't reap their huge cuts from over priced full albums from crappy artists pushed out solely to make them money.


haineux: To answer a question way up top, The RIAA, and the Major Record Labels, hate Apple with a passion.


For a decent grasp of the Record Labels side, check out this speech by Paul McGuinness(Pdf). Basically, Apple refuses to play ball with how the Major labels really want things to work and the record labels are too stupid to properly capitalize on the new market.
 
2008-02-26 06:52:58 PM
KoolerThanJesus: morgankingrocks
Apparently, you don't know how it works. Itunes pays a price from the labels to resell a song. That price is determined by the label. The label sets that price based on thier costs and profit margins. Those costs, DING DING DING, include RIAA membership fees.

Not quite - if you read this thread half the posts here act as though the RIAA is getting rich off of iTunes, which is absurd - the big record companies were already paying the RIAA - they are a salaried company in retention by the labels. Sure, some of the label profits from iTunes will go to paying them, but it's hardly a direct corollary.

/works for a record label
 
2008-02-26 07:00:10 PM
theurge14: But pick one or the other. 320k MP3 accomplishes neither portable storage or superior sound.

The sound is just fine, and I'm not re-ripping an entire library. The NAS drive is a full terabyte, so I've got space to burn.

Theaetetus: Don't Windows users understand that you don't have to keep everything in "My Documents"?

Not kept there, never was. I've never found iTunes to automatically add jack to the library. Maybe it will, but I'll be farked if I've found it. If I rip a new CD, I have to manually add it to my library, even if it is kept in the same overall folder. Then each user has to add it. If there's a way to do this automatically, by all means let me know.

kungfu jesus with a side of lime: *ring ring*I think WMP called, and asked you to get off of their jock. Apple fan boys are bad, but I am glad that there are no rabid MS fans in my world. iTunes isn't that hard to use, if it was apple wouldn't make money, remember uneducated masses and what not. So if the rest of the world can use it that means: either you are incredibly dumb, or so smart that it is somehow below your superior brain.
/I typed this really slowly so you would be able to keep up, so you can assume I believe the former.


What the fark? You seem to have the attitude of a 13 year old. My point was that iTunes in some ways is inferior, and that is an attitude shared by others in this thread. Or are you so much of an Apple fanboy that you can't admit that everything they do isn't 100% perfect? I think your post made everybody in the thread dumber.

zn0k: personal anecdote, sure, but i just clicked "get album art" and it retrieved it for all but 20 somewhat odd german tracks.

I tried that, but it seems like iTunes only gets album are for albums that are in the iTunes library. After adding the art manually to everything in there, it still doesn't transfer that album art over to the iPod for every song; one song in the album will have it, the rest won't. Kinda makes the cover flow thing look stupid when half of the albums are the generic eighth notes. Again, maybe I did it wrong; I'll give it another shot.

Keep in mind that many streaming devices run off the WMP library info, not iTunes (well, you could use the AppleTV, but I paid a megashiatload for my Denon 3808 receiver for that ability; I'm not shelling out for a limited use device like the ATV). My network-enabled receiver will play DRM free AAC files (of which I have none), but it needs to be pointed to a library created via WMP, so that's how I did my ripping. Personally, I found iTunes to be a real pain to set up, since Apple has their own way of doing things. If you aren't into their way, or aren't used to it, their stuff is incredibly obtuse. My familiarity with Apple's way ended at about System 8.1.
 
2008-02-26 07:09:51 PM
akula: Theaetetus: Don't Windows users understand that you don't have to keep everything in "My Documents"?

Not kept there, never was. I've never found iTunes to automatically add jack to the library. Maybe it will, but I'll be farked if I've found it. If I rip a new CD, I have to manually add it to my library, even if it is kept in the same overall folder. Then each user has to add it. If there's a way to do this automatically, by all means let me know


img211.imageshack.us

Make sure you have these checked in Preferences. That's how.
 
2008-02-26 07:12:15 PM
akula: I tried that, but it seems like iTunes only gets album are for albums that are in the iTunes library. After adding the art manually to everything in there, it still doesn't transfer that album art over to the iPod for every song; one song in the album will have it, the rest won't. Kinda makes the cover flow thing look stupid when half of the albums are the generic eighth notes. Again, maybe I did it wrong; I'll give it another shot.

Meh. I tried this feature once and found out it doesn't save the artwork in the song file itself but keeps them in some sort of metadata location.

I think it's better to go find the artwork yourself. This website is a great place for high quality album covers, but they don't have everything. I start there though, and after that I check Amazon to see if there's a good quality customer upload of it. And if that fails, a GIS.
 
2008-02-26 07:20:22 PM
theurge14: Make sure you have these checked in Preferences. That's how.

Thanks. Hopefully that will get it done.
 
2008-02-26 08:04:12 PM
T.rex: This Is Necessar
I have a Sony MD player. Suck it, fanboys.

i had to do a search to figure out MD stands for minidisc. You may as well have been trying to promote 8track in your post. Thats not a technology anybody uses, except for you.

An ipod can play an uncompressed song just as easily as anything else. It depends how you acquired it/encoded it, which makes the difference in how it sounds,... plus a good pair of headphones.


Sadly for you and the other fanboys, MD is still a widely-used media in Europe, and it always was (as it was relatively unheard of in the US). The comparison is not in compression ratio and encoding because--I guarantee you--MD can out-compress and out-encode Apple products. The comparison is more like that between tapes and CD. Or tapes and LPs. Or 8-tracks, as you so expertly put it.

The sound quality of an iPod, while decent enough for the average listener, DOES NOT compare to that of even a medium-to-low quality MD player. Period. I guess it doesn't matter if you're rocking out to Britney Spears on your way to class, though.

My MD player doesn't have to be sent to Japan to have a battery replaced, either, which is probably a good thing since, according to you, I'm the only person in the world who uses it.

Typical, myopic fanboy behavior. Have fun with that.
 
2008-02-26 08:06:32 PM
morgankingrock

Oh totally. Itunes paying RIAA directly.. no way. But to say the price of a tune is not affected by the label's fee to the RIAA is incorrect as well.
 
2008-02-26 08:09:32 PM
This Is Necessary: The sound quality of an iPod, while decent enough for the average listener, DOES NOT compare to that of even a medium-to-low quality MD player. Period. I guess it doesn't matter if you're rocking out to Britney Spears on your way to class, though.

I was really big into MD back in the late 90s -- even had a voice activated Sony MD deck in my car. But to say MD has better sound quality than an iPod is somthing I would have to disagree with fully. ATRAC encoding always produced terrible artifacts on recordings.
 
2008-02-26 08:09:54 PM
Limewire is #1, right?
 
2008-02-26 08:22:01 PM
boothboy007: I forgot that a general opinion was fact. I mean honestly, when in the course of history have people in large groups made an intelligent, informed decision?

Yet so many people out there trumpet "democracy" as the bees' knees of political systems.
 
2008-02-26 08:47:51 PM
I miss OINK.
 
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