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2008-02-25 10:17:28 PM
touch my pee pee!
 
2008-02-25 10:18:07 PM
I find myself becoming more drug resistant...
 
2008-02-25 10:18:44 PM
It's OK to overuse antibiotics. There are too many people anyway.
 
2008-02-25 10:19:24 PM
and triclosan is everywhere now
 
2008-02-25 10:19:46 PM
Who doesn't know this? In 50 more years or so, we'll hear that we're overusing childhood vaccines.

My father, at the age of 51, just developed an allergy to penicillin. Developed an allergy. You know, to something that was miraculous and life saving.
 
2008-02-25 10:21:01 PM
And STOP USING ANTIBACTERIAL STUFF, everyone! Your body NEEDS germs. They build ANTIBODIES.

I know it's trendy and hip for your kid to have a bunch of "allergies," but you're not doing your snowflake a service by hiding him/her from germs on the grocery cart.

Ktnx.
 
2008-02-25 10:21:15 PM
FTA:All the patients failed to recognize loved ones, had stopped speaking, were unable to walk or feed themselves and were incontinent

AND, they were carrying superbugs. HOLY MOTHER. Call in Master Chief, Solid Snake, whoever. Those are farking ZOMBIES.
 
2008-02-25 10:23:22 PM
It goes both ways. With my previous Dr., I had to bleeding from the eyes to get any antibiotics. I switched to a new Dr who will tell me to go home and treat it with chicken soup and rest but when it needs antibiotics, he prescribes real antibotics, not that amoxicillin crap that's like Tic-Tacs, always has been, always will be.
 
2008-02-25 10:24:01 PM
llewyrr: Who doesn't know this? In 50 more years or so, we'll hear that we're overusing childhood vaccines.

My father, at the age of 51, just developed an allergy to penicillin. Developed an allergy. You know, to something that was miraculous and life saving.


Yeah... I've had that since I was like 2. Thankfully, there are plenty of other antibiotics that still... oh, crap.
 
2008-02-25 10:24:55 PM
We've known this since the 1940s, at least. If people are really concerned about bacteria, use silver, it kills everything. It's still used to treat burn victims for example. Too bad about the argyria though.
 
2008-02-25 10:25:50 PM
Doctor: "Advanced dementia is a terminal illness"

Translation: "Cocaine is a helluva drug"
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2008-02-25 10:26:01 PM
kilgorn: I find myself becoming more drug resistant...

the trick is to find a dozen or so different drugs which you can work in rotation.

Like: weed ----> Percocet ------> Valium ------> mushrooms------> etc.
 
2008-02-25 10:26:31 PM
itsfullofstars: It goes both ways. With my previous Dr., I had to bleeding from the eyes to get any antibiotics. I switched to a new Dr who will tell me to go home and treat it with chicken soup and rest but when it needs antibiotics, he prescribes real antibotics, not that amoxicillin crap that's like Tic-Tacs, always has been, always will be.

WTF? Amoxicillin works great for me. But then, I don't take antibiotics unless I've got bacterial pneumonia.

NEWSFLASH: Antibiotics don't cure viruses.

That is all.

www.cdc.gov
 
2008-02-25 10:26:42 PM
llewyrr: Who doesn't know this? In 50 more years or so, we'll hear that we're overusing childhood vaccines.

My father, at the age of 51, just developed an allergy to penicillin. Developed an allergy. You know, to something that was miraculous and life saving.


Penicillin destroies brain tissue if it gets there...it's not benevolent, it just doesn't end up in the places where it would get fatal.
 
2008-02-25 10:27:06 PM
FTFA:

a provocative new study suggests that antibiotics are overused in people dying of dementia diseases and should be considered more carefully because of the growing problem of drug-resistant superbugs

No subby, someone thought we needed a study on how to stop over-using antibiotics.

/we don't need antibiotic-tainted soylent green
 
2008-02-25 10:27:27 PM
itsfullofstars: It goes both ways. With my previous Dr., I had to bleeding from the eyes to get any antibiotics. I switched to a new Dr who will tell me to go home and treat it with chicken soup and rest but when it needs antibiotics, he prescribes real antibotics, not that amoxicillin crap that's like Tic-Tacs, always has been, always will be.

Huh? Sounds like you need your meds there kiddo.
 
2008-02-25 10:27:30 PM
Because if your grandma is a drooling incontinent mess, why save her life? Just let her die from a treatable disease, because god knows someone else might need the antibiotic to kill some germ later on.
 
2008-02-25 10:27:31 PM
Can't wait to read a similar study ten years from now about the overuse of Tamiflu and other antiviral drugs.
 
2008-02-25 10:30:05 PM
Is this why my butt's on fire?
 
2008-02-25 10:30:15 PM
www.ovnow.com
 
2008-02-25 10:33:47 PM
they may be right,
but as someone getting over strep throat, i am Very glad they have them. i really did not enjoy my 102 fever and pus pockets on the back of my throat.
yeah for penicillin
 
2008-02-25 10:34:02 PM
itsfullofstars: not that amoxicillin crap that's like Tic-Tacs, always has been, always will be.

Sorry, but I remember when amoxicillin would clear up a sinus infection without problem. Then they had to add clavulanic acid to help with the resistant strains. These days, yes, amoxicillin is basically as good as tic-tacs, but it didn't start out that way.

Arthur Jumbles: Can't wait to read a similar study ten years from now about the overuse of Tamiflu and other antiviral drugs.

LOL WUT?
 
2008-02-25 10:34:16 PM
southaustin: And STOP USING ANTIBACTERIAL STUFF, everyone! Your body NEEDS germs. They build ANTIBODIES.

Best advice I got was to keep my kid away from the antibacterial stuff, except when absolutely necessary.

Let 'em eat dirt. It's good for them. He's 6 and has had to take antibiotics once for an ear infection. The parents down the street that practically dipped their snowflakes in that antibacterial hand wash stuff several times a day live at the pediatrician.

Hospitals need to be germ free, homes do not.
 
2008-02-25 10:34:48 PM
ntrino: pus pockets

That sounds like a delicious microwavable treat from Hormel.
 
2008-02-25 10:35:17 PM
They put it in feed, I've heard, 'cause it improves feedlot efficiency, for some reason.
 
2008-02-25 10:35:31 PM
It is getting harder to find non antibacterial soaps anymore, well beyond the standard sodium dodecyl sulfate, but I hardly think that is the problem.
 
2008-02-25 10:35:32 PM
Barakku:
Penicillin destroys brain tissue if it gets there...it's not benevolent, it just doesn't end up in the places where it would get fatal.


Citation needed.

How would an inhibitor of bacterial peptidoglycan cell wall biosynthesis destroy brain cells?
 
2008-02-25 10:36:57 PM
itsfullofstars: southaustin: And STOP USING ANTIBACTERIAL STUFF, everyone! Your body NEEDS germs. They build ANTIBODIES.

Best advice I got was to keep my kid away from the antibacterial stuff, except when absolutely necessary.

Let 'em eat dirt. It's good for them. He's 6 and has had to take antibiotics once for an ear infection. The parents down the street that practically dipped their snowflakes in that antibacterial hand wash stuff several times a day live at the pediatrician.

Hospitals need to be germ free, homes do not.


Hospitals are less germ free than that dirt your kids ate.

/And aren't as tasty
//Save for the burn victims
 
2008-02-25 10:37:13 PM
I haven't been sick in over two years. I was prescribed some a few weeks ago to prevent an infection due to some dental work I had done. (A sensible precaution) However, it made me sick as a dog. Major, major GI issues for nearly two weeks. My dad and younger brother who are doctors told me afterwards that they were a bit concerned there for a while.
 
2008-02-25 10:38:54 PM
Barakku: llewyrr: Who doesn't know this? In 50 more years or so, we'll hear that we're overusing childhood vaccines.

My father, at the age of 51, just developed an allergy to penicillin. Developed an allergy. You know, to something that was miraculous and life saving.

Penicillin destroies brain tissue if it gets there...it's not benevolent, it just doesn't end up in the places where it would get fatal.


Penicllin and many of the beta-lactams can cross the blood-brain barrier and into the brain relatively easily.
 
2008-02-25 10:40:05 PM
The Cornballer: Barakku: llewyrr: Who doesn't know this? In 50 more years or so, we'll hear that we're overusing childhood vaccines.

My father, at the age of 51, just developed an allergy to penicillin. Developed an allergy. You know, to something that was miraculous and life saving.

Penicillin destroies brain tissue if it gets there...it's not benevolent, it just doesn't end up in the places where it would get fatal.i>

...and, to the best of my knowledge, it causes no problems in the brain.
 
2008-02-25 10:41:32 PM
Born to Die: Barakku:
Penicillin destroys brain tissue if it gets there...it's not benevolent, it just doesn't end up in the places where it would get fatal.

Citation needed.

How would an inhibitor of bacterial peptidoglycan cell wall biosynthesis destroy brain cells?


Our microbes professor said it does something to that effect, I could ask him, but the thread will be over by tomorrow morning.
 
2008-02-25 10:41:49 PM
Oops. Unexpected italics. I should use the preview function.
 
2008-02-25 10:42:32 PM
Yeah, I have a nice infection in my toe from an ingrown toenail, and the antibiotics they gave me are these big things with a name thats huge and no one recognizes.
 
2008-02-25 10:44:15 PM
Every time I see one of those commercials where someone's snowflake comes in from the yard covered in giant neon germs, I want to punch a soccer mom.
 
2008-02-25 10:46:06 PM
Tarkus31: Yeah, I have a nice infection in my toe from an ingrown toenail, and the antibiotics they gave me are these big things with a name thats huge and no one recognizes.

Puncture with a needle (sterile, even if heated from a lighter), soak your foot in a bath of warm water and epson salt, apply neosporin and a bandage. Repeat as needed.
 
2008-02-25 10:54:41 PM
llewyrr: Who doesn't know this? In 50 more years or so, we'll hear that we're overusing childhood vaccines.

My father, at the age of 51, just developed an allergy to penicillin. Developed an allergy. You know, to something that was miraculous and life saving.


I think penicillan allergies are quite common and not a sign of impending doom. Every medical questionaire I've seen said "are you allergic to any medications (penicillin etc)?

Antibiotics are toxins that are happen to be not very toxic to humans. Sometimes your body decides otherwise.
 
2008-02-25 10:55:32 PM
I'd give it a shot.
 
2008-02-25 10:57:47 PM
Barakku: Penicillin destroies brain tissue if it gets there...it's not benevolent, it just doesn't end up in the places where it would get fatal.

Boy, I hope not, considering it's commonly used to treat meningococcal meningitis.
 
2008-02-25 10:57:58 PM
We are a small colony of MRSA, so we are really getting a kick out of these replies.
 
2008-02-25 10:59:31 PM
I'm an antibiotic so I'm getting a kick out of these responses.
 
2008-02-25 11:00:11 PM
Personally, for any exterior cuts and infections, I'm a big fan of cleaning it out and applying something unpleasant such as wine, high % alcohol, vinegar or if I've got it some antibacterial goop.

I treat skin rashes like that too: soak in vinegar, then cheap nasty wine, or alcohol. Anything that smells toxic that I can safely eat. Then wash and repeat. Stings like a motherfarker but seems to clear it up. I call it the scorched earth approach to hygiene.
 
2008-02-25 11:00:34 PM
chewielouie: I haven't been sick in over two years. I was prescribed some a few weeks ago to prevent an infection due to some dental work I had done. (A sensible precaution) However, it made me sick as a dog. Major, major GI issues for nearly two weeks. My dad and younger brother who are doctors told me afterwards that they were a bit concerned there for a while.

Check out probiotics, it could have helped....too bad it is taking the US years to catch up with European countries when it comes to "alternative medicines".

Link (new window)
 
2008-02-25 11:01:00 PM
kidsizedcoffin: Tarkus31: Yeah, I have a nice infection in my toe from an ingrown toenail, and the antibiotics they gave me are these big things with a name thats huge and no one recognizes.

Puncture with a needle (sterile, even if heated from a lighter), soak your foot in a bath of warm water and epson salt, apply neosporin and a bandage. Repeat as needed.


Until you get another infection from the various open wounds and oozing bits, in constant contact with nasty foot sweat, etc.?

Just go to a toe-doc and have him rip the whole thing out.

Unless you're seriously septic with your big toe, it shouldn't be a big deal. I've had a couple dozen infections, and had the nail ripped out 2-3 times.
 
2008-02-25 11:07:04 PM
I was put in daycare at the ripe old age of 6 months and am told I caught a cold or sickness once a week. I played outside in the dirt and mud, cut myself, skinned my knee, I was a kid and I rarely was given antibiotics. Today, I get sick maybe once a year even as I watch the rest of campus come down with the plague. I have never had the flu and my seasonal allergies are a week long at best. So to parents: let your kids get sick, let them eat dirt, let them hurt themselves, they will thank you later.
 
2008-02-25 11:13:08 PM
kroonermanblack: kidsizedcoffin: Tarkus31: Yeah, I have a nice infection in my toe from an ingrown toenail, and the antibiotics they gave me are these big things with a name thats huge and no one recognizes.

Puncture with a needle (sterile, even if heated from a lighter), soak your foot in a bath of warm water and epson salt, apply neosporin and a bandage. Repeat as needed.

Until you get another infection from the various open wounds and oozing bits, in constant contact with nasty foot sweat, etc.?

Just go to a toe-doc and have him rip the whole thing out.

Unless you're seriously septic with your big toe, it shouldn't be a big deal. I've had a couple dozen infections, and had the nail ripped out 2-3 times.


I don't get that bad, I get maybe 4 or 5 a year, usually a combined effort of some very sharp needles, my swat knife, and some disinfectants, everything clears up within a week. I've never had to have the nail/matrix removed, at least not from an infection, only from getting smashed by a ladder.
 
2008-02-25 11:15:25 PM
cbecker333: chewielouie: I haven't been sick in over two years. I was prescribed some a few weeks ago to prevent an infection due to some dental work I had done. (A sensible precaution) However, it made me sick as a dog. Major, major GI issues for nearly two weeks. My dad and younger brother who are doctors told me afterwards that they were a bit concerned there for a while.

Check out probiotics, it could have helped....too bad it is taking the US years to catch up with European countries when it comes to "alternative medicines".

Link (new window)


The Lancet (big European medical journal) recently published an article showing that probiotics worsened mortality of pancreatitis, maybe due to causing decreased oxgyen supply to the gut. Sometimes it's good for the US to lag behind Europe in adopting drugs. (cough...thalidomide..cough)
 
2008-02-25 11:17:36 PM
itsfullofstars: It goes both ways. With my previous Dr., I had to bleeding from the eyes to get any antibiotics. I switched to a new Dr who will tell me to go home and treat it with chicken soup and rest but when it needs antibiotics, he prescribes real antibotics, not that amoxicillin crap that's like Tic-Tacs, always has been, always will be.

If it is treatable with chicken soup and rest, it doesn't need a doctor's visit.
 
2008-02-25 11:21:21 PM
kidsizedcoffin: kroonermanblack: kidsizedcoffin: Tarkus31: Yeah, I have a nice infection in my toe from an ingrown toenail, and the antibiotics they gave me are these big things with a name thats huge and no one recognizes.

Puncture with a needle (sterile, even if heated from a lighter), soak your foot in a bath of warm water and epson salt, apply neosporin and a bandage. Repeat as needed.

Until you get another infection from the various open wounds and oozing bits, in constant contact with nasty foot sweat, etc.?

Just go to a toe-doc and have him rip the whole thing out.

Unless you're seriously septic with your big toe, it shouldn't be a big deal. I've had a couple dozen infections, and had the nail ripped out 2-3 times.

I don't get that bad, I get maybe 4 or 5 a year, usually a combined effort of some very sharp needles, my swat knife, and some disinfectants, everything clears up within a week. I've never had to have the nail/matrix removed, at least not from an infection, only from getting smashed by a ladder.


Eh, Its been this way for a week now. I've been soaking it for two days now and nothing has improved with the antibiotics, so I'm going to see the doctor on campus on thursday morning.
 
2008-02-25 11:21:32 PM
Orangie: If it is treatable with chicken soup and rest, it doesn't need a doctor's visit.

Ah, but we're crazy Americans. We don't use our sick days, because we might get fired. Or you might miss a very important day of farking at your desk, and getting paid for it. Doesn't the US have something like the highest percentage of unused sick days of all modern countries?
 
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