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(News-Journal)   Beach cop writing ticket to couple arrests them after they joke that maybe they should call Johnnie Cochran   ( divider line
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2002-10-30 09:31:02 AM  
Evelyn Pabon said she still cannot sleep, suffers nightmares and is still seeking therapy as a result of the incident.

If she can't sleep then how is she having nightmares?

I call bullshiat on this lawsuit!!!
2002-10-30 09:40:11 AM  
Sounds like a fat cop with a superiority complex to me. I have to give the husband/father some props for not decking this guy.

Here's some follow-up:

Time-share solicitor sues over tank-top sanction
2002-10-30 09:52:26 AM  
Time for this cop to work in a different area of police work. Like a desk.
From both of these stories it sounds like he has no business working with the public.
2002-10-30 11:54:50 AM  
Basyle Tchividjian, the Pabons' attorney

Johnnie Cochran woulda been a helluva lot easier to pronounce.
2002-10-30 11:58:35 AM  
Story's attorney, Basyle Tchividjian

I wonder if Mr. Tchividjian is giving this cop a kick back for all the business he is sending to him.
2002-10-30 04:01:52 PM  
is it just me, or does it seem that law enforcement are on a power trip lately?
2002-10-30 04:05:16 PM  
Give a little man a little power...
2002-10-30 04:06:14 PM  
HAPPY HALLOWEEN!!!! at least that is what my calendar says...... it confused me pretty bad......
2002-10-30 04:07:00 PM  
"Lately"? There has always been a high contigent of power-hungry bullies in every police force since the beginning of time. Let's see, a dangerous job with mediocre pay, but you get to have a gun, tell people what to do, lock people up, or sometimes shoot them.

There are many, many great cops out there who just want to help people. But there are some real nutcases, and even some of the good cops take themselves too seriously. There's a reason why every police officer has to go through a battery of psychological tests...
2002-10-30 04:08:43 PM  
Johnny Law on Patrol!
2002-10-30 04:10:05 PM  
With a firm grasp on the obvious I submit that cops are not racists. They're elitists - they feel they're better than everyone.

"The cop's got the power and the gun can't see." (Bonus points to any Farker who knows where this lyric came from.)
2002-10-30 04:10:40 PM  
"Gardner's personnel file includes three complaints for harassment and six commendations and/or letters of thanks for his help with people on the beach."

I think they're just whiney little biatches who saw an opportunity to cash in. Good luck with the videotape evidence...
2002-10-30 04:14:20 PM  
If the handcuffs don't fit, you must..... acquit ?
2002-10-30 04:18:46 PM  
The cop's obviously an ass who needs to spend some time on unpaid leave to think about his virtual nutsize.

But you gotta be pretty boneheaded to exacerbate a cop who's looking to be an ass. The time to make the cop look stupid is at the trial, not when you've got a gun-toting machavellian with a head full of "my-father-was-shot-to-death-on-routine-traffic-stop" stories sticking a billy club in your back.

2002-10-30 04:20:55 PM  
Public Enemy?
2002-10-30 04:21:45 PM  
Yep...time for Officer Bonehead to find a new career.
2002-10-30 04:22:57 PM  
uh, guys. ALL of these complaints are from the same lawyer. And they filed AFTER how long? Can you say abulance chaser? I live in Daytona Beach and I see this asshat chasing cases like this all the time. Smells like solicitation to me. Please.
2002-10-30 04:24:28 PM  
There is this guy I was talking to outside on my campus today, and he made comments about how Jessie Jackson was all out for himself and not for anybody else.

An Asian standing nearby called him a Nazi for being "racist".
2002-10-30 04:29:09 PM  
Sashaddin - nope

Hint #1: they're from Texas originally
2002-10-30 04:29:20 PM  
I'm laying odds the man and woman were black
Daytona is full of redneck cops
ps the sheriff there was creating national headlines for
quite a while from all the racial profiling he was doing
on I95 Can you say illegal search?
2002-10-30 04:29:33 PM  
Gas Bandit is right. Sue the piss out of the city.

I've been to Daytona lots of times and telling a cop your going to call Johnnie Cochran or wearing a collarless shirt are on the small end of the large spectrum of "crime". This cop needs to get a grip and pay back the city for the legal bills he made them incure.
2002-10-30 04:33:23 PM  
Damn straight they shoulda been arrested.

Lucky there wasn't any skull-crackin' going on.

Show some respect, ya pantywaist liberals.
2002-10-30 04:37:52 PM  
2002-10-30 04:38:19 PM  
"I'm laying odds the man and woman were black"

HRABD, if you'd read the article you'd have seen that the couple is Hispanic.

Which, to a redneck cop, is just a lighter black.
2002-10-30 04:38:46 PM  
Thresher -- with this asshat in Blue around, it looks like this ambulance chaser doesn't have to chase for very far.
2002-10-30 04:42:02 PM  
I'm laying odds the man and woman were black.."

I'm laying odds that HellRaiserandBeerDrinker didn't bother to read the article before laying those odds.
2002-10-30 04:49:05 PM  
On the topic of bad cops, let's not forget that it is only the dullest and slowest who are allowed to become cops.

Does anyone remember the case last year (or perhaps the year before) where a would-be cop was kicked out of the training program because he scored a 120 on their IQ test? The argument that the police made was that there had been too much turnover in the force and they found that it was the bright people who were leaving. Thus their policy enabled them to single out and remove anyone with anything upstairs.

The courts sided with the cops if I remember correctly.

I will dig around for the related articles if anyone wants to know more.
2002-10-30 04:51:17 PM  
<A CHRISROCK="You have the right to remain silent, you have the right to an attorney. If you get Johnny Cochran I'll kill ya."</A>
2002-10-30 04:52:23 PM  
First off the father was probably going to get a citation. When getting a ticket you lip off to the cop and end up going to jail it is your own fault for being an asshat.
Second, This cop has two arrests resulting in complaints in 18 years.
She said she felt violated... Ha.. She will when I bend her over and give it to her up the ASS....
2002-10-30 04:58:18 PM  
Gardner ... replied that he was white and in the majority and the couple were in the minority, the lawsuit charges.

Well, there isn't really a majority of one race in the world. There are enough races with enough people in them that there isn't one with more than 50%. So, I suppose that everyone is technically a minority.

Also, I agree that most cops probably do just want to help out, but I know that everyone has had an experience (or knows someone who has) where a power-mad cop is way out-of-line doing something that they have no right to do, but can get away with because they have a badge and a gun. Then again, there are tons of people in other jobs who do the same kind of thing, just with a different power. I mean, just look at Bush.

(half joke. Well, quarter joke... maybe.)
2002-10-30 05:03:11 PM  
Ah, here it is. Sorry about the length, but I think that this article summs up very clearly why cops are dangerous to society:

Man who scored too high on police test loses appeal

September 10, 2000

Associated Press

NEW LONDON, Conn. -- A man whose bid to become a police officer was rejected after he scored too high on an intelligence test has lost an appeal in his federal lawsuit against the city.

The 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New York upheld a lower court's decision that the city did not discriminate against Robert Jordan because the same standards were applied to everyone who took the test.

"This kind of puts an official face on discrimination in America against people of a certain class," Jordan said from his Waterford home Friday. "I maintain you have no more control over your basic intelligence than your eye color or your gender or anything else." He said he does not plan to take any further legal action.

Jordan, a 49-year-old college graduate, took the exam in 1996 and scored 33 points, the equivalent of an IQ of 125. But New London police interviewed only candidates who scored 20 to 27, on the theory that those who scored too
high could get bored with police work and leave soon after undergoing costly training.

The average score nationally for police officers is 21 to 22, the equivalent of an IQ of 104, or just a little above average.

Jordan alleged his rejection from the police force was discrimination. He sued the city, saying his civil rights were violated because he was denied equal protection under the law.

But the U.S. District Court found that New London had "shown a rational basis for the policy." In a ruling dated Aug. 23, the 2nd Circuit agreed. The court said the policy might be unwise but was a rational way to reduce
job turnover.

Jordan has worked as a prison guard since he took the test.
2002-10-30 05:03:51 PM  
Like I said yesterday. Here's what I do with d*ckhead cops....(NOTE: not all cops, just the d*ckheads)

STEP 1) Piss on a blank check and the ticket
STEP 2) Allow the check and ticket to dry off completely
STEP 3) Fill out check and sign ticket
STEP 4) Stick it in an envelope and mail the biatch

Oh, it will smell ripe, trust me.

STEP 5) Laugh your ass off knowing that it only cost you a measly $30.00 (or whatever) to have THEM handle a piece of paper that you pissed on.

STEP 6) Repeat the following aloud..."An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth!" and smile :)

Yes, I know... I need help.
2002-10-30 05:08:44 PM  
Pop quiz hotshot?
the last time you saw a police officer, did you feel secure and safe with him around? completely at ease?
2002-10-30 05:08:45 PM  
Yeah, a prison guard! There's the way to go. Get to wear those cool mirrored glasses and pace about with a major assault rifle.
2002-10-30 05:11:19 PM  
Pop quiz hotshot?
the last time you saw a police officer, did you feel secure and safe with him around? completely at ease?

If you can say yes, and saw the police officer in the mirror, you may be a cop.
2002-10-30 05:16:23 PM  
As a resident of Volusia County (where Daytona is located), its heartwarming to see my taxpayer dollars being spent so productively.

And from experience I can tell you, the sand cops are the worst of the worst. Too much time in the sun I think.

They loved enforcing that 10mph limit when you could still drive on the beach, stopping you for going over 1 mph of it.

Just another run down tourist trap with roads constantly under construction, I never did understand everyones fascination with it..
2002-10-30 05:26:38 PM  
cops are asshats.

time to smoke another joint.
2002-10-30 05:29:03 PM  
This would be a good time for me to point out that you have the *right* to resist unlawful arrest - even to the point of using deadly force.

I even have a link but this is fark and nobody cares anyway.
2002-10-30 05:31:07 PM  
Enave- i would like to see that link .
2002-10-30 05:37:18 PM  
hey Enave, I want to see that link of yours. I never knew people had the right to resists unlawful arrest. I only knew of the right to get beaten by a billy club.
2002-10-30 05:40:57 PM  

cops are asshats.

time to smoke another joint.

I think that's Snoop's next single.
2002-10-30 05:42:17 PM  
Evelyn Pabon said she still cannot sleep, suffers nightmares and is still seeking therapy as a result of the incident.

Sounds to me like she did hire Johnny Cochrane.
2002-10-30 05:43:04 PM  
10-30-02 05:31:07 PM Silkfever
Enave- i would like to see that link​067a/@Ge neric__BookTextView/12793

It seems I am mistaken. The government took away your right to resist unlawful arrest in 1957.

Think about it now. A police officer can say something to you along the lines of "even though you've committed no crime I'm going to arrest you because I don't like you and by the time the paperwork is done to have you released you will have been raped in the ass" and you have no recourse whatsoever. This is clearly an unlawful arrest, but if you defend yourself against it you - not the officer - are in trouble.

I become more a Libertarian every day.
2002-10-30 05:44:08 PM  
all cops are nazis
2002-10-30 06:01:59 PM  
10-30-02 04:42:02 PM MorePeasPlease
I'm laying odds the man and woman were black.."

I'm laying odds that HellRaiserandBeerDrinker didn't bother to read the article before laying those odds.

but still, couldn't this be just another instance of someone calling racial profiling and throwing out the race card?
2002-10-30 06:06:58 PM  
I love it - let's be sarcastic smartasses to a cop, and then whine about how he took offense and arrested us. You don't have to commit a felony to be arrested, you just have to break the law, and it sounds like they both did that.

Cry me a farking river, they could have used common courtesy, would likely have received a simple citation, which later may have even been dismissed in court. Instead they chose to be argumentative and sarcastic - they deserved what they got. Kudos to the cop for cleaning up the beach.
2002-10-30 06:10:33 PM  
Hint #1: they're from Texas originally

The Geto Boys?
2002-10-30 07:03:27 PM  

Instead they chose to be argumentative and sarcastic - they deserved what they got. Kudos to the cop for cleaning up the beach.

The point is the sandcop wasn't cleaning up the beach. Being sarcastic isn't a crime, biatch.
2002-10-30 07:14:21 PM  
SabreWulf07 - nope

Hint #2: they're a hardcore band formed in the early 80's

c'mon all you old punk Farkers, dig into the old 7" vinyl collections...
2002-10-30 08:43:32 PM  
Not that I am a huge fan of cops, cause a lot of them are bullies, but it sounds like something is missing from the defendants side on this case, that and the cop has to be in the right if he is so cocky, especially if the whole thing is taped. As for the copy having only 2 lawsuits in 18 years, sounds like a good record to me, especially for a beach cop. I am sure the defendants yelled or something, their side of the story is way to clean cut to be true.
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