FTA:

state licensed deer cooperators came to campus and did a managed bow hunt,

Wait...deer "cooperators?" That's the weirdest euphemism for hunter I've ever seen.

/war is peace

dbaggins: Road_Kill:

Deer = Rats with antlers.


Anyone who has observed deer closely would realize that they resemble bunnies with antlers.

seriously, that's the animal they most remind me of. way more than any other equid or rodent.


Deer = cervids, not equids

Oldiron_79: bonehead800: Oldiron_79: A healthy female deer will have at LEAST 4 fawns.

If you see one with 1,2, or 3(1&2 more so than 3) than the deer are overpopulated and unhealthy in your area.


Trying to figure out what you're saying here. Do you mean that a doe has four at a time? Because if so, you're an idiot. They commonly have twins and rarely triplets, but four is about as likely as octuplets in humans. If you're seeing deer with 1 or 2 fawns, that's perfectly normal.

You've obviously never read a serious book about deer biology written by folks with PHD's. How many one has depends on how well nourished it is. 4 is healthy, obese deer(like on a deer farm) often have litters that are up to TWICE that size. 1 and 2 are undernourished, severely undernourished ones usually miscarry and have 0.


2 = normal number of offspring


deer = tasty

/writing my dissertation on deer & human evolution (not kidding)
//hoping that didn't sound to troll-y

Gyrfalcon: If they don't want hunters to do it, howabout we ship in some of the excess mountain lion population we're having trouble with here in LA County? They're eating housepets and excess joggers because there's not enough mule deer.

We could send a few kitties out to Maryland, and they'd solve your excess rat with antler deer problem in no time.

i heard a mountain lion needs 300 sq. mi. for it's habitat. thats about the size of a state back east. jogger good nom, nom, urp!

baka-san: I see no problem with this. We have destroyed the predators. Overpopulation means deer starve.


If hunters were also working to bring back the larger predators I might be more swayed by hunters claims of filling in for a little bit.

ultraholland: Gyrfalcon: We could send a few kitties out to Maryland, and they'd solve your excess rat with antler deer problem in no time.

Hell yes, I love those kitties. Is there some way they can help Maryland drivers with their horrendous driving as well?

Yeah if you stop swerving everyones driving around you doesn't look so bad anymore.

The fact that deer can have multiples when fully nourished is the reason they have rebounded above pre-white settlement numbers after being hunted to near extinction in the early 20th century, but Elk and Moose are still very much less population than pre-white settlement.

baka-san: Oldiron_79: OK, so spelling and syntax error are the best you can come up with.


I'm talking about biological science and you are talking about bambi is so cute..... so heres a picture of a cute bunny with a pancake on its head

I have always wanted to say something, but isn't that two pancakes.

I noticed that too.

Oldiron_79: The fact that deer can have multiples when fully nourished is the reason they have rebounded above pre-white settlement numbers after being hunted to near extinction in the early 20th century, but Elk and Moose are still very much less population than pre-white settlement.

then the solution is obvious. We need to teach the elk and moose how to hunt and consume deer.

Gyrfalcon: If they don't want hunters to do it, howabout we ship in some of the excess mountain lion population we're having trouble with here in LA County? They're eating housepets and excess joggers because there's not enough mule deer.

If you believe the rumours in Illinois, the insurance companies and IDOC did just that. I asked my insurance agent about it and she just gave one of those smiles, meaning to me it was true but wasn't going to admit it.

ultraholland: Hell yes, I love those kitties. Is there some way they can help Maryland drivers with their horrendous driving as well?

I'm really not exaggerating when I say that Maryland drivers are by far the worst drivers I have ever seen. I really don't understand what it is.

dbaggins: Oldiron_79: The fact that deer can have multiples when fully nourished is the reason they have rebounded above pre-white settlement numbers after being hunted to near extinction in the early 20th century, but Elk and Moose are still very much less population than pre-white settlement.

then the solution is obvious. We need to teach the elk and moose how to hunt and consume deer.

Wait wait wait what if we stuffed a moose inside and elk, and a deer inside a moose and then suffed it with a 10 bird stuffed turducken it would be an American version of the whole stuffed camel!

There is a much larger population of deer in the Mid-Atlantic states, than when the first Virginia colonists showed up. I can't tell you how many deer I have seen in the oddest of places within the Metro DC area. (Including downtown, DC) They're out of control in many parts of Virginia and Maryland and without some method of culling, they pose a distinct hazard to people, wildlife and vegetation in the area.

A rather significant number of people are killed in car/deer collisions in the region. Two friends of mine are lucky to be alive today after surviving crashes with deers. One had a deer try and jump over his minivan (loaded with buddy, wife and their two kids) while he was cruising at about 65 mph, but thankfully the deer hit the side and roof instead of his windshield and kind of rolled over and the top. (A split second in the timing of the jump and that deer would have been right through the windshield) The other friend is a pilot and has split second reflexes, he was able to pull his speed down to about 25 mph and maneuver enough to avoid hitting the deer head-on. It still did over $6,000 of damage to his car.

As others have noted, without any natural predators keeping their population within "natural" limits - disease, starvation, parasites, etc are all taking a toll on the health of the deer. Makes far more sense to kill out a few in as humane a way as possible, rather than to allow them to die through the slow cruel process of starvation and disease. (Besides, it keeps the deer healthier as a species to have the week and infirmed eliminated as nature intended.)

lawboy87: There is a much larger population of deer in the Mid-Atlantic states, than when the first Virginia colonists showed up. I can't tell you how many deer I have seen in the oddest of places within the Metro DC area. (Including downtown, DC)

A deer hit me (not the other way around) in MacArthur Blvd in DC. The Park Service is under pressure from the local idiocy to not cull them even though they have all but destroyed the ecosystem of the last remaining natural areas in DC.

amazing_live_seamonkeys: ultraholland: Hell yes, I love those kitties. Is there some way they can help Maryland drivers with their horrendous driving as well?

I'm really not exaggerating when I say that Maryland drivers are by far the worst drivers I have ever seen. I really don't understand what it is.

Being a Marylander... seriously it depends on where you are. If you near a city then well it should be expected... 90% of the people who are driving in a city are not from the city, especially in the summer time. Or are military members that are stationed at one of the many bases. As for the country side... good driving should be expected. Dude I've seen some seriously bad drivers from Florida, and that was when I was living in Georgia. The line down the middle of the road is not supposed to line up with the middle of your car for 30 miles.

dbaggins: Oldiron_79: The fact that deer can have multiples when fully nourished is the reason they have rebounded above pre-white settlement numbers after being hunted to near extinction in the early 20th century, but Elk and Moose are still very much less population than pre-white settlement.

then the solution is obvious. We need to teach the elk and moose how to hunt and consume deer.

Well now you're just taking the easy way out.

Daddakamabb: amazing_live_seamonkeys: ultraholland: Hell yes, I love those kitties. Is there some way they can help Maryland drivers with their horrendous driving as well?

I'm really not exaggerating when I say that Maryland drivers are by far the worst drivers I have ever seen. I really don't understand what it is.

Being a Marylander... seriously it depends on where you are. If you near a city then well it should be expected... 90% of the people who are driving in a city are not from the city, especially in the summer time. Or are military members that are stationed at one of the many bases. As for the country side... good driving should be expected. Dude I've seen some seriously bad drivers from Florida, and that was when I was living in Georgia. The line down the middle of the road is not supposed to line up with the middle of your car for 30 miles.

I live in Baltimore county. I'm not far from the city, and one of my best friends lives in the city, so I drive there about 3 to 4 times a week. I'd say that the driving there is much worse than in the county. I would say there are some pretty good reasons why though.

Way too many people are looking for parking spots, which are scarce. Then there's the fact that the streets aren't exactly easy to figure out (in Baltimore city). Half of them are one ways, and a lot of the signs are either not legible, or impossible to see.

I can honestly see a difference between the county and city driving habits, and can say that it's not the drivers faults for the most part, just the condition of what they have to drive in or around.

Oldiron_79: The fact that deer can have multiples when fully nourished is the reason they have rebounded above pre-white settlement numbers after being hunted to near extinction in the early 20th century, but Elk and Moose are still very much less population than pre-white settlement.

Sound game management practices are the reason game populations have rebounded. Elk and moose may not be as populous as deer, but these animals require more habitat than whitetails. Also, I don't think that elk and moose have multiple births like deer. Elk have recently been reintroduced in Illinois, Kentucky and other states that haven't had elk populations in 150+ years

No, no, no. You have it all wrong. No matter where you are in Maryland, the bad driving follows. I knew I hit MD coming in from Pennsylvania because the traffic that had been flowing just fine only a few miles back was a complete clusterf*ck for absolutely no reason. That's when you know you're in Maryland.

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: My dumb ass swerved to miss a deer last week.

I Am A Dope.

My truck's bumper was ALREADY DENTED and I had the new one in the back! Coulda wrecked swerving like that. Shoulda hit it and ate it.

/rats with antlers. Tasty rats.

Back in my wild and misspent youth, a herd of deer ran out in front me. Three zigs and two zags later, I got through without wrecking my brand new IROC Z28.

A little trick my Dad taught me. IF and only IF you have time, the presence of mind and it's safe to do it, cut your headlights off, down to just the running lights, begin slowing down and give the horn a toot. This will usually get the deer to move out of the road. I've actually avoided several car/deer collisions using this method.

/That car was a chick magnet
//yes, I had a mullet!

how about "Venison is yummy"?

that's a good enough excuse for me.

/not a hunter
//not against it either.

ultraholland: No, no, no. You have it all wrong. No matter where you are in Maryland, the bad driving follows. I knew I hit MD coming in from Pennsylvania because the traffic that had been flowing just fine only a few miles back was a complete clusterf*ck for absolutely no reason. That's when you know you're in Maryland.

What were you on I-95? During rush hour? How about instead of peggin it on MD drivers you look around at the license plates because I've seen plenty of people from NY doing seriously crazy shait... I'm not saying all MD drivers are saints but common... how can you peg and entire state on the driving habits of tourist and people passing through? Which is what MD is... like the northern passage to the south. Dude people from DC though seriously WTF... how the hell did most of you guys get a license?

Daddakamabb: What were you on I-95? During rush hour?

No. I was coming back from Indiana, PA and was well away from 95. It was an early Sunday afternoon.

How about instead of peggin it on MD drivers you look around at the license plates because I've seen plenty of people from NY doing seriously crazy shait... I'm not saying all MD drivers are saints but common... how can you peg and entire state on the driving habits of tourist and people passing through?

I made a point to look. They were from Maryland. Every. Single. Plate.

Which is what MD is... like the northern passage to the south. Dude people from DC though seriously WTF... how the hell did most of you guys get a license?

Anybody inside the Beltway is also suspect.

ultraholland: Daddakamabb: What were you on I-95? During rush hour?

No. I was coming back from Indiana, PA and was well away from 95. It was an early Sunday afternoon.

How about instead of peggin it on MD drivers you look around at the license plates because I've seen plenty of people from NY doing seriously crazy shait... I'm not saying all MD drivers are saints but common... how can you peg and entire state on the driving habits of tourist and people passing through?

I made a point to look. They were from Maryland. Every. Single. Plate.

Which is what MD is... like the northern passage to the south. Dude people from DC though seriously WTF... how the hell did most of you guys get a license?

Anybody inside the Beltway is also suspect.

Dude then on behalf of the rest of my fellow Marylanders please forgive the past indiscretions. And I'm sorry you had to deal with stupid shiat from them.

Daddakamabb: Dude then on behalf of the rest of my fellow Marylanders please forgive the past indiscretions. And I'm sorry you had to deal with stupid shiat from them.

No worries at all. Half of the family is from Maryland. Hell, I'm even related to Archbishop Carroll!

But now there are 62 less deer in the herd than there were at the end of last year.

"While the college was closed for the winter break, over five days, state licensed deer cooperators came to campus and did a managed bow hunt," said Goucher College Spokesperson Kristen Keener.

At about 200 white tailed deer, the population for the campus was considered out of control. The State Department of Natural Resources estimates there should only be 40.

Okay, so removing 62 excess deer out of 160 excess deer is supposed to "complete" the thinning process? Obviously math isn't stressed much at Goucher College...

ExJerseyGirl: Road_Kill: ExJerseyGirl:

I don't think that a Deer = Rats with antlers....

ExJersyGirl - That is a direct quote from a state biologist in SC where I used to live. I believe he was talking about the way they reproduce and their eating habits. I deeply suspect they are tastier than rats though I guess it is all in how you cook them.

Yes, I understood that. Where I live they haven't overpopulated the area like "rats with wings" or "sea rats with wings." (Pigeons and seagulls.) Maybe we have enough coyotes to keep them in check.

Oh, well then....

Never mind....

Wow only one anti hunter in this thread..what has Fark become...

Wow, I am a Goucher graduate, and am really getting a kick out of how this thread has turned into a hack on MD drivers.

Point 1. Goucher is a bleeding heart liberal arts college and should have done something about the herd long before this...the environmental groups on campus and many of us bleeding heart graduate types are not pleased. Why let it get this out of control? Goucher has plenty of dough, they could have initiated a program of birth control a decade ago. Stupid move.

Point 2. I have lived in Maryland and Florida. Maryland drivers have no idea that the left-hand lane is for passing, and cannot be bothered to look in the rear-view mirror to see if someone wants to pass them. However, in South Florida, traveling on the major highways is scary. Combine the transplanted New York Drivers with the transplanted Haitian Drivers and both the Turnpike and 95 are like being in a bad racing video game. Using your turn signal on either of these roads will ensure that you will not be allowed into the next lane, and you might even be run off the road into a canal. South Florida drivers are the worst! That being said, they drive at 80 miles an hour, so you get anywhere you want to go pretty damn quick.

Seven years ago I moved from Pennsylvania to Maryland, just outside D.C. In Pennsylvania I hit one deer and nearly hit at least six others in my six year driving history there. In Maryland I hit zero deer and nearly hit zero deer, yet I hear constantly from coworkers and others of their deer/driving escapades. I chalk it up to the entire D.C. region's inability to drive in an observant and competent manner. I really hate the people who live here, when this housing price drop is fixed in five years I am outta here, these people suck in so many ways.

flacidbob: Wow only one anti hunter in this thread..what has Fark become...

Really, I was having a blast shooting down Oldiron_79 comments. Farking idiot doesn't know squat about Whitetail deer or wildlife in general.

"Deer have litters"...give me a break!

selinariel: Point 2. I have lived in Maryland and Florida. Maryland drivers have no idea that the left-hand lane is for passing, and cannot be bothered to look in the rear-view mirror to see if someone wants to pass them. However, in South Florida, traveling on the major highways is scary. Combine the transplanted New York Drivers with the transplanted Haitian Drivers and both the Turnpike and 95 are like being in a bad racing video game. Using your turn signal on either of these roads will ensure that you will not be allowed into the next lane, and you might even be run off the road into a canal. South Florida drivers are the worst! That being said, they drive at 80 miles an hour, so you get anywhere you want to go pretty damn quick.

THIS

/grew up in South Florida, goes back to visit family
//lives in Maryland
///not the worst Maryland driver you will see

I have a friend in suburban northern Virginia (house in the woods, 5+ acre lots) who got sick and tired of the deer eating all of her ornamental plants. I offered to let her take a 12 gauge with slugs, but her husband is anti-gun and wouldn't hear of it. (Truth be told, he's probably more anti-having his wife handle a firearm.) It got to be a big problem in the neighborhood, so the HOA hired a guy to come in with a bow and shoot any deer he sees. This guy gets to hunt all day and then gets paid for it.

There is still a Deer population problem in Maryland (overall). The fact that you can no longer hunt on the campus of this private, liberal arts college shouldn't surprise you.

They are made of meat and quite delicious.
/Not so sure about Goucher girls