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2008-02-14 07:53:57 PM  
i105.photobucket.com
 
2008-02-14 07:56:33 PM  
I can hit a ball with a stick
 
2008-02-14 08:42:07 PM  
I'll just get this out of the way:

"He didn't hit his 73 in 2000, duuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrr!"
 
2008-02-14 09:01:52 PM  
IF he tested positive in '01 why wouldn't he get suspended? Just a question for the masses.

/Go Sox
 
2008-02-14 09:02:50 PM  
www.theweeklydonut.com
 
2008-02-14 10:21:00 PM  
I'm SHOCKED!
 
2008-02-14 10:21:12 PM  
If it comes out that the baseball higher ups knew about the failed test and did nothing, it is by far one of the most disgraceful acts in baseball history. All we have been hearing from these guys is that they had no knowledge and weren't conspiring to cover anything up.
 
2008-02-14 10:24:06 PM  
HulkHands"He didn't hit his 73 in 2000, duuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrr!"

Well I imagine that using they year prior helped out quite a bit in '01. I may not be an expert on steroids put I would assume that it would take about a year of use and working out to make a difference.

/meh
 
2008-02-14 10:25:02 PM  
Should steroids be legalized?. On the one hand, I do agreee with the statement that sports is only a form of entertainment, and anything these guys want to do to enhance the value of it is okay by me. On the other hand, even though the gov't would regulate it, the guys playing 'clean' would be at a disadvantage to those on the juice.


I would be for legalization. Use it at your own risk. Hell, everyone knows that smoking is just bad for you, and it still hasn't been outlawed.

 
2008-02-14 10:26:10 PM  
AGAIN...Selig should be stripped of his job for not suspending Bonds in 2001. It is a FARKIN' double standard!
 
2008-02-14 10:26:13 PM  
IronTom: I can hit a ball with a stick

No, you can't.

Barry Bonds can.
 
2008-02-14 10:30:00 PM  
I hate Selig almost as much as Bonds.
 
2008-02-14 10:40:18 PM  
Selig couldn't have suspended Bonds. He didn't know about the failed test, because the test he failed wasn't a test conducted by MLB. It was a test conducted by BALCO to see how well their drugs were able to be masked. It came back with a positive result, which they noted in the paperwork that the Feds confiscated during their raid.

Also, it seems there might have been AT LEAST two failed tests: one in 2000, and one in 2001, which is why there is confusion in the dates between the Fox News and ESPN.com stories. The one in 2000 is the one that the Feds already brought up in the BALCO trial. The one they filed today is one that appears to have been done a year later (2001), just after Bonds' record breaking season.

This is the "gotcha" that the Feds were saving for this trial, since they knew about this after their raid in Summer of 2003, and gave him the chance to admit in the Fall 2003 trial. Instead he flat out denied about being given steroids or being tested for steroids. But now that they have a trail of steroid tests connected to Barry, he HAD to have been aware that they were testing him from steroids, and trying to make sure that he could beat the MLB tests. Why would they do that and not inform him that that's what they were doing? Answer: they wouldn't.
 
2008-02-14 10:41:03 PM  
Most of you are freakin idiots. Yes Bonds used steroids but looking at the recent reports I would imagine at least 30 percent of major leaguers have or were using and it could easily be higher. Bash everyone if your going to bash Bonds. How many more home runs could he have hit if the pitchers werent juicing. You cant take it away from him just put it in perspective. Dead ball era, steroids era.
 
2008-02-14 10:43:14 PM  
squirrelqueen.files.wordpress.com

screw barry bonds and his big head
 
2008-02-14 10:52:10 PM  
sponkster: Most of you are freakin idiots. Yes Bonds used steroids but looking at the recent reports I would imagine at least 30 percent of major leaguers have or were using and it could easily be higher

Fark Login: sponkster
Location: Sacramento Ca

Northern California, eh?
Yeah, completely unbiased perspective.
 
2008-02-14 10:59:11 PM  
So it turns out this was a typo, the feds still have no proof he did steroids.
 
2008-02-14 11:10:32 PM  
A very simple solution, if there is a positive test that can indicate it was more likely than not he was on steroids during a baseball season, strike that season's records from the book. Give him 0 AB, 0 H, 0 K, etc. Doing that to the 2000 or the 2001 season would knock him back below Aaron AND Ruth and put an irremovable stain on his playing career.

\If this is true and 2001 gets stricken I will dance. Not that I hate Barry, I just hate cheating.
 
2008-02-14 11:22:56 PM  
I wanna see his heart explode right after he whacks one deep left center.
 
2008-02-14 11:34:05 PM  
I didn't say I wasn't biased and I am not sticking up for what Bonds did but you cant just hammer away on one guy when a large percentage of the entire league was cheating.....
 
2008-02-14 11:44:04 PM  
sponkster [TotalFark]
I didn't say I wasn't biased and I am not sticking up for what Bonds did but you cant just hammer away on one guy when a large percentage of the entire league was cheating.....

Funny how a large percentage of the entire league didn't fail drug tests then, huh?

What exactly will it take to get his cock out of your mouth?

There's no proof he was cheating!
He never failed a drug test!


And now the apologist fallback position is:
Everyone was doing it!

Christ, I've heard fewer rationales for the Iraq war.

He's not even on your team anymore.
 
2008-02-15 12:06:33 AM  
Why is this coming out now?

cendojr 2008-02-14 11:10:32 PM
A very simple solution, if there is a positive test that can indicate it was more likely than not he was on steroids during a baseball season, strike that season's records from the book. Give him 0 AB, 0 H, 0 K, etc. Doing that to the 2000 or the 2001 season would knock him back below Aaron AND Ruth and put an irremovable stain on his playing career.

\If this is true and 2001 gets stricken I will dance. Not that I hate Barry, I just hate cheating.


That very well might happen and you can dance all youwant. But are you really going to feel that much better with Mark McGwire or Sammy Sosa holding that single season record rather than Bonds?

superoogie
And now the apologist fallback position is:
Everyone was doing it!


Personally (and I am a Giants fan) my position the entire time has been that tons of guys did it and the commish did nothing to stop it and MLB raked in huge money because 'chicks did the long ball.' I think the powers in baseball knew what was happening and didn't do enough to stop it, now the whole era is tainted and the two biggest records in the game belong to the same juiced up jerk, maybe they should have done more when they could.

This in no way, shape or form excuses Bonds at all. No way excuses him. No one made him cheat. He did it himself, I think he did it because his huge ego couldn't handle the attention players that weren't his equal getting more publicity for beefing up and hitting homeruns. Bonds had a great season in 1998 and no one paid attention-everyone was slobbering over McGwire and Sosa. So Bonds looked at that and deceided to show people what the juice did to a player that was great to begin with. Without any chemical help, Bonds was as good as McGwire or Sosa or anybody on the juice, that was the Bonds I miss watching. Bonds on the juice was the best pure slugger since Babe Ruth. He was immortal, and a cheater. Lots of people cheated, he was just better when he cheated. And a bigger jerk.

Don't be surprised if some certain Cy Youngs get taken away if some certain homer records vanish, too. This could become very wide sweeping. Or nothing could happen at all.

One more thing before I head off to bed, before anybody tears into SF fans for supporting Bonds all these years, take a good look in the mirror and honestly ask if you wouldn't be rooting if Bonds wasn't parking shots into the seat for your favorite team. It's team before all else.

Go Giants. They might suck, but at least they'll be clean for once!
 
2008-02-15 12:13:01 AM  
bison0329 at least they oughtta absolve Shoeless Joe & Pete Rose
 
2008-02-15 12:24:44 AM  
oh well, everyone all upset about a typo....go back to your normal flame wars....

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3246675
 
2008-02-15 12:25:31 AM  
mean while Clemens set to get a pardon
 
2008-02-15 12:35:41 AM  
73

you * was a typo
 
2008-02-15 12:53:50 AM  
Big Deal...
 
2008-02-15 07:59:31 AM  
Man, if you manage fail a MLB drug test - you are a total fool/tool. I offer you "never tested positive" Barry Bonds as proof that you can dope to the gills and not even come close to being caught.

/"doping-control" is an oyxmoron in American sports
 
2008-02-15 09:07:41 AM  
mdfitzsimmons: So it turns out this was a typo, the feds still have no proof he did steroids.

It was a typo in that 2000 does not have a 1 in the last spot. They only wrote the wrong year for the positive test.
 
2008-02-15 11:33:16 AM  
Barry Bonds is was successful because he has had one of the best swings in ML history, combined with almost super-human hand-eye coordination and reflexes. Steroids did NOTHING to improve/enhance those attributes.

Any youngster wishing to succeed at the sport would do well to emulate his mechanics (while avoiding modeling his being an asshole skills).
 
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