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2008-02-14 06:22:55 PM
I don't know if I am happy to see that Federation Day is the same as my birthday or really really sad at that fact.

/and I thought it falling on Mother's Day occasionally was the worst thing ever.
 
2008-02-14 06:25:27 PM
federation day is the same day as V-E day, heh.
 
2008-02-14 07:05:19 PM
Where the hell is Vulcan?
 
2008-02-14 07:07:57 PM
Raskolnikov's Angst: Where the hell is Vulcan?

2 sectors "south" of earth on the map.
 
2008-02-14 07:10:01 PM
Raskolnikov's Angst: Where the hell is Vulcan?

deepspace93.com

In Alberta. Duh.

\Try Epsilon Eridani
\\ Or at least that's what it used to be
\\\ I'm so out of date with my Trek.
 
2008-02-14 07:12:56 PM
Aquadyne: also, how did klingons travel to DS9 through federation space during DS9 era when they werent yet allied with the federation against the dominion?

The Klingons had these things called "cloaking devices" that were written into the plots of numerous episodes. I'm sure they could use then when traversing Federation space . . .
 
2008-02-14 07:19:07 PM
VonAether: On the far left, check out the far left-hand side. Right above where it says "CARDASSIAN UNION," it says "-REEN" (with the B cut off), covering some vaguely purplish space. The map in the upper-right has a large sprawling purple region in the same place.

No, that's just named after Ben Vereen. Cardassians love stage acting and dance.
 
2008-02-14 07:20:45 PM
Some people have raised a very interesting question regarding the two-dimensionality of this map. I would refute their assertions this way:

1) The galaxy's thickness is negligible for purposes of representing the relative distance between many discrete points. Star systems widely separated on the z-axis but close on the x-y axes might appear artificially close on this map, but they will both be accurately placed with respect to most other systems, because the galaxy is much wider than it is deep.

2) Outside of the galactic plane, there are no fuel depots, no planets to refuel on, and (critically in the Trek-verse) much less interstellar deuterium to "mine" via Bussard collectors. Therefore, if the Romulans tried to "sneak over" the Neutral Zone, they'd basically run out of gas (or have to make so many concessions to fuel economy and logistics as to be no threat). For that matter, they could go all the way around the rim of the galaxy and attack the Federation from the Delta or Gamma Quadrants, but that wouldn't be any more practical. The Neutral Zone has kept us safe from them since the Treaty of Algeron: you can't argue with success.

3) Shut up or I won't give you any of the Hot Pockets my mom is making for us.
 
2008-02-14 07:25:23 PM
Aquadyne: Raskolnikov's Angst: Where the hell is Vulcan?

2 sectors "south" of earth on the map.


Interesting...I thought it would be a lot closer to the Neutral Zone.
 
2008-02-14 07:30:43 PM
Not all Trek shows have been consistent, but I thought that the galaxy was divided into the Alpha, Beta, Gamma and Delta quadrants. Most everything before DS9 was in Alpha, the dominion in Gamma, Voyager lost in Delta, and no mention ever of Beta. That map doesn't seem to be in quadrants. Is is supposed to be Alpha only?
 
2008-02-14 07:32:10 PM
Why isn't it shaped like a horse saddle?
 
2008-02-14 07:35:34 PM
Quebec's in space?!?

Actually, not a bad idea.

Farking French!
 
2008-02-14 07:39:18 PM
semiotix: The Neutral Zone has kept us safe from them since the Treaty of Algeron: you can't argue with success.

I like how you talk about it as if it was a reality. I think your mom is calling you for supper, Starfleet Admiral Semiotix.

Raskolnikov's Angst: Aquadyne: Raskolnikov's Angst: Where the hell is Vulcan?

2 sectors "south" of earth on the map.

Interesting...I thought it would be a lot closer to the Neutral Zone.


In canon, Vulcan was the first encounter that Earth had once they acquired warp drive and a founding member of the Federation.

Their timeline is all screwed up by the writers which affects their geographical location.

uncoveror: Not all Trek shows have been consistent, but I thought that the galaxy was divided into the Alpha, Beta, Gamma and Delta quadrants. Most everything before DS9 was in Alpha, the dominion in Gamma, Voyager lost in Delta, and no mention ever of Beta. That map doesn't seem to be in quadrants. Is is supposed to be Alpha only?

this map sucks because it has been stated multiple times before that the federation is 10,000 light years across, but if you apply the scale at the bottom of the map, its more like 300 light years

in canon, most of romulan empire and most of klingon empire is in the beta quadrant from what i remember
 
2008-02-14 07:39:33 PM
It's hard on my ego! I've seen it already....hahaha and this newtextentrybox takes forever to take spacesssssaaaaaaaaaarg
 
2008-02-14 07:41:53 PM
mrmopar5287: Aquadyne: also, how did klingons travel to DS9 through federation space during DS9 era when they werent yet allied with the federation against the dominion?

The Klingons had these things called "cloaking devices" that were written into the plots of numerous episodes. I'm sure they could use then when traversing Federation space . . .


yeah, except that they didnt use them because had they been caught, it would have been an act of war. also how would you get to deep space nine without traveling to federation space?

"--This is Klingon Cruiser K'tarh, requesting permission to dock at Deep Space 9
-- What the hell, how did you get here?
-- Uhhhh, my mom dropped me off"
 
2008-02-14 07:42:53 PM
img155.imageshack.us
 
2008-02-14 08:26:05 PM
I feel so dirty after seeing that.
 
2008-02-14 08:28:48 PM
Life_is_a_carnivore: I feel so dirty after seeing that.

Go take a sonic shower.
 
2008-02-14 08:57:05 PM
Aquadyne: this map sucks because it has been stated multiple times before that the federation is 10,000 light years across, but if you apply the scale at the bottom of the map, its more like 300 light years

The Star Trek Dimension site I linked to above covers this in some detail.

After looking at the available evidence (rough travel times, etc.) the decision he comes to is that the Federation probably is a "core" about 300 or so LY across, but outlying territories/colonies mean it theoretically covers the stated 8,000 LY.

uncoveror: Not all Trek shows have been consistent, but I thought that the galaxy was divided into the Alpha, Beta, Gamma and Delta quadrants. Most everything before DS9 was in Alpha, the dominion in Gamma, Voyager lost in Delta, and no mention ever of Beta. That map doesn't seem to be in quadrants. Is is supposed to be Alpha only?

The Alpha/Beta division goes directly through the centre of Earth's solar system. In that map, the Alpha is on the left-hand side, the Beta quadrant on the right. The map does not cover the entire galaxy. It's actually only a fairly tiny slice.

To see the whole thing, there's a map about two thirds of the way down this page, which includes all four quadrants, as well as territories of the Borg, Dominion, Hirogen, etc.
 
2008-02-14 10:03:46 PM
A REAL NERD HAS SEEN IT ALLREADY
 
2008-02-14 10:33:42 PM
I had that on my bedroom wall when I was nine years old. This one looks to have been updated cosmetically (for the worse, in my opinion) but that map dates back to the early 80s.
 
2008-02-14 10:43:56 PM
JohnnyDanger: I had that on my bedroom wall when I was nine years old. This one looks to have been updated cosmetically (for the worse, in my opinion) but that map dates back to the early 80s.

unlikely, since like 90% of trek universe was fleshed out in late 80s and 90s
 
2008-02-14 10:58:00 PM
Aquadyne
I shan't argue with a distinguished expert such as yourself.

You see, I'm not a Trek fan and didn't like the poster when it was given to me as a present. I recall it always mildly pissed me off because, while it was a 'map' of the Trek space neighborhood, (admittedly in beta as not enough 'exploring' had been done as yet) it was just a work of fiction. I wanted a real map.
 
2008-02-14 10:59:35 PM
JohnnyDanger: Aquadyne
I shan't argue with a distinguished expert such as yourself.

You see, I'm not a Trek fan and didn't like the poster when it was given to me as a present. I recall it always mildly pissed me off because, while it was a 'map' of the Trek space neighborhood, (admittedly in beta as not enough 'exploring' had been done as yet) it was just a work of fiction. I wanted a real map.


if it makes you feel any better i am ashamed of knowing all of this and wish i hadnt opened my mouth from the start.

but at this point, i might as well go all the way.
 
2008-02-14 11:08:43 PM
It's too late, I've seen everything.
 
2008-02-15 12:19:38 AM
darkjedi1
Hell the star wars universe would beat the crap out of the star trek universe. One star destroyer could do it.


One ship? You're nuts.
 
2008-02-15 02:18:21 AM
Banacek: It's too late, I've seen everything.

You made it's clothes come off?

Good gracious, did it try to cover up?
 
2008-02-15 03:53:19 AM

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2008-02-15 08:04:27 AM
www.stdimension.org

Generally, this is a more accepted version of the galaxy in the ST universe.
 
2008-02-15 08:05:26 AM
gahh got scaled. Well just open the link.
 
2008-02-15 08:11:23 AM
Your_Huckleberry: darkjedi1
Hell the star wars universe would beat the crap out of the star trek universe. One star destroyer could do it.


One ship? You're nuts.


Star Wars: Lasers.

Worf: "Lasers would not even penetrate our Navigational Deflector Shields." (Shields that run all the time to prevent Debris from damaging the ships, the sci-fi navigational equivalent of holding a tissue out in front of yourself.)

A star destroyer would send out dozens of useless tiny ships who's fire arms couldn't do crap.

The Empire's only hope: the Starship captain tries too hard to make nice.

God help them if they got 2260's Kirk. They'd be beaten so fast, Kirk would have to rip his own shirt in a vain attempt to show his chest.
 
2008-02-15 09:25:51 AM
So the first thing i thought was "8,000 cubic light years? Thats it??"

Then I saw the scale, too - waaaaay off. Unless you think you've got a thickness of your federation of maybe 1 light year, which is pretty laughable. Nobody ever thought to check out the 'up' direction?

If you made a sphere centered on earth with a volume of 8,000 cubic light years, you'd encounter on the order of 25 star systems (including doubles as one system)

/I'd say thinking about this makes me lame, but thats already dictated by being in this thread.
 
2008-02-15 09:58:42 AM
saintstryfe: Star Wars: Lasers.

Despite what they called them, did those look like lasers they were firing in Star Wars?

Now I feel dirty.
 
2008-02-15 10:01:38 AM
saintstryfe

I always wondered if it would have been quicker if Voyager could get to the other end of the bajoran wormhole. You don't happen to know where Voyager was when it managed to get home using the Borg wormhole thing in the last episode do you? It'd be interesting to see how far they travelled back on the map.
 
2008-02-15 11:24:51 AM
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I just had to say WOOT. A buddy of mine had this game on an early Tandy computer that he loaded with an audio cassette player. I later acquired a Dos-based PC version. Good times.
 
2008-02-15 11:56:56 AM
Pixelvision: I always wondered if it would have been quicker if Voyager could get to the other end of the bajoran wormhole. You don't happen to know where Voyager was when it managed to get home using the Borg wormhole thing in the last episode do you? It'd be interesting to see how far they travelled back on the map.

The Journey of the Voyager.

They don't have the whole thing there... just up to the fourth season, I think. The aforementioned Star Trek Star Charts illustrates the whole thing... they managed to make it to pretty much exactly the border between the Delta and Beta quadrants when they took the last Borg slipstream to Earth-space.
 
2008-02-15 04:43:34 PM
Sadly, I own the book that those maps came from. I pull it out when watching Star Trek... yes, I'm a loser.
 
2008-02-15 04:50:08 PM
Weswoman: Sadly, I own the book that those maps came from. I pull it out when watching Star Trek... yes, I'm a loser.

...I just bought my second one...so I could take out this exact same map (in its 4 parts) and put it in its rightful state.

/please don't hurt me
 
2008-02-16 12:32:35 PM
click? I have that in poster size on the wall!
 
2008-02-18 05:32:52 PM
.. Or we haven't clicked the link yet because we've already seen it...
 
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