Good thing he was busy with obscurity and not skateboarding!

Cataholic: I forgot how things were now. When a cop asks you to do something, you have the right to question it...ponder it...decide whether you want to comply or not. And if a cop asks you to do something like, give him your skateboard, you don't have to...and he is supposed to wait patiently and keep asking for it until you give it to him...assuming you decide you want to. This is little different than "don't tase me bro." Society is supposed to stop and wait for asshats to stop committing their asshattery.

Except that's not what happened. Did you even watch the video?

Cataholic:
I forgot how things were now. When a cop asks you to do something, you have the right to question it...ponder it...decide whether you want to comply or not. And if a cop asks you to do something like, give him your skateboard, you don't have to...and he is supposed to wait patiently and keep asking for it until you give it to him...assuming you decide you want to. This is little different than "don't tase me bro." Society is supposed to stop and wait for asshats to stop committing their asshattery.

Cop has no right to take the skateboard. End of story. Search and Seizure - read it.

Unless, of course, he planned to arrest the kid and use the board as evidence. But he didn't. Which makes it an illegal seizure.

Cataholic: ...When a cop asks you to do something, you have the right to question it...ponder it...decide whether you want to comply or not. And if a cop asks you to do something like, give him your skateboard, you don't have to...

From Nolo.com

1. Can a police officer stop me on the street and question me even if I have done nothing wrong?

Yes. Even if an officer has no reason to suspect that you have done anything wrong, the officer can approach you to ask questions and ask to search you or objects in your possession (such as a briefcase). So long as the officer doesn't suggest that you are legally compelled to talk or agree to a search, the officer has done nothing wrong (U.S. v. Drayton, U.S. Sup. Ct. 2002). At the same time, a person is generally not required to answer a police officer's questions or allow a police officer to conduct a searc

Chuck Ruffcorn: I'm thinking the cop might not have been all that far out of line here.

Oh yeah, death threats to a 14 year old kid because he called him "dude". Real good police work that is.

fark you're a stupid sheep.

What farking dick.
Hope he gets his fat farking ass farking fired.

If i had to drive around in a silly black and yellow jump suit and a stupid little car like that I'd be pissed too.

As for how he acted, fark him. I used to skate in urban areas and I've gotten all types. When you see a cop you get off your skateboard and answer the cops questions.

That said, I've seen cops come from behind and almost rearend kids on skateboards while yelling out there car windows. On the flip side I've had officers walk up to me start a conversation as they are handing out the trespassing warrant.

The guy that almost ran down my friend just wanted someone to harass and yell at.

So did Fatty

Just another former high school football oaf went into the police force because he gets off on bullying and watching people cower in front of him.

I with the poster above ... no need for suspension. Just reassign him to the West Side so he can deal with some real crime with some real bad guys. We'll see how tough he is.

The trouble with this for me is that the cop got suspended with pay. If any of us, in our differing jobs, had treated a customer this way, we would have been out of a job the moment our boss saw the tape. That is the problem with the police.
If the officer really wanted to punish these kids, he could have scared the crap out of them by putting them all in handcuffs and taking them home to their parents. My parents would have given the police officer a polite "Thank You" and proceeded to kick my arse. Then there would have been a lesson learned. The only lesson learned here is that you better have it on film if you want to go against the police department. And even then, the officer may only get sent on vacation.

That video reminded me of an incident that happened when i was in highschool.

Was a senior, and had a spare class first thing in the morning (or last period of the day, depending on if it was a "flip" week or not). I used to go and get coffee every day with a friend that also had a spare that period. We were walking from the highschool to the coffee shop, through a parking lot infront of the liquor store.

All of a sudden we hear the little "whoop whoop" of the sirens, turn around, and a cops pulled up behind us. He gets out of the car and says "get in". Obviously, since even cops can be psychopaths, and i hadnt done anything wrong on that particular day, i said "What for?". The cop says "Im taking you back to school". "I dont have class for another hour, im on spare".

"Sir, im going to ask you one more time to get in the farking car and get the fark back to school".

"Im not going back to school, im on spare, i dont have class".

Next thing i know, im slammed on the hood of the cruiser, put in cuffs, and taken back to the school. He walked me right into the administration office, where they told him "He doesnt have a class to attend, hes on spare".

Never even got a farking apology and i didnt get my farking coffee, since by that time i only had about 20 minutes left. At least he took the cuffs off before he left.

And they wonder why people dont trust cops? I mean, i dont have any particular dislike for the police as a whole, but yeah, there are some real dickbag cops.

Emeraldstar: I have taught both my young kids that cops are only to be trusted if you have someone chasing you RIGHT NOW and you see one.

Otherwise the cops are not to be trusted or spoken to about anything at all. Cops are there to generate income for the townships. They are not there to protect you , or help you.

Ummm,ya. This is reinforcing what I said earlier. "Now precious little snowflakes, you don't have to respect authority. You do whatever you want. It's YOUR world. Even when you're in jail for your various crimes, you don't have to listen to those big, bad police officers"

No Scatterbrain references? (or did I just skip over them?)

Link

Baltimore Skater here. this prick needs to be put in a Baltimore lock-up for a day with all inmates knowing why and who he is. That big old anus of his will get filled right the fark up.

to tax payers: help us out and fund a skate park or two so we can live in peace and avoid bigger wastes of tax money like this. just think how much this kid is gonna be getting in future settlement.

FightDirector: Cataholic:
I forgot how things were now. When a cop asks you to do something, you have the right to question it...ponder it...decide whether you want to comply or not. And if a cop asks you to do something like, give him your skateboard, you don't have to...and he is supposed to wait patiently and keep asking for it until you give it to him...assuming you decide you want to. This is little different than "don't tase me bro." Society is supposed to stop and wait for asshats to stop committing their asshattery.

Cop has no right to take the skateboard. End of story. Search and Seizure - read it.

Unless, of course, he planned to arrest the kid and use the board as evidence. But he didn't. Which makes it an illegal seizure.

I know search and seizure well. This is neither. Skateboarding was not allowed where the kid was standing. If an officer feels that either 1. The skateboard is getting in the way of interacting with someone being detained/questioned, or 2. is likely to be used to skate where not allowed right after he leaves, then he is completely justified in taking it from the kid (at least temporarily).

He takes a kid down like that when the skinny little brat is clearly not a threat and he only gets suspended? Gimme a farking break. Goddamn I hate this farking country sometimes.
Mother farking shiat cock.

goeniegoegoe: Prolly had a fight at home and takes it out on this kids. I hope he gets punished for this.

Punished? Cops don't get punished for abusing people. He'll probably get some free vacation time (paid, of course), and then he'll go back to being the same abusive prick he's always been.

HomerButt: I love how pissed he was at being called dude.

I loved how he smacks the kid, talks about "That kind of talk will get you killed", and expects to be respected. Act like that, and I might shut up and say nothing, since you're the asshole with the gun that is threatening me, but I guarantee that I won't have any respect for you.

Badoozie: Attention citizens of Baltimore - please make sure to go out of your way to call Officer Rivieri "dude" at every opportunity. Thank you for your cooperation.

I can just see someone saying "Hey, look at that dude with the badge, and the little bitty tiny - car."

brigid_fitch: Hopefully they learned that this cop is a moron, but not all of them are. And they're certainly not your enemy. There's no excuse for this cop's behavior, but just because you see one being an @sshat, doesn't mean they all are.

This guy acted like almost every cop I've ever met. They may not all be assholes, but the odds are so high that you have to assume that when you see a cop, he's that kind of asshole.

cup of tea: The cop obviously has anger management issues, but he didn't use excessive force...

Looked to me like right after he put the kid on the ground he smacked him. (Maybe he just pushed him - looked like he whacked him to me.) Either way, that's excessive. Just grabbing him and throwing him to the ground seems unneeded, too. He hadn't told the kid to sit down, and the kid wasn't running away. The guy is screaming about "Respect", but the worst thing the kid said to him at any point was "Dude, I didn't hear you" or "Man, I didn't do anything".

NotSubby: The cop was fired, rather than having the backing of the brass or the union.

He has been "suspended pending investigation". He's still getting paid, and I think it's incredibly unlikely that he will be fired.

fredklein:

To all you farkers saying"The kid(s) deserved it!":

I hope your kid (or even you) get treated the same way. Then we'll see how you feel.

I would hope my kid would not be addressing a police officer, no matter how rude or out of line he is, as 'Dude' but instead 'Officer, Sir'.

I can see your kid probably wouldn't be as you missed that point entirely.

ElegantGoose: Cataholic: ...When a cop asks you to do something, you have the right to question it...ponder it...decide whether you want to comply or not. And if a cop asks you to do something like, give him your skateboard, you don't have to...

From Nolo.com

1. Can a police officer stop me on the street and question me even if I have done nothing wrong?

Yes. Even if an officer has no reason to suspect that you have done anything wrong, the officer can approach you to ask questions and ask to search you or objects in your possession (such as a briefcase). So long as the officer doesn't suggest that you are legally compelled to talk or agree to a search, the officer has done nothing wrong (U.S. v. Drayton, U.S. Sup. Ct. 2002). At the same time, a person is generally not required to answer a police officer's questions or allow a police officer to conduct a searc


Absolutely correct. I'm sure this comes as a shock to Fark's slacker class.

ElegantGoose

So what you're saying is that kids these days are total douches and don't respect you and you do nothing about it?

stele2: Then he would be in hot pursuit in his cop cart.



Cop cart FTW.

Idea. Put up "no skateboarding" signs, esp if in areas where they skate. If you roll up and they're skating, take the boards away, get their names and make their folks go downtown to pick them up. Worked when I was a kid, it will work now.

The kids could also band together and see if Baltimore Parks and Rec will put up a skatepark for them. Again, that worked here recently. City found a sponsor, boom, skatepark. Everyone is happy.

Come on... who HASN'T wanted to smack these little ass-clowns around at 1 time or another...

Ermungslos: ElegantGoose

So what you're saying is that kids these days are total douches and don't respect you and you do nothing about it?

That's my point. And let me say for the record, I don't agree how that douche cop handled that situation at all. But I do think that if these kids' parents would have taught him to respect people to begin with, we wouldn't have these escalated situations.

DuncanMhor:

Dick. Back-talk != Justification for assault. Ever.

That is assult? That is barely a tackle in midget football. Back-talk can be considered failure to cooperate with an officer. Enough back-talk and you get restrained. Parents should employ this tactic as well.

Baltimore Sun: "Clifford said Rivieri's suspension entails a transfer to administrative duties with pay."

I wish my job was like police work, where I could fark up royally and get paid vacation, er, administrative leave!

Aaaaaannnnnnnnd this is why we should videotape ALL encounters with our benevolent dictators.



/This ass clown also needs to be tested for roids
//after he's duck taped to a pole and subjected to public ridicule
///slashies

Magics5RIP: DuncanMhor:

Dick. Back-talk != Justification for assault. Ever.

That is assult? That is barely a tackle in midget football. Back-talk can be considered failure to cooperate with an officer. Enough back-talk and you get restrained. Parents should employ this tactic as well.

Kid wasn't restrained. Kid was thrown to the ground, and when he sat up, shoved back down.

If I walked up to you and threw you on the ground, you'd cry to the police and have me charged with assault and battery.

That is easily one of the funniest things I have seen in a while. I used to give cops grief like that when i was a kid. ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-haha...Two live Crew said it best....FARK THE POLICE.

Dirtybird971: That is easily one of the funniest things I have seen in a while. I used to give cops grief like that when i was a kid. ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-haha...Two live Crew said it best....FARK THE POLICE.

Stay classy!

Has anyone else noticed that just about every instance of "police brutality" has been the result of two stupid people (one with a badge, the other without) being jackasses to one another? And in that cop's defense, how can anyone over the age of 18 hear the phrase, "But I wasn't doing anything." while in the presence of a cop and NOT want to put the farker in a headlock. If you "wasn't doing anything", a cop wouldn't be telling you to stop doing something. Morans all around.

The only smart person in this situation was the kid off camera saying, "Dude, just shut up.". Seriously, if you're honestly not doing anything wrong (except skateboarding in a posted "No Skateboarding" area), then just shut up and move along. Simple, huh?

Gonad the Ballbarian: Come on... who HASN'T wanted to smack these little ass-clowns around at 1 time or another...

Wanting to and actually doing it is the difference between professional law enforcement and thuggery.

Here is what I would like to see:

All of the people in this thread put on an officers typical duty for 6 months and see how your perspective changes. I'm not saying that the cop didn't abuse his power a little, he did. Does it require being fired? No.

Some kids these days need a good ass kicking.

i respect cops, the work they do is dirty.

that being said, most of the ones i've met are complete farknuts who aren't quite right in the head. hiding behind shield and the gun goes so far in real life.... if you're a douchebag, the gun and shield won't hide that fact.

they usually do the job because they have no real marketable skills in the real world. ex military or legacies who do it for the right reasons at first, then get to see how crappy real people are in real life... then they get the 'attitude'. can't blame them, you'd have an attitude to if you dealt with the lowest common denominators in society for a few years.

actually... policing is a REALLY sucky job.

Ermungslos So what you're saying is that kids these days are total douches and don't respect you and you do nothing about it?

Yeah. Sure. That's EXACTLY what I'm saying.

No, dummy, there are OTHER ways to handle shiat that actually helps the kids RESPECT you!

No one in the history of the universe has EVER actually started to respect someone because the person starts YELLING at them and beating the shiat out of them.

That is called fear.

*Most* of my students do not fear me. *Most* of them do now respect me.

But the respect I get is NOT from beating them up or over-reacting to little things. It's because I find out what is behind the behavior.

By the way, when a Baltimore kid uses profanity, it's not always out of disrespect. They learn to talk that way from the very beginning. I've seen a woman tell her two year old son to sit his ass down and stop crying like a biatch.

This cop was wayyyy out of line. The kid shouldn't have called a police officer dude, but the cop shouldn't have gotten that bent out of shape about something so trivial. And the whole grabbing/pushing to the ground thing was definitely inappropriate.

It's possible these skaters knew that if they pissed him off, they'd get a reaction and thus they were prepared to get it all on tape. Surely this exceeded what they had hoped to capture.

That being said, the cop still overreacted and should have risen above the situation. Seems like that'd be something you'd learn after 17 years on the force.

Should he go back to his old job?

Abu Hamza: Baltimore Sun: "Clifford said Rivieri's suspension entails a transfer to administrative duties with pay."

I wish my job was like police work, where I could fark up royally and get paid vacation, er, administrative leave!

Some of you have real reading comprehension problems.

"Administrative Duties".

NOT "Administrative Leave".

He's filing paperwork and working in the evidence room and basically kept in the precinct for now. He's still working; he's just not out on a beat.

"WHAT IS YOUR ADDRESS?!"

"Dude, I'm from Chicago. My address is 1060 West Addison."


/someone catch this, please.

Oh, by the way, this whole thing makes me think of:

Dude!.?

All I know is if I am the kid with the camera I am totally pooping my skateboard pants.

Then selling it to CNN

The footage - not the poop BTW

I am surprised this is a big city cop. Small town cops always pull this shiat. At least that is my experience. Most of them were dorks in high school... you know the rest

Spookync: I would hope my kid would not be addressing a police officer, no matter how rude or out of line he is, as 'Dude' but instead 'Officer, Sir'.

Is slang illegal? Is informal address illegal? No, it's not. Therefore, it's perfectly legal to address a cop as "dude".

Now, as to the 'politeness' of adressing a cop as 'dude': Yes, it's possible to be more polite. However, politeness is not legally mandated, and rudeness is not illegal.

I can call The President of the United States "Georgie Boy', or "Mr. President". Either is legal. Neither justifies death threats, violence and swearing at me.

Another thing... when did skateboarders start wearing skinny jeans? When I was a kid they wore big somewhat baggy jeans and always had that wallet chain thing dangling.

/I used to totally have a skateboarder fetish.
//Now I'm old and married to an ex-inliner. Next best thing!
///He still wears the jeans and the wallet chain. So sexy.

jack21221:

Kid wasn't restrained. Kid was thrown to the ground, and when he sat up, shoved back down.

If I walked up to you and threw you on the ground, you'd cry to the police and have me charged with assault and battery.

If I was giving you a bunch of lip and you threw me to the ground, it would be justified. I deserved it. It isn't like you would come up to me if I was minding my own business and throw me down. That is assault.