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2002-10-26 09:11:01 PM  
I guess that there is a new filter that I didn't know about. I bet you can guess what it replaced.
 
2002-10-26 10:23:26 PM  
raid
 
2002-10-26 10:23:35 PM  
um. What?

How we end Terrorism:

A. Remove the Arabs.
1. Lunar Colony
2. Solar Colony

B. Remove the rest of the world.

C. France Surrenders.
 
2002-10-26 10:25:42 PM  
As for pig skins and burial in pig's manure, Chechen terrorists Maskhadov, Basayev and so on are hardly frightened with the theologians' intimidations.
Um, yeah.
 
2002-10-26 10:26:05 PM  
I am waiting for the GhostRecon mod then I will have the answer.
 
2002-10-26 10:28:11 PM  
We can't.
As long as here is hate, there will be terrorism.
s long as there are humans there will be hate.
This stuff has been going on since the beginning of time. We just give it new names as we go along.
 
2002-10-26 10:31:33 PM  
get rid of religion and you get rid of terrorism.
 
2002-10-26 10:34:00 PM  
get rid of religion and you get rid of terrorism.

If only that were true. Unfotunately some atheists do just as much evil.
 
2002-10-26 10:34:43 PM  
Damn right Sweater Girl, I think that even if every human being were the same, in every way, they would still break up into divisions, and hate the others, no matter how insignificant the imagined difference.
 
2002-10-26 10:35:32 PM  
Convince everyone on Earth that all life is precious.

Pretty simple in concept.
 
2002-10-26 10:40:08 PM  
Getting rid of religion would NOT get rid of terrorism.
Only get rid of about 95% of it.
 
2002-10-26 10:43:30 PM  
Get rid of superpowers, who are mostly untouchable by all but the other superpowers, that try to impose their will onto groups that can't compete with the superpowers.
 
2002-10-26 10:44:53 PM  
Can't compete directly with the superpowers.
 
2002-10-26 10:49:18 PM  
I don't know about Sweater Girl, but I blame all terrorism on the Romans. If the Celts were allowed to remain the dominate society, everyone would be too drunk/involved in partying for no reason to care.
 
2002-10-26 10:49:30 PM  
As my PhD advisor was fond of saying: 'why can't we all just get along?'

Well, I suppose the problem was that he was, albeit good-intentioned, completely disconnected from reality and facied himself as a knight on the proverbial shining steed (as I said, completely disconnected from reality).

So, to the punch...
Answer: remove human nature, along with its various flavors of greed, arrogance, self-riteousness, and I think we'll be OK. Kind-of boring, but OK.

(and, if my PhD advisor is reading this I have one question for you: has your son gotten out of prison yet?).
 
2002-10-26 10:49:55 PM  
1. Do whatever anyone says should be done the moment they threaten innocent civilians.
2. Eradicate America. Israel, too.
3. End capitalism.
4. Ban all religion, save Islam.

.. and there ya have it! World peace.
 
2002-10-26 10:50:12 PM  
Genetically create a fvcking giant psychic brain to "locate" terrorists, and then recreate that part of scanners where that guys head exploded.

And then keep the brain alive. Oh god, the POWER!
 
2002-10-26 10:53:04 PM  
You're right, Jayd42. Then there wouldn't be terrorism, it would be "factional fighting" between small countries. Problem solved, eh?
 
2002-10-26 10:53:20 PM  
Like the thinking bug from Starship Troopers?

Protect the brain!
 
2002-10-26 10:54:06 PM  
Everyone who's already said so is absolutely right: You can't get rid of terrorism.

Not so much because you can't get rid of the reasons that people hate each other (although you can't, not entirely), but because a lot of people really like fanaticism.

Some fanatics have other people to do their dirty work: politicians and leaders, and, by extension, armies and paramilitary forces like 'police' groups, militias, henchmen, groups like the KKK.

Other fanatics are disenfranchised, in a literal sense, and have to do their own heavy lifting. We call them terrorists.

We can, on the other hand, reduce the incidence of terrorism a great deal. Reduce cultural isolation, for one thing, so that the targets seem more human to the attackers.

But the big thing is to reduce the attractiveness of fanaticism, so that you get fewer fanatics. Not merely because that means fewer active terrorists, but, even more importantly, because it reduces their social support.

For fanatics to act out, they need larger groups of people to 'validate' them, as they say. They need social reinforcement. They need to believe that there are lots of people who stand behind them, in spirit if not in body. And it never hurts to have money sent your way.

The way to reduce the attractiveness of fanaticism . . . [drum roll] . . . is what everybody knows works: you make being in the mainstream more attractive instead.

That means all the corny crap that everyone knows it means, even if they don't like it. You make people wealthier. You give them more security (personal, social, cultural, political, you name it). You make them feel like they control their own lives and their environment.

Yeah, bread and circuses and a little freedom. Corny but true. 99% of terrorists are reacting against imperial exploitation -- or at least feel that they are.

Sometimes they're misled, sometimes they're confused, sometimes they're fighting against injustices that basically ended hundreds of years before . . . but it's almost always about fighting oppression.

Except that the people they blame almost never see it that way; they see the state of things as just being how things are, and they always think they're just defending themselves.

The bottom line is that people are stupid, and people are unhappy. Unhappy people often lash out. The happier people can either try to make stuff better for the unhappy, or they can suffer their attacks.
 
2002-10-26 10:54:58 PM  
I'd have to go with perpetual U.N. negotiations, with French negotiators. No way should military action be considered.

/sarcastic farker
 
2002-10-26 10:56:19 PM  
Cover entire world in pigs skin and pigs manure.
 
2002-10-26 10:56:50 PM  
as long as there are humans there will be hate, and as long as there is hate there will be terrorism.
 
2002-10-26 10:57:31 PM  
Way to end terrorism: Get laid and/or introduce them to the haitachi wand
 
2002-10-26 10:58:14 PM  
Once again, Pravda goes on and on and says nothing. It presents the idea of burial in pig skins, and then explains why that doesn't work. Anyway, I don't think the Russian hostage-takers were intending to die or commit suicide through a kamikaze attack. Those who did get killed were stupid enough to resist the police during the raid or do something else threatening. Those hostage-takers who were asleep were merely taken into custody without incident.

And the solution to "exterminating terrorism" has nothing to do with burial methods.
 
2002-10-26 11:03:02 PM  
We exterminate terrorism by exterminating terrorists.
 
2002-10-26 11:03:12 PM  
In other, more important news...

'BAMA BEATS VOLS!

ROLL TIDE!

HELL YES!
 
2002-10-26 11:07:34 PM  
Stop dropping bombs. Stop buying oil.

Taking their best recruiting tool and funding would make a dent. I don't believe evil people can be eradicated completely, but at least don't give them any fuel to spread their hate.
 
2002-10-26 11:15:12 PM  
A: Get rid of America

B: Get rid of Israel

C: Get rid of Chechnya

D: Get rid of Afghanistan

E: Get rid of France

F: Get rid of Germany

G: Get rid of Thailand

H: Get rid of Ghana

I: Get rid of Individuality

J: Get rid of Love

K: Get rid of Empathy

L: Get rid of Critical Thinking

M: Get rid of Teddy Roosevelt

N: Get rid of Humanity...
 
2002-10-26 11:20:25 PM  
Yeah, we could stop buying oil, but personally, I'm not too fond of spending my days foraging for enough dried dung to cook my government ration of ramen noodles.
 
2002-10-26 11:22:39 PM  
Stevarooni , you'd rather have innocent people die, rather then soldiers who are ready to/trained to die?
 
2002-10-26 11:23:17 PM  
Most terrorism today is caused by either one religious group or another. Most of them are fighting to preserve their culture or bring back their people's glory days. They are religious fundamentalists who are convinced that their way is the only correct way, and they are willing to kill themsleves and everybody else to prove it.

You want to rid the world of 99% of terrorism... find what ever defect causes fundamentalists... and wipe it from the gene pool!
 
2002-10-26 11:23:38 PM  
poodles.

big, pink, fuzzy poodles.

worked for Uzzabek...Ussibz...Uschebi...(aw, forget it).
 
2002-10-26 11:26:30 PM  
Young Fart have you ever had the government rationed ramen noodles? Thats some good shiat... you would change your tune about it if you had a couple of bowls of it.
 
2002-10-26 11:27:32 PM  
Jayd42
Stevarooni , you'd rather have innocent people die, rather then soldiers who are ready to/trained to die?


It was always my understanding that soldiers trained to fight and kill, dying is not the preferred outcome.

3Horn
 
2002-10-26 11:28:20 PM  
Yeah, someone already said the answer..

Make everyone realize all life is precious.

Sadly, a lot of people just don't believe it
 
2002-10-26 11:29:05 PM  
Actually, I like my ramen with a little olive oil and some freshly chopped basil. I'm just not sure i want to eke out my existence on it. I needs my protein.
 
2002-10-26 11:30:13 PM  
Code_Archeologist

I resent that - I had a girlfriend in grad-school who was a fundamentalist (...something-or-other).

On the other hand, that may have explained why she was so farked up in the head (y'know, can't date outside of the church, blah, blah, blah, God's chosen people, blah, blah, blah, can't wait for the apocalypse, etc. etc.). Worst two years of my life. I later learned that her own apocalypse came in the form of a Greyhound bus.

...actually, you may be right.
 
2002-10-26 11:31:30 PM  
Yeah, someone already said the answer..
Make everyone realize all life is precious.
Sadly, a lot of people just don't believe it


Well not here. If you want sanctity of life, go somewhere without coathangers.
 
2002-10-26 11:31:37 PM  
Woah.. I'm sorry man... your ex was run over by a Greyhound?

ouch
 
2002-10-26 11:31:54 PM  

Dammit Jayd42 I do not train you cookie dough assed pany wastes to die... I train you to kill. You will not die unless I order you to die is that understood maggot!
 
2002-10-26 11:34:36 PM  
Code_Archeologist: You want to rid the world of 99% of terrorism... find what ever defect causes fundamentalists... and wipe it from the gene pool!

So I take it you come down on the "heredity" side of the heredity vs. environment debate, then? Bads seeds, huh?
 
2002-10-26 11:35:02 PM  
Fart:

What?
 
2002-10-26 11:36:59 PM  
Exterminate muslims. All of them. The world will right itself at once.
 
2002-10-26 11:37:15 PM  
Lewis:

A person who is a fundy by heredity is like Chick

A person who is a fundy by environs is like Lewis
 
2002-10-26 11:37:21 PM  
Lewis well it is kind of hard to tell if being a religious whack job is an inherited trait or if it is an enviromental trait. I am hoping that it is a genetic trait, that would make it easier to eliminate... I just need to abduct about 50-60 more fundies to experiment on before I can release my findings
 
2002-10-26 11:39:07 PM  
Sorry, I meant Billy Graham, not Lewis :-P
 
2002-10-26 11:39:44 PM  
Mtman900

What what?
 
2002-10-26 11:42:13 PM  
I didn't quite understand what you meant by what you said Young.
 
2002-10-26 11:45:18 PM  
Code_Archeologist:
Sgt. whazzhisname is now doing a series on the History Channel ("Mail Call"). Oddly, he has a sense of humor and actually seems to be a nice guy. I was very disapointed.

On the other hand, he gets to shoot things and blow things up.
 
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