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(BBC)   Russia says an Iranian missile test this week raised suspicions over its true nuclear ambitions. Wait... Russia said that?   (news.bbc.co.uk) divider line 158
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2008-02-06 10:30:05 AM
Russia does not want a nuclear armed Iran. A strong, stable Iran serves their interests best. A nuclear Iran greatly destabilizes the entire region.
 
2008-02-06 10:36:36 AM
CNN reports the missile was fired from a "space center" and was named "Researcher One." Unfortuntely, "Researcher One" is only a few squiggles and a dot off from "Death to the Great Satan America."
 
2008-02-06 10:42:06 AM
Is it me, or is every argument against Iran that whatever technology they have/are getting COULD MAYBE, POSSIBLY be used for weapons that would eat our souls? (The only evidence to show it is a possibility is, "Come on, it's Iran... you think they're not? Come on... Iran."

I hear they got huge snowstorm a few weeks back.

Snow = water
water = h20
h20 = hydrogen2 oxyegen
hydrogen = H-bombs!

Wake up people! We must stop Iran from getting snow. For your children.

Come on.. it's Iran. They say they want snow cones.. pah.
 
2008-02-06 10:44:47 AM
ahwahoo2006: CNN reports the missile was fired from a "space center" and was named "Researcher One." Unfortuntely, "Researcher One" is only a few squiggles and a dot off from "Death to the Great Satan America."

Oh snap. I get jokes. Their text looks funny, and they DO say that! All the time!

So how's the strike going for you guys? I'm pulling for you.
 
2008-02-06 10:51:16 AM
Persepolis: Is it me, or is every argument against Iran that whatever technology they have/are getting COULD MAYBE, POSSIBLY be used for weapons that would eat our souls? (The only evidence to show it is a possibility is, "Come on, it's Iran... you think they're not? Come on... Iran."

I hear they got huge snowstorm a few weeks back.

Snow = water
water = h20
h20 = hydrogen2 oxyegen
hydrogen = H-bombs!

Wake up people! We must stop Iran from getting snow. For your children.

Come on.. it's Iran. They say they want snow cones.. pah.


It's so cute how you compare H2O = Hydrogen bombs to plutonium = false scare. I hope you are not serious...
 
2008-02-06 10:55:47 AM
Satan_Sunburn:
It's so cute how you compare H2O = Hydrogen bombs to plutonium = false scare. I hope you are not serious...


Uh, ever hear of 'sarcasm' chief?
 
2008-02-06 10:55:54 AM
Satan_Sunburn: I hope you are not serious...

No, I was dead serious about Iranians making h-bombs out of snow. Think of the children.

Seriously though, it is indeed something we should watch over. Dpm
t get me wrong. At this point, everthing that has been presented has been (in my estimation) propeganda and slanted views (and some repressed reports) by people who have a vested intrest in attacking Iran, and are pushing this scare for other reasons.

Worst case is rushing into action based on intellegnce that was one sided, and pushed on us by people who would benifit from such an action, and it leaves us in even worse shape than before.

Why does that sound so familiar?
 
2008-02-06 10:56:04 AM
I've been keeping my eye on Russia for a long time, and even this caught me off guard. Putin has been gambling with some crooked dice.
 
2008-02-06 10:56:29 AM
I'll be back in an hour.
 
2008-02-06 10:56:56 AM
Persepolis: Is it me, or is every argument against Iran that whatever technology they have/are getting COULD MAYBE, POSSIBLY be used for weapons that would eat our souls? (The only evidence to show it is a possibility is, "Come on, it's Iran... you think they're not? Come on... Iran."

It's definitely the basis of a lot of the argument. The problem isn't with Iran having them per se, but it's with Iran having the possibility of having weapons given the government's ties to Islamic fundamentalists who have shown that they don't fear death -- rather, they clearly welcome it, for both themselves and their enemies. The whole concept of mutually assured destruction assumes rational actors who fear their own death.

*That* is what gets people worried, IMO
 
2008-02-06 10:56:56 AM
Maybe they use these rockets to launch their homosexuals into space...
 
2008-02-06 10:56:57 AM
Satan_Sunburn: (The only evidence to show it is a possibility is, "Come on, it's Iran... you think they're not? Come on... Iran."


That and well, you know, the missiles.

Unless they're building missile shaped power plants that launch missiles so when they bark bees come out of their mouth
 
2008-02-06 10:57:41 AM
The Russians evidently thought that those pesky wogs wouldn't actually have the skill to launch something. Ooops.

/Iran has A-bombs.
//Gives A-bomb to Chechens.
///Lots of dead Russians.
////Don't laugh.
 
2008-02-06 10:58:12 AM
Anybody care to consider that maybe Iran wouldn't be bothering to develop nukes if they weren't scared shiatless of an American invasion?
 
2008-02-06 10:58:40 AM
Vlady Putin "MAN OF THE YEAR" Yea!!!!!He rocks. Last time I read "that" magazine.
 
2008-02-06 10:58:55 AM
Satan_Sunburn: Persepolis: Is it me, or is every argument against Iran that whatever technology they have/are getting COULD MAYBE, POSSIBLY be used for weapons that would eat our souls? (The only evidence to show it is a possibility is, "Come on, it's Iran... you think they're not? Come on... Iran."

I hear they got huge snowstorm a few weeks back.

Snow = water
water = h20
h20 = hydrogen2 oxyegen
hydrogen = H-bombs!

Wake up people! We must stop Iran from getting snow. For your children.

Come on.. it's Iran. They say they want snow cones.. pah.

It's so cute how you compare H2O = Hydrogen bombs to plutonium = false scare. I hope you are not serious...


Come on, aren't you a little tired of hearing about some Mullah who had a dream about Plutonium and now the US wants to take him into protective custody?
/I am
 
2008-02-06 10:59:09 AM
Russia must have received payment in full for their uranium shipment. The check cleared, now people are free to say what they think .. unitl the next shipment.
 
2008-02-06 11:00:10 AM
An incredible karma bomb is going to hit Putin and his government for the mess they've perpetuated in the region.

The Iranians support the Chechen rebels.

Instead of seeing the US as a natural ally, Putin has used the US as a convenient scapegoat (as do so many around the word) and thrown his lot in with his worst enemies. It's a shame, because Russia could be reaping the success China has had if they cleaned up some of the criminal networks and tossed the silly anti-American rhetoric.

Once Iran has the bomb, expect Moscow to go boom.
 
2008-02-06 11:00:59 AM
Well...you know...they need to put satellites into orbit because the US keeps on cutting their underwater cables supplying their internet feeds.

...Just saying...
 
2008-02-06 11:01:16 AM
Persepolis: Worst case is rushing into action based on intellegnce that was one sided, and pushed on us by people who would benifit from such an action, and it leaves us in even worse shape than before.

That is your worst case. My worst case would be us doing nothing and them getting The Bomb and the means to deliver it.
 
2008-02-06 11:01:52 AM
YixilTesiphon: Anybody care to consider that maybe Iran wouldn't be bothering to develop nukes if they weren't scared shiatless of an American invasion?

It's possible. I bet their main interest in developing nuclear weapons is to trade giving them up for something they want from the major powers. Just like North Korea. Plus, it's insurance.

Despite all the rhetoric about bringing about the end of Israel, I seriously doubt they have any desire to use them offensively, as it would likely doom them all.
 
2008-02-06 11:02:14 AM
Calvin Coolidge: Uh, ever hear of 'sarcasm' chief?


Uh, he obviously has since he seems to have understood Persepolis' point, and disagreed with it.

I was going to be meaner, but you're named after one of my favorite of all time, so I'll let you go with a warning this time!
 
2008-02-06 11:02:28 AM
Persepolis: Is it me, or is every argument against Iran that whatever technology they have/are getting COULD MAYBE, POSSIBLY be used for weapons that would eat our souls? (The only evidence to show it is a possibility is, "Come on, it's Iran... you think they're not? Come on... Iran."

Boobies covered it. i like seeing equity of distribution of technology. but the admin worries me frankly. and i interact with & like a ton of Irani /Persian folks - believe me when i say i have nothing against the people.
 
2008-02-06 11:02:30 AM
KaponoFor3: It's definitely the basis of a lot of the argument. The problem isn't with Iran having them per se, but it's with Iran having the possibility of having weapons given the government's ties to Islamic fundamentalists who have shown that they don't fear death -- rather, they clearly welcome it, for both themselves and their enemies. The whole concept of mutually assured destruction assumes rational actors who fear their own death.

*That* is what gets people worried, IMO


You're making me late for lunch but,

The mullah's in Iran like power. They worked for well over a quarter century to get into power, and they're not going to give it up for jihad, regardless of what made for TV movies would tell you.

The Iranians have had WMDs in the form of bio/chem weapons for years, without using it, or even giving it to terrorist groups to use.

Ok.. lunch for real. If you post, please be back in an hour or so to see my response. Thanks.
 
2008-02-06 11:02:37 AM
eatin' fetus:

I take no credit for that quote.
 
2008-02-06 11:03:05 AM
Satan_Sunburn: That is your worst case. My worst case would be us doing nothing and them getting The Bomb and the means to deliver it.

Actually, my worst case in the sun falling on my head. Obviously, we must bomb the sun.
 
2008-02-06 11:03:08 AM
207.199.174.56

Maybe Putin has something up his sleeve. I wouldn't put any level of trickery past him.
 
2008-02-06 11:03:15 AM
 
2008-02-06 11:04:41 AM
Uh, oh! Looks like Chimpy McFlightsuit gets to invade Iran afterall.

/yeah, right
 
2008-02-06 11:05:22 AM
Needs more Archimonde

www.wowwiki.com

"From this seal shall arise the doom of men, who, in their arrogance, sought to wield our fire as their own. Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit. Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control. Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."
 
2008-02-06 11:05:42 AM
Putin has long since crossed the Rubicon. It is the capability of Iran to reach Russia that has chilled their relationship. They are not as valuable as an instigator to the west anymore when the homeland is within Iran's sights.

Meanwhile, Americans are worked up over who black, white, Christians, Hispanics and women should vote for instead of who is the better candidate for the country and the world as a whole.

I welcome our pale Slavic overlords.
 
2008-02-06 11:06:01 AM
Satan_Sunburn: Russia does not want a nuclear armed Iran. A strong, stable Iran serves their interests best. A nuclear Iran greatly destabilizes the entire region.

When has nuclear capability ever destablilized anything? One might argue that a nuclear deterrent works! I would think the foreign occupation of a country would more likely be a main cause of destabilization.
 
2008-02-06 11:06:52 AM
Persepolis: Is it me, or is every argument against Iran that whatever technology they have/are getting COULD MAYBE, POSSIBLY be used for weapons that would eat our souls? (The only evidence to show it is a possibility is, "Come on, it's Iran... you think they're not? Come on... Iran."

I hear they got huge snowstorm a few weeks back.

Snow = water
water = h20
h20 = hydrogen2 oxyegen
hydrogen = H-bombs!

Wake up people! We must stop Iran from getting snow. For your children.

Come on.. it's Iran. They say they want snow cones.. pah.


You're so right! It's obvious that Iran could destroy us with their snowballs of destruction. Americans should be very, very afraid. Perhaps Americans should piss themselves now and save time.
 
2008-02-06 11:07:43 AM
I've got my missle aimed at this Russian.

Link (new window)

May I be so humble to solicit a 20K donation from any of you farkers? This could be TRUE LOVE!
 
2008-02-06 11:07:55 AM
That's it - I'm voting for McCain now. He will protect us from this imminent menacing threat!!!1!

/puke
 
2008-02-06 11:08:33 AM
Persepolis: I'll be back in an hour.

nice to see you in liter land again
 
2008-02-06 11:08:35 AM
I understand what Persepolis is saying that we shouldnt rush into things. Bad intellgence got us into a nasty war.

At the same time, kaponoFor3 is right in that Terrorists dont really espouse the idea of Mutually Assured Destruction.

So theres really no good answer for this one. You can bomb them and face a clusterfark that makes Iraq look pale in comparison, or you can do nothing and watch them arm themselves.

Im going to smack myself for saying this, but the best hope is probably to let Russia or Israel handle this.

Hell, China would get involved if it really came down to things. After all, they need oil just as much as anyone else, if not more, and Iran isnt hatefully far away from their growing sphere of influence.

Id put my hope in Russia. As said above, they dont want the Chechens to have new toys.

Although Russia is re-arming herself as we speak, with a new SLBM, and more than likely new ICBMs and warhead designs on the horizon.

Time to bring the Peacekeepers back out of retirement. Cold War II is fast approaching.
 
2008-02-06 11:08:41 AM
LesserEvil: An incredible karma bomb is going to hit Putin and his government for the mess they've perpetuated in the region.

The Iranians support the Chechen rebels.

Instead of seeing the US as a natural ally, Putin has used the US as a convenient scapegoat (as do so many around the word) and thrown his lot in with his worst enemies. It's a shame, because Russia could be reaping the success China has had if they cleaned up some of the criminal networks and tossed the silly anti-American rhetoric.

Once Iran has the bomb, expect Moscow to go boom.


Putin does not have to do anything at all to subvert the power of the US. The US is doing a fine job destroying their own country. Meanwhile, Putin is buidling bridges with all sorts of nations in Asia and Europe. Did you know that Russia is now a member of NATO?

That is like having an I hate David Hasslehoff club but letting David Hasselehoff join.
 
2008-02-06 11:09:08 AM
dl1137: (new window

Perisopolis beat you to it.

I'd like to visit Persia someday. It looks beautiful. The snowboarding must be awesome.
 
2008-02-06 11:11:34 AM
YixilTesiphon: Anybody care to consider that maybe Iran wouldn't be bothering to develop nukes if they weren't scared shiatless of an American invasion?

stop trying to bring rationality into this.
 
2008-02-06 11:12:00 AM
In March 1934 when Hitler publicly announced that the German army would be expanded to 600 000 men (six times the number stipulated in the Treaty of Versailles), as well as introducing an Air Force (Luftwaffe) and increasing the size of the Navy (Kriegsmarine). Britain, France and Italy, as well as the League of Nations quickly condemned these actions. However, after re-assurances from Hitler that Germany was only interested in peace, no country took any action to stop this development and German re-armament was allowed to continue.

Look, Iran has re-assured us many times that it has no designs on nuclear weapons and that their intent is purely peaceful. From such a trust worthy bunch, I think their word is solid. What could possibly go wrong? Don't we have some spare plutonium we can send over in a goodwill effort?
 
2008-02-06 11:13:08 AM
If a country is going to get nukes, they're going to get nukes. Didn't stop Pakistan or India.
 
2008-02-06 11:13:17 AM
I remember reading a BBC article about Iran's parliament approving a funding bill for the "civilian nuclear power" program. The reporter noted that as the bill passed, the entire parliament got to their feet and chanted "Death to America!". Yeah, yeah, it's their version of "hip-hip-hooray", sometimes they ignore context when using it, but okay... good reason to be a tad nervous.
 
2008-02-06 11:13:28 AM
I'm sure they had no way of knowing that this was going to happen. They must be shocked, SHOCKED at this turn of events.
 
2008-02-06 11:13:39 AM
Calvin Coolidge: Uh, ever hear of 'sarcasm' chief?

What's sarcasm?

/natch
 
2008-02-06 11:14:36 AM
Fark needs a "duh" tag.
 
2008-02-06 11:15:06 AM
Persepolis: Satan_Sunburn: I hope you are not serious...



Hey Satan_Sunburn, did you hear that they took the word "Gullible" out of the dictionary? You're a TotalFarker. Shame on you.
 
2008-02-06 11:15:12 AM
Crunch61: When has nuclear capability ever destablilized anything? One might argue that a nuclear deterrent works! I would think the foreign occupation of a country would more likely be a main cause of destabilization.

It has never happened, therefore it never will. Logical fail. You think Iran's non-nuclear neighbors would wish to remain that way? You think Iran would be non-aggressive if they had a nuclear advantage over their neighbors?
 
2008-02-06 11:15:37 AM
Skeptics armed with feelings about the past 5 years. Evidence reportedly solid for at least 15.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/wmdquotes.asp

If Iran continues to go down this path, we will attack them. Regardless of who the president is. Even Obama.
 
2008-02-06 11:16:12 AM
Dynascape: At the same time, kaponoFor3 is right in that Terrorists dont really espouse the idea of Mutually Assured Destruction.

It's harder for 'terrorists' to get their hand on the assets of a reasonably powerul, organized military than you'd think.
 
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