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(Rocky Mountain News)   Colorado Rockies to sign Scott Podsednick two years too late   ( rockymountainnews.com) divider line
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2008-01-30 12:46:20 PM  
Go Rockies!

Should have started last year with Spillboughs and Sullivan instead of Mabry and Finley. I'd like Sullivan to start the year with the team.
 
2008-01-30 01:41:08 PM  
TFA: With the loss of second baseman Kazuo Matsui to Houston as a free agent, Taveras is the Rockies' only base-stealing threat. And there is a concern about what would happen to their lineup if Taveras continues to have nagging leg muscle pulls, which bothered him last season.

1) You can't steal first. This is why smarter teams do not sign leadoff batters with a .338 career OBP, marginally below the league average.

2) You can't steal third from the bench. Subby seems to be referring to Podsednik's 2005 season as good. Podsednik had a mediocre OBP, hit for zero power as usual, and played left field, where good hitters usually live. Presumably Subby was impressed by Podsednik's 59 steals, and didn't notice that he undid most or all of that benefit by being caught an MLB-leading 23 times. Merely "running a whole lot" is not an asset.

3) He's now 32. His main asset (not really, but to his fans it's an asset) is speed, and he's coming off several leg injuries. Hint: He is not getting any faster.

4) Without Podsednik in the lineup, the Rockies as a team will not steal many bases. That is roughly as important as "only having one guy who hits triples". Last year, the Padres stole 56 bases, way less than Jose Reyes did personally, and went 89-74. The Orioles were second in MLB with 144 steals, and they went 69-93. There is very little correlation between stealing lots of bases and winning baseball games, and much of even that comes from the fact that teams that steal lots of bases are teams that frequently have guys on base.

5) Want to execute a speed strategy well? Look at the Phillies. 138 steals, 19 caught. 122 GIDP, near the bottom of the league. Don't pick up aging guys who were never an asset.
 
2008-01-30 02:05:00 PM  
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2008-01-30 02:09:01 PM  
Gotta agree with Subby.

Pods was great to watch 2 years ago, solid lead off man and a lock to take second.

I was a big fan of him and Sexon when they were Brewers, now look at them both...
 
2008-01-30 02:10:10 PM  
chimp_ninja

The problem with your post is that it's logical.

The front office of the Colorado Rockies don't follow that. They're usually the first team to scoop up retreads that match the cheap mantra dictated by the ownership.
 
2008-01-30 02:10:22 PM  
I wouldn't say Podsednik was never an asset. His 2005 post-season line was actually impressive (.286/.397/.551). Unfortunately, his career line is considerably less impressive (.272/.338/.377).

If they're not paying him much to be a 4th-5th outfielder, it's not the worst thing they could do. It's just not the best either...
 
2008-01-30 02:10:36 PM  
chimp_ninja pretty much said what I was going to say.

That said, I hope the Rockies don't start the season with Taveras in CF. When your best chance of getting on base is a bunt single, you probably shouldn't be starting. Willy Taveras' career OBP is the same as Posednik at 0.338; however, Taveras only has 3 years in the big leagues (slowly getting better). Both Spillbourghs and Sullivan are better at the plate, and Sullivan's arm is much more valuable in CF than Taveras' speed.
 
2008-01-30 02:15:12 PM  
Podsednik wasn't even good two years ago. He was just the 2005 version of the 2002 version of David Eckstein. Slap hitter, white, good bunter, fast runner, and the perfect face of "smartball."

Overrated comes in many shapes and sizes, but Podsednik is about as overrated as they come. Dude's not even a good centerfielder.
 
2008-01-30 02:17:51 PM  
thank god hes finally gone from the south side. even in 2005 he was overrated. he's just a guy who is fast. not a really good base stealer
 
2008-01-30 02:18:04 PM  
Moses To Sandy Koufax: Overrated comes in many shapes and sizes, but Podsednik is about as overrated as they come.

How can you be overrated if nobody considers you to be near the top in your sport at your position? Or, at ANYTHING in your sport, really?
 
2008-01-30 02:28:04 PM  
puffy999: How can you be overrated if nobody considers you to be near the top in your sport at your position? Or, at ANYTHING in your sport, really?


You don't remember the "smartball" craze of 2005? Bunting, sacrificing, and stealing? Ozzie Guillen was canonized for it, and Pods was the face of it all, even though he was having a below average season.

With Moneyball still fairly new in the public conscious, the 2005 WhiteSox were the perfect retort to the Oakland teams, especially for guys like Joe Morgan who completely misunderstood what Moneyball was about.
 
2008-01-30 02:34:33 PM  
Dubb:


That's not Scott Podsednik, but I like the cut of your jib.
 
2008-01-30 02:41:22 PM  
Wasn't he a left fielder? Anyway, he was the perfect fit for the WS Whitesox and caught lighting in a bottle. Now, maybe the mouth breathing white, white sox fans will let it go and move their adoration to Aaron Gray and Aaron Swisher.
 
2008-01-30 02:46:01 PM  
Wow, it took three posts before someone posted Lisa Dergan. You guys are slacking.
 
2008-01-30 02:58:32 PM  
I chuckled subby.

Is that his wife?
 
2008-01-30 03:03:22 PM  
puffy999: How can you be overrated if nobody considers you to be near the top in your sport at your position? Or, at ANYTHING in your sport, really?

You can be a below-average player like Podsednik, who the media constantly considers a 'key role player' or 'leadoff specialist'. No one thinks he's the MVP or anything, but they keep giving him a B- when he's more of a D+.

TheMatchHare: I wouldn't say Podsednik was never an asset. His 2005 post-season line was actually impressive (.286/.397/.551). Unfortunately, his career line is considerably less impressive (.272/.338/.377).

His 2005 post-season line covered 56 plate appearances. His career line covers 2,766. When signing a contract, pay according to the bigger number.

(Billy Hatcher put up a .750/.800/1.250 line in the 1990 WS. Soon after, the Red Sox doubled his salary and got his usual-ish season of .238/.283/.311.)
 
2008-01-30 03:26:54 PM  
chimp_ninja
Actually I agreed with your original post and also acknowledge that the sample size makes the rate stats misleading. I always found it ironic that Podsednik's '05 postseason didn't receive nearly the attention of his regular season in spite of being demonstrably better by a wide margin.

So long as Podsednik can play replacement level ball (which I think he can), I at least want to wait an hear a salary before I completely mock the deal. That said, it's a safe bet he'll be overpaid and the deal will be a bad one for Colorado.
 
2008-01-30 03:39:10 PM  
Moses To Sandy Koufax: With Moneyball still fairly new in the public conscious, the 2005 WhiteSox were the perfect retort to the Oakland teams, especially for guys like Joe Morgan who completely misunderstood what Moneyball was about.

What's hilarious is smallball had nothing to do with the White Sox winning. They were a pitching and defense team whose mediocre offense was extremely dependent on the HR (they hit 200 that year).
 
2008-01-30 04:10:40 PM  
Cleveland-Steamer:

Is that his wife?


yes
 
2008-01-30 04:30:25 PM  
GQueue: Moses To Sandy Koufax: With Moneyball still fairly new in the public conscious, the 2005 WhiteSox were the perfect retort to the Oakland teams, especially for guys like Joe Morgan who completely misunderstood what Moneyball was about.

What's hilarious is smallball had nothing to do with the White Sox winning. They were a pitching and defense team whose mediocre offense was extremely dependent on the HR (they hit 200 that year).



I dont have the numbers, but our rate of driving in runs regardless if by home run or by other means was great that year...Im speaking for Sox nation of course...no not Red Sox..nobody likes their socks red..and if you do you're a goon so who cares what you think...I DIGRESS..

Scotty Pods is a really likeable team player; he wasn't able to put the numbers up the last two season and his injuries have really slowed him down. I hate seeing him go, but he definitly needs to go. I wish the best of luck to him in his career and thank him for his service during the greatest year of baseball for the non-retarded Chicago baseball fans have seen in a long time.

/fark Cub Fans
//How could you hate The Rockies...they've always been so meaningless..even when they got into the World Series...
 
2008-01-30 04:50:49 PM  
LessO2: chimp_ninja

The problem with your post is that it's logical.

The front office of the Colorado Rockies don't follow that. They're usually the first team to scoop up retreads that match the cheap mantra dictated by the ownership.


Eh, it's a minor league deal with an invite to spring training to compete for a backup position. Sure, he's never been any good, but it's not like they're going to be counting on him or anything.

Basically, a total nonstory.
 
2008-01-30 04:54:47 PM  
The1andonlyZack:

I dont have the numbers, but our rate of driving in runs regardless if by home run or by other means was great that year...Im speaking for Sox nation of course...no not Red Sox..nobody likes their socks red..and if you do you're a goon so who cares what you think...I DIGRESS..


The numbers? You mean Runs per game? 4.57 that year, 9th in the AL. The 200 homeruns? That was 4th in the league. Note, the other three teams to hit over 200 finished 2, 3, and 4 in the AL for R/G. The highest scoring team hit 199.

The White Sox ERA, however, was 3.61 (3.98 r/g). That was first in the league. Both those numbers should be considered against the park factor of the Cell, which was 103 that year.

The '05 White Sox had a mediocre offense that relied on the longball. There is no way around that. They won with pitching.

Last year I was at the Cell and Pods started. I openly stated, "That guy sucks" and the lady next to me got appalled. I said, "He can't hit and he can't field." She pointed out that he was fast, therefore he had to be ok at fielding. I pointed out to her that he didn't even play CF, so his defensive speed isn't very good (he gets horrible jumps) and that he couldn't even throw the ball home.

During that game, a medium sac fly scored a run when he rolled the ball home and he went 0 for 4, with a key strikeout. She turned to me and said, "yeah, he sucks. But he is still pretty."

And Cub fans get the bad rap in this city.
 
2008-01-30 05:01:39 PM  
Dubb

Kudos for the Lisa Dergan pick. I was hoping that the Twinkies would sign him so we could have a couple of smoking hot wives hanging around the Dome this year, seeing as they already picked up "Mr." Jennie Finch this offseason.
 
2008-01-30 05:32:13 PM  
Entropy:
Eh, it's a minor league deal with an invite to spring training to compete for a backup position. Sure, he's never been any good, but it's not like they're going to be counting on him or anything.

Basically, a total nonstory.

Well, when you let your leadoff hitter/second baseman go, sign your MVP runner-up to a only a two-year deal and a backloaded, lowball deal to your stud shortstop, have a history of signing players who are clearly in their twilight, there's a pattern.
 
2008-01-30 06:12:44 PM  
LessO2: when you let your leadoff hitter/second baseman go, sign your MVP runner-up to a only a two-year deal and a backloaded, lowball deal to your stud shortstop, have a history of signing players who are clearly in their twilight, there's a pattern.

Come on now, things have changed in the last 2-3 years. Regarding Matsui, it got to the point where the Rockies wouldn't even start Kaz against left-handers (even though he hit .270 against). Don't get me wrong, the guy was remarkable last year, and a blast to watch - but he is not worth 5.5M/year. It seems they let go of Kaz because Jayson Nix is ready for the big leagues. Supposedly this guy is a defensive phenom similar to Tulo. It seems that Marcus Giles (who the Rox signed a couple of weeks ago) is only there as a backup plan, like Podsednick...

As for Holliday, lets see him perform at that level for another year or two before signing him to a long-term contract. The guy has stated again and again that he doesn't want to play for anyone else (he's one of the biggest Christians on the team).

Jesus loves the Rockies!
 
2008-01-30 07:33:39 PM  
quick fact: anyone who steals more than 50 bases in a season kicks butt. until they get hurt the next 2 years and kill your fantasy teams. thanks alot scott!

and thank you for the hot chick pic. is that his wife?
 
2008-01-31 03:45:12 AM  
hip_replacement: quick fact: anyone who steals more than 50 bases in a season kicks butt. until they get hurt the next 2 years and kill your fantasy teams. thanks alot scott!

and thank you for the hot chick pic. is that his wife?


yep. lisa dresden. mmmmmmmmmm
 
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