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bronyaur1		2008-01-29 08:55:53 PM

She is SHAMELESS. Absolutely shameless. Even a $5 BJ hooker has a better moral code than this sociopath.

crazy_gaijin		2008-01-29 09:23:21 PM

Published polls showed the New York senator and former first lady was heavily favored in the state.

Her leading rivals, South Carolina primary winner Sen. Barack Obama and Sen. John Edwards, did not campaign in Florida.

I'm not pro-Hillary, but I find it hard to consider it a tie if she's the only one that actually participated. As far as delegates go, it's a tie, but overall, I can see how it could be considered a win for Hillary.

cmunic8r99		2008-01-29 09:34:32 PM

i never understood why Democrats would disenfranchise so many voters. Let alone Florida voters. You'd think they learned something from 2000.

Radioactive Ass		2008-01-29 09:39:39 PM

cmunic8r99: i never understood why Democrats would disenfranchise so many voters.

Because they didn't want the primaries to start a week after the mid term elections...

GWLush		2008-01-29 10:12:15 PM

cmunic8r99: i never understood why Democrats would disenfranchise so many voters. Let alone Florida voters. You'd think they learned something from 2000.

This happens eery primary. If delegates were pussy would you go to the gay bar?

Con_Authority		2008-01-29 10:41:11 PM

Jon Stewart called this one perfectly. He predicted that Hillary would roll into town and claim a victory after making a deal with other democrats not to campaign in the state.

He also commented about the incredibly poor judgment the party showed in boycotting the process.

Bottom line, regardless of who wins in November, America is F@&KED.

Con_Authority		2008-01-29 10:47:10 PM

It's amazing how many people in the media are bashing Obama and he's walking right through it. I'm not a supporter of anyone in this election. Personally, I don't think any of them are fit to be an American President. But, what is being done to Obama is shameless.

So far I've seen that he's been:

Accused of being a closet Muslim
Accused of attending a madrassa
Accused of using drugs
Accused of being gay
Compared to Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton
CNN showed a graphic today stating that he had been endorsed by Monica Lewinsky

DarthBrooks		2008-01-29 10:58:53 PM

Pelosi and Dean said they'd figure a way to seat the Florida delegates somehow.

Leave it to the Democratic Party to find a way to take the ONLY person in the race who could lose to the GOP in November -- and stick her at the front of the goddamn ticket.

HMS_Blinkin		2008-01-29 11:08:15 PM

crazy_gaijin: Published polls showed the New York senator and former first lady was heavily favored in the state.

Her leading rivals, South Carolina primary winner Sen. Barack Obama and Sen. John Edwards, did not campaign in Florida.

I'm not pro-Hillary, but I find it hard to consider it a tie if she's the only one that actually participated. As far as delegates go, it's a tie, but overall, I can see how it could be considered a win for Hillary.

In other news, I beat Lance Armstrong in a bike race that only I participated in.

Barbigazi		2008-01-29 11:08:32 PM

um I think Obama just had his Dean moment. CNN is quoting him as saying the Florida results are pointless, that he and Hillary got tied on delegates so it doesn't matter.

I'd bet that by tomorrow morning the Hillary camp will be all over the news asking why Obama doesn't care about the 540,000 people who took time out of their days to cast a vote for him even though they know it won't matter. The spin is going to be that he doesn't care about your vote if it won't make him president.

If you look at the number Hillary had 140,000 more votes than McCain. Thats 140,000 more people that came out to make a bullshait vote than people who came to make one that counted. Florida matters.

Shaggy_C		2008-01-29 11:09:26 PM

DarthBrooks: Pelosi and Dean said they'd figure a way to seat the Florida delegates somehow.

ParliamentFunkadelic		2008-01-29 11:10:28 PM

She really rotskied that one.

Video of Clinton declaring her victory

Link

Makh		2008-01-29 11:11:12 PM

Would that make her possibly a good or bad president?

MikeSass		2008-01-29 11:12:04 PM

On the bright side, Castro will be dead soon and when he is the embargo will almost certainly be lifted. At that point becoming a Cuban citizen might become attractive and financially rewarding as well.

LadyBinky		2008-01-29 11:12:16 PM

I have never been this stressed out by an election. All the candidates except Obama are somewhere on the scale of terrifying or despicable.

/last night I dreamt Obama was my boss
//my job was killing zombies with fire and my car.

BBRModitha		2008-01-29 11:12:17 PM

50% > 33% the last time I checked.

TehBoognish		2008-01-29 11:12:19 PM

DarthBrooks: Pelosi and Dean said they'd figure a way to seat the Florida delegates somehow.

Leave it to the Democratic Party to find a way to take the ONLY person in the race who could lose to the GOP in November -- and stick her at the front of the goddamn ticket.

It IS Florida. I would expect nothing less.

TX-Law		2008-01-29 11:12:19 PM

I wasn't fangoriously devoured by a gelantinous monster today. Win for me too.

Grey Street		2008-01-29 11:12:31 PM

Con_Authority

Well, to be fair, Obama has admitted to using drugs (pot and cocaine, if I remember correctly) when he was a lot younger. My view is, who cares? I'd rather support someone who is honest about his drug use than someone who treats the country like morons on the issue (ahem, Mr. "I Didn't Inhale." Jesus.).

/Obama supporter

Solon Isonomia		2008-01-29 11:12:42 PM

sigh Cheater.

disillusioned		2008-01-29 11:13:01 PM

Obama had much the same to say about Michigan. Not quite a Dean moment.

If Florida were to seat the delegates, they would likely hold another caucus/vote.

Radioactive Ass		2008-01-29 11:13:18 PM

Barbigazi: If you look at the number Hillary had 140,000 more votes than McCain.

I think that you'd have to look at total numbers there, not what the individuals got. McCain got about 37% and Billary got what 60%.

retard		2008-01-29 11:13:22 PM

hillary makes me wish there was a stronger word in the english language for "absolute unadulterated pure hate"

maybe after she is crowned i will think of something...

bdub77		2008-01-29 11:13:51 PM

I'm hating Hillary more and more. Jesus lady you didn't friggin win, you reneged on an agreement that all the candidates agreed upon.

biatch.

dudemanbro		2008-01-29 11:13:54 PM

Con_Authority: Bottom line, regardless of who wins in November, America is F@&KED.

Yup.

I_Approve_Of_This_Message		2008-01-29 11:14:36 PM

She had no choice. Obama's been steamrolling Clinton in the attention department since Saturday night. Outside of the debates, she had to do something to get the attention back on her, even if it does come off as somewhat shameless.

Aexia		2008-01-29 11:14:38 PM

ParliamentFunkadelic: She really rotskied that one.

Video of Clinton declaring her victory

Link

A little too celebratory for my tastes, but I don't think she's ever looked this good on the campaign so far.

guidoanselmi		2008-01-29 11:14:52 PM

DarthBrooks: Leave it to the Democratic Party to find a way to take the ONLY person in the race who could lose to the GOP in November -- and stick her at the front of the goddamn ticket.

It's not even that-she's the most conservative democrat running.

www.freedomforum.org

Not to say photo-ops accurately portray people, but come on!

robolobo		2008-01-29 11:14:58 PM

Barbigazi
um I think Obama just had his Dean moment. CNN is quoting him as saying the Florida results are pointless, that he and Hillary got tied on delegates so it doesn't matter.

and he would be right - extra points from me for common sense. the rest of the country only pays attention to flori-tards when they screw up the elections.

LocalCynic		2008-01-29 11:15:03 PM

Barbigazi: I'd bet that by tomorrow morning the Hillary camp will be all over the news asking why Obama doesn't care about the 540,000 people who took time out of their days to cast a vote for him even though they know it won't matter. The spin is going to be that he doesn't care about your vote if it won't make him president.

And Obama will respond like so:

Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton issued a statement Tueday evening in regards to his Democratic rival. "When Senator Clinton was campaigning in Iowa and New Hampshire, she said that states like Michigan and Florida that won't award delegates, 'don't count for anything,' " Burton said.

"Now that Senator Clinton has lost badly in South Carolina, she's trying to assign meaning to a contest that awards zero delegates and where no campaigning has occurred," Burton said. "Obama is disappointed that Florida will have no role in selecting delegates for the Democratic nominee, but looks forward to competing and winning in Florida during the general election."

akula		2008-01-29 11:16:52 PM

cmunic8r99: i never understood why Democrats would disenfranchise so many voters. Let alone Florida voters. You'd think they learned something from 2000.

In 2000 they were themselves trying to disenfranchise people outside of the areas they were likely to win.

Lionel Mandrake		2008-01-29 11:17:01 PM

That fkn biatch...

Troublemakers A.C.		2008-01-29 11:17:38 PM

bighairyguy		2008-01-29 11:17:39 PM

She's just proving she's a true Democrat. A symbolic victory is always more important than a real victory.

jonathandh		2008-01-29 11:17:42 PM

a win is not a win that is not a loss to the opponent
to apply a spin on such a situation is scarcely smart
one party getting more than the other is the key component
clinton would stand a better chance had she shown some ~~heart from the start~~ boobies

ParliamentFunkadelic		2008-01-29 11:17:46 PM

Aexia

If you look closely you can see Obama too hahahaha

guidoanselmi		2008-01-29 11:17:49 PM

I_Approve_Of_This_Message: She had no choice. Obama's been steamrolling Clinton in the attention department since Saturday night. Outside of the debates, she had to do something to get the attention back on her, even if it does come off as somewhat shameless.

Yeah, but she's steamrolling Obamarama in both NY and Cali polls. This was just tasteless. Doing nothing would probably be better for her (not to say this in any way jeopardizes her lead).

/Doesn't care for Obama, but he's an acceptable lesser evil.

robolobo		2008-01-29 11:18:18 PM

hillary feels more an more like that guest that won't leave when the party is over.

/yes, i heard that story already
//no, you cannot have another tour of the house
///please just go

meepozoid		2008-01-29 11:18:20 PM

But I didn't NOT not lose.

Falcc		2008-01-29 11:18:57 PM

retard: hillary makes me wish there was a stronger word in the english language for "absolute unadulterated pure hate"

maybe after she is crowned i will think of something...

I think Viscous Loathing sounds good. Loathing so powerful it has a consistency.

/I feel that towards Hillary

Snarfangel		2008-01-29 11:19:51 PM

I remember the time Hillary won the Boston Marathon. The fact that everyone else ran it the next day doesn't detract from her accomplishment.

/or the fact that she stopped after half a mile to run in a direction preferred by focus groups.

RKTeuthis		2008-01-29 11:21:29 PM

bdub77 I'm hating Hillary more and more. Jesus lady you didn't friggin win, you reneged on an agreement that all the candidates agreed upon.

biatch.

And if Obama won, he'd do the same farking thing.

of course you'll say "no he wouldn't"

BULLSHIAT

/flame on

hackhix		2008-01-29 11:21:54 PM

ParliamentFunkadelic
you ~~She~~ really ~~rotskied~~ rickrolled that one.

A$$man		2008-01-29 11:22:46 PM

That, is the Hillary I know and love....
She would make a great Republican.

Gothmolly		2008-01-29 11:23:05 PM

What a cunning stunt !!

diamond2a		2008-01-29 11:23:05 PM

Ah, finally a thread on this.

She's going down. I'm suprised she's held on this long being so unlikable, unpleasant, divisive... What I'm afraid of is enough old people aren't keeping up with the current events and her old high polling results come to pass. If Obama shows well on Tuesday it's over, if not, I fear for this country.

gonzoimperial		2008-01-29 11:23:06 PM

RKTeuthis: And if Obama won, he'd do the same farking thing.

of course you'll say "no he wouldn't"

BULLSHIAT

/flame on

She held fundraisers in Florida and staged a rally tonight. Those are things that the candidates agreed not to do quite a while back. She won because she lied.

Mentat		2008-01-29 11:23:41 PM

RKTeuthis: And if Obama won, he'd do the same farking thing.

Obama might have done it.

Hillary is doing it.

Saiga410		2008-01-29 11:24:34 PM

Sounds like Obama is trying to spin "It aint no thing that nobody likes me."

/dislikes both of them

Soup4Bonnie		2008-01-29 11:24:40 PM

I have yet to meet any Democrat that endorses her, but I will be attending my precinct's caucus on 2/9.

I think I'll wear a t-shirt that says "Why Hillary?" and let them try to explain themselves.

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