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(News 8 Austin)   Employee fired from Chick-fil-A for refusing to pray to Jesus. Lawsuit ensues   (news8austin.com) divider line 289
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2002-10-22 02:13:45 PM
But note that you can sell Bibles and so on at Barnes and Noble, and you don't need to be Christian to do so.

But you really wouldn't be qualified to give good advice on which books were good or not.
 
2002-10-22 02:13:53 PM
10-23-02 01:34:26 AM 455H47
BOOBIES!

Anyone else notice how no matter how many posts there are, the above mentioned one is still at the bottom?

Love the l33t Asshat spelling, btw.
 
2002-10-22 02:14:57 PM
New Christian Slogan: Jeebus Slaves!
 
2002-10-22 02:15:10 PM
www.testamints.com

(courtesy of Bess Eaton Donuts, which doesn't force people to pray, far as I've heard from ex-workers)

I can't BELIEVE how stupid that management was...didn't they know it was basically throwing shiat into a fan?
 
2002-10-22 02:15:33 PM
Tuff Paws - I'm Mormon... I catch enough shiat as it is, and I say this guy loses the lawsuit and finds a job somewhere else. If you dont like the rules of the game, dont play.
 
2002-10-22 02:15:36 PM
Geez,This guy has nothing to cry about, in Hollywood, we have to sell our souls to satan on the first day, and then maybey, maybey we get 1 or 2 good films outta the deal. Geez.

Seriously, you would think a corporation would know better by now. Numbnut fanatics. They musta been warned about the potential.
 
2002-10-22 02:15:48 PM
Not to play the devil's advocate, but what about the business owner's right to free speech? If he wants to run a Christian restaurant, I say go ahead. If the muslim doesn't like it, he can go work elsewhere, just like if I went to work for a Middle-Eastern deli, and I didn't want to pray to Allah five times a day. I mean, what's a muslim doing eating, much less working in a restaraunt that touts Christianity so much? Maybe he was wrongfully terminated, but I hope they only give him lost wages. Lawsuits are not a get-rich-quick scheme for fry jockeys.
 
Ant
2002-10-22 02:16:15 PM
As a "privately owned" company they can be centered around Jesus, Tolkein, Einstein or whoever the hell else they want.

Would you like Frodo fries with that Baggins burger?
 
2002-10-22 02:16:16 PM
I'll tell you, nothing beats that feeling you get from Jesus: bloated, yet happy; greasy, yet good; guilty, yet so satisfied.
 
2002-10-22 02:16:27 PM
Anyone else notice how no matter how many posts there are, the above mentioned one is still at the bottom?

Looks like have a little H4X0R on our hands. The fark guys had better figure out how it happened. ;)
 
2002-10-22 02:17:02 PM
VinDiesel, it is In N' Out Burger.

they have several, google and you'll find em.
 
2002-10-22 02:18:43 PM
I used to work at McDonalds when I was younger. It was weird working on sundays, because I would have all kinds of people coming to the window telling me about the glory of God. I had one lady come through and tell me that the necklace I was wearing was evil and I needed to get rid of it. (It was a quartz crystal necklace)
So I told her, "What about the cubic zirconia earrings you are wearing and the gold necklace you have on? Aren't they evil as well?"
She told me no, just my stuff was, as if it was plain as day. I just gave her her money and told her to have a nice day.
I'm glad I wasn't brainwashed as a child.
 
2002-10-22 02:18:44 PM
Who cares if Chick-Fil-A is owned by, run by or patronized by Christians? They have the right to run their business as they see fit.

They have a right to run their business as they see fit, as long as they are also in compliance with local employment laws, etc. You know, those pesky ones that have to do with discrimination in hiring/firing, etc...
 
2002-10-22 02:18:48 PM
Anyone else notice how no matter how many posts there are, the above mentioned one is still at the bottom?

yeah it's the Boobies time warp

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you know private businesses have a right to believe in whatever they want and promote what they want, but how did this guy get to manager without praying? And then the moment he first doesn't pray he's fired?
I want more details darn it, seems like something is missing
 
2002-10-22 02:18:53 PM
I've confused myself...I personally think it's OK for small companies to maybe employ people with similar faith if they want to, but I am not so sure about large corporations...I don't think Chick-Fil-A is really a large corporation though...I don't think he should have sued...just gone to work for someone else.
 
2002-10-22 02:19:19 PM
And to all saying that "he should have know better", I call SHENANIGANS!

He shouldn't have known better. If they're going to require their employees to pray, than they should say so before they hire them. Oh wait, they CAN'T, because it's ILLEGAL. Oooopppsies.
 
2002-10-22 02:19:44 PM
Ah yes, nothing like a talkback with a bunch of pseudo-intellectual atheists being grossly intolerant of Christians. Stunning brilliant in their hypocracy. Truely they are the elite.

Ah yes, they disagree with you so call them pseudo-intellectuals.

Yes a private business has a right to have any belief it wants. It doesn't have a right to hire/fire people based on their religion. Funny how some christians will fark over other people in the name of christ, even though that was exactly what christ was against.
 
2002-10-22 02:20:45 PM
Verm:Ah yes, nothing like a talkback with a bunch of pseudo-intellectual atheists being grossly intolerant of Christians. Stunning brilliant in their hypocracy. Truely they are the elite.

We're just returning the favor. I know you x-tians like to think you have the corner on the market of smug intolerance, but t'ain't neccesarily so. Doesn't taste so good when it's served back to you, does it?

Ant:Devout Atheist? You're kidding, right?

de·vout' - adj Sincere; earnest: i.e., devout wishes for their success

No. Why?
 
2002-10-22 02:20:51 PM
But see I dont think that chick-fil-a should have fired him either...that ticks me off too...forcing religion on employees...bleh.
 
2002-10-22 02:20:59 PM
Verm

Allow me to introduce you to Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (Title VII), which prohibits employment discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex, or national origin.
 
2002-10-22 02:21:26 PM
Ah yes, nothing like a talkback with a bunch of pseudo-intellectual atheists being grossly intolerant of Christians. Stunning brilliant in their hypocracy. Truely they are the elite.

Who cares if Chick-Fil-A is owned by, run by or patronized by Christians? They have the right to run their business as they see fit. Chick-Fil-A has never been bashful about their leanings, this guy musta had his turban on too tight if he did not understand where he was going to work.


fortunately in this country, we don't have "the right to run their business as they see fit." while this seems off hand to be a good thing, if they "saw fit" to serve maggot-ridden meat, they would get shut down for health violations. so also are their labor practices regulated--if they "saw fit" to require employees to work 80 hours a week for $1/hour, they would be shut down. so for a fine employee to be fired on grounds only for refusing to pray to jebus may violate labor laws.
 
2002-10-22 02:21:56 PM
Ant

Devout Atheist? You're kidding, right?

Don't see why. An atheist is taking a definite stand on the existence of God, and could be coinsidered devout in the sense of 'sincere', otherwise often known as 'militant'.

It's the agnostics that are so damn casual about things...
 
2002-10-22 02:22:35 PM
OH HOHOHOHOHOHOHO HO!

KA-ching!
/$$$

/but the lawyer will take a THIRD
:(
 
2002-10-22 02:22:42 PM

10-22-02 02:13:53 PM Father_Jack
10-23-02 01:34:26 AM 455H47
BOOBIES!

Anyone else notice how no matter how many posts there are, the above mentioned one is still at the bottom?

Love the l33t Asshat spelling, btw.


Father_Jack

Such is the way of the wonderful and mysterious filter, which hath converted the unspeakable heathen words--which rhyme with "Burst Roast!"--into "BOOBIES!" and sent them hurtling through a portal in time so as to teach a lesson to would be Burst Roasters. Glory be to the filter.
 
Kiz
2002-10-22 02:23:39 PM
Huh. With their "don't eat beef" campaign, I guess I always assumed that they were Hindus. Go figure.
 
2002-10-22 02:23:58 PM
Shreen, how the hell is that shoving it down your throat? you drink and the damn drink and eat.....it is no different then having "Contains: Sugar....etc"

ya dork ;)
 
2002-10-22 02:24:14 PM
WEENERS!
 
2002-10-22 02:24:31 PM
But you really wouldn't be qualified to give good advice on which books were good or not.

Sure, but then that might be a better example of where it's OK to hire employees that are of a specific religion--e.g. where it's a bona-fide job requirement. If you run a christian bookstore, you might be able to require your employees to be christians...maybe.

I would also imagine the Christian Coalition would be allowed to only hire christians.

But Chick-Fil-A's main operation is serving fast food, and you can do just as well whether you're an atheist, a christian, or a muslim.
 
2002-10-22 02:25:21 PM
great weather graphic tho. very realistic lightening.
 
Ant
2002-10-22 02:25:27 PM
Ant:Devout Atheist? You're kidding, right?

de·vout' - adj Sincere; earnest: i.e., devout wishes for their success

No. Why?


The word 'devout' usually refers to religion; atheism is a non-religion. I'm an atheist too, but I've never described myself as devout
 
2002-10-22 02:25:55 PM
they are definitely a little nutty as far as religion. I saw a hiring catalogue they sent our college of computing, the first page was all about their goal to glorify god. blah blah blah.
 
2002-10-22 02:26:24 PM
VinDiesel They both do. In-N-Out is mormon owned, I believe. The bible verses are on their T-Shirts (check the license plates on the drawn cars).
 
2002-10-22 02:26:25 PM
This really pisses me off, but not enough to make me stop eating their sandwiches! They're yummy (even if they ARE too expensive).

10-22-02 01:36:40 PM Farkwicket:

Best. Topic-related-Photoshop. Ever.
 
2002-10-22 02:26:57 PM
I just find it such a shame the way Christians are so persecuted and oppressed in this society. They couldn't say that if it weren't true, could they?
 
2002-10-22 02:29:47 PM
father jack - apparently it's b/c that post doesn't happen til tomorrow.

anyway . . . they guy should've known that he was going to work for a company run by Christians . . . they still shouldn't have fired him for not praying. prayer is a heart-matter, anyway . . . the guy could've mumbled a few words to satisfy the asshats, and apparently they wouldn't have known the difference.
 
2002-10-22 02:29:47 PM
My mom calls it Chick-A-Fil for some reason :|
 
2002-10-22 02:29:48 PM
I boycott domino's based purely on the food.
 
2002-10-22 02:29:49 PM
Why did it take this guy almost TWO YEARS to file the lawsuit?

He says he was fired from his job at a Houston Chick-fil-A restaurant a day after he refused to pray to Jesus Christ during a training session in November 2000.

The lawsuit filed Monday...


Did it take him that long to find a lawyer that would take the case? I'd think they'd be lining up for it. Or was he so stupid he didn't realize he was unfairly fired until now? Something smells about this lawsuit, and it ain't burnt chicken.
 
2002-10-22 02:30:33 PM
In America, we do not discriminate on the basis of color, race, or creed.

So eat it.
 
2002-10-22 02:31:55 PM
From another article regarding this item:
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/metropolitan/1627243

Chick-fil-A's no-work-on-Sunday mantra has been in effect since S. Truett Cathy, founder and CEO, opened his first fast food restaurant in 1946. Cathy reportedly conducts Monday morning prayer gatherings at his corporate office open to all employees who wish to attend.

Companies may conduct such prayer meetings as long as attendance is not pegged to promotions, salaries or job assignments, said Jim Sacher, a regional attorney for Houston's Equal Employment Opportunity Commission office.

Sacher said he knew of no similar lawsuits by the EEOC against Chick-fil-A. Any complaints against the chain are confidential, he said.
 
2002-10-22 02:32:12 PM
I worked at a Chick-Fil-A Dwarf House for 8 months. I washed enough dishes to last me the rest of my life. Overall, it was a nice place to work though, even though the work was hard. And I don't remember hearing anyone so much as mention Jesus the whole time I was there, other that the occasional, "Christ! That grill just burned the fark out of me!" I knew the place was closed on Sunday because the founder was really religious, but that was all I ever heard of it.
 
2002-10-22 02:32:38 PM
Verm: Ah yes, nothing like a talkback with a bunch of pseudo-intellectual atheists being grossly intolerant of Christians. Stunning brilliant in their hypocracy.

Atheists aren't being hypocritical by being intolerant, since they don't (as a group) espouse a "love everyone" philosophy. Christians, on the other hand, are being hypocritical when they're intolerant, because they do.

Moron.
 
2002-10-22 02:33:09 PM
What's with the people siding with the buisiness? Buisinesses aren't entitled to discriminate for any reason anymore. Private holding is irrelevant.

If I go apply for a position at the Christian Armory and they find out I'm agnostic and fire me, I can sue for discrimination.

It's the same as if I had a store, and found out I had fundies working for me, I couldn't just fire them offhand.
 
2002-10-22 02:33:34 PM
ut Chick-Fil-A's main operation is serving fast food, and you can do just as well whether you're an atheist, a christian, or a muslim.

Ya...I agree.
 
2002-10-22 02:33:52 PM
Ant: The word 'devout' usually refers to religion; atheism is a non-religion. I'm an atheist too, but I've never described myself as devout.

I guess it IS kind of anoxymoron, but I've always liked the juxtaposition.

I just kinda read "devout" as passionate...And I am. Not pushy or sanctimonious, but passionate. I often find myself playing the part of reluctant activist. Not "reluctant" because I don't believe in what I say, but reluctant because I'm usually the only one who has enough guts and mental resources to speak for the opposition, so I must take up the mantle even if I've not the time or energy.

It's a durty job...But somefarker's gotta do it.
 
2002-10-22 02:34:00 PM
What would jesus do?

Fire his ass!!

What's left to talk about?
 
2002-10-22 02:35:14 PM
10-22-02 01:38:22 PM Foxxo:
why would you even apply to a store whose "corporate purpose" is to "glorify God" if you didn't believe in that stuff?

Well, if he was Muslim, he would absolutely want to glorify God. But to a Muslim, praying to Jesus does not glorify God, it offends God.
 
2002-10-22 02:36:05 PM
DHWalker: I just find it such a shame the way Christians are so persecuted and oppressed in this society.

Oh? How?
 
2002-10-22 02:36:30 PM
Hufnmouth, it ain't mormon owned, if it was...ya'd see BoM quotes...not Biblical ones.

it was started by a Christian family.
 
2002-10-22 02:38:08 PM
Welcome to the Fark Method of public embarrassment, 455h47.
 
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