For what? Engaging in the satanic arts by having a buggy that moves without horses attached?

I can't say I disagree with this ruling.

After all, if you have enough money to purchase a new car, then what are you doing in North Dakota?

That'd be pretty outrageous if it happened in a state where there were things to do other than watch wheat grow.

The_Talented_Mr_Richards: I can't say I disagree with this ruling.
After all, if you have enough money to purchase a new car, then what are you doing in North Dakota?

Buying a car and then driving back up to Winnipeg?

The_Talented_Mr_Richards: After all, if you have enough money to purchase a new car, then what are you doing in North Dakota?

Driving back to Canada.

Yet another excuse to pull someone over for DWB.

FTFA:

In concurring with the majority, Justice Dale V Sandstrom added that no motorist could ever drive through North Dakota with a temporary registration card issued in another state.

"The law does not establish that the appellant was entitled to operate his vehicle in North Dakota with a valid Montana temporary registration certificate," Sandstrom wrote.

Could someone with some legal savvy explain to me how the Full Faith and Credit clause doesn't apply here?

People live in ND?
People in ND have cars?

Sweet, I drove through North Dakota with a Montana temporary registration on my car. Granted I was doing 140mph at the time (what a god awful place to be)

Ignorance Stupidity of the law is no excuse son!

I got stopped in Ontario (Canada) with my temporary Michigan tags for the same reasoning. (Thank you strong Canadian dollar, and stupid Canadian car retailers unwilling to deal). I however had all my paperwork in order, and was not driving drunk or carrying anything illegal, so was only detained for a couple of minutes. I think anyone with temporary tags should consider themselves "suspect", and act accordingly.

GoldDude: I got stopped in Ontario (Canada) with my temporary Michigan tags for the same reasoning. (Thank you strong Canadian dollar, and stupid Canadian car retailers unwilling to deal). I however had all my paperwork in order, and was not driving drunk or carrying anything illegal, so was only detained for a couple of minutes. I think anyone with temporary tags should consider themselves "suspect", and act accordingly.

What are they to consider themselves suspected of?

SilentStrider: that's ok, North Dakota wasn't using those civil rights anyway.

That's okay, no one was visiting North Dakota, anyways.

tiiger: Buying a car and then driving back up to Winnipeg?

overlord: Driving back to Canada.

So I'm assuming that taxes on vehicle purchase in Canadia are (IYO) excessive?

Soup4Bonnie: GoldDude: I got stopped in Ontario (Canada) with my temporary Michigan tags for the same reasoning. (Thank you strong Canadian dollar, and stupid Canadian car retailers unwilling to deal). I however had all my paperwork in order, and was not driving drunk or carrying anything illegal, so was only detained for a couple of minutes. I think anyone with temporary tags should consider themselves "suspect", and act accordingly.

What are they to consider themselves suspected of?

any/everything

GoldDude: I think anyone with temporary tags should consider themselves "suspect", and act accordingly.

Should citizens of New Jersey in the 80s-90s have considered themselves "suspect" because their drivers' licenses were laminated cardboard and therefore easier to fake than other states'?

YouPeopleAreCrazy: So I'm assuming that taxes on vehicle purchase in Canadia are (IYO) excessive?

Actually, I think it's just that cars simply cost way more up in Canada, despite their currency now being stronger, etc. I don't think it's much to do with taxes, just stupid car manufacturers.

/doesn't live in Canada

By this rationale, anyone attempting to use a ND drivers license in any other state in the US is now susceptible to arrest for being too stupid to leave that state or kick out dumb$#it lawmakers. It's obvious.

//satire
///feel sorry for them, their judges should go back to 8th grade and retake Civics class.

ricodued: Actually, I think it's just that cars simply cost way more up in Canada, despite their currency now being stronger, etc.

Can you say "embedded taxes"?

/I knew that you could..:)

WOW.

Nevermind that the officer admitted he was unfamiliar with temporary tags. Nevermind that the officer is so completely unprofessional not to familiarize himself with a neighboring state's temporary tag, something that, unless it's the cops first day on the job, he is LIKELY to come in contact with at some point in his/her career. What is truly scary here is that the court has just given support to none other than: dumb cops.

Justices: "Eh? You say you just didn't know that the car was in compliance? Well hot damn, that's good enough for a search!"

Not only do I hope this guy appeals, I hope the justices get booted. This is unimaginably wrong.

Since common-sense of the law doesn't seem to be a priority for the NoDak cops and courts, the state just became less of a priority to visit.

They should be ashamed.

This reminds me of a time when I was hanging out with a friend of mine going through law school. I asked him what kind of law he wanted to practice and was surprised when he said criminal defense. I thought he was joking, and his answer made me have a lot more respect for him. He said he wanted to go into criminal defense, not to help murderers and rapists go free, but to make sure that our legal system is held accountable to its own set of pretty well thought-out rules and regulations. His point was: if nobody cares to hold cops accountable for their actions, they'll eventually start taking the law into their own hands, outside of what the system tells them to do.

That happened in this case. It's wrong to drink and drive, but making an illegal search legal after the fact is worse.

these guys already knew about this

He was pulled over because of his registration. He was arrested for drunk driving. I don't feel bad for this guy at all.

Next up, stopping vehicles with license plates from other states, simply because ND law enforcement isn't familiar with out of state tags.

I loved the story about the guy from Kalifornia that thought a vanity plate of NEW was a good idea.

He did not know that Nevada was holding 10,000 parking tickets for him...

/no plate
//this years model
///yep, new works as an entry on the form

Hoboclown: He was pulled over because of his registration. He was arrested for drunk driving. I don't feel bad for this guy at all.

Maybe not, but he shouldn't have been pulled over in the first place. We're fortunate to not be subject to unreasonable search and seizure in this country.

Not like North Dakota was America's Vacation Spot or anything...

The good news is that the cop didn't lie and say he pulled the guy over for erratic driving.

This happened to me in Florida.

IN 1991. (Minus the DUI, but they still impounded my car for two days).

This is stupid and ridiculous and nothing new, and just another indicator of the Soviet-style "Show Us Your Papers" mentality that this country has turned to.

Amerika, the... oh, nevermind, we ain't beautiful anymore and we suck.

Still disturbing to read news from my hometown on fark. *sigh*

However, what happens more often than not in this type of situation up there (speaking from experience after being pulled over or having some sort of police interaction after not having plates but having the paperwork in the back window) is they ask if you just bought the car and don't even check out the information on it. I ended up in a ditch along that god awful interstate between Fargo and Grand Forks and one officer didn't even get out of his car to check, just asked about the plates.

This is a guy trying to get out of a DUI. There had to be more going on than just not having plates. What constitutes getting pulled over for a possible DUI anyway? I've had to audition for my freedom simply for driving out past 3am.

/stupid late night sessions
//and stupid hennepin bridge in Minneapolis

the officer claimed he was unfamiliar with the temporary registration form used in the nearby state.

Great! Now all we need is some police officers who are unfamiliar with absolutely everything, and they'll be able to stop anybody for anything at all!

Oh wait, I think we might already have some of them handy.

Hoboclown: He was pulled over because of his registration. He was arrested for drunk driving. I don't feel bad for this guy at all.

Because if your innocent what do you have to hide?

/dumbass arguement.

Why in the hell would anyone drive to North Dakota?

/From, yeah, but to?

Politank-Z: Could someone with some legal savvy explain to me how the Full Faith and Credit clause doesn't apply here?

The legal premise involved is acutally pretty simple: SHUT UP, STOP THINKING, DON'T QUESTION, AND OBEY!!!!

Anytime you are out in public you are subject to some over ambitious cop wanting a look around your pockets and take a hair sample to protect and serve. (it's a cookbook) I forgot about that busting down the door thing. I feel so safe. Just as every cop is a criminal and all your sinners saints...

north dakota...south dakota's north korea

Holy shiat, the scary part is the one justice that wrote a concurrent opinion that no temporary registration from another state is legal in North Dakota.

what an asinine ruling.....welcome to the soviet states of america ...papers please!

i understand the occasional pullover of suspect automobiles but to rule that everyone cannot drive with temp tags in state is bullshiat.

one day a buddy of mine and i picked up a car in Arizona and made it all the way to Arkansas (on our way to Georgia) before being pulled over because of the temp tags. the officer made up some b.s. .."we see a lot of weird stuff coming out of Arizona". next thing i know he searching the truck. then he said "you need to have a plastic enclosure with your temporary tag affixed to your bumper". what a crock. the paper was clearly installed on the rear window. nothing illegal and no drinking but at least he caught a nice wiff of unwashed ass

Politank-Z
as far as my non-lawyer mind can understand, it's a state court and can get away with the ruling until someone appeals it to a federal court?

Guilty until proven innocent, gotta love it.