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2008-01-21 05:34:44 PM  
darkjezter: Loadmaster: I'll let you in on the secret: Women want confident, assertive guys. Guys who know what they want and act like it. "Nice" is a woman's criteria for her clothes, not her men.

Which makes us both right, of course, because the aggressive jerks with all the chicks are very assertive, who know what they want and generally get it. It's just that they've taken their assertiveness up to the neanderthal level, and most women can't see the difference.


When a guy says he is a "nice guy" and is bitter about women not choosing him, I'm more likely to think the "nice guy" thing is a pose. If you feel you deserve women because of the nice guy thing, than it's just a tactic. It might be a good or bad one, but it's a tactic nonetheless, not a position of moral superiority. Lots of truly nice guys get women all the time--they are upfront about what they want. Try it. Bitterness and passive aggression are not attractive.
 
2008-01-21 05:47:44 PM  
Nobodyn0se: From my experience, I put the odds at... 90%. No offense. It's nothing personal. It's just that, at least around here, ALL the assholes have steady girlfriends, and all the nicest, most loving guys are single. And it's depressing to see.

From my experience, I put the odds at... 100% you are right.

/nice
//loving
///single
////and like the McDonald's saying goes, I'm lovin' it
//too many women have too much of the crazy in them to try and have any type of long lasting relationship with them
 
2008-01-21 05:49:03 PM  
slincy: One unforgettable day he finished fixing my car, escorted me into his office, and proceeded to kiss me until my socks fell off!

Sounds like his aim was a little off.

Maybe it's the "nice guy" in me, but I would have thought making out with a married woman was the kind of thing aggressive jerks do.

Wasn't there, of course, and take your word about the "bad marriage" bit.

I will say that, as the "nice guy," I never lacked opportunities to see my aggressive jerk friends end up with girls who wouldn't give me the time of day (and I did make first moves and let it be known what I wanted). I've since learned a lot, and now can pass along that wisdom to my son, who (through some mechanism yet to be understood)* is actually very handsome. Of course, he'll be four in the spring, so we have a while 'til he'll need it...

* No, his mom lacked opportunity, and he has some of my characteristics
 
2008-01-21 05:59:44 PM  
RearedOnMetal
Maybe it's the "nice guy" in me, but I would have thought making out with a married woman was the kind of thing aggressive jerks do.


I agree with you. End bad marriage first, then look for nice guys.

I will say that, as the "nice guy," I never lacked opportunities to see my aggressive jerk friends end up with girls who wouldn't give me the time of day (and I did make first moves and let it be known what I wanted).

Maybe the women you picked just didn't want what you wanted? That doesn't mean they wanted jerks. There may have been other qualities or values they were seeking in the men you think of as assholes.

I've since learned a lot, and now can pass along that wisdom to my son

So a woman DID give you more than the time of day, at least once. Are you saying you were an ass to the mother of your child and if so, do you really believe that's the reason she had sex with you? If so, I am not sure you are as nice as you think you are.
 
2008-01-21 06:02:11 PM  
My girlfriend is 5 feet tall and 85lbs
 
2008-01-21 06:13:44 PM  
Aunt Crabby: I will say that, as the "nice guy," I never lacked opportunities to see my aggressive jerk friends end up with girls who wouldn't give me the time of day...

Maybe the women you picked just didn't want what you wanted? That doesn't mean they wanted jerks. There may have been other qualities or values they were seeking in the men you think of as assholes.


Oh, they were (don't we say asshats any more?). Treated the girls like crap for a while, then moved on. Sure they were looking for what I couldn't give them. I had no confidence, looks, money - I don't in the least blame them for passing me by.

So a woman DID give you more than the time of day, at least once. Are you saying you were an ass to the mother of your child and if so, do you really believe that's the reason she had sex with you? If so, I am not sure you are as nice as you think you are.

Oh, she gives me the time of every day, and of my life. I finally found a young lady who got to know me (as a co-worker), and see the positive qualities you don't get to in first impressions. It took me a long time after that to convince her to stay with me for more than sporadic casual ... dating, but I got my way, and we're now 12 years into a very successful marriage. Not saying I wasn't an ass to her at times along the way, and she wasn't (isn't) always that nice to me, either, but we were both smart enough to see that the good outweighed the bad. Either way, ass-ness was never why she consented (alcohol, on the other hand...). Believe me - I don't think ALL women gravitate toward ass-fedoras - I'm inclined to go with the 90%+ figure someone floated.

I'm doing my (we're doing our) best to raise our daughter to look beyond the superficial. If we succeed, she'll be a knockout and a nerd. Hottest girl at space camp. I hope you all wish us luck (she's 6, so wish me luck a decade-plus into the future, if you don't mind).
 
2008-01-21 06:16:45 PM  
GIS for "fat and rich"

www.matthoover.com
 
2008-01-21 06:31:42 PM  
RearedOnMetal
:) Okay. I wish you luck. I just wanted to point out that with effort, most nice guys can get a nice girl (insofar as any human is "nice" and not, at least sometimes, an asshat).

Sounds like you are doing well. I just wish guys like you would advise young men "get to know someone and connect as people first" instead of reinforcing the "most women want assholes" idea. Your wife didn't settle down with a jerk, and your daughter shouldn't have to grow up to expect it either (and what dating advice share with your son, you share with your daughter, even if it is not directed at her).

Sorry to lecture. As a (mostly) nice woman, I don't like to think the "nice" girls so easily forgotten just because some other woman was shallow or hurt someone. Maybe "nice" is in the minority for both genders, but it is out there if you look for it.
 
2008-01-21 06:32:07 PM  
EsteeFlwrPot: I'm a nice girl looking for a nice guy. Where am I supposed to find you people?

How YOU doin?
 
2008-01-21 06:50:32 PM  
EsteeFlwrPot: I'm a nice girl looking for a nice guy. Where am I supposed to find you people?

This!!
 
2008-01-21 07:26:40 PM  
Yo' mama so fat, she thinks a stick of butter's a side dish.
/how come I'm the first one in 250+ posts?
 
2008-01-21 07:31:40 PM  
Wareq:

Nice! Good question..(/how come I'm the first one in 250+ posts?) I believe that this thread is dying.
 
2008-01-21 07:34:34 PM  
HornedFrogsFan: This!!

Hey, you're even in my city.

EIP, for you or anyone else who wants a "nice guy".

But I'm not holding my breath.
 
2008-01-21 07:55:49 PM  
doFartsHaveLumps: Beauty is only a light switch away.

I can smell ugly even in total darkness.
 
2008-01-21 08:00:13 PM  
This just begs the question, how rich and how fat? I am tubby but can have regular seating at a restaurant or on an airline, and while I'm no heiress, hubby didn't drop one red cent for our down payment on our house. I've purchased all of our furniture and appliances and make more money than he does. He hates it and we've had to re-budget on his behalf, so that we can get closer to 50/50 on expenses. And before I get flamed for this, let me state that my other half is a hard working guy and that I support him in his career, though it is not the best field to be in now (sales). I've noticed though that guys don't care for it much when their wife/gf makes more money than they do, even if it's not by much.

/not that I'd care, I'd be okay with being a housewife again, maybe
//still rather be somewhat fat and have a little bit in the savings account and bow to a male ego than compromise the love of my life
///so how many women would rather be fat than single? There's an interesting quiz, seeing as how us married heifers are easy to spot :)
 
2008-01-21 08:29:49 PM  
Nobodyn0se:

Hey, I tried to AIM & email you the other night, but it didn't work for some reason!!

/My computer kind of sucks
 
2008-01-21 08:37:28 PM  
HornedFrogsFan: Hey, I tried to AIM & email you the other night, but it didn't work for some reason!!

Ummmm....


Make sure AIM is installed,then add my name (noticing the last o is a zero).

OR just send an e-mail to kj1­031­[nospam-﹫-backwards]eta­t­s­xt­*e­d­u
 
2008-01-21 08:59:36 PM  
HornedFrogsFan: Hey, I tried to AIM & email you the other night, but it didn't work for some reason!!

Or you could just give me yours....
 
2008-01-21 09:29:51 PM  
shirtsbyeric: My girlfriend is 5 feet tall and 85lbs

Dude, she's, what...11?
 
2008-01-22 01:27:11 AM  
littlett's: I think I would rather be thin and poor. So I guess that I must be happy, seeing as I am both.

How You Doin'? ;)
 
2008-01-22 01:44:54 AM  
Fluff Girl: If I looked like Jennifer Anniston, I would never leave the house.

You look a lot better than Ms. Anniston ... ahem ...
 
2008-01-22 02:45:30 AM  
I have a chip on both shoulders, so it keeps me balanced ... else I'd be like Qasimodo >:>
 
2008-01-22 10:11:47 AM  
Most American women are unfit to be rendered into soylent.
 
2008-01-22 10:30:56 AM  
Glad I live in a country where women don't get fat, even after having children. The mothers in Japan all seem to get back to being thin quickly. Whenever I see a mother with a baby, I wonder how the baby fit inside.
 
2008-01-22 12:00:41 PM  
hamachan: Glad I live in a country where women don't get fat, even after having children. The mothers in Japan all seem to get back to being thin quickly. Whenever I see a mother with a baby, I wonder how the baby fit inside.

My trip to China a few years ago was eye-opening, to say the least. Imagine an entire country where almost every woman, even those past middle age, are thin to normal size. Very few woman are overweight (by US standards at least).

They do have KFC and McDonalds, but so far the effects of rampant fast food have not been seen there yet.
 
2008-01-22 07:49:11 PM  
Never been fat, never been rich, have been happy before.

/Personality for the win.
//Wealth in charms and friends, fit in mind and body.
 
2008-01-23 11:54:53 AM  
littlett's: jslicer: littlett's: I think I would rather be thin and poor. So I guess that I must be happy, seeing as I am both.

Since nobody else has mentioned it yet... How YOU doin'?!?

Skinny and poor....just skinny and poor.

/ Dang now I have that Gewn Stephani "If I were a rich girl" stuck in my head.


Gewn who?
 
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