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2008-01-20 04:08:24 AM  
Why would you want to remake "Escape from New York"?
 
2008-01-20 04:19:37 AM  
They already remade Escape from New York.

It was called Escape from LA.
 
2008-01-20 07:22:58 AM  
Disgruntled Goat: They already remade Escape from New York.

It was called Escape from LA.


People don't talk about that in polite company.
 
2008-01-20 07:25:09 AM  
At the risk of igniting the brains of every movie geek on the Internet, I must ask the following:

Why do sci-fi/horror fans react to remakes the way they do? People, have you seen "Escape From New York" lately? It is ripe for a remake. It is horribly dated and probably unwatchable for future generations of film fans -- genre pictures generally age the worst -- so why not update it for the new kids? It's not like they're remaking "Citizen Kane" with Carrot Top in the title role. They're remaking a glorified B-movie directed by one of the most overrated "talents" of all time...let them. And I say all this as a sci-fi/horror nerd, and a fan of Carpenter's work, especially "The Thing" and "Big Trouble in Little China."

Even those who are most repulsed by this idea could be pleasantly surprised. Remember how upset you were when some whipper-snapper named Zack ("300") Snyder remade "Dawn of the Dead" a few years back, and then remember how blown away you were when you actually saw it?

/waiting for a remake of "Hellraiser," personally
 
2008-01-20 07:41:50 AM  
quizkid8279: Zack ("300") Snyder remade "Dawn of the Dead" a few years back, and then remember how blown away you were when you actually saw it?

I remember being "blow away" by it. If by "blown away" you mean thinking what a typical piece of Hollywood B.S. it was.

It is horribly dated and probably unwatchable for future generations of film fans

What is horribly dated? The prisoners needed laser guided rocket bombs? Not enough obvious CGI shots?

If someone thinks "Escape From New York" is too dated and unwatchable they are 99% of the reason movies suck so hard now. Because they are the ones being pandered to.
 
2008-01-20 08:12:18 AM  
I want to see a remake.

The original is campy. Never thought it was that great anyways.
 
2008-01-20 08:36:21 AM  
I'd rather see a sequel to 'The Thing'. Or maybe an AvP movie that didn't suck, suck, and suck. Why not a Ringworld movie, with Kzinti, Pak Protectors, and Puppeteers.

There are plenty of movies can be made which aren't retreads of older movies.
 
2008-01-20 09:01:05 AM  
log_jammin:
What is horribly dated? The prisoners needed laser guided rocket bombs? Not enough obvious CGI shots?

If someone thinks "Escape From New York" is too dated and unwatchable they are 99% of the reason movies suck so hard now. Because they are the ones being pandered to.


QFT
 
2008-01-20 10:12:17 AM  
Disgruntled Goat: They already remade Escape from New York.

It was called Escape from LA.


That has joined the realm of "films that never happened," like "Highlander 2" and "The Godfather 3." Refusing to accept the reality of those happening is the only thing keeping me sane.
 
2008-01-20 10:37:03 AM  
Snake? Snake Pliskin? I thought you were dead?
 
2008-01-20 10:50:57 AM  
log_jammin: If someone thinks "Escape From New York" is too dated and unwatchable they are 99% of the reason movies suck so hard now. Because they are the ones being pandered to.

I think he means that it lacks music video editing.
 
2008-01-20 11:58:13 AM  
To be honest, what they should really do is to make a 3rd installment of the series, with Russell, but make it in the vein of the 1st movie. Escape from LA was horrid. But at least it had the real Plisken. Russell is still young enough that he could pull it off.
 
2008-01-20 12:04:42 PM  
Befuddled 2008-01-20 08:36:21 AM
I'd rather see a sequel to 'The Thing'.

A sequel,yes, but not a remake. The two versions of The Thing (50's and 1982) are both just fine the way they are, no need to improve. The John Carpenter remake worked because it differed enough from the 1950's one, not one single creature but an organisim that could take over hosts. So even though the Kurt Russel one is itself a remake, I'd hate to see it remade.

Great dialogue in the 1950's one, by the way. A bunch of dry smartasses stuck in the Arctic with a monster., makes me laugh when I watch it.

It is horribly dated and probably unwatchable for future generations of film fans


I have read stuff about how some people find it difficult to watch the movie and see Snake land on the World Trade Center even though the movie is supposed to be "set in the future". Uh, I think the movie is set in the future of 1996, right? Besides, I know it sucks to see the WTC in movies and remember the pain of its destruction and the slaughter of those people, but are we supposed to remove it from all movies?

As for remaking Escape From New Yrok, I could see that, I guess. Escape From LA sucked really,really bad, so maybe they need to re-boot the 'franchise', if you want to call it that. And we all now these re-starts are the hip and happening thing in Hollywood right now.
 
2008-01-20 12:37:49 PM  
Look, I'm sick of remakes. I don't care what you're remaking. A campy cult classic, or an icon of cinema: STOP.

Think about what you're doing. Do you want to squander your creative energies on the same ground that has been trod again and again, or would you like to explore a new idea, give us new characters and settings?

Oh, right. Creativity isn't bankable.
 
2008-01-20 02:36:22 PM  
The 50s Thing isn't that great, the producers having jettisoned almost the entire story to which they had bought the rights. Carpenter's Thing is the John W. Campbell story brought to life. Calling the 80s Thing a remake is stretching it. It's actually the first filmed version of the the story "Who Goes There?"

I can imagine a remake of Escape From NY being a decent action flick, but lacking all the elements that made the original fun. Let's blow shiat up!
 
2008-01-20 02:59:49 PM  
I'm still waiting for Escape From Topeka.
 
2008-01-20 03:25:53 PM  
Freak of Nurture: I'm still waiting for Escape From Topeka.

Try a Greyhound ticket.
 
2008-01-20 04:41:02 PM  
How does one improve upon the sublime coolness that was Escape From New York?

Answer: One does not. It's unpossible.
 
2008-01-20 06:24:04 PM  
Freak of Nurture: I'm still waiting for Escape From Topeka.

Yeah? Well many people have tried and failed.

The entire population, in fact.
 
2008-01-20 08:41:53 PM  
FTA:
'Kurt Russell, it appears, was equally under-whelmed by news of the remake. This is not particularly surprising as pulling on the boots and eye-patch of the anti-hero Snake Plissken was probably the high point of his career.'

Ouch!

Im surprised he didnt say this or 'Captain Ron'.
 
2008-01-20 08:54:18 PM  
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Will they be able to inlcude Andrea Barbeau cleavage in the remake?
 
2008-01-20 10:40:36 PM  
I'll give you the reason this will suck.

The reason is that This (new window) opening and score will be replaced by a cover by whatever_generic_band_currently_on_the_charts_sounds_the_most_like_Sta​ind.

Mark it.
 
2008-01-21 12:21:06 AM  
Shrugging Atlas Quote 2008-01-20 04:41:02 PM
How does one improve upon the sublime coolness that was Escape From New York?

Answer: One does not. It's unpossible.

QFT
 
2008-01-21 01:19:19 AM  
I would rather see a sequel with Russel playing a "getting to old for this" Pliskin. I think it would be cool to see old man pliskin kicking all kinds of ass.

Remember in escape from LA when they are surfing? WTF?
 
2008-01-21 01:35:04 AM  
Hibno: I would rather see a sequel with Russel playing a "getting to old for this" Pliskin. I think it would be cool to see old man pliskin kicking all kinds of ass.

Remember in escape from LA when they are surfing? WTF?

The closest you'll get to that is Metal Gear Solid 4 with Geriatric Snake as the lead.

(It's been confirmed several times over the years that the Solid Snake character is based on Snake Plisken, even going as far as using "Iriquois Plisken" as part of a phony cover name in MGS2, with Iriquois being Sioux for "Snake".)
 
2008-01-21 09:48:09 AM  
Escape From New York was awesome because of the cast.
 
2008-01-21 01:53:18 PM  
Atomic Jonb: Escape From New York was awesome because of the cast.

I was watching "The Directors" on Reelz recently and the subject was John Carpenter. Now, I've always liked John Carpenter's movies. This is mostly because of the casting. As a director I've always felt he was always falling just short of greatness. He makes high grade B movies with great character actors and mediocre scripts and gets the most out of the materials he's given.
I remember laughing my butt off watching "Big Trouble In Little China" when I was 15 in 1985 and I still find it funny today. I remember having the bejesus scared out of my by "The Thing".
That said, I think he has a much better reputation in Europe because they are a little more adverse to the Hollywood money machine and like to see a director work with actors and stories more than big dollar special fx.
So here's my point... I don't think someone could remake "Escape from New York". There's just no way it would be the same film. The remake may be a good action film or a crappy suspense film or whatever. But I don't see it being a remake except it has the same characters and a few of the same plot points.
 
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