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(The Smoking Gun)   Mug shot of the guy who misled police about Home Depot sniper   ( divider line
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2002-10-19 02:13:23 AM  
I bet Bubba is looking forward to his return...
2002-10-19 08:17:47 AM  
2002-10-19 08:18:41 AM  
Absence makes the heart grow fonder. And the sphincter is given valuable healing time.
2002-10-19 08:19:15 AM  
Fish Fish Fish Fish
2002-10-19 08:19:23 AM  
nice looking young man
2002-10-19 08:19:35 AM  
This guy needs an asshat tag to go along with a 10 years sentence as someone's biatch.
2002-10-19 08:20:48 AM  
nice rap sheet. If convicted he's going to the pen...i mean home.
2002-10-19 08:21:05 AM  
I keep seeing 'Bubba' mentioned in prison references - am I right in thinking this is the US version if the UKs 'Big Ron', a man you dont want within a 100 yards when you drop the soap in the shower block?
2002-10-19 08:21:51 AM  
Asshat tag stampers needed.
2002-10-19 08:25:05 AM  
this man should be thoroughly ashamed of himself!
2002-10-19 08:25:44 AM  
[image from too old to be available]
2002-10-19 08:28:02 AM  
I keep seeing 'Bubba' mentioned in prison references - am I right in thinking this is the US version if the UKs 'Big Ron',

Another is big bertha for the female and some cop buddies I know like to tell people they arrest to look out for lawrence.
2002-10-19 08:29:09 AM  
[image from too old to be available] Bubba the Love Sponge?
2002-10-19 08:29:39 AM  
what i dont get is how did they know he was lying?

did he admit to it or something?
2002-10-19 08:31:26 AM  
He should be executed.
2002-10-19 08:31:26 AM  
Im glad we have such nice upstanding convicts working these days. Its assuring to know that if I want to go to Home Depot some day, that I can get the help of such a fine young man as this.

Good lord, his rap sheet is longer than his dick!@ How does someone like that get a farking job? Get them out of society and put them somewhere where they belong, like hell!

ok, im done ranting
2002-10-19 08:34:39 AM  
It's Federal "pound me in the ass" Prison for you, farko.
2002-10-19 08:43:40 AM  
The home depot sniper?

it's a bit abstract

he's not really targeting home depot
2002-10-19 09:06:50 AM  
What chu talkin' about, Willis?</i?
2002-10-19 09:08:03 AM  
Damn it! >
2002-10-19 09:12:23 AM  
Call Zed and bring out the Gimp.
2002-10-19 09:13:44 AM  
What we need here are some really inventive prosecutors who could charge this guy with something more than just filing a false police report. Why not aiding and abetting first-degree murder? By sending police on a three-day wild goose chase, this shiatweasel may have helped the sniper escape, potentially putting an unknown number of lives in danger.

I want this guy to spend every minute from now until he's a withered old man trying to shield his rectum from a rough dose of cellblock justice.
2002-10-19 09:31:32 AM  
10-19-02 08:21:05 AM Rupturedtoad
I keep seeing 'Bubba' mentioned in prison references - am I right in thinking this is the US version if the UKs 'Big Ron', a man you dont want within a 100 yards when you drop the soap in the shower block?

You are correct sir /Ed McMahon

Also known as being "Leroy's Biatch" or "Bubba's Biatch" Usually black, usually big. Some place that *I* don't want to be.
2002-10-19 09:38:53 AM  
10-19-02 08:29:39 AM ImNotaBuddhist
what i dont get is how did they know he was lying?

did he admit to it or something?

Aparently he was inside home depot when the shooting took place. Seing as how he doesn't work for Ms. Cleo....
2002-10-19 09:40:25 AM  
obviously this brother's got hat head from wearing that giant RECTUM on he haid.

i only hope he dont git off SCOTCH FREE
2002-10-19 09:41:04 AM  
Can someone explain his rap sheet to me??

TOTAL SENTANCE: 18 years, 34 months???

Doesn't that make it 20 years and 10 months?? Or is this a Y2K glitch??

Dude is 37 years old, he's been someone's girlfriend for a long long time. Wonder if he'll show up on Oz. :D
2002-10-19 09:44:21 AM  
OMFG.... it's Wesley Willis!

Prison joke coming... a guy gets sent away to the big house for life, and he's looking awkwardly at his towering, six-foot-ten cellmate Leroy.

"Looks like we're gonna be together a loooooong time," says the cellmate.

"Yeah," answers the new fish. Leroy is a _scary_ sumbich.

"And that means it's like we're married, huh?"

The new guy shakes with fear. "Uh... yeah, I guess."

"So which one do you wanna be, da husband or da wife?"

The new guy breathes a sigh of relief and says "THE HUSBAND!"

Leroy settles back in his bunk and says, "Great! NOW GET OVAH HEAH AND SUCK YO' WIFE'S CACK!"
2002-10-19 09:44:55 AM  
I don't even need to comment. Look at him.
2002-10-19 09:51:04 AM  
[image from too old to be available]

...just an observation.
2002-10-19 09:52:30 AM  
you were thinkin it while i was photoshopping it diabolik... what's in YOUR morning formula? ;-)
2002-10-19 09:53:34 AM  
LloydChristmas & 51 - thanks for the info!
2002-10-19 10:05:27 AM  
The biggest loser here is the media, who jumped all over the guy's statements without ASSessing his credibility as a witness. And now we have to support this loser in jail for six months for lying. At least our communities are safe from liars.

Truth is golden. Truth comes from above, polished and presented by the media in an unquestionable font.
2002-10-19 10:06:45 AM  
I hope this doesn't seem hopelessly anal; but, the preferred spelling is NUMSKULL. No 'B.'
2002-10-19 10:10:41 AM  
Home Depot? I thought the unfounded illogical connection was to Michaels? Damn, my media-approved crackpot theories are out of date again...
2002-10-19 10:12:46 AM  
eraser8... how can you even think of a thing like spelling at a time like this?

we need to all pull together and ridicule this guy.
2002-10-19 10:15:20 AM  
Jersey: Vodka and Red Bull!

Gonna get some breakfast now. McDonalds is the place to rock...
2002-10-19 10:27:19 AM  
That guy's already spent over 15 years in jail... what's another 6 months?
2002-10-19 10:27:36 AM  
Bling Bling!
[image from too old to be available]
2002-10-19 10:37:45 AM  

racist and humorous good combo.
2002-10-19 10:44:36 AM  
zoloft, coffee and a chicken biscuit here.
2002-10-19 10:44:55 AM  
welcome to fark ImNotaBuddhist. He was just jumping on the bandwagon. Guess you didn't see the other posts
2002-10-19 10:51:52 AM  
cheap knockoff...

what's to bandwagon about.

smoking gun published the guy's picture and the WORLD AT LARGE is free to draw whatever conclusions it pleases.

the way i read it, is that by the guy's appearance, it's no surprise he was arrested for some public nuisance.
2002-10-19 10:56:46 AM  
He sho'nuff gots some hellacious hathair!
2002-10-19 10:58:37 AM  
Um, if this guy worked at the Home Depot he would have zero 'bling-bling'...
2002-10-19 11:01:19 AM  
I don't think the guy should go to jail. No sirree. I got something better.

Post this mugshot all over the DC/Maryland/VA area. Then everybody who walks past this guy, or waits on him in a store or whatever, is allowed to give him a good punch to the head/gut/genitals/etc. At least this is what I'd like to do with him.
2002-10-19 11:04:48 AM  
I think we are all to quick to judge. The hair style is simply because his cap is not there. (notice the little side cap flips? This style has really replaced the mullet I tell you!) We must know what his cap logo was before we can condemn!
2002-10-19 11:09:26 AM  
Stocks,Webalina,let's have a referendum to install Stocks for every downtown area of every city everywhere.yo.
2002-10-19 11:10:18 AM  
Let's paint a big fat target on Assmunch here and parade him up and down the Beltway as bait
2002-10-19 11:18:09 AM  
Hey , mabey the sniper could start taking out asshats like this guy
2002-10-19 11:18:58 AM  
if'n we did install stocks , how would y'all torture this Gentleman while he is contained....let's say.......for 30 days
2002-10-19 11:55:58 AM  
eraser8, both spellings are acceptable.
2002-10-19 11:57:27 AM  
He's spent more time more than free time. He sure has got a pretty face. Looks like a screamer too.
2002-10-19 11:58:08 AM  
Eunice Stone surrenders?
2002-10-19 12:07:01 PM  
Something tells me Johnny Cochran won't be defending this guy.
2002-10-19 12:12:18 PM  
I didn't read this article, and I don't have anything relevant to add to this discuassion, but I just tried to submit a link to an article about Japanese taxi-hookers, and it told me that it had already been done! I had a look but didn't see it anywhere on the specified date here on Fark.
Won't somebody PLEASE think of the Japanese taxi-hookers!?
2002-10-19 12:22:51 PM  
If anyone cares, I submitted the mugshot as a Photoshop contest, partly because the ones in this thread rock hard. Just letting you guys know, and so the TotalFarkers' PS supremacy isn't so bad. RaineirWolfcastle, silly German man, TotalFark's where your taxi-hooker link would be, if it ain't on the main page.
2002-10-19 12:40:07 PM  
Eleven crimes committed in 85, mostly robbery, and assault, but none since. It's nice to see that he's turned over a new lea...oh, right, nevermind....
2002-10-19 12:43:15 PM  
This stupid DC sniper attack senario has all the hallmarks of a "government"-inspired psy-op (psychological operations) project.

A lone man CANNOT pull off EIGHT successful sniper attacks WITHOUT detection in broad daylight without having several accomplices help him out and to have other teams acting in complicity to cover his sharp-shooting a$$.


1)A lone sniper must choose a site, get set up, be steady in his aim, fire successfully, get quickly to the vehicle and leave without a trace--all in broad daylight with a lot of people around...and do this eight times? No, not likely. Guns are noisy and they attract a lot of attention the moment the firing commences.

2)A team of at least three or more is needed. A get-away driver, a spotter and a shooter; plus, given the many reports of certain over-sized vehicles reported right at the times of the shootings, it is likely that others are involved (by two-way radio contact) to act as visual decoys in their movements of the vehicles to distract witnesses' attention while the real culprits sneak away. Classic psy-op situation. Foreign terrorists cannot pull this off right in a huge city in broad daylight. Given that this event has happened EIGHT times, the sheer number of successes without any arrests alone points quite strongly to the "government" as being the real culprit--very few cops/agents are aware of the actions done by psy-op guys, so there are many "government" agents who are running around with their heads off while the psy-op guys are laughing their a$$es off at the bumbling incompetence of their peers and the stupidity of the frightened, gullible public.

Don't believe the AP--Ass-nine Propaganda. Already their PRIME witness has been discredited--what else in their bullsheeit stories are full of sheeit?


A useful site:
2002-10-19 12:50:30 PM  
Tarzan: granted, the AP sucks, but I think maybe you should have Jane check your tinfoil head wrappings :)
2002-10-19 12:53:56 PM  
Guns don't make that much noise if you wrap wet towels around them or have a silencer. You can easily hide in a back alley or shoot from under a car or something and no-one will hear your shot, or care, because the victim's 300-yards away. He's also not double-tapping, and he's not tracking a specific victim, so he could probably get set up in 3 minutes, find a target in 2, fire, throw his shiat in the van and take off in under 2 minutes, and get out of there without attracting any suspicion. He doesn't need a team or anything, and you'd be AMAZED what you can get away with in broad daylight if you care to try it, because people aren't paranoid like you are and are usually more concerned about their own problems than those of other people, and don't want to get involved.
2002-10-19 01:01:26 PM  
Ad hominem attacks--done by those who have no better alternatives to offer.

Read this:
2002-10-19 01:04:44 PM  
Si is it racism if a black guys says it was a middle eastern guy?

or is that just saved for crackers?
2002-10-19 01:11:29 PM  
JerseyDope, you're right. Ridicule must come first. This guy is an assclown.

Now that that's out of the way...

Tribs, both spellings are acceptable. But, numskull is preferred.
2002-10-19 01:17:41 PM  
The word of the day is "xenophobia," folks.

2002-10-19 01:30:28 PM  
This is not the work of the government, or even of a professional gunman.. if either of this two types where involved you would not hear the shot until several moments following the victims fall.. no this is the work of a couple of asshats with a case of meglomania..the shooter is probabaly someone who was kicked out of boot camp given a dishonorable discharge or has only dreamed of being in the far all the shots where made from 100 yards or less at targets standing still or moving directly towards or away from the point of fire..i agree with Veritron, you would be surprised what you can get way with in broad day light.. while i'm at it let me add something to the mix and see what you guys think..I was in D.C. back in july and there was someone running around supposedly in a white van shooting darts at people.. you don't suppose this is the same guy who has up the anty???
2002-10-19 01:42:57 PM  
when are we going to get a [image from too old to be available] tag?
2002-10-19 01:46:03 PM  
Too bad for him, Bubba probably uses those magical condoms...
2002-10-19 01:47:48 PM  
10-19-02 09:38:53 AM Blandarfleck
Aparently he was inside home depot when the shooting took place. Seing as how he doesn't work for Ms. Cleo....

Given her outstanding abilities...maybe he did...
2002-10-19 01:50:08 PM  
what about the children??? whould someone think about that children ?!!!?!?!
2002-10-19 01:50:44 PM  
(simpsons) ^^^
2002-10-19 01:53:58 PM  
My first hint that this guy was making this up is that he described the sniper as dark-skinned... serial killing is almost exclusively a white man's crime.
2002-10-19 02:00:16 PM  
This guy's saying the same thing that I am:
2002-10-19 02:08:21 PM  
Tarzan, you're right. If it's on the internet, it's got to be true.
2002-10-19 02:09:48 PM  
hehe... the tin-foil-hat brigade at work again :-)
2002-10-19 02:19:17 PM  

I don't want to be too much of a devil's advocate here, but...

How do we know he isn't telling the truth?!

2002-10-19 02:29:05 PM  
This guy's saying something different:
2002-10-19 02:49:55 PM  
Words and their power to mislead:
2002-10-19 02:53:02 PM  
That article was written with words, and is therefore misleading!
2002-10-19 02:57:14 PM  
Bah, you didn't look at my link, so I'm not going to look at yours. And I know you didn't look, because the webcounter on Geocities is still at 5 for that page.
2002-10-19 02:57:32 PM  
what a jackasshat... the cops should also be thrown in jail for believing him
2002-10-19 03:06:50 PM  
thank you for not using the term "asshat" in the tag.

i hereby found a league of farkers for the abolition of the term "asshat," a word unbecoming of an intelligent and creative person.
2002-10-19 03:12:30 PM  
Is that guy drooling?
2002-10-19 03:20:52 PM  
I bet he looks much better with the had he was wearing.

goes to show you, asshat fbi believed him...he looks like a credible witness to me.

also goes to show FBI doesnt have any real info or they wouldnt have pursued an ass like this for information.
2002-10-19 03:26:31 PM  
"How do we know he isn't telling the truth?!"

He admitted that he was inside the store at the time of the shooting after being questioned further. So since he wasn't actually outside or near the outside there is no possible way he could have seen what he says he saw.

Tarzan you need to turn off FX and stop watching X-Files.

I'm placing bets that the shooter is gone. They found a van with shell casings at a rental car places near Dulles. I bet he's outta there and is going to take it up in another city. Or if he's still in the area he is getting a new vehicle and new weapon, that would explain why he's been quiet all week long.
2002-10-19 03:46:42 PM  

I did look at that link that you provided--I did not see anything relevant to the topic under discussion. I'll paste it on my browser and try again right now to see if anything different comes up.


I don't watch TV; I get my news from the internet and, while not the whole of the internet is truthful, there is far more reliable information on the net than there is on the Tell-a Vicious lie medium.
2002-10-19 03:52:22 PM  
working definition of conspiracy - seems fairly prevalent in the world, doesn't it?
2002-10-19 03:55:07 PM  

Don't you have anything better to offer? That site--the same thing came up the second time--is nothing but sarcastic parody of "research". I prefer links to real research sites, thank you. Here's one:
2002-10-19 04:01:59 PM  
BTW guys, Tarzan is a conspiracy nut who thinks that there is a zionist conspiracy to dominate earth, he thinks that the illuminati is involved, freemasons, CIA, FBI, etc etc. He's your classic paranoid delusional conspiracy theorist who eats up pretty much everything he reads.
2002-10-19 04:04:37 PM  
And please don't bother trying to convinced Tarzan otherwise. Its a waste of your and his time.

Just accept the fact that he'll never quite grasp reality in the way you or I do. Or as Tarzan would like to say, he'll take the red pill, we'll take the blue pill :-P
2002-10-19 04:12:10 PM  

"Reality"--I don't "grasp" reality? Oh really?

Ok, let's take a common currency that most of us touch in our everyday realities: money.

Can you tell me about the source of the currently-used (a pun) form of the "US dollar"? Can you tell me about the nature and cause of the power of the source of that currency? Who owns it? Who has the power to control it?

There's an everyday reality that all of you can tell me.

Ok, have at it and see who has a firmer grip on the "reality" of the US dollar that you touch nearly every day. Go ahead; try it. I dare you.
2002-10-19 04:13:18 PM  
I have heard that the police were originally skeptical of him because he knew too much about the weapon used, when from the vantage point he claimed to have had, it would have been impossible to identify. The weapon he claimed was used was also very rarely used in crimes of this type. After some rigorous questioning, he admitted he was inside HD the whole time.

Federal prosecutors have sworn that he will do jail time. Maybe not the ten years' maximum that his crimes allow, but he will go to jail.
2002-10-19 04:21:28 PM  
BTW guys, Tarzan is a conspiracy nut who thinks that there is a zionist conspiracy to dominate earth, he thinks that the illuminati is involved, freemasons, CIA, FBI, etc etc.
That's why I gave him that link. I figured I'd give him something that made no sense whatsoever to play with.

Err, try this link.
2002-10-19 04:26:08 PM  
Tarzan = [image from too old to be available], and here's why:

You make an alright argument about how the gunman would have accomplices, but you make a crappy one as to why they (as in the conspirators) would have government ties/assistance. Also, all you have is a theory based on partial information, and not even the full amount of information that law enforcement officials already have. And no where in your theory do you have any real hard evidence on why the government is involved. Now, if you wanted to present your idea as a possible explanation of what's up, you could make a decent case- but as things are right now, it is far from the only explanation. We really don't have much to go on in regards to evidence of the sniper's MO, and to weigh one possibility as being the only one is foolishness, at best. I further ask you, what would this rogue government agency have to gain from sowing such terror? If the King George wanted to use this to further his "anti-terror, more power for me!" agenda, a lot of trumped up info implicating Middle Easterners would be released; instead, the one person implicating them has not only been discredited, but in a very public way.

Anyway, when you come onto Fark and lay out crack-pot theories as fact, don't be surprised when people label you a crackpot. And anything on the internet is just as suspect as anything you'll see on cable, hear on the radio, or read in a newspaper. In fact, I would say moreso.
2002-10-19 04:27:13 PM  
that was supposed to be, Tarzan = [image from too old to be available]

My html skillz be not mad nor ninja pimp today.
2002-10-19 04:27:49 PM  
damn google...
2002-10-19 04:34:29 PM  

I already tried that link, as I recognize it from url bar on my 'puter.

I will check back from time to time to see if anyone has anything SUBSTANTIAL to support their grips of our common reality of handing the "US dollars".

I resent your sheeity treatment of me. I have seen that there are a lot of intelligent people on this Fark board, as demonstrated by your own words and by the numbers of people with fairly high IQs who had taken this fark'n IQ test a while ago--either that or there's a hell of a lot of liars on this board. It is most likely that those who had taken the test and gotten boast-worthy scores could not help but share the results with others, which is an action that seeks validation from others--a normal, natural human trait that many of us share.

The other day I got down to your level and got involved in a lot of mud-slinging, with the kinds of results that I anticipated. It's not a productive way to reach people's minds, clearly so. People's minds are where most wars/battles are won or lost, so it is that battlefield that I choose to participate, rather than picking up physical weapons and using them.
2002-10-19 04:42:12 PM  
[image from too old to be available]
2002-10-19 04:44:15 PM  
I'll do some research on this money thing. Keep checking that link for updates.
2002-10-19 04:54:48 PM  
Tarzan's gone... I guess Nurse Ratchett locked up the computer room.
2002-10-19 04:56:08 PM  

Point taken. There are so many threads in the whole of the matrix of society that it would be far too difficult to tackle any of them without taking up far too much of our collective time, hence my challenge to all of you to tell me your grip on a common reality that we all share: money.

Let's focus on that issue alone and let's see who on this board right now can share what their grips on the reality of money are like?

Calling people labels like "crackpot", "nutcase" is unfruitful for everyone involved because the use of labels alone prevents anyone from thinking clearly about what information someone else may have, however unpopular they may be. Recall that our Founding Fathers were very unpopular at their time--they were called "crackpots" by those who were loyal to King George. Is today any different?

A real crackpot (I'm using this label generally, not specifically) may say things that are so antithetical to obvious facts that such a crackpot would clearly be delusional; such as saying that the sun rises in the west, sets in the east.

The label "crackpot" does not apply to me. The use of a prejudicial label to me--and others who's views do not fit the mainstream propaganda model--frequently would hide the truth of any situation from you. You seek the truth, do you not?
2002-10-19 04:57:54 PM  

I don't think the guy should go to jail. No sirree. I got something better. Post this mugshot all over the DC/Maryland/VA area. Then everybody who walks past this guy, or waits on him in a store or whatever, is allowed to give him a good punch to the head/gut/genitals/etc. At least this is what I'd like to do with him.

LOL! I was thinking something similar. Just make him wear a white sweatshirt with a big bulls-eye on the front and back, and make him walk everywhere he wants to go.
2002-10-19 05:05:27 PM  
Sentence the dumbass to pumping gas at stations near major highways.
2002-10-19 05:14:56 PM  
Okay, I'm seeking the truth here on this money thing, and so far I've found the Columbian Drug Lord-Cement connection. Researching the dangers of cement led me to the fact that the official wildflower of Tennessee is the passion flower. I'm thinking there's a connection with either the Anti-Botanist Society of America or the Christian Coalition. Should I just keep following the money on this, or am I on the right track?
2002-10-19 05:16:23 PM  
along with the dumbass Guardian Angels?
2002-10-19 05:16:49 PM  
Dang, my research links were stripped from that. I'll put them here.
2002-10-19 05:17:37 PM  
I'm seeking the truth behind money shots... and doing lots of research using evidence I've collected on DVD :-)
2002-10-19 05:19:39 PM  
Good call, clevershark . . . obviously, the passion flower is a code name for the pr0n industry. The truth is out there!
2002-10-19 05:20:49 PM  
BTW... ever seen that "Mad TV" episode with "The XXX Files"... now that was comedy!
2002-10-19 05:21:59 PM  
I'm with you on this. I think this guy saw too much and now they're trying to shut him up. I bet they even messed up his hair just to make him look less credible. And what kind of name is Matthew Marshall Dowdy? Sounds made-up to me.
2002-10-19 05:29:39 PM  

You clearly are farking around. Obviously you have nothing SUBSTANTIAL to contribute to any discussion about the common currency that is in our everyday realities. Can anyone farking come up with SUBSTANTIAL information on this topic? Who?

If not, then who, pray tell, has a better grip on our shared reality? I'm tackling just ONE issue at a time so that we can see who has a better grip on reality here on this board. I have initiated a challenge on this board and no one has yet to step up to the plate--that I know of at this moment as I type this.

I have lots of good money urls that are on the money with regards to this money issue--I just want to see IF anyone on this board can spar with me on this issue. Go ahead and make my day.
2002-10-19 05:34:09 PM  
Okay, I've got it. We know porno's involved somehow, and what's the biggest name in pr0n? Ron Jeremy, of course! A simple web search turns up a writeup* of 'Pornosonic' by reviewer Matthew Carlin . . . obviously no one other than the man of the hour, Matthew Marshall Dowdy under an alias, since Mr. Carlin's picture is suspiciously absent from the review. Which brings us to shadowy figure at the very top of the conspiracy: none other than George Carlin** himself. Who would have guessed?

2002-10-19 05:36:37 PM  

I don't have a lot of time.. getting ready to go out for dinner. But, let me take a stab at this...

Dollar bills we use are actually Federal Reserve Notes. Notes recognized and backed by the US Goverment as legal tender for all debts (public and private).

Am I close?
2002-10-19 05:37:46 PM  
It's kinda boring making fun of a guy who can't even figure out that people are farking with him... it's kinda like tripping a blind guy, or cursing at the deaf.
2002-10-19 05:49:50 PM  

Careful when you are making fun at groups of people, as I am in the latter of your example, as I'm severely hearing-impaired. It's really low of you to to say that, even though you had no idea of my hearing status. Have you no shame? If you are so clever, perhaps you can come up with more SUBSTANTIAL information than Maynard's attempt? Come on guys, stop blowing hot air and start coming up with reality-based facts about money. Where's the beef? Show me your muscle of your mind. Show me.


Nice try and thanks for trying, but that is only the nominal description of money that we use. You named the source of the money; good. Now tell me who controls that source?


Does anyone here have any SUBSTANTIAL, reality-based information about the money that nearly all of us use? Demonstrate your grip on the reality of that.
2002-10-19 05:50:04 PM  
I think the comedy peaked around "Toraque . . .I did not see anything relevant to the topic under discussion." right before a nearly straight segue into US currency conspiracies. Considering that we were talking about the DC sniper attacks, the irony was sublime.
You're right, though. I kinda feel like I've been running a tel-e-prompter for Ray Charles for the last hour or so.
2002-10-19 05:51:36 PM  
I'm just saying that you have no grip at all on the reality that we're all making fun of you.

Heck, you even missed the point of my last message entirely.

Take a farking Haldol, it'll make you feel better.
2002-10-19 06:00:42 PM  
i want to believe!
2002-10-19 06:05:14 PM  

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2002-10-19 06:06:26 PM  

I have been very clear from the get-go that you have been making fun of me from the get-go. WTF makes you think that I am not aware of this?

I am carrying on in this thread only to see if anyone has a better grip on a reality that we all share--money. Come on and prove to me in your own words and backed up by supporting urls that you understand the nature of the money that we use and who contols the issue of it. I dare you.

If none of you can meet my gantlet that I have thrown to you, then I must conclude that you have no grip on the money reality, thus you will continue to be laughed at by those who laugh all the way to the banks of their creation. Pathetic is all I can say.
2002-10-19 06:09:52 PM  
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2002-10-19 06:11:18 PM  
~high five's shark~
2002-10-19 06:13:08 PM  
OMG Clevershark you are too funny!

You should have brought up the Zionists or Illuminati too :-))
2002-10-19 06:14:13 PM  
2002-10-19 06:16:39 PM  
use him to demonstrate the new models of woodchippers on sale now at Home Depot.
2002-10-19 06:18:36 PM  
Let me guess, Tarzan. You have "trademarked" your name and file "land patents". Am I right?
2002-10-19 06:18:43 PM  
You never refuted my research that proved George Carlin controls all US currency. And I even gave you supporting links, too.
2002-10-19 06:23:18 PM  
i will tell you who controls *my* money - my ol' lady. :)
2002-10-19 06:24:20 PM  
You named the source of the money; good. Now tell me who controls that source?

The Federal Reserve is a independent board that is composed of 7 members. One of which is the Chairman. Each Governor is nominated by the President and must be confirmed by the Senate. Each Governor has a 14 year term. The Chairman is also nominated by the president and confirmed by the Senate. His term is for four years.

By stating that the board is independet does not mean it acts in a void. The indenent part means that actions taken by the board do not have to be approved by Congress. However, since the Reserve acts under the guidence of the US Congress, any and all actions taken by it can be changed by way of a Congressional Resolution.

So, to answer your question, the US Congress ultimately controls the source.

Now, I am about to leave. Feel free to email me with any replies you have. Also, anyone who wishes to watch or participate.

Also, to the Mods, please forgive me for threadjacking.
2002-10-19 06:24:35 PM  
Since money is the vehicle for Tarzan's argument. Let me shine some light into the dark. There is an old saying that many people do not hold true. It is what this country was founded on. It appears on every single U.S. Federal Reserve Note that is passed between parties for whatever reason, from drugs, sex, bribes, lies, and greed, to food, concerts, paychecks, college funds, etc. You get the picture. That saying is in God we trust. It is so sad that we have created for ourselves, a society that trusts more in money than in the Creator who allowed you to make the choices you make everyday. Oh, and the second letter of the alphabet is B.
2002-10-19 06:24:38 PM  
Maynard~Nice try and thanks for trying, but that is only the nominal description of money that we use. You named the source of the money; good. Now tell me who controls that source?

Samuel Clemens?
2002-10-19 06:27:02 PM  
He went to the Home Depot because he was busy renovating his second guest bedroom and the master bathroom in his house. Yeah, that's the ticket...
2002-10-19 06:32:40 PM  
Now tell me who controls that source?- obviously the Free Masons, probably the ones that built the pyramid on the back of the dollar bill(US) with the all seeing eye of 'God' above it.
interesting side note tho not verified by myself as I don't even have a dollar bill:
The Eagle always wants to face the olive branch,
but in time of war, his gaze turns toward the arrows. They say that the number
13 is an unlucky number. This is almost a worldwide belief. You will usually
never see a room numbered 13, or any hotels or motels with a 13th floor. But
think about this: 13 original colonies, 13 signers of the Declaration of
Independence, 13 stripes on our flag, 13 steps on the Pyramid, 13 letters in
the Latin above, 13 letters in "E Pluribus Unum", 13 stars above the Eagle,
13 plumes of feathers on each span of the Eagle's wing, 13 bars on that shield,
13 leaves on the olive branch, 13 fruits, and if you look closely, 13 arrows.
And for minorities: the 13th Amendment.
2002-10-19 06:35:56 PM  
Anyone else notice that they're giving him the three-name label? Matthew Marshall Dowdy. Lee Harvey Oswald. James Earl Ray.

Isn't it supposed to be a big deal that only the assassins and people who succeed in killing people get thier three name label? I seem to remember reading something about this some time back. It was presented with John Hinkley as evidence, because he didn't kill Reagan so he was only two names.
I don't remember what they said about Sirhan Sirhan or Jack Ruby.

Oh well.
2002-10-19 06:37:26 PM  
lemme guess, cabin in montana, never had sex, hates his family
2002-10-19 06:39:09 PM  
It would have been Sirhan Sirhan Sirhan, and that's just too strange. As for Jack Ruby, he didn't kill anyone and if you think he did, I've got a site that says you're wrong.
2002-10-19 06:41:19 PM  
side note from:''
results of a gws, not from a site i visit(or revisit) very often, once so far, only in response to Tarzans question. gws- google web search- not gay web sex. i do not know tarzan or any of these reborn fanatics of any religion.
2002-10-19 06:45:38 PM  
Damn, this guy is one farking idiot, to say the least! Why would he mislead the fuzz? Holy dummscheiss Batman! Er ist ein ficken Arschloch! Now excuse me while I go play TFC. I think I shall select... the sniper.
2002-10-19 06:49:30 PM  
2002-10-19 06:58:25 PM  

Again nice try.

This url, which has the profound book, Secrets of the Federal Reserve, written by Eustace Mullins, a reknowned scholar of solid reputation. Although it was written many decades ago, it is totally relevant today. It's SOLID and SUBSTANTIAL.

Although I have a lot of urls on this topic alone, I rest my case on the Mullin book alone.

Find out who's really laughing all the way to THEIR banks. Ignorance sure is bliss for the bankers. The joke's truly, factually on you guys.
2002-10-19 07:02:18 PM  
O J Simpson
2002-10-19 07:03:13 PM  
Get it? Three names? He's guilty, I say! Or is it OJ Simpson? Eh, whatever.
2002-10-19 07:09:42 PM  
Perhaps, Schulte, he didn't think he was misleading them. Perhaps the nature of the culprits was so self evident to him that he just had to concoct an eye-witness account to make them listen.

Just kidding. I don't think that's the case, but it sure happens all the time. People lying their asses off because they KNOW the truth and other people won't believe them, so the say they've SEEN it with their OWN eyes.

Sigh. Federal Reserve "secrets" indeed. From where do these goobers escape?
2002-10-19 07:14:07 PM  
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2002-10-19 07:29:27 PM  
I think Fark's on autopilot...
2002-10-19 07:38:19 PM  
Big Tuna~

That's a useful "Red Herring" link. I bookmarked it; however, I am not doing any kind of "red herring" act as you are implying, though I plead no-contest to a charge of thread-jacking, as Fark's on auto-pilot.

Here's a latest report from the CIA, Center for an Informed America:

It relates to the money issue, plus a lot more.

Lol, Gear Jammer. A suggestion: change the caption to "Follow the money!", por favor.
2002-10-19 07:40:14 PM  
Oh god, we need a new link! Fark gods have mercy on us!! If I hear one more crazy half-assed comment coming from some conspiracy theorist I'm going to puke.
2002-10-19 07:55:45 PM  

Go ahead and puke, lol. Then take the red pill.

To help Duke puke some more, here's good link that is related to the sniper-aspect of this thread, to wit:

And Dude, just what is "crazy and half-a$$ed about my commentaries? Remember to attack the idea/opinions, not the messenger. Use the muscle of your mind. Where's the beef?
2002-10-19 08:09:12 PM  
2002-10-19 08:21:59 PM  
Tarzan is this a picture of you?

Also, this mugshot mister should be THOUROUGHLY ASHAMED OF HIMSELF!
2002-10-19 08:49:57 PM  
Then there are those of us who make a lot of money and don't give a rats ass who controls the federal reserve as long as I can go to the bank, get some money, and then go shopping for goodies for my computer, xbox, and ps2. Plus a quick trip by a store to buy a gift for my girlfriend. Ahhhh, the life of a welthy consumer.

Now, all you tinfoil hat wearing individuals who want to spend all your time trying to find truth and pattern in a caotic and completely random world, go right ahead. While your doing that, I'll be busy getting my game on, with sort breaks inbetween to read some fark, and fark my girlfriend.
Enjoy your life foilies because I know I'll enjoy mine.
2002-10-19 09:17:00 PM  

While you are farking around with "your" money, find out how you are making a very few others super-rich off your a$$:
2002-10-19 09:29:37 PM  
You still haven't refuted my earlier research on this. My links proved George Carlin is behind the conspiracy.

You're not helping your case by ignoring the facts you don't want to hear.

/me is back for round two, this time with beer.
2002-10-19 09:31:08 PM  
Hey, Tarzan, I never mentioned you...
2002-10-19 11:25:53 PM  

Look, I want serious SUBSTANTIVE evidence for anything that you call "research". I have submitted SUBSTANTIVE urls and you have not in your substandard mockery.


While you can say that you never mentioned me, you used the same terms that others have used against me, so who in the fark else were you referring to? Such labeling is commonly applied by folks who really don't know what's going on with the money that they naively use and how fundmentally central is the role of the commonly-used money in fueling massive the war machine that has already destroyed so much of the planet and killed millions of people world-wide--all because of the willful ignorance of people like you.

Ignorance is bliss for the bankers.
2002-10-19 11:33:29 PM  
You know, the fact that they're pinning this guy to the WALL because he gave "false" info about this sniper Really makes me want to give the FBI my information, What about you guys?

farkin' Government man....If they start the draft, im moving to's starting to look better and better
2002-10-20 01:20:14 AM  
He got his fifteen minutes of fame as an alert citizen. The poor bastard gets to be remembered as an asshole for the rest of his life.

Seems like a piss poor tradeoff.
2002-10-20 03:24:33 AM  
Tarzan, more power to them. I make money from other people's work, and other people are making money from my work. Good for them. I'm comfortable, therefore I'm happy.
2002-10-20 03:25:19 AM  
Oh, at that link didn't work, so I don't know what your talking about.
2002-10-20 07:20:16 AM  
Ok, post his picture all over the internet. This is exactly what this guy wanted. Retards.
2002-10-20 08:17:01 AM  
Dude, Tarzan. Chill. If you suggest that the government is involved in anything more sinister than "makin' us pay too much durn taxes, y'hear," someone is guaranteed to go for the tried-and-true tinfoil hat attack. You actually didn't sound like a paranoid until you got all wacky about the money thing.

I mean, the government is involved in crazy unthinkable conspiracies. That's just a given. Declassified files from the fifties and sixties tell us that they were doing it then and there's no reason to believe they would stop.

But of course, I would have to wonder what their motive would be with this sniper thing. I have a hard time figuring out how anyone in the government would benefit from this. I mean, I can see how it would work to the benefit of some elements in the government, but it seems like there are other ways they could achieve the same ends.

And no, I don't know anything about the money thing. I know that every week my boss gives me some and gives the government some, and then I take the bit he gave me and give the bank some. At the end of the year, sometimes the government gives me back some. So, I guess it's controlled by my boss, my bank, the government, and me. That's my reality.
2002-10-20 02:41:56 PM  
What a freaking surprise, he is a black felon, who would have thought is account of the situtation would have been suspect.
2002-10-21 08:50:05 AM  
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