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(The Smoking Gun)   Mug shot of the guy who misled police about Home Depot sniper   ( divider line
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22897 clicks; posted to Main » on 19 Oct 2002 at 8:15 AM (14 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»

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2002-10-19 11:55:58 AM  
eraser8, both spellings are acceptable.
2002-10-19 11:57:27 AM  
He's spent more time more than free time. He sure has got a pretty face. Looks like a screamer too.
2002-10-19 11:58:08 AM  
Eunice Stone surrenders?
2002-10-19 12:07:01 PM  
Something tells me Johnny Cochran won't be defending this guy.
2002-10-19 12:12:18 PM  
I didn't read this article, and I don't have anything relevant to add to this discuassion, but I just tried to submit a link to an article about Japanese taxi-hookers, and it told me that it had already been done! I had a look but didn't see it anywhere on the specified date here on Fark.
Won't somebody PLEASE think of the Japanese taxi-hookers!?
2002-10-19 12:22:51 PM  
If anyone cares, I submitted the mugshot as a Photoshop contest, partly because the ones in this thread rock hard. Just letting you guys know, and so the TotalFarkers' PS supremacy isn't so bad. RaineirWolfcastle, silly German man, TotalFark's where your taxi-hooker link would be, if it ain't on the main page.
2002-10-19 12:40:07 PM  
Eleven crimes committed in 85, mostly robbery, and assault, but none since. It's nice to see that he's turned over a new lea...oh, right, nevermind....
2002-10-19 12:43:15 PM  
This stupid DC sniper attack senario has all the hallmarks of a "government"-inspired psy-op (psychological operations) project.

A lone man CANNOT pull off EIGHT successful sniper attacks WITHOUT detection in broad daylight without having several accomplices help him out and to have other teams acting in complicity to cover his sharp-shooting a$$.


1)A lone sniper must choose a site, get set up, be steady in his aim, fire successfully, get quickly to the vehicle and leave without a trace--all in broad daylight with a lot of people around...and do this eight times? No, not likely. Guns are noisy and they attract a lot of attention the moment the firing commences.

2)A team of at least three or more is needed. A get-away driver, a spotter and a shooter; plus, given the many reports of certain over-sized vehicles reported right at the times of the shootings, it is likely that others are involved (by two-way radio contact) to act as visual decoys in their movements of the vehicles to distract witnesses' attention while the real culprits sneak away. Classic psy-op situation. Foreign terrorists cannot pull this off right in a huge city in broad daylight. Given that this event has happened EIGHT times, the sheer number of successes without any arrests alone points quite strongly to the "government" as being the real culprit--very few cops/agents are aware of the actions done by psy-op guys, so there are many "government" agents who are running around with their heads off while the psy-op guys are laughing their a$$es off at the bumbling incompetence of their peers and the stupidity of the frightened, gullible public.

Don't believe the AP--Ass-nine Propaganda. Already their PRIME witness has been discredited--what else in their bullsheeit stories are full of sheeit?


A useful site:
2002-10-19 12:50:30 PM  
Tarzan: granted, the AP sucks, but I think maybe you should have Jane check your tinfoil head wrappings :)
2002-10-19 12:53:56 PM  
Guns don't make that much noise if you wrap wet towels around them or have a silencer. You can easily hide in a back alley or shoot from under a car or something and no-one will hear your shot, or care, because the victim's 300-yards away. He's also not double-tapping, and he's not tracking a specific victim, so he could probably get set up in 3 minutes, find a target in 2, fire, throw his shiat in the van and take off in under 2 minutes, and get out of there without attracting any suspicion. He doesn't need a team or anything, and you'd be AMAZED what you can get away with in broad daylight if you care to try it, because people aren't paranoid like you are and are usually more concerned about their own problems than those of other people, and don't want to get involved.
2002-10-19 01:01:26 PM  
Ad hominem attacks--done by those who have no better alternatives to offer.

Read this:
2002-10-19 01:04:44 PM  
Si is it racism if a black guys says it was a middle eastern guy?

or is that just saved for crackers?
2002-10-19 01:11:29 PM  
JerseyDope, you're right. Ridicule must come first. This guy is an assclown.

Now that that's out of the way...

Tribs, both spellings are acceptable. But, numskull is preferred.
2002-10-19 01:17:41 PM  
The word of the day is "xenophobia," folks.

2002-10-19 01:30:28 PM  
This is not the work of the government, or even of a professional gunman.. if either of this two types where involved you would not hear the shot until several moments following the victims fall.. no this is the work of a couple of asshats with a case of meglomania..the shooter is probabaly someone who was kicked out of boot camp given a dishonorable discharge or has only dreamed of being in the far all the shots where made from 100 yards or less at targets standing still or moving directly towards or away from the point of fire..i agree with Veritron, you would be surprised what you can get way with in broad day light.. while i'm at it let me add something to the mix and see what you guys think..I was in D.C. back in july and there was someone running around supposedly in a white van shooting darts at people.. you don't suppose this is the same guy who has up the anty???
2002-10-19 01:42:57 PM  
when are we going to get a [image from too old to be available] tag?
2002-10-19 01:46:03 PM  
Too bad for him, Bubba probably uses those magical condoms...
2002-10-19 01:47:48 PM  
10-19-02 09:38:53 AM Blandarfleck
Aparently he was inside home depot when the shooting took place. Seing as how he doesn't work for Ms. Cleo....

Given her outstanding abilities...maybe he did...
2002-10-19 01:50:08 PM  
what about the children??? whould someone think about that children ?!!!?!?!
2002-10-19 01:50:44 PM  
(simpsons) ^^^
2002-10-19 01:53:58 PM  
My first hint that this guy was making this up is that he described the sniper as dark-skinned... serial killing is almost exclusively a white man's crime.
2002-10-19 02:00:16 PM  
This guy's saying the same thing that I am:
2002-10-19 02:08:21 PM  
Tarzan, you're right. If it's on the internet, it's got to be true.
2002-10-19 02:09:48 PM  
hehe... the tin-foil-hat brigade at work again :-)
2002-10-19 02:19:17 PM  

I don't want to be too much of a devil's advocate here, but...

How do we know he isn't telling the truth?!

2002-10-19 02:29:05 PM  
This guy's saying something different:
2002-10-19 02:49:55 PM  
Words and their power to mislead:
2002-10-19 02:53:02 PM  
That article was written with words, and is therefore misleading!
2002-10-19 02:57:14 PM  
Bah, you didn't look at my link, so I'm not going to look at yours. And I know you didn't look, because the webcounter on Geocities is still at 5 for that page.
2002-10-19 02:57:32 PM  
what a jackasshat... the cops should also be thrown in jail for believing him
2002-10-19 03:06:50 PM  
thank you for not using the term "asshat" in the tag.

i hereby found a league of farkers for the abolition of the term "asshat," a word unbecoming of an intelligent and creative person.
2002-10-19 03:12:30 PM  
Is that guy drooling?
2002-10-19 03:20:52 PM  
I bet he looks much better with the had he was wearing.

goes to show you, asshat fbi believed him...he looks like a credible witness to me.

also goes to show FBI doesnt have any real info or they wouldnt have pursued an ass like this for information.
2002-10-19 03:26:31 PM  
"How do we know he isn't telling the truth?!"

He admitted that he was inside the store at the time of the shooting after being questioned further. So since he wasn't actually outside or near the outside there is no possible way he could have seen what he says he saw.

Tarzan you need to turn off FX and stop watching X-Files.

I'm placing bets that the shooter is gone. They found a van with shell casings at a rental car places near Dulles. I bet he's outta there and is going to take it up in another city. Or if he's still in the area he is getting a new vehicle and new weapon, that would explain why he's been quiet all week long.
2002-10-19 03:46:42 PM  

I did look at that link that you provided--I did not see anything relevant to the topic under discussion. I'll paste it on my browser and try again right now to see if anything different comes up.


I don't watch TV; I get my news from the internet and, while not the whole of the internet is truthful, there is far more reliable information on the net than there is on the Tell-a Vicious lie medium.
2002-10-19 03:52:22 PM  
working definition of conspiracy - seems fairly prevalent in the world, doesn't it?
2002-10-19 03:55:07 PM  

Don't you have anything better to offer? That site--the same thing came up the second time--is nothing but sarcastic parody of "research". I prefer links to real research sites, thank you. Here's one:
2002-10-19 04:01:59 PM  
BTW guys, Tarzan is a conspiracy nut who thinks that there is a zionist conspiracy to dominate earth, he thinks that the illuminati is involved, freemasons, CIA, FBI, etc etc. He's your classic paranoid delusional conspiracy theorist who eats up pretty much everything he reads.
2002-10-19 04:04:37 PM  
And please don't bother trying to convinced Tarzan otherwise. Its a waste of your and his time.

Just accept the fact that he'll never quite grasp reality in the way you or I do. Or as Tarzan would like to say, he'll take the red pill, we'll take the blue pill :-P
2002-10-19 04:12:10 PM  

"Reality"--I don't "grasp" reality? Oh really?

Ok, let's take a common currency that most of us touch in our everyday realities: money.

Can you tell me about the source of the currently-used (a pun) form of the "US dollar"? Can you tell me about the nature and cause of the power of the source of that currency? Who owns it? Who has the power to control it?

There's an everyday reality that all of you can tell me.

Ok, have at it and see who has a firmer grip on the "reality" of the US dollar that you touch nearly every day. Go ahead; try it. I dare you.
2002-10-19 04:13:18 PM  
I have heard that the police were originally skeptical of him because he knew too much about the weapon used, when from the vantage point he claimed to have had, it would have been impossible to identify. The weapon he claimed was used was also very rarely used in crimes of this type. After some rigorous questioning, he admitted he was inside HD the whole time.

Federal prosecutors have sworn that he will do jail time. Maybe not the ten years' maximum that his crimes allow, but he will go to jail.
2002-10-19 04:21:28 PM  
BTW guys, Tarzan is a conspiracy nut who thinks that there is a zionist conspiracy to dominate earth, he thinks that the illuminati is involved, freemasons, CIA, FBI, etc etc.
That's why I gave him that link. I figured I'd give him something that made no sense whatsoever to play with.

Err, try this link.
2002-10-19 04:26:08 PM  
Tarzan = [image from too old to be available], and here's why:

You make an alright argument about how the gunman would have accomplices, but you make a crappy one as to why they (as in the conspirators) would have government ties/assistance. Also, all you have is a theory based on partial information, and not even the full amount of information that law enforcement officials already have. And no where in your theory do you have any real hard evidence on why the government is involved. Now, if you wanted to present your idea as a possible explanation of what's up, you could make a decent case- but as things are right now, it is far from the only explanation. We really don't have much to go on in regards to evidence of the sniper's MO, and to weigh one possibility as being the only one is foolishness, at best. I further ask you, what would this rogue government agency have to gain from sowing such terror? If the King George wanted to use this to further his "anti-terror, more power for me!" agenda, a lot of trumped up info implicating Middle Easterners would be released; instead, the one person implicating them has not only been discredited, but in a very public way.

Anyway, when you come onto Fark and lay out crack-pot theories as fact, don't be surprised when people label you a crackpot. And anything on the internet is just as suspect as anything you'll see on cable, hear on the radio, or read in a newspaper. In fact, I would say moreso.
2002-10-19 04:27:13 PM  
that was supposed to be, Tarzan = [image from too old to be available]

My html skillz be not mad nor ninja pimp today.
2002-10-19 04:27:49 PM  
damn google...
2002-10-19 04:34:29 PM  

I already tried that link, as I recognize it from url bar on my 'puter.

I will check back from time to time to see if anyone has anything SUBSTANTIAL to support their grips of our common reality of handing the "US dollars".

I resent your sheeity treatment of me. I have seen that there are a lot of intelligent people on this Fark board, as demonstrated by your own words and by the numbers of people with fairly high IQs who had taken this fark'n IQ test a while ago--either that or there's a hell of a lot of liars on this board. It is most likely that those who had taken the test and gotten boast-worthy scores could not help but share the results with others, which is an action that seeks validation from others--a normal, natural human trait that many of us share.

The other day I got down to your level and got involved in a lot of mud-slinging, with the kinds of results that I anticipated. It's not a productive way to reach people's minds, clearly so. People's minds are where most wars/battles are won or lost, so it is that battlefield that I choose to participate, rather than picking up physical weapons and using them.
2002-10-19 04:42:12 PM  
[image from too old to be available]
2002-10-19 04:44:15 PM  
I'll do some research on this money thing. Keep checking that link for updates.
2002-10-19 04:54:48 PM  
Tarzan's gone... I guess Nurse Ratchett locked up the computer room.
2002-10-19 04:56:08 PM  

Point taken. There are so many threads in the whole of the matrix of society that it would be far too difficult to tackle any of them without taking up far too much of our collective time, hence my challenge to all of you to tell me your grip on a common reality that we all share: money.

Let's focus on that issue alone and let's see who on this board right now can share what their grips on the reality of money are like?

Calling people labels like "crackpot", "nutcase" is unfruitful for everyone involved because the use of labels alone prevents anyone from thinking clearly about what information someone else may have, however unpopular they may be. Recall that our Founding Fathers were very unpopular at their time--they were called "crackpots" by those who were loyal to King George. Is today any different?

A real crackpot (I'm using this label generally, not specifically) may say things that are so antithetical to obvious facts that such a crackpot would clearly be delusional; such as saying that the sun rises in the west, sets in the east.

The label "crackpot" does not apply to me. The use of a prejudicial label to me--and others who's views do not fit the mainstream propaganda model--frequently would hide the truth of any situation from you. You seek the truth, do you not?
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