Rev.K: NuttierThanEver: Only 3 out of the 6 starters for the Western Conference are Red Wings, that's a freaking crime. Osgood should be in there too.

/Go Wings!

And 2 are Calgary Flames!!

Hell yea bro!!! GO Flames

It's not like Phaneuf is going to be laying big hits during the All-Star Game.

/nice to see him on the team, but still...

Subby, the thing you don't seem to get is that Rory actually had a chance of winning.

/Yeah I went there
//Toe Blake! Eddie Shore!

submitter: Rory Fitzpatrick seen being consoled by Ron Paul

I will not abide this slanderous comparison.

Rory actually had a shot at winning.

NuttierThanEver: Only 3 out of the 6 starters for the Western Conference are Red Wings, that's a freaking crime. Osgood should be in there too.

/Go Wings!


Not amused.

If Osgood doesn't get named as a reserve that's a shame. Luongo has had some pretty mediocre numbers this year.

DD0
If Osgood doesn't get named as a reserve that's a shame. Luongo has had some pretty mediocre numbers this year.

W-L-OTL SV% GAA SO
19-12-3 .930 1.97 6


Right. Mediocre.

NuttierThanEver: Only 3 out of the 6 starters for the Western Conference are Red Wings, that's a freaking crime. Osgood should be in there too.

/Go Wings!

If Luongo played for the Wings his GAA would be around 0.80 and his Save % would be around .970.

Luongo > Osgood

onecanshort: Lloyd Braun: NuttierThanEver: Only 3 out of the 6 starters for the Western Conference are Red Wings, that's a freaking crime. Osgood should be in there too.

/Go Wings!

If Luongo played for the Wings his GAA would be around 0.80 and his Save % would be around .970.


Luongo > Osgood

You know what's funny? People used to pull the same shiat on Marty, "Oh any goalie can be an all star with that defense!"

Now we have Colin White and Paul Martin as our top D-men, with Andy Greene, Johnny O"Idroppedmystick"ya and a band of NHL nomads (Rachunek, Vishnesvki, and Brookbank), and he's still a friggin All Star. It's not like I can say I'm happy I don't have to defend that argument, but it's one less argument I gotta fight: this defense BLOWS and he's still amazing.


Freecell: DD0
If Osgood doesn't get named as a reserve that's a shame. Luongo has had some pretty mediocre numbers this year.

W-L-OTL SV% GAA SO
19-12-3 .930 1.97 6


Right. Mediocre.

Well yeah c'mon, he's mediocre but his pad are superb!!

Of course. It's all the flaps. Any goalie could be an allstar with those flaps.

Hey Calgary fans, is Phaneuf that good? I'm not familiar with him. He has nice numbers, but they aren't great.

onecanshort
psst, that was sarcasm.

had to explain this to a bunch of my fellow Devils fans a few weeks ago. Mostly, the size of his pads don't mean shiat when we can't get a f'n shot on net!

Yeah, I know. I didn't think you were serious. Was just joking. It's funny, after a game he played against the Stars, I was listening to a post-game interview with him on the radio. Someone asked him how many of his saves were because of the flaps. "Maybe half." Completely deadpan.

Freecell: W-L-OTL SV% GAA SO
19-12-3 .930 1.97 6

Right. Mediocre.

Chris Osgood:

W-L-TL SV% GAA SO
19-2-1 .932 1.68 2

Luongo has palyed 12 more games than Osgood. He has 12 more losses.

onecanshort: You know what's funny? People used to pull the same shiat on Marty, "Oh any goalie can be an all star with that defense!"

Now we have Colin White and Paul Martin as our top D-men, with Andy Greene, Johnny O"Idroppedmystick"ya and a band of NHL nomads (Rachunek, Vishnesvki, and Brookbank), and he's still a friggin All Star. It's not like I can say I'm happy I don't have to defend that argument, but it's one less argument I gotta fight: this defense BLOWS and he's still amazing.


I never heard that argument about Brodeur. I thought everybody knew he was awesome. Osgood is a good goalie with a great D in front of him. Long shots from just inside the blueline can be easily stopped and can raise any goalie's save %. Stick Osgood on the Canucks and his numbers would be much higher than Luongo's.


Luongo > Every other goalie in the world

DD0: Freecell: W-L-OTL SV% GAA SO
19-12-3 .930 1.97 6

Right. Mediocre.

Chris Osgood:

W-L-TL SV% GAA SO
19-2-1 .932 1.68 2

Luongo has palyed 12 more games than Osgood. He has 12 more losses.

But his other numbers are similar, indicating that the reason they lose is because they suck. Hell, 1/3 of his wins are shutouts.

DD0: Freecell: W-L-OTL SV% GAA SO
19-12-3 .930 1.97 6

Right. Mediocre.

Chris Osgood:

W-L-TL SV% GAA SO
19-2-1 .932 1.68 2

Luongo has palyed 12 more games than Osgood. He has 12 more losses.

W/L don't mean jack shiat. Osgood plays for the Red Wings. Amazing team. Amazing players. Luongo plays for the Canucks. Decent D, the Sedins and what else? Nothing. Osgood has been amazing and he will be in the allstar game. Not trying to take that away from him. And it's true, his stats are marginally better than Luongo's this year. But look at the team he's on. And you can hardly call Luongo's stats "mediocre."

DD0: Freecell: W-L-OTL SV% GAA SO
19-12-3 .930 1.97 6

Right. Mediocre.

Chris Osgood:

W-L-TL SV% GAA SO
19-2-1 .932 1.68 2

Luongo has palyed 12 more games than Osgood. He has 12 more losses.

Luongo also faces more - and objectively better (Vancouver has no star on its defense, and at least two of their starting defensemen have missed significant chunks of the season) - shots on a night-by-night basis. And has earned four more shutouts. And, though I don't actually care enough to look it up, I'll hazard a guess that those shutouts Luongo put up were the usually the difference between a W and an L - Detroit, on the other hand, is certainly not made or broken by its goaltending.

Sorry, but you're an ass. Arguing for Osgood as starting goalie is ridiculous. Luongo - and this is coming from a Leafs fan, well aware (and pissed) that the draft pick which was used on Luongo was traded away by the Leafs to get Wendel Clark for the third time - is without question the best goalie in the world today.

DD0, don't be jealous--that's unattractive on a lady

W00t Alfie!

^Phillips > _Chara

I still miss Chara though. I used to love it when he'd get penalties for being big.

/
// ya, I'm a homer

Ya the Wings are great, but acting like goaltending hasn't affected their season is pretty ridiculous. Actually it's fact, look at Hasek's number versus Osgood's.

I love it when people on the internet get all worked up and angry over inconsequential stuff.

DD0: Ya the Wings are great, but acting like goaltending hasn't affected their season is pretty ridiculous. Actually it's fact, look at Hasek's number versus Osgood's.

I love it when people on the internet get all worked up and angry over inconsequential stuff.

Give it a rest man and stop being passive aggressive, not that I actually care. Luongo is the best in the league and he plays 70+ games of 40 shots on net (+20 that shoot wide trying to beat him). If Osgood could do better he would have his choice of city to play in for 8 million a year, instead he plays half as many games for a good team

P.S.
Alfie? Really? I would have thought there were better candidates on Ottawa itself

h to the 'ojo: Alfie? Really? I would have thought there were better candidates on Ottawa itself

Alfie is probably the most creative player I've ever watched. His keep away game is amazing. I love watching him circle the corner with the puck, draw 2 or 3 guys towards him and then find an open player. Does it at least once a game.

While he's not a starter, I'm honestly surprised that Francois Beuchemin got so many votes for the Western Conference. He's on a team where there are three objectively better defensemen (Pronger, Niedermayer, and Schneider), and he's still an All-Star? Awesome.

DD0: Ya the Wings are great, but acting like goaltending hasn't affected their season is pretty ridiculous. Actually it's fact, look at Hasek's number versus Osgood's.

I love it when people on the internet get all worked up and angry over inconsequential stuff.

Hasek has a .896 save % and still has 13-6-2 record.

whereisian: Alfie is probably the most creative player I've ever watched. His keep away game is amazing. I love watching him circle the corner with the puck, draw 2 or 3 guys towards him and then find an open player. Does it at least once a game.

I was thinking Heatley. I just checked and their stats are neck and neck so I will defer to someone who watches them more


KeeperX: While he's not a starter, I'm honestly surprised that Francois Beuchemin got so many votes for the Western Conference. He's on a team where there are three objectively better defensemen (Pronger, Niedermayer, and Schneider), and he's still an All-Star? Awesome.

Where can you see the entire all-star teams? I looked at nhl.com about 30min ago and they only listed the starting line-ups along with the other places I checked

h to the 'ojo: Give it a rest man and stop being passive aggressive, not that I actually care. Luongo is the best in the league and he plays 70+ games of 40 shots on net (+20 that shoot wide trying to beat him). If Osgood could do better he would have his choice of city to play in for 8 million a year, instead he plays half as many games for a good team

Passive aggressive? I said it would be a shame if Osgood wasn't named as a reserve, I didn't freak out and call anyone names.

This season has nothing to do with every or any other Osgood has ever played. Nor does his pay. He probably won't play this well next year. That doesn't mean he isn't more than deserving of all the credit for how well he is playing this year.

And good point, it can't be held against Osgood that he has to split time. He could very likely have 6 shutouts as well. Love that you can get a shutout and lose in the NHL now, makes so much sense.

Lloyd Braun: Hasek has a .896 save % and still has 13-6-2 record.

Since Hasek has been back from his injuries he's been playing much better. The point still remains that even some marginally worse goaltending has brought more losses to the Wings, despite how great they are playing. The argument that a goalie is only playing well cause his team is has never been true.

h to the 'ojo: whereisian: Alfie is probably the most creative player I've ever watched. His keep away game is amazing. I love watching him circle the corner with the puck, draw 2 or 3 guys towards him and then find an open player. Does it at least once a game.

I was thinking Heatley. I just checked and their stats are neck and neck so I will defer to someone who watches them more


KeeperX: While he's not a starter, I'm honestly surprised that Francois Beuchemin got so many votes for the Western Conference. He's on a team where there are three objectively better defensemen (Pronger, Niedermayer, and Schneider), and he's still an All-Star? Awesome.

Where can you see the entire all-star teams? I looked at nhl.com about 30min ago and they only listed the starting line-ups along with the other places I checked

The official rosters aren't up yet (Tomorrow for west and Friday for east), but you can see the final voting here. Beauchemin ended fifth in the west for D-man votes.

KeeperX: The official rosters aren't up yet (Tomorrow for west and Friday for east), but you can see the final voting here. Beauchemin ended fifth in the west for D-man votes.

West reserves aren't announced/picked til Thurs I don't think. East is Fri though.

Rory Fitzpatrick just recently cleared waivers. Not much demand out there

Where in the hell is Kovalchuk?

/go Thrash and such

AL-FIE! AL-FIE! AL-FIE! AL-FIE! AL-FIE! AL-FIE!

wwffan7385: Where in the hell is Kovalchuk?

agreed. Guy is always fun to watch.

Ron Paul failed because of his own craziness. The NHL had to actually rig the voting so Rory wouldn't win.

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Zetterberg yes, Datsyuk no.

ElwoodCuse: Ron Paul failed because of his own craziness. The NHL had to actually rig the voting so Rory wouldn't win.

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No matter how they did it, the NHL was right. Letting someone in because some assclown in Vancouver has a hard-on for an AHL player would be a travesty.

EMCGuy: No matter how they did it, the NHL was right. Letting someone in because some assclown in Vancouver has a hard-on for an AHL player would be a travesty.

It was started by a Sabres fan and eventually the cause got taken up by fans of all teams.

Besides, the ASG already is a travesty. Cheechoo got elected to start that same game with absolutely pitiful numbers (and finished 7th this year with even worse numbers).