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(Some cannibals)   Catholic Spin 101: Transferring a Priest who has been molesting mentally retarded dishwasher to an all boys school, not telling the school about his record, is a "breakdown in communication"   (calcatholic.com) divider line 86
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2007-12-28 08:32:08 PM  
Wow, Subby has tossed us an easy one.
Lets see, what direction to take?
...its always the same. Havin' a nervous break down, drive me insane.
 
2007-12-28 08:37:04 PM  
Well, were there any mentally retarded dishwashers at the all boys school?
 
2007-12-28 09:07:13 PM  
"We call that a promotion"
 
2007-12-28 10:08:29 PM  
"What we've got here is failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach, so you get what we had here last week which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it. And I don't like it any more than you men."
 
2007-12-28 10:14:12 PM  
nsfw (new window)
 
2007-12-28 11:05:49 PM  
BiffWebster: "What we've got here is failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach, so you get what we had here last week which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it. And I don't like it any more than you men."

Struther Martin For The Win!
 
2007-12-28 11:24:30 PM  
Please tell me he didn't get the slow microwave and the hani-capable fridge!
 
2007-12-28 11:25:03 PM  
Sister Teresa went outside one cold winter morning and found two boys with their pants down, sticking their weens in a snow drift. The ran up to them and scolded them, 'What on Earth do you think you boys are doing?'
They said 'Well, Father O'Malley said he likes a few cold ones after mass.'
 
2007-12-28 11:28:40 PM  
I'm sensing a new American reality show
 
2007-12-28 11:29:08 PM  
i hope the mentally retarded dishwasher used a brand of detergent that kept his hands nice and soft, otherwise he's going to hell
 
2007-12-28 11:32:28 PM  
This is my biggest problem with the Catholic church. If they were a business that had been caught doing the kind of things they did, they'd all be in jail right now and the next guys to run the company would make it PRIORITY NUMBER FREAKIN' ONE to make sure it never happened again. But apparently it's ok for the church to keep on keepin' on, so long as they pay off bribe "settlements" and make happy noises that they won't do it again.
 
2007-12-28 11:33:35 PM  
simpsonfan Sanctity of confession should not be allowed in molestation. Any church official or priest who fails to report suspected molestation should be charged with a felony.

B... b... but seperashun u' church an' state!

/so many Christians
//so few loose tigers
 
2007-12-28 11:34:33 PM  
Reminds me of that article on Fark a few months back about some guy who had raped a woman.

In court, this scumbag's attorney said that his client was actually a good person, and that the rape was just a "blip on the radar".
 
2007-12-28 11:37:20 PM  
Database of Publicly Accused Priests in the United States

i wonder how many kids each one actually abused on average?
 
2007-12-28 11:39:34 PM  
Goodfella: In court, this scumbag's attorney said that his client was actually a good person, and that the rape was just a "blip on the radar".

Holy. Crap.

That's a hell of a "blip," no?

I remember when I was considering what to do for a career. I had taken, and done extremely well, in pre-law classes. I enjoyed it, and still do enjoy court cases. But I realized: I could never, in a million years, come up with things like that, and it was criminal law that interested me the most.

The dress code put it over the top.

Seriously, though... how do people live with themselves, defending people in that way?
 
2007-12-28 11:40:27 PM  
Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: This is my biggest problem with the Catholic church.

They've done worse.

i43.photobucket.com

www.ateismo.net

www.cafehistoria.net

www.secularhumanism.org
 
2007-12-28 11:41:57 PM  
www.stmadsophie.org

"Don't worry. Our high-priced attorneys and I are working overtime on getting these charges swept under the rug again."

/aiding and abetting rape is a felony
 
2007-12-28 11:44:15 PM  
Christianity is the religion of retarded butt-farking priests.
 
2007-12-28 11:46:06 PM  
i164.photobucket.com
 
2007-12-28 11:47:22 PM  
serpent_sky: Goodfella: In court, this scumbag's attorney said that his client was actually a good person, and that the rape was just a "blip on the radar".

Holy. Crap.

That's a hell of a "blip," no?

I remember when I was considering what to do for a career. I had taken, and done extremely well, in pre-law classes. I enjoyed it, and still do enjoy court cases. But I realized: I could never, in a million years, come up with things like that, and it was criminal law that interested me the most.

The dress code put it over the top.

Seriously, though... how do people live with themselves, defending people in that way?



Ah, I found it:

"After having sex with a 13-year-old girl he met on MySpace, this is how his attorney described things: "He's married and has full-time work. I think you'll see this is a blip on the radar screen""

http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=2923554
 
2007-12-28 11:47:44 PM  
I'm surprised most by the lateness of the dates. It seems to have all gone done post-scandal, after 2002 when the Globe broke the story. Isn't the whole "policing one's own flock" concept supposed to be off the table for the Church by this point?
 
2007-12-28 11:48:13 PM  
21-7-b: Database of Publicly Accused Priests in the United States

i wonder how many kids each one actually abused on average?


This is something where I am more interested in the why, than the numbers. Why is this so rampant? It's not like you see these patterns in other professions [though teaching appears to be catching up....]

My instincts say it's because it is unnatural to deny a person all sexual contact the intimacy of physical relationships, as well as dating/marriage. Since you don't see this as a widespread problem in faiths where the clergy date and marry, it makes sense.

But I think it goes beyond that, as well. I think because Catholicism makes people feel so guilty for being gay, a lot of men go into the priesthood to hide their homosexuality. I think the years of celibacy makes something go wrong in their brains... maybe? I'm not even sure... because I'm not sure someone can become a pedophile.... I wonder if maybe they already are and are going into the priesthood to hide their pedophilia, rather than seeking help?

It's really confusing to me. Then again, growing up in the Catholic faith, all I can think is there are so many confusing things about that faith... trying to figure out why pedophile priests are so widespread is damned near impossible.
 
2007-12-28 11:49:24 PM  
a mentally retarded dishwasher, a priest, and a rabbi walk into a bar....
 
2007-12-28 11:51:43 PM  
So, is it like a requirement to molest children to get into heaven? (Apparently bonus points if their IQ is below 70)

/must be explained in a lost chapter of the bible or something.
 
2007-12-28 11:53:13 PM  
Goodfella: Ah, I found it:

"After having sex with a 13-year-old girl he met on MySpace, this is how his attorney described things: "He's married and has full-time work. I think you'll see this is a blip on the radar screen""


Oh, well, that makes more sense. After all, if you're married and you work full-time, you can't possibly be a bad person and/or do anything criminal.
 
2007-12-28 11:56:57 PM  
21-7-b, the ex-pastor of a church I went to as a kid is in that list (John Banko, might be listed as Jack). He was creepy as all get-out, but I'm female so I was never on his radar. Thankfully.
 
2007-12-28 11:58:32 PM  

Do you people actually read the articles. It was not a priest it was a brother. There is a difference.


Still it was a breakdown in communication, and an indictable one at that.


All child molesters should be hurt physically while imprisoned.

 
2007-12-29 12:01:12 AM  
Hate Thread! Woo Hoo!
 
2007-12-29 12:02:35 AM  
"communication breakdown,
Its always the same,
Im having a nervous breakdown,
Drive me insaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaane"
www.solarnavigator.net
 
2007-12-29 12:02:47 AM  
Capt.Kirk: Hate Thread! Woo Hoo!

You know who else liked hate threads?
 
2007-12-29 12:03:31 AM  
serpent_sky: But I think it goes beyond that, as well. I think because Catholicism makes people feel so guilty for being gay, a lot of men go into the priesthood to hide their homosexuality. I think the years of celibacy makes something go wrong in their brains... maybe? I'm not even sure... because I'm not sure someone can become a pedophile.... I wonder if maybe they already are and are going into the priesthood to hide their pedophilia, rather than seeking help?

I was going to post the same sentiment. I grew up Catholic, and if there is one thing thy do better than anyone else it's guilt. It was ingrained at such an early age. I remember having my first sexual experience (hetero, girl my own age)in my early teens and feeling extremely guilty about it afterward to the point that I went to confession just out of pure fear. I can only imagine what someone might do having been raised in the same manner who had such "unspeakable" thoughts as attraction to people of the same gender. It would almost cause them to swear off their feelings and devote their lives to celibacy and a religious order as penance, maybe?

/recovered catholic
//happy atheist now
 
2007-12-29 12:03:53 AM  
some of that sounds pretty possible to me, serpent_sky. i think abuse used to be more widespread, generally, anyway, but i think you need to factor in to the church's problem the lack of accountability, the total indoctrination of the victims, the church's level of contact with vulnerable people, and, the really mean way that large sections of the church have generally treated people in its care. you've got an organization that, even recently, physically bullied people until they did exactly as they were told. bad kids were bad kids and the way to make them right was more punishment. many of the kids in the church's charge are / were so poor, that even if they would be willing to speak up (despite being told that made them devils), they would choose not to because they were the best hope their families had. then, the system itself recognizes "human weakness" in its preachers as something to be overcome by increased godliness. it's a framework for abuse
 
2007-12-29 12:04:27 AM  
serpent_sky: Oh, well, that makes more sense. After all, if you're married and you work full-time, you can't possibly be a bad person and/or do anything criminal.



You know who else was married and worked full-time?
 
2007-12-29 12:04:27 AM  
FECK OFF, CUP!

/obscure?
 
2007-12-29 12:05:04 AM  
Richard Hertz

That shiat is EPIC!
 
2007-12-29 12:06:47 AM  
feckingmorons: Do you people actually read the articles. It was not a priest it was a brother. There is a difference.

Went to a catholic high school run by Xaverians, and a college run by Augustinians. I know there is a difference, but when it comes to touching retarded pot-scrubbers, it isn't an important distinction to make
 
2007-12-29 12:10:10 AM  
Sometimes the Catholics need a bit of strange just like the rest of us. They just do it with children.

/really, it's just a number
 
2007-12-29 12:10:14 AM  
eqtworld: Capt.Kirk: Hate Thread! Woo Hoo!

You know who else liked hate threads?


The Jews?
 
2007-12-29 12:13:49 AM  
I am the first here on fark to say:
OH THE HUGE MAN TITIES!
 
2007-12-29 12:14:09 AM  
21-7-b: factor in to the church's problem the lack of accountability, the total indoctrination of the victims, the church's level of contact with vulnerable people, and, the really mean way that large sections of the church have generally treated people in its care.

My mom tells me stories of her uncle, who was a priest in the 1950s, sometimes. She has little memory of him, other than being terrified of him. He was a serious alcoholic -- died from complications -- and when he'd get too drunk, they'd call my grandfather, tell him to come get his brother and/or drop him off at the house until he dried out a bit.

Instead of looking at what was going on and taking responsibility for the person who took an oath for them... they just handed him over to his brother, a banker with four kids, and said "deal with it." I always thought that was messed up.

Apparently, though, in those days, alcoholism was a serious problem in the Catholic priesthood. I am not sure if it is still that way today... but that, too, could contribute -- certainly to the lack of judgment, self-restraint, and responsibility.
 
2007-12-29 12:18:24 AM  
"Hey, girl, I got something I think you ought to know.
Hey, babe, I wanna tell you that I love you so.
I wanna hold you in my arms, yeah!
Im never gonna let you go,
cause I like your charms"
beatlesnumber9.com
 
2007-12-29 12:19:34 AM  
simpsonfan: Sanctity of confession should not be allowed in molestation. Any church official or priest who fails to report suspected molestation should be charged with a felony. It must be reported to police. Teachers have to, priests should also be required to as well. They are more qualified to investigate crimes than priests. Once molestation is confirmed, any priest or church official who transfers molestor should be tossed in prison along with the molestor. They are just as guilty. In the Catholic Church, the Pope is the boss. Any Pope can issue an order, it has to be followed. John Paul II failed to issue order that all molestors be turned over to police. Pope Benedict could order it. If he doesn't, the Church will continue to get sued, and they will deserve to lose all that money. Let them go broke, it will be their own fault. No priest ever acted inappropriately to me, but the institution is faulty, and they can count me as no longer catholic.

Why just molestation? Why shouldn't they be required to report every crime that people confess to?

The problem here is that the Catholic church believes themselves to be the ultimate authority on the planet. They "dealt with the situation," whatever that means. So if God says he's okay, they feel like they don't need to report to a lesser, earthly authority.
 
2007-12-29 12:20:46 AM  
eqtworld: nsfw (new window)

That is one f*cked up blog.

This is one f*cked up story, too, so...
 
2007-12-29 12:24:22 AM  
"communication breakdown,
Its always the same,
Im having a nervous breakdown,
Drive me insane!"
images.odeo.com

"I want you to love me all night..."
www.speedofdark-web.com

"communication breakdown,
Its always the same,
Im having a nervous breakdown,
Drive me insaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaane!"
www.bandsthatjam.net
 
2007-12-29 12:25:34 AM  
Thank you and good night Fark...
homepage.mac.com
 
2007-12-29 12:25:51 AM  
"Communication breakdown" or business as usual?
 
2007-12-29 12:29:34 AM  
The Pope just declared war on the "devil"

I wonder if he knows he's going to have to start shooting at himself.
 
2007-12-29 12:30:58 AM  
Where's you God now?

(obligatory)
 
2007-12-29 12:33:34 AM  
serpent_sky

the church attempts to create a blanket ban of many natural desires - of which we now know many are fundamental to survival. it allows people to live away from where they are known. it gives certain people a huge amount of power over other people. the mechanism for regulating that power is bunk: it relies on a sincere belief in the existence of god, but even then sees human weakness as little more than evidence of god.

on top of that, someone has to supervise the kids when they are taking a shower. someone has to discipline them.

obviously, in same-sex boarding schools kids are going to experiment a lot with kids of the same sex in the school, and that kind of situation is always going to attract men who want contact with boys, and women who want contact with girls - especially if they themselves were abused in similar circumstances and see it as their best opportunity to do the same
 
2007-12-29 12:41:22 AM  
Capt.Kirk: Hate Thread! Woo Hoo!

I'd say that hate was well-deserved. Wouldn't you?
 
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