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2007-12-25 11:16:12 AM  
NOVanHelsing: BackinIndy: but don't pay taxes.

but don't pa Federal Taxes!


From wikipedia:

Puerto Rico is classified by the U.S. government as an independent taxation authority by mutual agreement with the U.S. Congress. A common misconception is that residents of Puerto Rico do not have to pay federal taxes. Residents of the island pay federal taxes (import/export taxes, federal commodity taxes, social security taxes, etc.) and some even pay federal income taxes (Puerto Rico residents who are federal employees, or who do business with the federal government, Puerto Rico-based corporations that intend to send funds to the U.S., etc). While most residents of the island do not pay federal income tax, they do pay federal payroll taxes (Social Security and Medicare), as well as Puerto Rico income taxes. In addition, because the cutoff point for income taxation is lower than that of the IRS code, and because the per-capita income in Puerto Rico is much lower than the average per-capita income on the mainland, more Puerto Rico residents pay income taxes to the local taxation authority than if the IRS code were applied to the island. Puerto Rico residents are eligible for Social Security benefits upon retirement. Puerto Rico is excluded from Supplemental Security Income (SSI). Puerto Rico receives less than 15% of the Medicaid funding it would be allotted as a state.
 
2007-12-25 11:17:23 AM  
Is there anything these people won't put in a federal spending bill?
 
2007-12-25 11:17:59 AM  
wansu: These are STATE quarters not TERRITORY quarters.

Calm DOWN!

WTF is wrong with all these people in here disdaining other Americans?

And no, they can NOT just "Vote to become states".

Learn some history you retards. This is a good thing.

/Oh, and they DO pay taxes, idiots.
 
2007-12-25 11:18:39 AM  
Cuzweedoles: Once they show respect by paying taxes I will reciprocate by allowing them to be on quarters.

They do pay taxes, big guy. Start "allowing."
 
2007-12-25 11:20:26 AM  
kamnjunkie01: They want "State" quarters, then they can become states and pay taxes. Otherwise, STFU!

DC pays taxes. Lots of taxes. No votes for DC, though.

/Taxation Without Representation
 
2007-12-25 11:21:28 AM  
Give the territories their own new coin, face valued at 12.5 cents. Individual designs on the back, Emperor Norton on the front. Problem solved.
 
2007-12-25 11:21:28 AM  
I was a little worried that something this trivial and harmless, posted on Christmas Day, wouldn't be enough to get Farkers flaming each other or fitting it into their grand unified schemes of What's Wrong With The World.

Boy, was I stupid to worry!

denmeister: Can't we just group them all together into one quarter named "Other"?

I love it. And no fancy design, either--just the word. And not in a cool font.
 
2007-12-25 11:24:54 AM  
Man, my grandpa is going to be pissed. It's been his hobby to collect these quarters and go to each state and get a coffee mug to put the roll of quarters in.

Sounds silly but when you're 83 and dying from cancer it's those things that makes you happy. He wanted to live to get all 50 states; hopefully he will.

/sappy post
 
2007-12-25 11:27:18 AM  
I know Puerto Ricans who live here that don't pay taxes.
 
2007-12-25 11:29:54 AM  
I fail to see the downside of this. Really, out of all the sneaky legislation that runs around int these giant funding bills, giving territories quarters doesn't bother me in the slightest. If anything, it might educate Americans to the fact that there are actually....TERRITORIES.
 
2007-12-25 11:31:51 AM  
2010 is the final year. It's the end of 2007. 5 per year. 50-(3*5)=35.
 
2007-12-25 11:34:50 AM  
Will Guantanamo,USA get a quarter ? Maybe get that Lyndy chick on the back or some Muslim waterboarded...That would be cool.
 
2007-12-25 11:35:10 AM  
At least a month ago I saw one of these "map" things that included territories, so apparently SOME people have been paying attention.
 
2007-12-25 11:37:27 AM  
I remember when the state quarters started. I was going through my pockets to do laundry, and I was wondering what that weird-ass quarter with the map of Pennsylvania was doing in my pocket. So, i asked my roommate.

"Hey, do you know anything about coins"

"Yeah, i'm actually a coin collector"

"So, what's this weird ass quarter with the map of Pennsylvania?"

"Oh, yeah, it's the 50 state coin program. They'll be releasing a coin for each state in the order that it was admitted to the union. There's also a Delaware quarter out now."

"Cool. So, if I collected all 50 of these quarters in good condition, and put them in a nice book, would the collection be worth something someday?"

"Yeah, it would be worth something. Precisely $12.50 plus the cost of the book."

he was probably right. I'm guessing there were too many minted for them to ever be worth more than face value. They're interesting, though. I wonder what NM's quarter will look like.
 
2007-12-25 11:50:43 AM  
I can't believe that Canada hasn't been mentioned as deserving a coin. The picture could have a map of the U.S. with an arrow pointing North with "Canada, we play hockey"
 
2007-12-25 11:55:31 AM  
Speaker2Animals: To date, around 30 quarters have been minted.

Hmm. I've got 43 -- every state except Wyoming, Utah (minted late this year) and the five due next year: Oklahoma, NM, Ariz, Alaska and Hawaii. Oddly, the collector board I have has space for six more off the Atlantic Coast.


/what he said
 
2007-12-25 11:56:09 AM  
mriff2
Is there anything these people won't put in a federal spending bill?

I imagine there is, but I'm at a loss to imagine what. Cutting their own pay? Putting Congress people under Social Security/Medicare?
 
2007-12-25 12:06:39 PM  
I heard they were giving one to New Mexico, which isn't even PART of the United states, so why not give one to Guam?
 
2007-12-25 12:06:45 PM  
jake3988: 2010 is the final year. It's the end of 2007. 5 per year. 50-(3*5)=35.

2009 is the final year. They started in 1999.
 
2007-12-25 12:08:48 PM  
Guam, Samoa, etc. are just padding to get in DC and Puerto Rico. I'd be fine with having a DC one, but Puerto Rico (ain't really American) and the other dinky Pacific territories seems kinda stupid.

/no DC statehood
/retrocede to Maryland
 
2007-12-25 12:11:16 PM  
Will we have occupied country quarters?
 
2007-12-25 12:12:22 PM  
jake3988: 2010 is the final year. It's the end of 2007. 5 per year. 50-(3*5)=35.

The first five quarters came out in 1999. The last five quarters (OK, NM, AZ, AK, HI) come out in 2008.

Official Site (new window)
 
2007-12-25 12:20:56 PM  
mialynneb 2007-12-25 11:24:54 AM
Man, my grandpa is going to be pissed. It's been his hobby to collect these quarters and go to each state and get a coffee mug to put the roll of quarters in.

Sounds silly but when you're 83 and dying from cancer it's those things that makes you happy. He wanted to live to get all 50 states; hopefully he will.

/sappy post


Just felt like reposting is all. That was sweet.

My uncle gives me a US mint coin set every year. And all the other nieces and nephews. And has since we were born.

For some reason, it's actually wrapped, even though we all know what it is. I stopped even unwrapping them a few years ago... I think it's to teach us about investment.

I just like it cause I have the entire quarter set without even trying. Or will have, rather. And mint condition to boot. Good times.
 
2007-12-25 12:24:39 PM  
DC has been fighting for statehood since I was a kid... frankly, the idea that people who live in the capitol of the US, but can't have federal representation, or even vote in a presidential election... it's asinine. We can spread afford to spread democracy all around the world, but if you live two blocks from the capitol building, no democracy for you.
 
2007-12-25 12:24:51 PM  
While I paid around $35 for the silver proof set in 1999 it is going on ebay for about $300. Not a bad profit if I sell.
 
2007-12-25 12:34:07 PM  
firefly212: or even vote in a presidential election

The 23rd Amendment would like a word with you...


Simply retrocede all the populated parts to Maryland. Problem solved. The rump District can still hold the important Federal buildings.
 
2007-12-25 12:40:15 PM  
firefly212: DC has been fighting for statehood since I was a kid... frankly, the idea that people who live in the capitol of the US, but can't have federal representation, or even vote in a presidential election... it's asinine. We can spread afford to spread democracy all around the world, but if you live two blocks from the capitol building, no democracy for you.

The people in Washington, DC have been able to vote since the 1970's. I think they have representatives in Congress who can speak on the floor but can't vote on bills.
 
2007-12-25 12:42:56 PM  
DandD: I can't believe that Canada hasn't been mentioned as deserving a coin. The picture could have a map of the U.S. with an arrow pointing North with "Canada, we play hockey"

Oddly enough, Canada beat us to the idea of State Quarters. I have a territorial quarter from Alberta.
 
2007-12-25 12:45:10 PM  
Speaker2Animals: Oddly, the collector board I have has space for six more off the Atlantic Coast.

Atlantis
Avalon
R'lyeh (actually Pacific)
Thule
???
???
 
2007-12-25 12:48:51 PM  
WE SHALL GIVE THEM NO QUARTER!
 
2007-12-25 12:54:09 PM  
redface: Quantumbunny: FTFA To date, around 30 quarters have been minted.

That's odd I have all 30, and I am pretty sure my brother has all 30... I know some of my friends have gotten them as change... how many counterfeit coins are out there if the mint only made 30?

Noone likes a smart-ass.


www.swcp.com

/Mrs. Brown, you've got a lovely smart-ass...
 
2007-12-25 01:10:23 PM  
Gosling: The 30 is wrong. I'm up to date and there are 45 out. (Oklahoma's next up.)

"Brand new State!
(Brand new State!)
Gon-na treat you great!
Gon-na give you bar-ley, car-rots and per-ta-ters,
Pas-ture for yer cat-tle, spin-ach and tom-a-ters,
Flow-ers on the par-rie where June bugs zoom,
Plen-ty of air and plen-ty of room.
Plen-ty of room to swing a ro___pe,
Plen-ty of heart and plen-ty of ho_____pe!"
 
2007-12-25 01:12:20 PM  

ilxixiixs2007-12-25 12:24:51 PM
While I paid around $35 for the silver proof set in 1999 it is going on ebay for about $300. Not a bad profit if I sell.


if you factor in inflation, youll end up being shorted like five bucks.
 
2007-12-25 01:12:32 PM  
The Cureman: Props to PNC for making it to Fark. Rex, Jane, Ray and Travis, keep up the good work.

Hafa Adai Brian......Long time no see. I didn't know you were a Farker!!! Are you back on Guam? I gotta do the Cali thing for now. Bummer......Take care and Merry Christmas.

K/H D
 
2007-12-25 01:18:31 PM  
keeny_75:
The people in Washington, DC have been able to vote since the 1970's. I think they have representatives in Congress who can speak on the floor but can't vote on bills.


They have one representative in the House.

Churchill2004:

Simply retrocede all the populated parts to Maryland. Problem solved. The rump District can still hold the important Federal buildings.

Genius. Let's also reunite West Virginia and Virginia; North and South Carolina, etc.
 
2007-12-25 01:26:41 PM  
When my 50-state board is full, I'll say "there, it's done." Any other afterthoughts they decide to mint will just go into my pocket to be spent just like any other change. Those quarters will be as important as the places they represent.
 
2007-12-25 01:37:00 PM  
The only ones who really want DC to become a state are democrats. The district is almost entirely populated by poor blacks. They'd be guaranteeing themselves 2 more senators and I don't know how many representatives.
 
2007-12-25 01:44:39 PM  
elektronic: keeny_75:
The people in Washington, DC have been able to vote since the 1970's. I think they have representatives in Congress who can speak on the floor but can't vote on bills.

They have one non-voting representative in the House.


FTFY
 
2007-12-25 01:51:00 PM  
keeny_75: The only ones who really want DC to become a state are democrats. The district is almost entirely populated by poor blacks. They'd be guaranteeing themselves 2 more senators and I don't know how many representatives.

You're correct, the people who live there don't really care that they have no say in how their taxes are spent. Especially the area of the city where even the gardeners are white, aka Georgetown.

Nice troll.
 
2007-12-25 01:52:51 PM  
Too all those complaining about the possibility of these quarters, please leave those quarters in my tip jar located in my profile. I'll be happy to dispose of them accordingly.
 
2007-12-25 01:54:44 PM  
Serious: Camacho

Well, that would mean that the dumbening process has already progressed to the level seen in the movie... wait, that's not how you spell dumbening... wait a minute, dumbening isn't even a word!

/mixing and matching references ftw
 
2007-12-25 01:58:26 PM  
Speaker2Animals

Hmm. I've got 43 -- every state except Wyoming, Utah (minted late this year) and the five due next year: Oklahoma, NM, Ariz, Alaska and Hawaii. Oddly, the collector board I have has space for six more off the Atlantic Coast.

Iraq, Israel, Iran, Kosovo, North Korea, Poland ?
 
2007-12-25 02:03:53 PM  
LMark I wonder what NM's quarter will look like.

A picture of a wetback entering the US illegaly?
 
2007-12-25 02:22:19 PM  
jack21221:

Thank you, man. I am glad to see someone here can drop some knowledge on these ignorant people. Please folks, do some research before commenting on something you know little about.
 
2007-12-25 02:30:28 PM  
phestry: I assume the check is in the mail for the $7.95 I paid for my 50 state quarter series collection book, that is now useless and antiquated. I'll be waiting by the mailbox. That is all.

Yeah, mine was useless and antiquated the first time I used it because it did not include spaces for a "standard" quarter (pre-1998) or a 1976 bicentennial quarter. Twenty minutes and 2 exacto knife blades and half a box of bandaids later it did though.

/I don't have the wherewithall to do that again for some US territories that suddenly want to hitch their wagon up to us for the sake of numismatic noteriety
 
2007-12-25 02:43:46 PM  
Phil McKraken: Don't give DC and the territories quarters. Give them dimes.

win. thread over.
 
2007-12-25 02:44:46 PM  
Trozdor: Forty-six, too. (new window)

//speaking of run-of-the-mill fails ...


///speaking of epic failure...the count is 45 not 46.
////suck it Oklahoma, New Mexico, Arizona, Alaska and Hawaii. By my count you are the last 5 states remaining, and as we all hopefully know, 50-5=45 not 46
//and no, my collector book does not have any provision for District of Columbia so I stand by my simple mathematics
 
2007-12-25 02:49:23 PM  
Speaker2Animals: To date, around 30 quarters have been minted.

Hmm. I've got 43 -- every state except Wyoming, Utah (minted late this year) and the five due next year: Oklahoma, NM, Ariz, Alaska and Hawaii. Oddly, the collector board I have has space for six more off the Atlantic Coast.



Yeah,they only have 5 states left next year,this year is done. I got Utah today with my change at CVS. It has "crossroad of the west" with 2 trains facing each other,and a penis in the middle. I knew the mormons would get repped.
 
2007-12-25 02:51:40 PM  
My Utah quarter.
Let me show you it.
 
2007-12-25 03:03:47 PM  
firefly212: DC has been fighting for statehood since I was a kid... frankly, the idea that people who live in the capitol of the US, but can't have federal representation, or even vote in a presidential election... it's asinine. We can spread afford to spread democracy all around the world, but if you live two blocks from the capitol building, no democracy for you.

Gotta correct you there.... DC has 3 electoral votes in presidential elections. With their population it actually means they have a lot of clout in presidential elections, relatively speaking.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Electoral_map.svg
(new window)
 
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