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(St. Petersburg Times)   Commercial fishermen who took up federal loans and encourangement to switch to shark fishing in the 1980s are chomping mad, now that feds have banned shark fishing   (sptimes.com) divider line 16
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2007-12-24 07:23:52 AM  
It used to be pretty common (20 years or so ago, maybe 25, 30 even...sheesh I'm getting old! What? 2008? Screw off!) anyway, it used to be pretty common to catch sand sharks just by accident in most bayous off the Gulf I used to fish in. We used to just kill them and toss them off the dock. Not exactly helping I guess.

But that was apparently a long time ago, with ecosystems that have since disappeared?
 
2007-12-24 07:29:37 AM  
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"You're gonna need a bigger smaller boat."
 
2007-12-24 08:50:38 AM  
Tragedy of the commons.....
 
2007-12-24 09:23:10 AM  
Confabulat: It used to be pretty common (20 years or so ago, maybe 25, 30 even...sheesh I'm getting old! What? 2008? Screw off!) anyway, it used to be pretty common to catch sand sharks just by accident in most bayous off the Gulf I used to fish in. We used to just kill them and toss them off the dock. Not exactly helping I guess.

But that was apparently a long time ago, with ecosystems that have since disappeared?


I still get them pretty often in eastern Long Island. Of course, we didn't kill them, so that might have helped. A little. Probably not that much though. What was I saying again?
 
2007-12-24 09:27:52 AM  
Cue the Whaaabulance! RTFA subby. It's not a permanant ban, just a temporary ban. If they cannot pay their loan, fark off. The article said that one guy made 6K in two weeks. I under stand that that is not every time, you can average out a good pay. And with pay close to that, the loan could have been paid off real fast.
 
2007-12-24 10:05:10 AM  
Fish less you uneducated losers...

Less fish at market = less product + same/higher demand = profit.

It's working in Australia, and other places. Learn how the supply and demand curve's work and use it.
 
2007-12-24 11:39:24 AM  
I remember when I thought catching sharks would be very cool. Then I started Tuna fishing, and realized the damn things are the vultures of the sea.
 
2007-12-24 11:41:11 AM  
WFT is encourangement?
 
2007-12-24 11:48:49 AM  
TyrantII: Learn how the supply and demand curve's work and use it.

Learn how the apostrophe works and use it.
 
2007-12-24 12:39:21 PM  
Found a long-liner's equipment scattered all over Padre Island National Seashore on my last beach excursion. He lost over 3-4 grand worth of gear in a tropical depression that hammered the Gulf. I was happy for him. This buoy alone costs 4-500 bucks.
These bastards are killing our oceans.

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2007-12-24 12:59:06 PM  
monster87: I remember when I thought catching sharks would be very cool. Then I started Tuna fishing, and realized the damn things are the vultures of the sea.

That's why they're so important. They eat up all the dead/dying crap to keep down disease.
 
2007-12-24 02:20:30 PM  
I was one of the commercial fisherman who was eligible for government help when they enacted the net ban. The people that the federal government sent were not experts, most of them were fresh out of college with little life experience. They were trying to push the locals into going into aquaculture (oyster farming, tipala and catfish) but the start up costs for such endeavors made the entire idea unworkable.

The government bought my nets, and strongly suggested that I go on welfare and food stamps, while they sent me to vocational school for retraining. I studied on it for a week, concluded that they were completely full of prunes and never went back.

Since I knew the Gulf, I tried working charters, taking folks out for hire. This lasted until I started to fantasize about killing the people that I was taking out; going from being a good fish producer to being a babysitter for drunks on vacation was very bad for my peace of mind.

The net ban was needed; it was not only the American fisherman who were overfishing but also the self-contained supertankers from Russia and Poland were dragging the fishing lanes (50 miles out), not only taking the majority of the fish but also tearing up the seabottom up so that the fish had no ecosystem to spawn and reproduce. The results that the net ban produced speak for itself, NOAA was very correct in pushing it.

The push in shark fishing in the Gulf came from some Japanese company who were flying shark fins from Mobile and Houston back to Japan on a daily basis; this had hit it's peak a few years before the net ban took effect and I never even considered using that as a permanent source of income. That particular type of fishing was done by people who were undisciplined and lacking the overhead that normally caused the commercial boats to stay in one area. Being a fellow with a family, it was just never an option to me. A few of my buddies did it, but most of them got out years ago due to the dwindling number of sharks and the high costs of chasing them (gas, mainly)

The one thing that is saving the fish population in the Gulf of Mexico near the big bend area of Florida are the federally restricted areas (Madison/Swanson, Steamboat Lumps.) The republicans wanted to drill for oil there, but Jeb Bush (of all people) refused to listen to them, and now it looks as if the republicans are going to go away for a few years.
 
2007-12-25 09:30:20 AM  
Well, they had to outlaw shark fishing now that sharks are armed with frickin' laser beams. DUH!

www.agi.com
 
2007-12-25 05:30:00 PM  
The old bait and switch?
 
2007-12-26 01:42:48 AM  
Sharks taste like ass.
 
2007-12-27 12:03:32 PM  
When I got into this business (25 years ago) most most of the tonnage was caught by day boats.
Not so much anymore. Factory processors are a bane and have been since their beginning.
The retail prices are at historical highs and across the board, margins have never been this thin.
I'm thinking of going into the produce business.
 
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