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2007-12-20 12:34:56 PM
Manager is a pussy.
 
2007-12-20 12:35:32 PM
who the hell even eats inside a mcdonalds anymore
 
2007-12-20 12:36:15 PM
So he's discriminating against a group of people that are costing him money in damages AND driving away other customers? I'd say he sounds like a Hamburger U honor graduate to me!

This woman is a clear example of the difference between liberal (someone looking to shape government to drive equality and humanity) and a "libtard" (someone looking for a handout no matter how ill-deserved, and espousing the victim mentality above all else). She makes people with legitimate social issues look bad, Fark her.
 
2007-12-20 12:36:31 PM
It will benefit the kids in the long run though. Maybe instead of fattening up at Mcdonalds they will eat healthier, less greasy food.

Mcdonalds food is inferior and disgusting anyway.
 
2007-12-20 12:36:46 PM
did anyone post a picture of the sign yet?
 
2007-12-20 12:37:02 PM
dennysgod: *yawn* If you go to any convenience store or gas station in the US within a few blocks of a school you'll see this sign posted during the school year.

Word. That was the case when I went to high school. Over a quarter-century ago.

/go north springs spartans!
 
2007-12-20 12:37:24 PM
This thread? I'm lovin' it.
 
2007-12-20 12:38:34 PM
oh by the way for the 30th time. did anyone post a picture of the sign yet?

/LOL!
 
2007-12-20 12:38:51 PM
Bulf: Mcdonalds food is inferior and disgusting anyway.

Compared to what? The other most popular restaurants on the planet? No... wait, you're right. I just wanted to rant. Their fries are good, though.
 
2007-12-20 12:39:47 PM
I wish they would isolate the specific problems they're trying to avoid and erradicate them instead of punishing all the Evans High School students.

If some butt-twangs are committing vandalism or creating ruckuses or doing dope, then make a sign that says "Anyone caught committing acts of vandalism, creating disturbances, or bringing illegal substances into the premisis will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law."

Then make good on it and slap cuffs on anyone and everyone who breaks any of these rules, and banish them from the place. Give them enough jailtime, fines, and/or community service to piss off the ACLU.


/yeah, I'm being naive and idealistic, I know, but I hate to see people get punished for other people's crimes
 
2007-12-20 12:40:04 PM
I'm outraged by the piss-poor writing in this article. Looks like something my seven-year-old would turn in at school.
 
2007-12-20 12:40:07 PM
At one of the four McDonalds in my hometown there was this guy called Cowboy, he was this big dude with a mad jheri curl, he had like this homemade security guard uniform he would wear and he would walk around and keep the kids in check. Not sure if what he was doing was legal, but no one ever complained, but it was simpler time back then, a time when one was not so easily offended.
 
2007-12-20 12:40:11 PM
Fair and balanced coverage from the fox affiliate maybe should have included something about a business' right to refuse service to anyone. That includes those who have a trend of being disruptive, irresponsible law-breakers, and those loudmouths who scream prejudice and discrimination anytime someone stands up for themself.

When we who know what living in a civilized society requires of us have to concede to those who can't handle themselves responsibly, it's unfortunate. I hope the business owners can come to an amicable resolution, perhaps calling on the school district to close their campuses for lunch if necessary, and I hope the person complaining about discrimination gets put in her place.

(I know that the networks usually have no say over the content and style of the local affiliate's news -- the 'fair and balanced' notation is just a dig)
 
2007-12-20 12:40:18 PM
dennysgod: *yawn* If you go to any convenience store or gas station in the US within a few blocks of a school you'll see this sign posted during the school year.

Exactly! The convenience store across the street from the highschool where my wife teaches has such a sign. Something along the lines of 'no more than 3 students in the store at one time'.

What's the big deal?
 
2007-12-20 12:41:12 PM
Earguy: I googled the high school, and it looks like it's fairly racially integrated. But I found this comment under reviews: (pops)

I think the academic program is great and the music, art, sports and others. I really felt bad with the cheerleader squad with the 2 boys that was acting like girls. This is unacceptable! The bank and team were great!!


Every single comment on that page had grammar problems. I'm no grammar nazi, but the only parents that are involved enough to actually post comments on their kids' school's website aren't even 80%-90% literate. Imagine how literate the rest of the parents are. This country is falling into academic decay and only retards like me that post on interweb threads really give a shiat.
 
2007-12-20 12:41:20 PM
She should just be honest and admit that she wants to score some high school boy.
 
2007-12-20 12:41:27 PM
MattyBlast: I wish they would isolate the specific problems they're trying to avoid and erradicate them instead of punishing all the Evans High School students.

If some butt-twangs are committing vandalism or creating ruckuses or doing dope, then make a sign that says "Anyone caught committing acts of vandalism, creating disturbances, or bringing illegal substances into the premisis will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law."

Then make good on it and slap cuffs on anyone and everyone who breaks any of these rules, and banish them from the place. Give them enough jailtime, fines, and/or community service to piss off the ACLU.


/yeah, I'm being naive and idealistic, I know, but I hate to see people get punished for other people's crimes


Not really. I was a manager at a McDonald's that not only was right next to a high school, but was also right next to a college. Between the high school and drunk college kids, it could get rediculous. I had to call the cops many times, but you shouldn't punish all the kids for a few morans.
 
2007-12-20 12:42:17 PM
when i was a teenager (1980's), they used to have signs like that up all over town in convenience store windows and to this day( I still see them .. its a fairly common thing.

mostly because after school, the middle school kids and stop at these convenience stores and congregate, shoplift, make a mess, and discourage customers from coming in.

in any event, the owner \ manager of a store has the right to refuse, restrict service to anyone they want.

this is just some attention whore who found someone who's willing to cave.
 
2007-12-20 12:42:20 PM
Doubletwist-: Exactly! The convenience store across the street from the highschool where my wife teaches has such a sign. Something along the lines of 'no more than 3 students in the store at one time'.

What's the big deal?


That's a big difference. In your example its a size issue. See this photo for proof:

i20.photobucket.com
 
2007-12-20 12:42:29 PM
also, there were some kids that were banned. when they showed up, cops were called.
 
2007-12-20 12:42:43 PM
Nestea Plunge: Sharch: Nestea Plunge: Well, if you want to enjoy a meal like civilized people, act like civilized people don't dine at McDonalds.

Well, if i'm swinging by for some fries, I don't want the whole cast of Krush Groove in there.


winner ... in my humble opinion.
 
2007-12-20 12:44:07 PM
Is it controversial because of the bad grammar?

YOU WILL BE ALLOWED THREE AT A TIME

Allowed three what?

THANKYOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION

Last time I checked "Thank You" was two words.
 
2007-12-20 12:45:14 PM
TFA has got to be a new low in editing. "Over the weekend, she saw a sign it reads"? Do they have third-graders writing their copy?
 
2007-12-20 12:45:20 PM
I heard it was one of those "Rich White Folks" McDonalds...
 
2007-12-20 12:46:40 PM
Bulf: It will benefit the kids in the long run though. Maybe instead of fattening up at Mcdonalds they will eat healthier, less greasy food.

Mcdonalds food is inferior and disgusting anyway.


Nope. They'll just go to the next fast food restaurant around the corner, or head to a convenient mart to get soda, chips and cigarettes. (I know they're in high school ... didn't stop me from getting cigarettes)
 
2007-12-20 12:48:54 PM
brifar: who the hell even eats inside a mcdonalds anymore

People who don't let cubicles run their lives?
 
2007-12-20 12:49:02 PM
If the writing in this article is any indication of the education level of graduates from that High School, I'm surprised the Manager hasn't tried distracting this lone-complainer with shiny keys.
 
2007-12-20 12:50:25 PM
goliad
when i was a teenager (1980's), they used to have signs like that up all over town in convenience store windows and to this day( I still see them .. its a fairly common thing.

mostly because after school, the middle school kids and stop at these convenience stores and congregate, shoplift, make a mess, and discourage customers from coming in.

in any event, the owner \ manager of a store has the right to refuse, restrict service to anyone they want.

this is just some attention whore who found someone who's willing to cave.


QFT
 
2007-12-20 12:51:37 PM
"30, 40 years ago..."

WTF is she talking about? Summer of love? Golden age of disco? Is she trying to equate this with some kind of civil rights struggle?, because if she is, that's some epic stupidity.
 
2007-12-20 12:51:46 PM
Did anybody catch this at the top of the page?
Caught on Tape: Parents Fight At School Program
 
2007-12-20 12:51:53 PM
"This page is temporarily unavailable. Please check back later."


Behold the power of Fark!
 
2007-12-20 12:52:43 PM
N. S. Radieaux: Stick this flyer on it.

Problem solved.


Technically, and statistically any hornet you run into is going to be a girl.

/Why did I get up this morning?
 
2007-12-20 12:53:49 PM
Rev_Obijuan: I'm outraged by the piss-poor writing in this article. Looks like something my seven-year-old would turn in at school.

If I had tried to write something like that to pass in when I was 7, my mom would have made me rewrite it until it didn't suck. That was an utterly terrible excuse for an article.

/english teacher mom FTW
 
2007-12-20 12:56:56 PM
Sounds like a stupid move by management to me. Sure high school kids are loud, annoying and general trouble. That doesn't change the fact that they are probably generating the bulk of the revenue at that McDonald's at that time. Who else is eating at McDonald's in the mid-afternoon? Sure there's a problem with illegal activities, but deciding not to let them dine in is throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Making them wait outside would probably lose the McDonald's more customers than the students were scaring off anyway. Also, I doubt corporate would like the idea either. The woman, however, is a little crazy unless the article exaggerated how she felt.

Also, they limit the kids in a convenience store in order to reduce theft. In this case, the kids are going to cause an equal amount of trouble outside as they can inside.
 
2007-12-20 12:57:07 PM
I remember 30 years ago when people couldn't order food. We had to make our own food. Sure it was a tough life but we were happy. Of course back then we didn't know any other way so it was cool.
 
2007-12-20 12:58:49 PM
Perhaps Ms. Buttinski would like to spend some time at the McDonalds policing student behavior. Then the sign and cops would be unnecessary.

/Me thinks she is just an attention whore.
 
2007-12-20 12:59:11 PM
I don't see a problem with this...the sign says "students", not "black students"...it applies to everyone.

Anyone that has ever been unfortunate enough to be in a McD's when a local school is at lunch knows why. Place turns into a damn madhouse and suddenly the burger flippers are babysitters.

For someone to immediately link this to racism simply shows us how monumentally stupid that person is.
 
2007-12-20 12:59:39 PM
Umm... lots of stores where I live have signs prohibiting more than 3 students at a time during certain hours, as their stores become clogged with kids who don't buy stuff - and have often stolen stuff!

This has nothing to do with race - it has to do with kids causing problems and business owners trying to handle the influx.

Get off my lawn.

/30 yr old white chick
//grrrrr
///farkin' kids
 
2007-12-20 01:01:35 PM
Years ago, I managed a Pizza Hut that was right across the street from a movie theater. There was actually a pizza joint right next to the movie theater, but after years of dealing with bratty kids and unruly teenagers, they made it 18 and over (unless accompanied by a parent) after 9 pm.

Guess where all those precious snowflakes ended up?

For months we had to deal with teenagers who would order two baskets of breadsticks with 15 tomato sauces and 15 waters, then leave the most obnoxious mess ever...with no tip.

The final straw was when I kicked a group of them out for disturbing other customers, and they all went out in to the parking lot and started throwing rocks and candy at an employee's car. He went outside and started screaming at them to stop. One of their parents came to pick them up shortly thereafter, and had the audacity to rake me over the coals because my employee had hurt his snowflake's feelings. When I explained to him that his kid was throwing rocks at a vehicle, he said that it was just candy, no rocks, and that there was no reason for us to have yelled at them.

(Soo...as long as it's candy, it's ok? WTF kind of morals are you teaching your kid?)

He then started in with the "I'm calling the cops and I'm calling your district manager and I'm never eating here again..." speech. I told him he was welcome to call the police, and his kids were no longer welcome in my store, and if he wanted to sit tight, I'd be happy to get the phone number for my district manager. He stormed out of the store and I never saw him or his snowflake again.

After that we made it a rule that all post movie teenage groups had to order a pizza and breadsticks at a minimum. That solved the problem immediately...after paying for the movie and the snack bar, the kids rarely had enough to pay for anything else. :)
 
2007-12-20 01:01:40 PM
I'm with the store manager on this one. In some college towns you have students using your establishment as a study hall. You have kids coming in and buying a soda, coffee and hogging seating for hours. Plus, you have all of the other problems that the manager reported.
 
2007-12-20 01:02:16 PM
ihatedumbpeople: I don't see a problem with this...the sign says "students", not "black students"...it applies to everyone.

Anyone that has ever been unfortunate enough to be in a McD's when a local school is at lunch knows why. Place turns into a damn madhouse and suddenly the burger flippers are babysitters.

For someone to immediately link this to racism simply shows us how monumentally stupid that person is.


it's not racism...until it affects a black person. then it's clearly racism.

back in the day, when i was a lifeguard i told this girl to quit smoking on the pooldeck b/c it is prohibited. her response was "you racist motherfarker, you don't make the white people put out their cigarettes." she was the only person smoking on the pool deck...
 
2007-12-20 01:06:22 PM
i73.photobucket.com
 
2007-12-20 01:06:28 PM
"But Campbell says there has to be a better way of handling the situations."

Yeah, teach the Evans High School PARENTS how to raise proper acting children.
 
2007-12-20 01:07:31 PM
img.photobucket.com
 
2007-12-20 01:08:01 PM
PerpetualMotion 2007-12-20 12:45:20 PM

I heard it was one of those "Rich White Folks" McDonalds...


Not likely. I graduated from Evans 30 years ago and it wasn't all that great back then, either. The area is called Pine Hills, now known as Crime Hills (and has been so known for about the last 20 years). It was a so-so area back in the 70's. Now, you don't even want to drive thru there in the daytime.

/Yes, I know you were making a joke.
 
2007-12-20 01:08:56 PM
StormChaser - I used to be one of those kids who ordered breadsticks and water - sorry about that - but we never would have thrown anything at someone's car. And had I done so, and you'd told my dad about it, I'd still be grounded.

And these types of signs were up in places back in the late 70's. I agree that not letting any students stay to eat is odd, but it would make sense to have a limit on the number who could be there at one time. Or hire some serious security guards.
 
2007-12-20 01:09:55 PM
Has it ever occurred to this lady that high school kids, especially in large numbers, can be inconsiderate assholes?

When I was in high school in 1987, me and some friends would routinely go to the local convenience store during lunch. The owner, who was very cool to all of us, had a security guard at the door that only allowed 3-5 of us in at a time. Adults customers, however, were always let.

It sucked and took up most of our lunch period. But the owner had to do something to control the influx of students that would go to his store every day.

Go fight for something more worthwhile, lady. This isn't cutting it.
 
2007-12-20 01:11:32 PM
"But Campbell says there has to be a better way of handling the situations."

Ohh I know.

He should lock the doors, board up the establishment, burn it to the ground, and salt the earth. Then and only then will it be fair.
 
2007-12-20 01:12:29 PM
Beverly Campbell says the sign reminds her of 30, 40 years ago when people couldn't order food ....

Then WTF were they doing? Was McDonalds sitting there for decoration? People could order food, you twit. Just not certain people. If you're going to play the race card, don't be a twat about it.
 
2007-12-20 01:14:07 PM
This is awful. It reminds me of the dark days before the Civil Rights Movement when all Evan's Highschool students had to use Evan's Highschool-only drinking fountains and were forced to ride to school at the back of the bus.
/it took twice as many buses to get them all to school.
//I have a dream that Evan's Highschool Students will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the school that they attend, but on their behavior in a McDonalds.
 
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