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2007-12-18 01:33:48 AM  
Darn; there goes Smitty's only hope of getting laid, the poor schmuck.
 
2007-12-18 02:29:56 AM  
RIP virginmitter's sex life
 
2007-12-18 02:40:07 AM  
What?

No!

I haven't been there yet!
 
2007-12-18 02:40:11 AM  
Now you can get a whore and screw in a church bathroom or a confessional booth.

Its more exiting that way!
 
2007-12-18 02:40:48 AM  
Next they outlaw pot and see those massive tourist dollars dry up like a turd on a bad stretch of road.
 
2007-12-18 02:41:39 AM  
Roxanne... you don't have to put on the red light tonight...
 
2007-12-18 02:47:34 AM  
First they started charging for the Heineken brewery tour...now this...all the place has left is beautiful scenery, cheap beer and marijuana.....
 
2007-12-18 02:49:08 AM  
FTFA
"We don't want to get rid of prostitution but we do want to cut crime significantly."

No, they aren't getting rid of the red light district. Stupid tourist dollars are important to them. They would like to ease back on the organized crime influence though, I'm guessing because criminals don't pay their taxes.
 
2007-12-18 02:50:09 AM  
From what I've heard Amsterdam sucks and is just for tourist's if you really want to see the Netherlands go elsewhere.

/it's not just in Amsterdam that laws are lax
//heard this from someone who lives out there
 
2007-12-18 02:50:20 AM  
THis way they can sell more wooden clogs.
 
2007-12-18 02:51:26 AM  
FTFA: "We don't want to get rid of prostitution but we do want to cut crime significantly."
Okay... that works for me. ~ NOT SMITTY
FTFA:"replace prostitutes' windows with upmarket boutiques"
Uhmm... not so much...
FTFA:"as a tourist you don't have to feel embarrassed or ashamed about what you see."
AS IF

/;)
 
2007-12-18 02:54:09 AM  
Only saw one really hot "worker" in the district, most of them were... um... fat/ugly.
 
2007-12-18 02:57:15 AM  
Yeah right. They may relocate or rearrange the hookers, but they're never going away...
 
2007-12-18 02:58:33 AM  
CoreyFeldman - sometimes it's full of hotties, other times full of dogs. I've noticed it's very variable indeed. The three next to the casa rosa are usually equipped with hot Hungarian teens, though.
 
2007-12-18 02:58:42 AM  
I've been there, and I agree that they do need to clean it up a bit. The main strip is fine, except for the guys selling stolen bikes and hard drugs. Down the side streets, you get some youth gangs, and some of the working women don't exactly look like they're 18. I hate to say it's a result of Moroccan immigration, but...
 
2007-12-18 03:00:19 AM  
So, what's so exciting about the Homomonument?
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Or the Tulip Museum?
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The Red Light District has much better window shopping. ;)
 
2007-12-18 03:04:34 AM  
This article's editing brought to you by Charles Dick. Mr. Dick knows all about red light districts, surely.
 
2007-12-18 03:06:17 AM  
fta: "Amsterdam announced plans Monday to clean up its infamous red light district to fight human trafficking, money laundering and drug abuse and replace prostitutes' windows with upmarket boutiques"

Question: How is this "sad"? I know farkers will be on me like bees on spilled soda, but, come on people.
 
2007-12-18 03:10:01 AM  
Subby needs to read - they're not shutting it down. I can understand that they would like to shape up the area; but I stayed in the red light district last summer and its seediness was a good portion of its appeal.
 
2007-12-18 03:10:26 AM  
I live in A-dam. Actually, I live in the 1012 (the postcode extending from de Dam to Centraal Station, including the red light district).

From the talk here, "Project 1012" will be phased in over 10 years, they're going to try to gentrify the streets such as Nieuwendijk, etc. where there's still an absurd amount of coffeeshops and immigrant-run boutique shops, etc.

As for the prostitutes, some 70 (of 350) windows are being bought up by the government, and will be out of commission starting Jan 1st. There will clearly still be prostitution (in the red light), as well as in the sex clubs scattered all over the city.
 
2007-12-18 03:12:41 AM  
When I was there this summer the ratio of hotties to fuglies was at least 2 to 1.

Got a hummer from a pretty Greek brunette, but a blow job over a condom is kind of lame. She was easy on the eyes though.

/it was 50 or 60 euro, can't remember.
//had no car, spent a lot of time walking, walking, walking
///got drunk and lost too...
 
2007-12-18 03:19:37 AM  
tweek46420: From what I've heard Amsterdam sucks and is just for tourist's if you really want to see the Netherlands go elsewhere.

i wouldn't say that it "sucks", but to me it's just like a regular big city, much like chicago (the large city near where i grew up). it's got museums, shopping, and pretty much the same things that you find in other big cities. many things that you can get in amsterdam that draw the tourists you can get in any other large city in the netherlands. my impression of the things that i noticed most about amsterdam is the hellacious traffic, the astronomical cost of parking, and the throngs of tourists. amsterdam's coffeeshop density seems higher than other cities that aren't quite as large, but coffeeshops do exist in other cities. i have not visited the red-light district in amsterdam or any other city, so i can't make a comparison, but those types of establishments can also be found in other cities. amsterdam isn't really a must-see city in my opinion, so i'd have to agree with most of what you've heard about amsterdam.
 
2007-12-18 03:20:09 AM  
I think the window shop owners charge based on time of day. The hottest were out in the evening on the weekends, and WOW were they hot.
 
2007-12-18 03:22:14 AM  
rf134a: The Red Light District has much better window shopping. ;)


All I saw was damaged goods.
 
2007-12-18 03:22:18 AM  
samiam00: amsterdam isn't really a must-see city in my opinion, so i'd have to agree with most of what you've heard about amsterdam

It is WELL worth seeing.
 
2007-12-18 03:22:18 AM  
photos23.flickr.com

"I ain't gay! I was just looking down his pants 'cause i heard his shlong was so big, and juicy! No wait! That didn't sound right! "
 
2007-12-18 03:23:21 AM  
The Gordie Howe Hat Trick: said spent a lot of time walking, walking,

not a bad price to pay for a euro bj, imho...
 
2007-12-18 03:25:00 AM  
ultraholland: All I saw was damaged goods

You probably saw the one's that nobody was "renting" at the time.
I walked around the circle several times (great candy shops nearby... that's what I was really there for... I swear... honest... you believe me right ? I just had a really strong totally unconnected desire for large amounts of candy cuz the coffee made me.)

No other city on earth was quite like it (and I have been to hundreds of cities)
 
2007-12-18 03:26:42 AM  
T.J. Hicks: Did you know Holland invented chicken and waffles?

Deuce Bigalow: Really?

T.J. Hicks: Before that you could get chicken or waffles, but they were the first to put them together! Black people all over the world will be forever grateful to the Dutch for that.

Deuce Bigalow: You know the Dutch started the slave trade.

T.J. Hicks: THOSE MOTHER F*CKERS!
 
2007-12-18 03:29:07 AM  
Slartibartfaster

I'm a fan of the place. Trying to go back this summer.
/the coffee is quite potent ;)
 
2007-12-18 03:29:30 AM  
ultraholland: rf134a: The Red Light District has much better window shopping. ;)


All I saw was damaged goods.


I don't get how some people miss it, but there are areas where the girls are SMOKING hot. With all the quantity and variety for all the farker's perversions out there.


tweek46420: From what I've heard Amsterdam sucks and is just for tourist's if you really want to see the Netherlands go elsewhere.


Uh. Rotterdam's basically a smaller, more boring version of Amsterdam with all around less to do. Same with every other dutch city around here.
 
2007-12-18 03:30:36 AM  
Come on now, if you're replacing the "windows" with boutiques, wouldn't that entail a bit of relocation of the previous business and not just the window itself? I can't see a high dollar tourist shoppe for trinkets working side by side with hookers.

and even, straight up:
They will be replaced by chic apartments, upmarket shops, galleries and high-quality hotels and restaurants, Asscher said, adding that young fashion designers already plan to display their clothes in the windows of one former brothel from January.

All you people jumping on subby for saying "shutting down" the actual district seem to be, freaking retarded. Unless the article is wrong or misleading, either way it's not Subby's fault that he/she has drawn a conclusion that's pretty much right plain.

We find out though, according to exiguous that the article is misleading, atleast for the time being, only 70 windows are going to be changed.

/Get off my la....subby
 
2007-12-18 03:30:54 AM  
MudGuster: The Gordie Howe Hat Trick: said spent a lot of time walking, walking,

not a bad price to pay for a euro bj, imho...


Well, she was nice to me, we talked for a bit then got down to business. I'd never done that kind of thing before but, you know, when in Rome...

Very pretty city though, especially relative to the sub-division metropolis of Phoenix where I live.
 
2007-12-18 03:31:33 AM  
MudGuster not a bad price to pay for a euro bj, imho...

You kidding? That's a rip-off tourist price. You should be able to negotiate down to 20 euros for a BJ, unless you paid by the hour and decided that all you wanted to do, 50 euroes is ridiculous.
 
2007-12-18 03:35:07 AM  
tweek46420: From what I've heard Amsterdam sucks and is just for tourist's if you really want to see the Netherlands go elsewhere.

/it's not just in Amsterdam that laws are lax
//heard this from someone who lives out there


Eh, I lived in the Netherlands this past summer in Den Haag. I did a fair amount of traveling around the country.

Rotterdam had some nice things going for it (young, very good bars/clubs, etc), but a lot of it was massively urbanized (thanks to Ze Germans) and a bit on the dirty side. The Hague had a really nice beach and some interesting tourist attractions, but had a terrible night life. Places like Leiden, Delft, and Utrecht all had their attractions, but none of them were interesting enough to make me want to go back and visit.

Amsterdam, on the other hand, was awesome in many different ways. Yes, stupid hippies and college students will yap on and on about the drugs you can easily get at coffeeshops and stores around the city, but that is true of many places in the Netherlands. Yes, the prostitutes are also readily noticeable in the Red Light District for the tourists to gawk at and to attract a variety of sleazy human beings.

However, if you look past the Red Light District, you'll see one of the most vibrant and enjoyable cities in Europe. There is a ton of history in the city. There are some really fun museums (although, the Rijksmuseum is still under construction *grumble grumble*). There's a heck of a lot of good food and beer. It's surprisingly easy to get around via walking or cycling. There are a lot of cool buildings around the city. The canals make for great boating opportunities. Finally, there are enough nooks and crannies to keep curious tourists occupied long enough with whatever random things they may came across. I was wandering around on a seemingly deserted side street when somehow stumbled onto the set of a Dutch TV show and was mistaken for an extra.

Frankly, Amsterdam is worth visiting and exploring. I loved it.
 
2007-12-18 03:36:46 AM  
I went to the dam with a couple of friends as a 16 year old tiddler.
Best and most educational holiday ever.

/liberal parents are great
 
2007-12-18 03:37:12 AM  
exiguous

Don't get me wrong, I saw plenty of women that were well above any standards I may have. But the working women whom I saw around Warmoesstraat were quite busted. Then again, I wasn't shopping.
 
2007-12-18 03:38:33 AM  
cornell_cng: MudGuster not a bad price to pay for a euro bj, imho...

You kidding? That's a rip-off tourist price. You should be able to negotiate down to 20 euros for a BJ, unless you paid by the hour and decided that all you wanted to do, 50 euroes is ridiculous.


Every single girl in de Walletjes (red light) charges 50 euros for a S&F.

omeganuepsilon The article's misleading b/c the project aims to gentrify the whole 1012, not just the area within it where you see actual red light windows. They intend on putting in high-class boutiques, shops, and hotels around de Dam and Nieuwendijk, not de Walletjes.

As far as preferring church-visiting tourists, de "Oude Kerk" of Amsterdam is where the absolute hottest prostitutes can be found. ;)
 
2007-12-18 03:39:25 AM  
cornell_cng - I'm with Mudguster on this one. You ever had a BJ from a woman you just out-haggled? Compare and contrast with the one you've just overpaid for and chatted to.
 
2007-12-18 03:41:24 AM  
My only regret was that I never made it out to Maastricht. I hear that is a really fun city.

Also, I sincerely miss wine gums and Westmalle. The Westmalle I've found in the US simply cannot measure up to how good that stuff was when I was over there. Moreover, I can't find wine gums over here. That makes me really sad.

/Sure as hell don't miss the weather, though. Blech, what a crappy summer.
 
2007-12-18 03:41:28 AM  
ultraholland: Then again, I wasn't shopping

thumbs.dreamstime.com
 
2007-12-18 03:41:52 AM  
ultraholland: exiguous

Don't get me wrong, I saw plenty of women that were well above any standards I may have. But the working women whom I saw around Warmoesstraat were quite busted. Then again, I wasn't shopping.


Yeah, haha, definitely true. Warmoesstraat can be pretty busted - fat, 45 year old women with missing teeth. I never understood how they were able to work with the stunning 20-year old Eastern European girls just over on OZA and around the Oude Kerk.
 
2007-12-18 03:43:34 AM  
Outshined_One: My only regret was that I never made it out to Maastricht. I hear that is a really fun city.

Also, I sincerely miss wine gums and Westmalle. The Westmalle I've found in the US simply cannot measure up to how good that stuff was when I was over there. Moreover, I can't find wine gums over here. That makes me really sad.

/Sure as hell don't miss the weather, though. Blech, what a crappy summer.


I'm at work eating wine gums as we speak ;)

Westmalle = nectar of the gods. My fridge is always stocked.
 
2007-12-18 03:43:56 AM  
Outshined_One: Westmalle I've found in the US simply cannot measure up to how good that stuff was when I was over there

Candy in general kinda sucks in the US. (there are some stunners, but the base level is very low)
Fortunately we travel a lot so get to bring some back here.

Candy should have sugar not this corn syrup crap... and flavor OTHER than corn syrup :(
 
2007-12-18 03:45:16 AM  
Favorite thing I did in Amsterdam (that would also be legal at home)? Rented a bike and rode to Zaanse Schaans. So awesome
 
2007-12-18 03:45:48 AM  
GavinoI'm with Mudguster on this one. You ever had a BJ from a woman you just out-haggled? Compare and contrast with the one you've just overpaid for and chatted to.

To present an alternate viewpoint: compare and contrast one from a woman that somewhat respects you to one that thinks you're a doormat. There's a lot of very good literature on the general subject online, but to summarize a lot of it:

1. 95% of the hot or otherwise women on the main tourist strips aren't worth it.
2. It's ALL negotiable, but be specific.
3. You're not there to please them, they are there to please you - if they don't, they don't get repeat customers and fail.
 
2007-12-18 03:46:26 AM  
samiam00 - amsterdam isn't really a must-see city in my opinion

Wow. Don't know how you can say that. Hookers and blow aside it's an amazing city. Very human friendly, great food, wonderful museums and galleries, the best small bookshops I've ever come across, great architecture, hot chicks on bikes. The canals alone are worth experiencing. Oh, and hookers and blow.
 
2007-12-18 03:46:35 AM  
exiguous: I'm at work eating wine gums as we speak ;)

Westmalle = nectar of the gods. My fridge is always stocked.


If you have those glasses that always accompany Westmalle when served in the bars, consider yourself the subject of considerable envy.
 
2007-12-18 03:48:18 AM  
cornell_cng - point taken and that is pretty much how I'd approach ordering absolutely anything but sex.
 
2007-12-18 03:49:47 AM  
Gavino: Wow. Don't know how you can say that

Put that in contest with another comment in that post.

samiam00: much like chicago

Amsterdam is like Chicago ?!?
Yeah, like blue is just like green, they are both colors right ?
 
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