Total cigarette sales increased by 4.4% in value this year to £9.75 billion, according to The Grocer. But the volume of sales fell by 2% as people smoked fewer cigarettes. brought them back from Spain and saved themselves a shiatload of money.

steevmit: Total cigarette sales increased by 4.4% in value this year to £9.75 billion, according to The Grocer. But the volume of sales fell by 2% as people smoked fewer cigarettes. brought them back from Spain and saved themselves a shiatload of money bought them cheap from mates who did regular runs into Belgium.

Not that there's anything right with that...

That's because supermarkets sell like 15 brands of Cigarettes, 20 brands of booze and 3,000 brands of food.

Let me tell you a little secret, Rainman: Oasis sucks.

Budweiser and Michelob are the preferred beverages right? I know how much the rest of the world loves American beer!

skinink: Let me tell you a little secret, Rainman: Oasis sucks.

B-b-but... the next Beatles?!

Nice subby.

/The Beatles of our generation.
//Dont look back in anger.
///I heard ya say.

Lyrics, let me show you them (new window)

Not the next Beatles, but almost every person can relate to emotions in their songs.

there's a brand called cigarettes?

fark Oasis.

slimshaydee: Not the next Beatles, but almost every person can relate to emotions in their songs.

Wow a middle ground in the Oasis debate, I'm shocked!

ToobTopTuesdays: Lyrics, let me show you them (new window)

Maynard can write just as "amazing" lyrics and have it be about buttsex.

/Lyrics do not make a band
//Love Tool so please don't see my comment as a dig against them
///I don't want it I just need it to feel to breath to know I'm alive
////Anal fisting

Bootysama: Wow a middle ground in the Oasis debate, I'm shocked!

Heh. I'm fine with Oasis - What's the Story Morning Glory is a really great album, but it doesn't have the timelessness of the Beatles. It sounds like a '90s album. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

/ask my well-used Third Eye Blind CD
//but don't tell my hipster friends

slimshaydee: Not the next Beatles, but almost every person can relate to emotions in their songs.

Yeah, I sometimes want to gouge my eyes out with spoons, so I can relate to their songs.

i dun geddit.
/plz halp.

Well he wrote them, sang the lead, and played the guitar.
(that's Noel singing)

Neato.

/We shared a vocation, he wrote songs, I drank.
//The music fits a period for me, period.

Bootysama: slimshaydee: Not the next Beatles, but almost every person can relate to emotions in their songs.

Wow a middle ground in the Oasis debate, I'm shocked!

YOOOUUUU ALLL EVRY-BOOOODDY!

Bootysama: /Lyrics do not make a band

And yet, maybe they should? Without amazing lyrics, you might as well just go see a symphony orchestra. The composition and technical skills are much higher. Oasis was a pretty alright band. No Beatles, certainly, but far from being a flavor-of-the-month crap-fest like so many people like to say. Actually, I think secretly everybody at least likes Oasis. They're just too scared of the ridicule to come out and say so.

There's nothing wrong with liking Oasis.

It's when you're an avid fan of the Baha Men that there is a problem.

AmericanMensan: It's when you're an avid fan of the Baha Men that there is a problem.

I dunno. The Baja Men raised what is perhaps the most important question of our times: Who did, when all is said and done, let the dogs out? Who? Who? Who? I think people would be a lot happier if they sat down for a second and reflected on this pressing issue.

Hah, Thanks for pointing out the uhh point Lusiphur

I don't have a problem with admitting how much I like them.
Their songs in a lot of respects hold the same resonance for me as the Beatles. Blashemy!

/was hoping that my initial comment got more bites.
//kinda late I guess.
///meant to post a link to dont look back in anger in post #2.

In light of recent events I want to pay my respects to Kevin Dubrow and Ace.

Cum on Feel the noise. (new window)

Now if you will excuse me I only have 26 minutes to listen to Oasis on Youtube before I go work out.

Lusiphur: And yet, maybe they should? Without amazing lyrics, you might as well just go see a symphony orchestra. The composition and technical skills are much higher.

There's a reason pop music is popular - people don't care if something is technically well-crafted, they just want it to sound good. Sometimes three chords is all it takes.

Just on merit for all worth-while UK bands, and for general principal, fark Oasis

/Well Duh!
//Ever looked a brit square in the teeth?

Number41: people don't care if something is technically well-crafted, they just want it to sound good. don't want to seem uncool to their friends.

FTFY. The entire music industry is built around having an elite cadre of early adopters that is idolized by the masses. It's not about the music or artist, as most fans forget about most artists (note: I did not say all in either part) within months. It's about having a large group of people watching a small group of people for all their social cues.

Lusiphur:

Well obviously it was Michael Vick, of course. Who else would let said dogs out? Who? Who? Who?

/Cue Cruella DeVille song in 3,2,1...

sseye: YOOOUUUU ALLL EVRY-BOOOODDY!

Win

Lusiphur: FTFY. The entire music industry is built around having an elite cadre of early adopters that is idolized by the masses.

If you took a person, sat them down individually, and played for them a good pop record no one had ever heard of before, they could identify whether or not they liked it without consulting their clique. Granted, a lot of that is based on current music trends, but that's just human culture; things go in and out of fashion and have been doing so forever. People listen to what sounds good to them, even if "what's good" has been trained towards a certain style.

Or, to put it another way, how many people have classical music as a guilty pleasure? How many people have cheesy pop music as a guilty pleasure? By your reasoning, people say they like MTV, but secretly crave Mozart, but that never seems to be the case.

I love Oasis AND the Beatles. It is possible, you know. I also like Devo, Rob Zombie and Coldplay. None of it is mutually-exclusive.

Farkers are the only people who still hold Oasis to Beatle-levels of comparison. If you have to go to the top to find someone to compare them to, perhaps its a sign?

My favorite band is better than your favorite band.

/Oasis isn't that bad.
//Can think of worse emo bands.
///Slashies on the wrists

Supergrass are the only brit-pop band to stand the test of time.

Gaz Coombs' muttonchops alone are 10 times as smashing as Oasis ever was.

Oasis are devout homosexuals.

In the States, AT&T gave us one more reason to campaign for their destruction.

I dunno, but when I lived in England it was fun to confuse the cashiers at the local grocerie store with my American accent.

They'd say , "what's that accent?"
and I'd say, what accent?

Yeah, I lived in England but...the rest is totally made up.
God, why does this website want me to run the following add-on ?

Sorry, forgot to add that I learned to roll my own cigs there in England. Saves money. And I have brought that 'art' over here in America.

For Britpop bands, Stone Roses win. For had-their-moment-in-the-sun in-the-90s band, Pavement trumps all. go ahead and waste time disagreeing.

Lusiphur: AmericanMensan: It's when you're an avid fan of the Baha Men that there is a problem.

I dunno. The Baja Men raised what is perhaps the most important question of our times: Who did, when all is said and done, let the dogs out? Who? Who? Who? I think people would be a lot happier if they sat down for a second and reflected on this pressing issue.

My hot tea. You made me burn myself with it.

\likes oasis
\\something's wrong..
///much better

Not to spur you all from your nonsensical Oasis thread (they suck),

but if my local liquor store meant anything, then Camel Lights and 211 would be the biggest sellers of anything anywhere.

/broke and addicted
//suck it Brits

Oasis were basically like a midway point between the Beatles and the Sex Pistols. They weren't trying to be the Beatles or a newer version of the Beatles. They had some good tunes, some bad tunes, and some in-between tunes. Nothing innovative though. Then they got Andy from Ride and Gem from Heavy Stereo in the band, and got a greater percentage of good tunes and in-between tunes.

/if Gem and Andy and Noel continued as a core trio as equal partners, they would do much better
/if Gem were in charge they would kick serious arse

In the States, AT&T gave us one more reason to campaign for their destruction.

Thankfully, they did a pretty good destruction job themselves.

/disliked Oasis because every poptart loved them
//dislikes Oasis because they suck

Dire: Oasis were basically like a midway point between the Beatles and the Sex Pistols. They weren't trying to be the Beatles or a newer version of the Beatles. They had some good tunes, some bad tunes, and some in-between tunes. Nothing innovative though. Then they got Andy from Ride and Gem from Heavy Stereo in the band, and got a greater percentage of good tunes and in-between tunes.

/if Gem and Andy and Noel continued as a core trio as equal partners, they would do much better
/if Gem were in charge they would kick serious arse

Nice analysis, though I have to say Noel was on fire in the mid 1990s. Their B-sides (back in the day when bands still did b-sides) were so good a few of them made it onto their best-of album over later singles.

BUT... I think the best few songs off the last couple of albums have been Liam's. Little James was shiat, yeah, but why the hell wasn't "Love Like A Bomb" a single? That was the best song on "...the Truth" by a long shot.

Lusiphur
Bootysama: /Lyrics do not make a band

And yet, maybe they should? Without amazing lyrics, you might as well just go see a symphony orchestra.

?????

I apologize but that really makes no sense at all to me.

ToobTopTuesdays: Hah, Thanks for pointing out the uhh point Lusiphur

I don't have a problem with admitting how much I like them.
Their songs in a lot of respects hold the same resonance for me as the Beatles. Blashemy!

/was hoping that my initial comment got more bites.
//kinda late I guess.
///meant to post a link to dont look back in anger in post #2.


Now if you will excuse me I only have 26 minutes to listen to Oasis on Youtube before I go work out.

This is one of the reasons I love Fark. I haven't thought about or listened to an Oasis CD in a dogs life. I don't 'love' them, but their music brings back some nice memories. Going on a short journey tonight, think I'll put some Oasis on my Mp3 player thing to pass the time.

Here is the news folks...put your farking "my band is better than your band" horse shiat away and listen to me please...

Oasis should have saved pop music but they failed...It's not our fault.

That crazy brit wrote some of the best songs of that decade. Their first two or three albums were awsome...the rest sucked...TX

/I can has Rotsky?

Oh, and one other thing, fark the farking Beatles, that was 50 years ago and fark anyone that sounds like them.

Predicted? More like caused.

Hardly surprising since the supermarkets are pushing beer at incredibly low prices (below cost). I just got eight cases - not because I intend to drink myself to death over the festive period but because beer keeps and I can save money by getting a stock in now which will last me for a long time.

I probably shouldn't admit this, but Oasis' first album - the one "Cigarettes & Alcohol" is on - is one of my all-time favorite albums. Terrific music from start to finish.

I hate to be one of those guys who says that X band was really good until they got popular and sold out, but in Oasis' case, it really is true. As soon as "Wonderwall" hit, they turned into a whiny bag of suck for the remainder of their career.

Disabled List: I hate to be one of those guys who says that X band was really good until they got popular and sold out, but in Oasis' case, it really is true. As soon as "Wonderwall" hit, they turned into a whiny bag of suck for the remainder of their career.

I'm sorry, but tunes like "The Hindu Times" and "Eyeball Tickler" are definitely not whiny nor do they suck. "Wonderwall" was a dreadful song.

Does anyone here like Kula Shaker's new album?