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(NYPost)   Two 14-year-olds playing around on a classmate's computer learn that making a death threat against the president in the morning will get you a visit by Homeland Security in the afternoon   (nypost.com) divider line 150
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2007-12-10 10:49:31 AM  
I am curious where these two kids went on the DHS website? I am on that site now and there is no e-mail link or anything like that.... WTF?

\not planning on sending my own email
\\just wanted to see where the link was
\\\maybe just an email to say hi!
 
2007-12-10 10:54:17 AM  
Quick, somebody take that Liberty picture up above and put up the "Patriot Missle Goes Where?!" caption!
 
2007-12-10 10:54:19 AM  
I'd never wish death on Bush.

It just seems weird when these (reasonable) laws are used to protect people who themselves use/promote torture, and start unprovoked wars, and publicly threaten other countries with WMDs...

The right to threaten the lives of others exists in this country, but that's a right reserved by our government alone.
 
2007-12-10 11:02:03 AM  
nimbers: ///I'm too beautiful to go to prison

At least you'll have your pick of whom to be a biatch for.
 
2007-12-10 11:03:28 AM  
GaryPDX: if you think they are not watching, think again.

/waves at the NSA


You're gonna have to refresh my memory because it was quite some time ago. But if I'm not mistaken, you were the one who got the Secret Service visit because of a FARK posting, right? Or was it somebody else?
 
2007-12-10 11:05:32 AM  
mdalli: Hmmm, the Secret Service paying a visit to kids who make death threats against the President constitutes a loss of liberty?

But only if he's a Republican. Only if he's the hated, terrible, evil, poopy-pants George W. Bush.

/proud 2-time Bush voter


If only there were a word to describe a contradictory statement. Like new and improved or jumbo shrimp...
 
2007-12-10 11:07:38 AM  
I sent a death threat to Bill Gates once. Got a visit from the FBI about 3 months later. I wonder why it took them so long.
 
2007-12-10 11:07:41 AM  
mdalli: Hmmm, the Secret Service paying a visit to kids who make death threats against the President constitutes a loss of liberty?

But only if he's a Republican. Only if he's the hated, terrible, evil, poopy-pants George W. Bush.

/proud 2-time Bush voter


Excellent troll, but the bold part is what tipped me off. 8/10
 
2007-12-10 11:09:08 AM  
Also I have first­n­ame*lastname[nospam-﹫-backwards]lia­m­g*com for some of the world's more lazy leaders. The best one was President (or King?) of Sweden. But I long forgot the passwords and names...
 
2007-12-10 11:10:18 AM  
always 11h17m: I sent a death threat to Bill Gates once. Got a visit from the FBI about 3 months later. I wonder why it took them so long.

Their PCs prolly froze.
 
2007-12-10 11:10:18 AM  
HA! LOSERS.
 
2007-12-10 11:11:26 AM  
GaryPDX: if you think they are not watching, think again.

/waves at the NSA


OMG, they are watching us like hawks, reading their own emails and all.
 
2007-12-10 11:12:26 AM  
Thats Right Youre Not From Texas: always 11h17m: I sent a death threat to Bill Gates once. Got a visit from the FBI about 3 months later. I wonder why it took them so long.

Their PCs prolly froze.


HA!

Some employee asked his colleague to do a traceroute on me and cc'ed me on that email. So I replied asking why, if he works at MSoft he couldn't figure out how to do a traceroute himself. Then, I added the traceroute to HIS ip. That may be what did it...
 
2007-12-10 11:14:27 AM  
always 11h17m: and cc'ed me on that email

That's your tax dollars at work right there. Even Smoky Bear knows not to let the bad guys know you're watching.
 
2007-12-10 11:16:56 AM  
mdalli: Hmmm, the Secret Service paying a visit to kids who make death threats against the President constitutes a loss of liberty?

If they were detained, then it does. It's legal loss of liberty, but a loss of liberty nonetheless.

mdalli: /proud 2-time Bush voter

Fair enough you got suckered into it twice, but to be proud of it? Denial isn't just a river in Africa.
 
2007-12-10 11:18:11 AM  
always 11h17m: Some employee

Thought you meant on of the feds.

/need coffee
 
2007-12-10 11:26:04 AM  
FTA: " Most of the school's 400 students were immediately stripped of their Internet privileges, and remain without them, angering many.

"It been down since Thursday," said the student, a 16-year-old junior.
"

I see English is not part of the current curriculum.
 
2007-12-10 11:32:46 AM  
is it just me, or isn't it illegal to make death threats on anyone? maybe i'm off track, but i don't think that this is necessarily a loss of liberty or anything like that. if i make a death threat against anyone, i'm pretty sure that there could be legal recourse.
 
2007-12-10 11:35:50 AM  
Back when I used to read Usenet, you could tell the start of the school year by all the nutty stuff that started showing up. New students would leave their terminals logged in when they left the computer lab and others would use them to post stuff to Usenet newsgroups, just like these two were trying. I don't remember any threats against the president, but there were plenty of offers to sell drugs, hook up for sex, etc.
 
2007-12-10 11:42:10 AM  
Talk about alliteration.

That article made my brain hurt. >
 
2007-12-10 11:45:24 AM  
Bragging Rights Folks!!!
Bragging Rights!

"Hey babe, yeah, well the NSA tried to 'take me out' yesterday. Yeah, big mix-up. They thought I was a 'threat to National Security' or something. Yeah, got that sorted out quick!"

"So, wanna fark?"

/Luck-EEEEE
 
2007-12-10 11:51:52 AM  
Note that if you read the article, you will see that these idiots actually emailed the threat directly to the Dept. of Homeland Security. The NSA had nothing to do with this.
 
2007-12-10 11:56:14 AM  
if you think they are not watching, think again.

/waves at the NSA

its called Mobius ( Dog will Hunt!), and its sucessor is Prometheus (Sun Screen)

/working for the government and paying too much attention to stuff i should not be.
//probably my last post, I will see you all in gitmo, or the denver airport correctional facility
///adjust the tinfoil straps tightly.
 
2007-12-10 11:57:06 AM  
So like on 9/11 all these kids were in the planes that hit the Twin Towers, too many kids to really explain by coincidence, right...and then the CIA realized that children were our future...once Cheney started an investigation into the World Children's Organization, it all came together...

BEGUN, THIS WAR HAS...
 
2007-12-10 12:09:33 PM  
brifar: we shouldnt make threats on the presidents life....we should make them on those inbred sons of biatches that put him in office...down with the south

"Inbred sons of biatches" is no way to refer to Supreme Court Justices.
 
2007-12-10 12:33:15 PM  
Thoguh: GaryPDX: if you think they are not watching, think again.

/waves at the NSA

You're gonna have to refresh my memory because it was quite some time ago. But if I'm not mistaken, you were the one who got the Secret Service visit because of a FARK posting, right? Or was it somebody else?


Not me...:) I want one of those like I want a tax audit.
 
2007-12-10 12:38:26 PM  
Back when I was 14 if you wanted to send a death threat to the president you had to write it on a piece of paper, put it in an addressed envelope, attach a little sticker called a stamp, drop it in a mailbox and he would get it a few days later.

Things are so much easier with technology now.
 
2007-12-10 12:42:04 PM  
SlappyKincaid: i know they monitor all email correspondence to government channels for death threats but i wonder about public forums, like fark?

if I were to issue a death threat on here and assuming no farker alerted the government to this, i wonder if it would go unnoticed...


Yeah..not so much.

Just do a search on fark and see that a year or so ago, some farker got a visit from the SS for posting an INDIRECT threat against the prez.

I'm just waiting for some moran to screw up and threaten the prez.


Oh, waves and beers for the NSA, FBI and no-named agency watching us right now. As much crap as we give them and the amount of idiots that work for them, they probably have given us lots of material on fark to laugh at over the years.

And also probably have stopped a few idiots from blowing things up since 9/11 (but all that's classified....shhhhhhhhh)
 
2007-12-10 12:54:47 PM  
corn-bread: I suspect that this was seized upon as an opportunity to demonstrate force and send a message to the sheep that the government is watching.

Oh please. The Secret Service is obligated to follow up on every threat against the President and they have been doing it for years.

I worked for a university during most of the Clinton administration and we'd get visits from the Secret Service four or five times a semester. You cannot threaten the President's life, plain and simple.

There are no "sheep" here - just a bunch of clueless idiots.
 
2007-12-10 12:55:40 PM  
Phaid: Note that if you read the article, you will see that these idiots actually emailed the threat directly to the Dept. of Homeland Security. The NSA had nothing to do with this.

I believe the NSA is now under the auspices of DHS
 
2007-12-10 12:59:25 PM  
Bschott007: SlappyKincaid: i know they monitor all email correspondence to government channels for death threats but i wonder about public forums, like fark?

if I were to issue a death threat on here and assuming no farker alerted the government to this, i wonder if it would go unnoticed...

Yeah..not so much.

Just do a search on fark and see that a year or so ago, some farker got a visit from the SS for posting an INDIRECT threat against the prez.

I'm just waiting for some moran to screw up and threaten the prez.


Oh, waves and beers for the NSA, FBI and no-named agency watching us right now. As much crap as we give them and the amount of idiots that work for them, they probably have given us lots of material on fark to laugh at over the years.

And also probably have stopped a few idiots from blowing things up since 9/11 (but all that's classified....shhhhhhhhh)



Link?
 
2007-12-10 01:01:22 PM  
One time, I met Bill Clinton on Robston Street in Vancouver (this was after his term as president). As I shook his hand, the only thing I could think of was "I'm close enough to punch him in the face". Sometimes I wonder how much different my life would now be if I would have done that.
 
2007-12-10 01:05:36 PM  
SanDamiano: I believe the NSA is now under the auspices of DHS

Department of Defense. DHS focuses mainly on domestic work, so the NSA is involved only if communication is intercepted between someone in the US and a foreign entity.

People up in here seem to be confusing the NSA with the FBI, which has jurisdiction over domestic matters.
 
2007-12-10 01:17:46 PM  
nashBridges: SanDamiano: I believe the NSA is now under the auspices of DHS

Department of Defense. DHS focuses mainly on domestic work, so the NSA is involved only if communication is intercepted between someone in the US and a foreign entity.

People up in here seem to be confusing the NSA with the FBI, which has jurisdiction over domestic matters.


That line got blurred beyond recognition with Patriot Act II.
 
2007-12-10 01:18:12 PM  
Hold on a second - the US Secret Service has to investigate all threats on the President's life? If that is the case, it follows that if many, many more people were to do this, that Secret Service resources would become strained, and with so many agents out in the field making housecalls on mischeivous teenagers, thinning of the staffing levels surrounding the President himself might just allow someone to actually get the job done.

Just sayin'.
 
2007-12-10 01:22:57 PM  
GaryPDX: That line got blurred beyond recognition with Patriot Act II.

Yeah, but the agency work is still pretty clear. If you get boned by domestic surveillance, it's most likely coming through the FBI.
 
2007-12-10 01:25:46 PM  
Just gotta remember, folks, the Secret Service is a group of people who are required to have NO (none, zilch, nada, bupkiss, goose-egg, blank, zero, less-than, Paris Hilton's IQ) sense of humor.

Interviewer: Have you ever laughed at a joke at any time in your life?

Prospective Agent: Well, when I was 16 I sort of chuckled once during "Monty Python and the Holy Grail".

Interviewer: I'm sorry, but you just won't do.

They are also required to investigate every single threat to the president, perceived serious or not.

Oh, and as an added bonus, those two kids now get to be followed around by the Secret Service (or secondary agency, like the State Police) every time the President (Any President!) comes to that part of the country.

It's just what they do.
 
2007-12-10 01:33:23 PM  
malibupetey
The only persons who have the opportunity, intent and capability to assassinate world leaders are those most closely connected to them. The plotters engage patsies (fall-guys) to do the dirty work and take the blame. The fall-guys are then assassinated quickly to attempt to cover-up the involvement of the inner circle.

Study history, study past assassinations and attempts, come to your own educated conclusions.


John Wilkes Booth
Lee Harvey Oswald
Squeaky Fromme
John Hinckley

Okay, history says you're either a conspiracy idiot, or just plain idiot, but definitely some sort of idiot.
 
2007-12-10 02:03:25 PM  
So I suppose you can't say anything you like about the president. A drunk man can shout at his girlfriend, "I'll kill you," and no one bats an eyelash... yet if you say you're going to kill the president, they nail your butt to the wall. It does matter who you are as to whether or not you matter.

Honestly, anyone who was really going to do it wouldn't tell anyone about it before hand. They wouldn't want anyone to have a chance to stop them. They certainly wouldn't use a homeland security site to send the warning. The fact that anyone was dumb enough to do that reveals that it had to be a joke (albeit not a funny one).

Bush will be taken down by the cruel winds of time and public opinion... in about 30-40 years, when all the shiat he did comes to light (and more and more of the bills come due... to people who weren't able to vote against the crap they're being billed for).
 
2007-12-10 02:15:53 PM  
Death threats. Now honestly, what is that? Do they give a Nobel Prize for chemistry threats?
 
2007-12-10 02:41:12 PM  
ignite ice: so how did they figure out it was these two dumbasses, and not the kid to whom the computer belonged?

That's a Classified State secret.

Well, basically, it went down like this:

SS: Son, did you make this threat?
Kid: Nope
SS: *to each other* What about those two punks over there?
SS: Good call.
SS: Hey, you two punks over there. Why don't you have a seat over there...

No way. Freshmen can't keep secrets. Seniors can't even keep secrets. It was more like this:

SS: Son, did you make this threat?
Kid1: Nope
Kid2 down the hall: DUDE!! Did you hear what I did to Kid1??!! BWAHAHA!!! We like totally sent a death email to The Man on his computer!!!
Kid3: No WAY!! Dude, man! I bet he's like gonna have the Marines at his house or something, man!
SS: *to each other* What about those two punks over there?
SS: Good call.
SS: Hey, you two punks over there. Why don't you have a seat over there...
 
2007-12-10 02:41:47 PM  
Maybe if the president could be tried in the International Criminal Court for starting a war of aggression against Iraq, people wouldn't need to threaten vigilante justice against him.
 
2007-12-10 03:32:18 PM  
Damn, I've been threatening the president since at least 1990. I must be doing it wrong.

/note to self: Continue doing it wrong.
 
2007-12-10 05:05:04 PM  
corn-bread: I suspect that this was seized upon as an opportunity to demonstrate force and send a message to the sheep that the government is watching.

Or checking their email.
 
2007-12-10 06:14:40 PM  
John Wilkes Booth - Booth attended Lincoln's second inauguration on March 4, 1865, as the invited guest of his secret fiancée Lucy Hale, the daughter of John P. Hale, soon to be United States Ambassador to Spain.

Lee Harvey Oswald - A patsy (Oswalds own words) Shot by Jack Ruby. "Ruby begged [Earl] Warren several times to take him to Washington D.C., because he feared for his life and those of his family members, claiming among other things that "a whole new form of government is going to take over this country, and I know I won't live to see you another time."

Squeaky Fromme - Never got off a shot, nor was there a round in the chamber. No opportunity.

John Hinckley - Hinckley is the son of one of George H.W. Bush's political and financial supporters in his 1980 presidential primary campaign against Ronald Reagan; John Hinckley Jr.'s older brother, Scott Hinckley, and Vice President Bush's son Neil Bush had a dinner appointment scheduled for the next day.

I'll repeat myself: the only persons who have the opportunity, intent and capability to assassinate world leaders are those most closely connected to them. The plotters engage patsies (fall-guys) to do the dirty work and take the blame. The fall-guys are then assassinated quickly to attempt to cover-up the involvement of the inner circle.

Study history, study past assassinations and attempts, come to your own educated conclusions.
 
2007-12-10 07:00:45 PM  
cerberus9 2007-12-10 01:01:22 PM
One time, I met Bill Clinton on Robston Street in Vancouver (this was after his term as president). As I shook his hand, the only thing I could think of was "I'm close enough to punch him in the face". Sometimes I wonder how much different my life would now be if I would have done that.


It would be VERY different. But you may have made some $$$$$$$ for guest appearances on radio and television after you got out of federal prison.

/scratches chin thinking
//$$$$$
///Nah, I don't have that much energy
 
2007-12-10 08:35:46 PM  
haplo53: so how did they figure out it was these two dumbasses, and not the kid to whom the computer belonged?

Most likely the teacher saw these two "Precious Snowflakes" whispering and and giggling like little fudgepackers to each other about the time the Secret Service agent told them it happened.

Not that the Agents needed the teacher.. the smell coming from these moran's pants when the Secret Service showed up would have been a dead give away.
Also I would not be surprised if these two don't already have a history of such stupidity.

I know me and my friends did.
 
2007-12-11 05:04:07 AM  
thesraid: Hold on a minute. How the hell does anyone think this is justified? A few kids send a joke e-mail to the American President and the next thing Government Agents are breaking down the door?
Ok fair enough they check it out, but when they arrived in a high school and see two 14 year old kids playing (yes PLAYING) with a computer they haul them off! Are these agents not intelligent enough to realise this was a joke?

Talk about overkill. Paranoid idiocy.


IT IS ILLEGAL TO THREATEN THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. What part of that don't you understand??? I think they were lucky they didn't get in REAL trouble!
 
2007-12-11 05:51:29 AM  
hmmmm....
I wonder what skill the president would use if this were an RPG...
 
2007-12-11 09:38:03 PM  
The President can threaten the entire world with nuclear annihilation (you know, like he did two weeks ago), but we can't reciprocate. I have sent over 300 pointed, truthful, and broadly insulting emails to W--and it's good to know I haven't crossed the line. By the way George and Dick--if you're reading this, go fark yourselves.
 
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