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(STLToday)   40% of pollsters say 30% cell phone usage is making taking polls difficult 84% of the time. 70% agree that poll participation is down 20%. Margin of error may be as high as 50%. The chance that they will call during dinner still 100%   (stltoday.com) divider line 59
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2007-12-08 01:27:23 PM
60% of the time, it works every time
 
2007-12-08 01:58:24 PM
Ron Paul

Ron Paul

Ron Paul


Now let's see if my invocation has successfully summoned the Paul supporters...
 
2007-12-08 01:58:41 PM
Headline is 78.3% pure win, ±4%.
 
2007-12-08 01:59:12 PM
Well then, you could always use other methods than phone polling.
 
2007-12-08 01:59:13 PM
And, of course, 66.67% of statistics are complete bullshiat
 
2007-12-08 02:00:28 PM
Headline made my head hurt, but so true....+1 for subby
 
2007-12-08 02:01:04 PM
I haven't had a home phone in six or seven years. It's great not getting these calls.

The only downside is my house alarm isn't hooked up to anything. But hell, if a burglar hangs around with the siren blaring, he deserves my shiat.
 
2007-12-08 02:01:31 PM
Fluid: Well then, you could always use other methods than phone polling.

I hear internet polling is very accurate and hard to fake.

/mister splashypants
 
2007-12-08 02:01:38 PM
84% of the time, ±50% = 134% of the time.

Suck it, Einstein.
 
2007-12-08 02:01:40 PM
Suck it pollsters. There is only one poll I'm participating in, and that is on election day.
 
2007-12-08 02:02:00 PM
+100% of pure headline laugh.
 
2007-12-08 02:02:50 PM
That's because polling is bullshiat.
 
2007-12-08 02:02:50 PM
I look forward to the panoply of responses that will litter this thread.
 
2007-12-08 02:05:26 PM
dear submitter
please help me with the "ask marilyn vos savant" brain teasers in the "parade" section of the sunday paper.
 
2007-12-08 02:06:55 PM
Statistics always gave me a headache.
 
2007-12-08 02:08:10 PM
CruJones: The only downside is my house alarm isn't hooked up to anything. But hell, if a burglar hangs around with the siren blaring, he deserves my shiat.

Totally offtopic, but when we switched over to Vonage, our home alarm was also disconnected. For a fee ($100?), they replaced our box with a system that was cellular based, so our system now makes a cell phone call to the home system.

Problem solved.
 
2007-12-08 02:08:16 PM
Land line is for MY convenience, not surveys,
telemarketing, or collectors looking for
Whore-hey Sandoval. I leave the ringer off.
Anybody important has my cell number.
 
2007-12-08 02:09:02 PM
Too long, didn't read.
 
2007-12-08 02:11:29 PM
40% of pollsters say 30% cell phone usage is making taking polls difficult 84% of the time. 70% agree that poll participation is down 20%. Margin of error may be as high as 50%. The chance that they will call during dinner still 100%

If that headline doesn't deserve a hearty "Fark you, Frank!" then I don't know what does.
 
2007-12-08 02:13:41 PM
Mister Awesome: 60% of the time, it works every time

I came here just for that quote. Thank you.
 
2007-12-08 02:14:29 PM
I know, it's got to be tough when the people that haven't wanted to deal with you for three decades finally are able to block you out more effectively.
 
2007-12-08 02:16:52 PM
I was told there would be no math...
 
2007-12-08 02:17:54 PM
Everyone knows that 87.365% of statistics are pulled out of my ass.
 
2007-12-08 02:19:32 PM
These should help:

i15.photobucket.com
 
2007-12-08 02:20:54 PM
I should be writing a paper on Research Methods in Political Science right now, so I am really getting a kick out of some of these replies...
 
2007-12-08 02:25:40 PM
OK, how about we crunch the numbers?

(40 - 30) + (84 x 70) / (20 x .50)+ 100

Everybody got that?
 
2007-12-08 02:25:41 PM
...did somebody summon me?
 
2007-12-08 02:29:44 PM
KickahaOta: Headline is 78.3% pure win, ±4%.

You forgot the "19 times out of 20"
 
2007-12-08 02:36:00 PM
Now, before I begin the lesson, will those of you who are playing in the match this afternoon move your clothes down onto the lower peg immediately after lunch, before you write your letter home, if you're not getting your hair cut, unless you've got a younger brother who is going out this weekend as the guest of another boy, in which case, collect his note before lunch, put it in your letter after you've had your hair cut, and make sure he moves your clothes down onto the lower peg for you.
 
2007-12-08 02:40:44 PM
Ten out of ten people enjoy taking polls.
 
2007-12-08 02:41:42 PM
Doctors say that Nordberg has a 50 - 50 chance of living, though there's only a 10 percent chance of that.
 
2007-12-08 02:48:28 PM
Thanks for the home alarm advice copper1861.

That makes more sense than a land line, which a burglar could easily cut.
 
2007-12-08 02:51:42 PM
Aexia: Now let's see if my invocation has successfully summoned the Paul supporters...

Woooh Ron Paul

Think of the people you know who own land lines. Are they more or less likely than everyone else you know to get information from the internet? Do they represent you and people you know well? This is the pool pollsters get their data from.

Pollsters say they take all that into account. I guess in one month we'll see.


Biggy Smalls Biggy Smalls Biggy Smalls
 
2007-12-08 02:51:50 PM
Fluid: Well then, you could always use other methods than phone polling.

but change frightens me. that's why i still ride a horse-drawn carriage.
 
2007-12-08 02:53:06 PM
I got yer poll right here.
 
2007-12-08 02:54:27 PM
"I don't do polls." Click!
"I don't give money over the phone." Click!
"You [wake me from a nap / interrupt dinner] and you actually expect me to vote for [you / your candidate]?" Click!
"This call is illegal. I'm reporting you to the FTC." Click!

That should about cover it.
 
2007-12-08 02:57:38 PM
Naturally this has an impact on the Ron Paul number. You don't answer as many pollsters if you don't have a fixed address.
 
2007-12-08 03:01:21 PM
Fifty percent of the population have a below average understanding of statistics.
 
2007-12-08 03:03:33 PM
Hrm, polling and statistical analysis is hard work. There are incompetent people, and the job (like most) can be done wrong... questions can be leading/misleading, there can be polling bias (intentional or unintentional), non-representative samples... etc... but the reality is that generally speaking, a well constructed poll or survey will accurately measure what it intends to measure.
 
2007-12-08 03:04:59 PM
Someone say ron paul?
 
2007-12-08 03:11:24 PM
bemoaned "the panoply of technologies that allow people to be masters of their own environment" and avoid pollster calls.

That line just makes me want to shoot someone.
 
2007-12-08 03:14:34 PM
64% of the world's statistics are made up right there on the spot
82.4% of people believe them whether they're accurate statistics or not
I don't know what you believe, but I do know there's no doubt
I need another double shot of something 90 proof, I got too much to think about
 
2007-12-08 03:34:31 PM
You know who else didn't listen to polls?

dese.mo.gov
 
2007-12-08 04:19:42 PM
Polling is bullshiat!

Vote with your principles, don't try and figure out who is going to win so you can vote for them. That's just asinine.
 
2007-12-08 04:23:18 PM
75+% of my missed calls occur when I'm peeing. It's like my friends have a GPS on the General down there.
 
2007-12-08 04:24:42 PM
But now how will the campaign advisors be able to know what positions are working for their candidate? Oh the horror! Politicians may soon be forced to actually develop their own ideas, rather than following the polls!

/Answers the phone in French
//Telemarketers/pollsters rarely speak french, as they're primarily out-of country.
///Profit?
 
2007-12-08 04:28:37 PM
#1. Most people have caller id.
#2. Most people won't answer calls from id's they don't know.
#3. Most people won't answer the phone at dinnertime.
#4. Most people will hang up on a polling phone call.
#5. Only total idiots will actually talk to pollsters.

This is why polls always show liberals and liberal issues leading.
 
2007-12-08 04:29:27 PM
I used to work for a polling company. Phone surveys are BS, the respondents are a certain type of people, and it is only a small segment of the population that gts surveyed. These same people get surveyed over, and over again. It is because their phone prefix matches areas that are representative of the rest of the country. Things is that since only people in these areas get surveyed (and very frequently) the "average" people" soon thin out and you end up with the kind of people that are always willing to do a survey, they do not represent the gen pop. Also, the data tends to get "massaged" heavily afterward.

The thing they are good for is trends, they are very good at that if the same survey is done year after year.

The company I worked for was Environics, a Canadian company that does basically all the surveys that Statistics Canada does
 
2007-12-08 04:32:48 PM
Correction: Should be "a Canadian company that does basically all the surveys that Statistics Canada does not do."
 
2007-12-08 04:33:50 PM
Answering polls and taking IQ tests are two activities that are best left to those people who are not smart enough to avoid engaging in them.
 
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