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(Some Guy)   In an effort to reduce crime, police are placing yellow tags on cars in shopping centers that have visible packages inside. Now potential thieves no longer have to look in every car - just the ones tagged by police   ( rockdalecitizen.com) divider line
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7295 clicks; posted to Main » on 07 Dec 2007 at 2:34 PM (9 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2007-12-07 09:00:32 AM  
come on, that can't be serious. and if it is, did no one in the entire chain of decision-making even once think about what they were doing?
 
2007-12-07 09:08:46 AM  
kingMountain: come on, that can't be serious. and if it is, did no one in the entire chain of decision-making even once think about what they were doing?

No, they didn't. And remember, kids, in some jurisdictions (like San Diego county), the cops are checking for unlocked car doors. And they just might find that pipe you accidentally left out in your car.

Can you say warrantless search? I knew you could.

The cops are NOT your friends.
 
2007-12-07 09:21:40 AM  
Quite frankly, if you're stupid enough to leave stuff in the car that is visible to passers-by this time of year, you deserve to have your car broken into.
 
2007-12-07 09:48:35 AM  
AuntofDogface: Quite frankly, if you're stupid enough to leave stuff in the car that is visible to passers-by this time of year, you deserve to have your car broken into.

A little late coming but...
Agreed, but it is not the job of the police to bring attention to the fact that you have visible packages in your car.

I also agree with dj_bigbird, what is to stop a cop from looking around inside your car to find something that will then be labeled as "in public view" to get around the necessity of a search warrant.

/not a cop hater but suspicious of their actions.
 
2007-12-07 11:07:29 AM  
IndyMBA: I also agree with dj_bigbird, what is to stop a cop from looking around inside your car to find something that will then be labeled as "in public view" to get around the necessity of a search warrant.

Well, I suppose the answer is LOCK YOUR CAR DOORS MORANS!

Also, cars are often subject to the exigent circumstances exemption given that they can drive away... provided probable cause can be articulated. In other words, don't use your car as a locker for your weed unless you WANT to go to jail.

That or don't be a pothead in the first place... but who am I kidding? You can't swing a sack of doorknobs without hitting ten stoners in Farkland (some of them may even notice they've been hit with a sack of doorknobs, so I don't recommend this action.)
 
2007-12-07 11:09:16 AM  
When I was a consultant and always travelling, I used to get so pissed at the condo office for leaving messages and flyers on my door when I was away. They somehow failed to grasp the concept that it was like broadcasting "Nobody's Home!" It was to our mutual benefit for them to knock it off.
 
2007-12-07 11:22:00 AM  
Diogenes: When I was a consultant and always travelling, I used to get so pissed at the condo office for leaving messages and flyers on my door when I was away. They somehow failed to grasp the concept that it was like broadcasting "Nobody's Home!" It was to our mutual benefit for them to knock it off.

Agreed. I travel frequently as well and I'm always livid to discover Chinese take out menus, telephone books (which btw Yellow Book, I'VE NEVER USED SINCE THE INVENTION OF THE farkING INTERNET), and my apartment complexes idiotic monthly "newsletter".

If you want to send me something, stick that shiat in the mail.
 
2007-12-07 11:31:56 AM  
colovion: Well, I suppose the answer is LOCK YOUR CAR DOORS MORANS!

Also, cars are often subject to the exigent circumstances exemption given that they can drive away... provided probable cause can be articulated. In other words, don't use your car as a locker for your weed unless you WANT to go to jail.

That or don't be a pothead in the first place... but who am I kidding? You can't swing a sack of doorknobs without hitting ten stoners in Farkland (some of them may even notice they've been hit with a sack of doorknobs, so I don't recommend this action.)


Agreed. If a cop can provide probable cause for a search (given exigent contingencies) then the vehicle owner probably deserves to be caught; especially if they leave their doors unlocked with paraphernalia or drugs in plain view. I have an issue with what could happen in dj_bigbird's example. As I am not a stoner I would have nothing to fear from a cop searching my car. I, however, do not submit to warrantless searchs though in defense of my 4th Amendment Rights. Delineate your probable cause, obtain a warrant, and then you may search.

/Traditional conservative values (limited government, personal freedoms, fiscal responsibility, etc...); unlike the current strain of conservatism (too much religious influence, no fiscal responsibility, take personal freedoms to fight turrists, etc...).
 
2007-12-07 11:32:34 AM  
This reminds me of the genius plan that some town put in where the cops pulled over drivers for being good drivers and rewarded them.
 
2007-12-07 11:33:02 AM  
colovion:

No, the point is that the cops shouldn't be arbitrarily snooping in ANYONE's car for ANY reason. Even if they're just doing "crime prevention" by looking for gifts in people's cars.

Warrantless searches, no matter the guise or reason are NEVER acceptable.
 
2007-12-07 11:36:35 AM  
tbn0.google.com

Hey, no fair peeking.
 
2007-12-07 12:33:00 PM  
dj_bigbird: Warrantless searches, no matter the guise or reason are NEVER acceptable.

Well, acceptable or not in your opinion, warrantless searches ARE legal under certain circumstances. Remember, the word "unreasonable" in the 4th Amendment allows for "reasonable" searches without warrants (such as "Hey, that guy who just shot someone ran into that house, I'm going to go search it now and find him.")

Now if a cop walks by your car an sees a joint in plain sight you're stupid because you've just given them probable cause. If they find your doors unlocked, go to lock them and "find" a joint under your car seat inside of a cup... you have a pretty good "illegal search" claim as very few people (especially judges) would find such a search "reasonable."
 
2007-12-07 02:32:34 PM  
IndyMBA: A little late coming but...
Agreed, but it is not the job of the police to bring attention to the fact that you have visible packages in your car.


Actually, crime prevention is exactly the job of the police.

I also agree with dj_bigbird, what is to stop a cop from looking around inside your car to find something that will then be labeled as "in public view" to get around the necessity of a search warrant.

/not a cop hater but suspicious of their actions.


Cops can't legally enter your car even if the door is unlocked. However, if they look through the window and see something in plain view, it's fair game. In this case though, I doubt the cops are concerned about some kid's pot pipe.
 
2007-12-07 02:40:06 PM  
It's called a trunk. You put shiat in there.

Get a brain, morans!
 
2007-12-07 02:40:13 PM  
Perhaps next time they can use a great big sign with "FREE STUFF INSIDE" written on it in big red letters. Absolutely nothing could possibly go wrong with this idea.
 
2007-12-07 02:40:24 PM  
Visible packages inside shopping centers? Unpossible!
 
2007-12-07 02:42:03 PM  
CruiserTwelve: Cops can't legally enter your car even if the door is unlocked. However, if they look through the window and see plant something in plain view, it's fair game.

FTFY
 
2007-12-07 02:42:19 PM  
that's just stupid. thank you stupid tag.
 
2007-12-07 02:42:30 PM  
FTA "We want the citizens to know that we are out in the community and this program not only lets people know officers are patrolling an area, but reminds people to secure their packages."

I don't need to be reminded to secure my package
 
2007-12-07 02:43:11 PM  
Holy Cripes! I really thought the subby was goofing around or twisting the words of the story. I am stunned (Stunned I say) That he/she is not!
 
2007-12-07 02:43:22 PM  
If TFA, the pic is a Police Explorer... ie jackbooted thug in training.

I've met a few of these guys.. most of them have bigger power trips running than the cops they are riding with....

whole thing is stupid.

/dares someone to test the door on my car.
//Don't tase me, bro!
 
2007-12-07 02:43:45 PM  
Millions_Knives: It's called a trunk. You put shiat in there.

Get a brain, morans!


Coca-cola, keyboard, you owe me... etc...
 
2007-12-07 02:44:05 PM  
Millions_Knives: It's called a trunk. You put shiat in there.


Shiat goes where?

i13.tinypic.com
 
2007-12-07 02:44:13 PM  
dj_bigbird: kingMountain: And remember, kids, in some jurisdictions (like San Diego county), the cops are checking for unlocked car doors.

I've heard about cops, upon seeing a car with keys in the ignition, opening the door and putting the keys under the seat and then LOCKING the doors.
 
2007-12-07 02:44:13 PM  
Wait, if they bust into your unlocked car for a citizenship test or whatever the hell the excuse is, they cant possibly use evidence gathered in court can they?
 
2007-12-07 02:45:15 PM  
Here's an interesting, similar situation:

A friend of mine came home late one night and went into his house. He believe he hit the button to close the garage door, but for whatever reason (cat ran across the safety sensor beam?), the door did not close. The police drove by around 4:30am, saw the garage door open, walked into his garage and left a "safety warning" green tag on his cube, suggesting he be more careful about securing him premesis.

Is it just me, or is that kind of creepy? How much did the police look around inthis random, open garage when they left the ticket, too? I mean, I would appreciate the heads up and all, but still...
 
2007-12-07 02:45:59 PM  
Millions_Knives: It's called a trunk. You put shiat in there.

Get a brain, morans!


show me the trunk on my car:
www.roxtaronline.com
yes, i have a cover for things in the back, and i use it most of the time. but not every car is a sedan with a trunk.
 
2007-12-07 02:46:15 PM  
They used to do this in my little town. Easton, MD.(stupid yellow tickets even listed what was in view)


Made no sense to anyone.

/set off neighbors car alarm
 
2007-12-07 02:47:20 PM  
visable - vizable

RTFY
 
2007-12-07 02:47:27 PM  
Kar98: Millions_Knives: It's called a trunk. You put shiat in there.


Shiat goes where?


In your smugglers compartment? :)
 
2007-12-07 02:47:46 PM  
They can note down their registration and send them a warning letter by post instead.

/stupid yellow ticket program
 
2007-12-07 02:47:52 PM  
colovion: IndyMBA: I also agree with dj_bigbird, what is to stop a cop from looking around inside your car to find something that will then be labeled as "in public view" to get around the necessity of a search warrant.

Well, I suppose the answer is LOCK YOUR CAR DOORS MORANS!

I bet you meant to say...Morons


 
2007-12-07 02:48:07 PM  
Subby:

In an effort to reduce crime, police are placing yellow tags on cars in shopping centers that have visable packages inside.

And you think this is inadvisible?
 
2007-12-07 02:48:38 PM  
. . . that's some fine police work there, lou . . . .
 
2007-12-07 02:48:43 PM  
Cops do not prevent crime - their job is to investigate a crime after it happens. Just ask some woman who's ex is coming over to do bodily harm ... they can't do anything until it happens or >is
 
2007-12-07 02:49:37 PM  
So that bong shifter was a bad idea?
 
2007-12-07 02:49:43 PM  
Russ1642: I've heard about cops, upon seeing a car with keys in the ignition, opening the door and putting the keys under the seat and then LOCKING the doors.

I've heard about cops that look for unlocked car doors, take the cars for joy rides, and then get the car back just in time before the owner comes back.

/I swear, really
//I'm not just saying what happens in Ferris Beuler
///You guys are full of it
 
2007-12-07 02:49:45 PM  
colovion: Now if a cop walks by your car an sees a joint in plain sight you're stupid because you've just given them probable cause. If they find your doors unlocked...

... they should keep walking, because they weren't supposed to be tugging at my door handles to begin with.
=Smidge=
 
2007-12-07 02:50:04 PM  
There was an article about this on Fark last year, only it was being tried in London, IIRC.
 
2007-12-07 02:50:19 PM  
HolyGeekboy: ... a "safety warning" green tag on his cube,

Of course I meant CAR, I'm sitting in a cube. :)
 
2007-12-07 02:50:27 PM  
Hmmm, some additional car tag ideas:

Visible marijuana = green tag
Fellatio in progress = red tag
Poor parking ability = blue tag
Female child left in car = pink tag
Male child left in car = light blue tag

Ding, fries are done, ding, fries are done.
 
2007-12-07 02:51:10 PM  
Millions_Knives: It's called a trunk. You put shiat in there.

Get a brain, morans!


Crap, been away for a little bit, is the spelling of Moran intentional and some new farkism? if so, all apologies
 
2007-12-07 02:51:37 PM  
CruiserTwelve: Agreed, but it is not the job of the police to bring attention to the fact that you have visible packages in your car.

Having packages in your car is not a crime. Marking a car that has packages simply makes it easier for a criminal, looking for a car with packages, to commit a crime.
 
2007-12-07 02:51:40 PM  
Well, I suppose the answer is LOCK YOUR CAR DOORS MORANS!
[quote/]

The problem with this however, is that if a thief sees or suspects that there is something in the car he wants, he will smash the window to get to it.

True story.

Fort Campbell KY 1998.
Divarty parking lot.

Someone had a completely cleaned out car, nothing in it.

Except they left a quarter on the dash when they cleaned it.

Some farkhead smashed the window and took the quarter.

Similar incidents occured with regularity.

I left nothing in my car to steal and left the door unlocked.

I never had any broken windows which was rare.
 
2007-12-07 02:52:09 PM  
shiat crackers you all need to be rollin' hardcore county like me:

www.autobytel.com


/daddy don't need no F150 on his farm
 
2007-12-07 02:52:49 PM  
Witchking: Crap, been away for a little bit, is the spelling of Moran intentional and some new farkism? if so, all apologies

"moran" has been around since before your account creation date... you have no excuse.
 
2007-12-07 02:53:02 PM  
good to see their tax dollars going to good use. the "present left in your car where thieves can see it" police to the rescue.

whoever decided that marking the cars with bright yellow pieces of paper is a douche.
 
2007-12-07 02:55:03 PM  
The_Original_Roxtar: "moran" has been around since before your account creation date... you have no excuse.

That doesn't make sense.
 
2007-12-07 02:55:26 PM  
Quite frankly, if you're stupid enough to leave stuff in the car that is visible to passers-by this time of year, you deserve to have your car broken into.

Quite frankly, if you think its a given your car will get broken into if anything is visible inside it, you're a moron for not moving to a better neighborhood.
 
2007-12-07 02:55:26 PM  
I always tie my packages to my roof rack so the thieves don't have to bust up the car to steal them.
 
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