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2007-12-04 01:15:43 PM
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I'm Popeye, the sailor-man!
 
2007-12-04 01:30:19 PM
Ha, I was thinking about that last night. Everything worked out pretty smooth for that guy.
 
2007-12-04 01:46:44 PM
I wish he'd develop a power that would render him incapable of wearing clothing.
 
2007-12-04 01:48:22 PM
I saw him on Jimmy Kimmel - seems like a pretty likeable guy who plays a really, really good character.
 
2007-12-04 01:48:29 PM
awfulperson: I wish he'd develop a power that would render him incapable of wearing clothing.

Gawd. Mindbleach. Please. Now ;)
 
2007-12-04 01:58:54 PM
awfulperson: I wish he'd develop a power that would render him incapable of wearing clothing.

I already have that power - I call booze.
 
2007-12-04 02:00:26 PM
I call IT booze...

It apparently works on other things too, like my inability to type good...well....erm...yeah.
 
2007-12-04 02:02:44 PM
I would have to concur with my wife's sentiments last night. Season 2 started out way too slowly with too many plot simalarities to the first season. When the action picked up it seemed like they tried to cram too much into the few episodes they had left.

"Season 3 better kick all kinds of ass...or else I'll have to just keep watching."
 
2007-12-04 02:09:58 PM
Fired Internet Spock finds your devotion to Sylar illogical.

www.alienated.net
 
2007-12-04 02:12:56 PM
Is it wrong that I started humming the Popeye the Sailor theme softly to myself at the end of the last episode of Heroes?

/I'm Sylar the Killer-Man
//I'm Sylar the Killer-Man
///The scene I will finish
////Cause I grabs me spinach
//I'm Sylar the Killer-Man!
 
2007-12-04 02:17:22 PM
SPOILERS BELOW (though if you are in this thread the day after the finale and have not watched, you get what you deserve)...


So will Adam go into some sort of catatonic state soon? I mean, surely, just because he can't be killed, he needs air to live. Right? Maybe he will "Die" until the casket is opened up again and then he will come back, ala Jason Vorhees via some lightning bolt or something.

Also, I like how at the end of the season it appears people are dead again. Hmmmm...I would be willing to bet neither of the people you think might be dead from last night will stay that way. Just like last finale. There is a pattern here.
 
2007-12-04 02:22:15 PM
srhp29: SPOILERS BELOW (though if you are in this thread the day after the finale and have not watched, you get what you deserve)...


So will Adam go into some sort of catatonic state soon? I mean, surely, just because he can't be killed, he needs air to live. Right? Maybe he will "Die" until the casket is opened up again and then he will come back, ala Jason Vorhees via some lightning bolt or something.

Also, I like how at the end of the season it appears people are dead again. Hmmmm...I would be willing to bet neither of the people you think might be dead from last night will stay that way. Just like last finale. There is a pattern here.


what that tv shows about super heroes mimic comic books about super heroes?
 
2007-12-04 02:24:33 PM
If you were able to come back from any injury and could only be killed by removal of your head, what's to keep you from just spending the next 20 or 30 years scratching your way through a coffin before digging your way up to freedom? I mean, even if it was a metal coffin, you could probably scratch your way out given enough time.
 
2007-12-04 02:28:01 PM
Funkychuck: If you were able to come back from any injury and could only be killed by removal of your head, what's to keep you from just spending the next 20 or 30 years scratching your way through a coffin before digging your way up to freedom? I mean, even if it was a metal coffin, you could probably scratch your way out given enough time.

He'll be back...or maybe he won't. He wasn't that great or deep of a character.

I won't be surprised either way.

/nothin
 
2007-12-04 02:28:16 PM
srhp29: SPOILERS BELOW (though if you are in this thread the day after the finale and have not watched, you get what you deserve)...


So will Adam go into some sort of catatonic state soon? I mean, surely, just because he can't be killed, he needs air to live. Right? Maybe he will "Die" until the casket is opened up again and then he will come back, ala Jason Vorhees via some lightning bolt or something.

Also, I like how at the end of the season it appears people are dead again. Hmmmm...I would be willing to bet neither of the people you think might be dead from last night will stay that way. Just like last finale. There is a pattern here.


I think once he runs out of oxygen he will start dying and coming back to life repeatedly.
 
2007-12-04 02:31:20 PM
"Season 3 better kick all kinds of ass...or else I'll have to just keep watching."

My sentiments exactly. It's got to be one of the worst shows I've ever not stopped watching..
 
2007-12-04 02:31:35 PM
Heroes is lame because now everyone who 'dies' can just be brought back to life with Claire's blood. Also, Matt and Mohinder don't check in with each other? What kind of domestic partnership do they have?
I would have liked to have seen Hiro and Adam in the coffin together for the split second when they jumped.
 
2007-12-04 02:34:59 PM
As I was saying earlier:

That episode started great, but took a nose-dive toward the end (like last season)

I will be absolutely farking livid if they kill of Nathan, after shooting Maya and bringing her back to life.
 
2007-12-04 02:40:35 PM
Etchy333: I'm Popeye, the sailor syler-man!

FTFY :)
 
2007-12-04 02:41:57 PM
Tatsuma: As I was saying earlier:

That episode started great, but took a nose-dive toward the end (like last season)

I will be absolutely farking livid if they kill of Nathan, after shooting Maya and bringing her back to life.


I think they started the series with the intention of keeping a skeleton cast around between seasons but everyone was just so damn likable that the fans are revolting if their favorite character gets into harms way
 
2007-12-04 02:42:20 PM
He'll be back...or maybe he won't. He wasn't that great or deep of a character.

I liked him better when he was a "good" character.

I think once he runs out of oxygen he will start dying and coming back to life repeatedly.

Sounds like hell

That episode started great, but took a nose-dive toward the end (like last season)

You mean because they take all this time building things up only to have anti climactic conclusions? I agree.
 
2007-12-04 02:43:19 PM
LandOfChocolate: I think they started the series with the intention of keeping a skeleton cast around between seasons but everyone was just so damn likable that the fans are revolting if their favorite character gets into harms way

Oh, I had no problems with killing off characters. I just think that if you are going to kill characters, don't be a retard about it

Killing Nikki last season would have been a good idea. At this point it was just useless.

And, really, killing off Nathan and keeping Maya alive?

Killing Ted was fine, for example.
 
2007-12-04 02:43:43 PM
I like the idea of there being a chunk of new villains next season, mainly because Sylar will likely not be a part of them. I'm not saying he'll be a hero, but he's probably just as likely to make a grab for the villains' powers too. It would be a lot of fun to watch the two sides face off each other but still have Sylar lurking in the shadows picking them off one by one.

Also, I'd heard that Ali Larter wanted to be off the show, so I think it's safe to say that a powerless Nikki didn't survive.
 
2007-12-04 02:45:07 PM
srhp29: You mean because they take all this time building things up only to have anti climactic conclusions? I agree.

Last season of Heroes, starting from the middle of the season, it was like this great and perfect soufflé, you saw it rise, rise, rise, rise, rise and rise and just when you're about to take it out and eat it, it collapses leaving you with a mess.

That was season 2's finale, except there was no actual built-up before, just a horrible mess of a season.
 
2007-12-04 02:48:32 PM
Ok, Hiro trapping Adam was pretty satisfying. I'm pretty sure that he'll 'die' when he runs out of oxygen, then be revived whenever he comes back to the surface (I wouldn't bet on him coming back, though, Hiro is the only one who knows where he is and he's fine leaving him there).

I'm a little pissed that the entire NO plotline was only meant to introduce a character who didn't do anything just to put a character in danger of death when she already has an incurable virus. Stupid plotline, went nowhere.

I'm a little ticked at the whole reversible-death thing. It was bad enough that most of the 'deaths' last season finale weren't real (wait, if DL died in that club, did anyone actually die in the season finale last time?) but now they have no problem killing people then bringing them back. Although I think I would have been more frustrated had Maya died right there, because then her entire plotline/character would have been for nothing. At least now we have the possibility of a return on the amount of time that's been put into her.

Although my favorite part of the episode was the Hiro/Peter fight. Fun stuff.

/why didn't Adam notice that he hadn't aged in 40 years back in feudal Japan? Seems like most people would notice something like that
//so is the Irish chick stuck in some kind of time-paradox purgatory, then?
 
2007-12-04 02:49:07 PM
Oh, and at least, if they ARE going to kill off Nathan, make it so that Peter becomes evil and eventually has to be killed off. He's becoming too powerful and he is already going toward the dark side
 
2007-12-04 02:49:32 PM
Why, when everyone assumed Nathan was dead, bring him back only to shoot him a few episodes later? Parkman could have done all the investigating by himself.

I was so glad when Maya was shot... then angry that they had introduced two usless siblings only to have them killed. Then she came back and I thought "I traded Nikki and Nathan for this?"

Not happy with the wondertwins at all.
 
2007-12-04 02:50:01 PM
Sir Vanderhoot: (wait, if DL died in that club, did anyone actually die in the season finale last time?)

Linderman, Ted
 
2007-12-04 02:50:12 PM
They'll bring Nathan back after they figure out that Peter's blood has the same healing factor as Claire's because he's got her powers. What I want to see is Heroes blood wars. Like when Nathan gets injected with Peter's superblood, he's going to be all badass, but just for a while. Then the Company figures out that Peter's blood is really the super-shiat, but they can't get ahold of him because he's just that powerful and won't be held unless he wants to be.

They still need to do more with the Hatian. Or clarify his powers some. Is he a sort of mobile, temporary version of the Shanti virus?

Really, if they wanted to get rid of sylar, they'd just send the Hatian to go shoot him. End of story.

The Hatian is totally the best, most underused character in that series.
 
2007-12-04 02:51:12 PM
Can someone tell me why Peter didn't just farking phase through the door instead of removing it with TK?
 
2007-12-04 02:52:14 PM
Tatsuma: srhp29: You mean because they take all this time building things up only to have anti climactic conclusions? I agree.

Last season of Heroes, starting from the middle of the season, it was like this great and perfect soufflé, you saw it rise, rise, rise, rise, rise and rise and just when you're about to take it out and eat it, it collapses leaving you with a mess.

That was season 2's finale, except there was no actual built-up before, just a horrible mess of a season.


I think the problem is that you're thinking of the show "seasons" in terms of other generic shows that run.

With Heroes' "volumes" their story arcs aren't as bell-like as your soufflé example
 
2007-12-04 02:59:05 PM
Tatsuma

Can someone tell me why Peter didn't just farking phase through the door instead of removing it with TK?


Probably because he didn't fully recognize that he can walk through the door. And not only that, it wouldn't have been possible for Adam to walk in and grab the virus at that point. He would have had to had Peter just get it, and Peter would have destroyed it. So TK makes sense from a writer's point of view because then it allows Adam to interact with the scene.

Personally, I think it would have been much cooler if he would have tested Nikki's strength some to see if he could just rip the door off of the hinges. Now that would have been some hardcore comic book shiat right there. But maybe a little tough to pull with a limited effects budget.
 
2007-12-04 03:02:08 PM
Sir Vanderhoot: //so is the Irish chick stuck in some kind of time-paradox purgatory, then?

Whatever happened with her? Obviously she was still stuck in some sort of future. But, I thought when she was talking to Peter about his box that he hadn't opened, she had one of the company symbols flash on her arm then disappear, implying she worked for the company or had some power. I was waiting for something to happen there all season.
 
2007-12-04 03:02:23 PM
Theroies:
Niki's dead body will lead to an outbreak of the Shanti virus. They didn't actually change the future.
Future Peter is Nathan's killer.
 
2007-12-04 03:03:44 PM
WhoIsWillo: Theroies:
Niki's dead body will lead to an outbreak of the Shanti virus. They didn't actually change the future.
Future Peter is Nathan's killer.


I think her dead body would have been incinerated along with the virus
 
2007-12-04 03:05:40 PM
WhoIsWillo: Future Peter is Nathan's killer.


Damn... that would be crazy. It was a white dude, so no Haitian, Sylar and HRG were on opposite sides of the country (NYC and Cali), he was too thin to be Bob, so I don't know who else is left. The invisible guy from season 1, maybe, but future Peter would be awesome.
 
2007-12-04 03:06:04 PM
Although I think I would have been more frustrated had Maya died right there, because then her entire plotline/character would have been for nothing.

When he shot there, I laughed because I know how generally hated her and her brother are by the fans. I thought of Lost and how they tried to bring Nikki and Paulo in and then ended up killing them off because the fans didn't like them.

But then they brought her back anyway. Her power sucks balls anyhow.

why didn't Adam notice that he hadn't aged in 40 years back in feudal Japan?

I might have missed, but how do you know he wasn't just a late 20's early 30's man back then? Maybe his powers had not fabricated as of yet?
 
2007-12-04 03:07:02 PM
SpinStopper: awfulperson: I wish he'd develop a power that would render him incapable of wearing clothing.

Gawd. Mindbleach. Please. Now ;)


As you wish...

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2007-12-04 03:08:19 PM
srhp29:

why didn't Adam notice that he hadn't aged in 40 years back in feudal Japan?

I might have missed, but how do you know he wasn't just a late 20's early 30's man back then? Maybe his powers had not fabricated as of yet?


There was something about finding out when he was born from season 1, then what year it was when Hiro went back. Before his healing powers were revealed, some sites had figured it out that he should have been 70 or something.
 
2007-12-04 03:09:00 PM
I really liked Peter early on. I had high hopes for him as the head of some super-power team. They hinted as much with future-Hiro.

But even with his basically god-like powers, he's still nothign more than a bruiser.

Oh, he can walk through walls, yet has to spend an entire commercial break yanking a giant vault door open. he freaks out when someone gets killed, yet says nothing when Adam hacks his way through a bunch of security guards with a sword.

It never occurs to him to read Adam's mind, even after being confronted by Hiro.

Speaking of Hiro, if Peter can't figure out how to use the time traveling to save Caitlin, then why can't he get Hiro to help him?

Also, I have a suspicion that Adam is Nathan and Peter's real father.
 
2007-12-04 03:10:43 PM
stephen74:
Probably because he didn't fully recognize that he can walk through the door....

And not only that, it wouldn't have been possible for Adam to walk in and grab the virus at that point.


Wrong, Peter phased through his cell wall to get to Adam. Then he phased both of them through the cell wall to get them out. When I saw him trying to rip that safe apart, I was wondering the same thing. Then again, when Peter read that woman's mind to get the address for the virus, he should've read Adam's mind to find out if he really intended on releasing the virus.
 
2007-12-04 03:11:04 PM
cyrus_hunter: Is it wrong that I started humming the Popeye the Sailor theme softly to myself at the end of the last episode of Heroes?

/I'm Sylar the Killer-Man
//I'm Sylar the Killer-Man
///The scene I will finish
////Cause I grabs me spinach
//I'm Sylar the Killer-Man!


thats what i strated doing too.
 
2007-12-04 03:11:41 PM
WhoIsWillo: Future Peter is Nathan's killer.

Dude, we saw HRG walk away
 
2007-12-04 03:13:54 PM
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2007-12-04 03:16:34 PM
Tim Kring is one of the worst things to happen to the comic book genre since Rob Liefeld (albeit in different mediums). He's a farking idiot.

But to be fair, he does cast some smoking HOT chicks on his show.
 
2007-12-04 03:21:21 PM
Are you sure you saw what you think you saw, Tatsuma?
 
2007-12-04 03:21:56 PM
Tatsuma: Dude, we saw HRG walk away

They didn't show HRG specifically, but that would make sense. It would be his big initiation back into the company, preventing Nathan from doing the same thing he preventing Claire from doing. It also raises the dramatic issues of Claire's adopted father shooting her real father. :)
 
2007-12-04 03:23:18 PM
Tatsuma: WhoIsWillo: Future Peter is Nathan's killer.

Dude, we saw HRG walk away


No, we didn't. We saw a thin white guy in a baseball cap with dark hair walk away. Looking at it again, he looks like Sylar did back before we saw his face in season 1.

VTSquire
You, sir, are awesome.
 
2007-12-04 03:25:24 PM
Funkychuck: If you were able to come back from any injury and could only be killed by removal of your head, what's to keep you from just spending the next 20 or 30 years scratching your way through a coffin before digging your way up to freedom? I mean, even if it was a metal coffin, you could probably scratch your way out given enough time.


Someone that heals very fast still needs food and water. Their body will need material to build out of. In fact, I'd be that after someone like that healed themselves of any significant injuries they'd probably be pretty damn hungry...

So trapping him without food, water and air I'd say is a death sentance - cellular regeneration or not.
 
2007-12-04 03:27:42 PM
mongbiohazard: Funkychuck: If you were able to come back from any injury and could only be killed by removal of your head, what's to keep you from just spending the next 20 or 30 years scratching your way through a coffin before digging your way up to freedom? I mean, even if it was a metal coffin, you could probably scratch your way out given enough time.


Someone that heals very fast still needs food and water. Their body will need material to build out of. In fact, I'd be that after someone like that healed themselves of any significant injuries they'd probably be pretty damn hungry...

So trapping him without food, water and air I'd say is a death sentance - cellular regeneration or not.


I was leaning more towards something like hibernation. Makes more sense. Oxygen, too. I mean, the guy can still drown, just not permanently.
 
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