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(Boston Globe)   Black man tries to board airplane in Boston. He should know better, seeing as how he is the ACLU's expert on racial profiling   (boston.com) divider line 218
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2007-12-04 11:58:24 AM  
Is it aginst the law for a cop to ask for your ID and follow up with a few questions?

Relax already.

If you start acting like an asshat during this process of screening, which everyone is suspect to, it's very likely you may find yourself in a bind.
 
2007-12-04 11:58:40 AM  
Dadburns: Lets' see, I guess the acronym for that program would be BASS? Seems an appropriate name for a "fishing-trip" justification program.

It was created under the Terrorist Reaction Enforcement By Legislative Enactment.
 
2007-12-04 12:00:03 PM  
You can be arrested for not showing ID? What was the official date that we decided that the Nazi's had it right?
 
2007-12-04 12:00:33 PM  
Theaetetus: Dadburns: Lets' see, I guess the acronym for that program would be BASS? Seems an appropriate name for a "fishing-trip" justification program.

It was created under the Terrorist Reaction Enforcement By Legislative Enactment.


Actually was going for humor there... I'll work on a pun next time.
 
2007-12-04 12:00:48 PM  
I just read the whole PDF. I'd say he has a good case and the state police should have to pay a settlement. It is always good to see something like this make it to court. Because you know they trashed the rights of many before one case like this came up. I would bet on a daily basis the cops do the same thing.
 
2007-12-04 12:01:01 PM  
Theaetetus: It was created under the Terrorist Reaction Enforcement By Legislative Enactment.

tbn0.google.com
 
2007-12-04 12:02:09 PM  
FTFA

He was surrounded by four state troopers and told he was under arrest for not failing to produce identification.

The official in charge of fighting racial profiling for the American Civil Liberties Union says he was the victim of profiling at Logan Airport, and he has gone to federal court to challenge a screening technique that relies on suspicious behavior to identify potential terrorists.


As someone who did not not not not smoke a joint in the parking lot there while waiting for my flight and was never questioned about anything, I am really getting a kick out of these replies

/white
//male
///fairly clean cut
////probably could have guessed that
 
2007-12-04 12:03:38 PM  
HotWingConspiracy: You can be arrested for not showing ID? What was the official date that we decided that the Nazi's had it right?

Well, for all their faults, the Nazis DID know how to correctly use an apostrophe....
 
2007-12-04 12:04:01 PM  
Everett the Red: This is part of the War of Christmas.

DAMN LIBTARDS


Don't forget anti-Semitic and anti-White (from other thread)
 
2007-12-04 12:05:00 PM  
I was wanded and frisked six times on my last flight. (In each line at each leg of the flight up and back) and I'm a pasty, overweight white guy. I can only assume they chose to do so because of my appearance. (I was wearing a long coat.)

I demand my apology. And reparations.
 
2007-12-04 12:05:22 PM  
Note to self

Step 1 go to airport

Step 2 stare at cop

Step 3 Profit
 
2007-12-04 12:05:28 PM  
Your Black Muslim Credit Union: I just read the whole PDF. I'd say he has a good case and the state police should have to pay a settlement. It is always good to see something like this make it to court. Because you know they trashed the rights of many before one case like this came up. I would bet on a daily basis the cops do the same thing.

If you read only the "complaint" regarding any lawsuit, you will think the complaintant has a good case. Remember, there is another side to the story. Not saying what happened was right or wrong, just that there is another side of the story that is likely the exact opposite of what is in the complaint.
 
2007-12-04 12:06:50 PM  
basnappl 2007-12-04 11:41:27 AM
I don't know if I believe a black officer would be any less likely to profile than anyone else...

of course they wouldn't, they know the crime stats, just like their white counterparts; and it's a bit racist of you to even wonder that...soft bigotry of low expectations, and all
 
2007-12-04 12:07:19 PM  
When you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

When you're an ACLU racial profiling lawyer....
 
2007-12-04 12:07:26 PM  
"Black" Americans are the most racist people I've ever encountered.
 
2007-12-04 12:07:50 PM  
FTFA: His lawsuit seeks unspecified damages

Unless he missed his flight, the only damages he incurred were his feelings.
 
2007-12-04 12:08:16 PM  
FTFA: "Logan officials say race played no role in the decision to question Downing. The first trooper to ask him for identification was black, and three of the four officers who arrived later also were black, court documents indicated. The first trooper said he became suspicious when he saw Downing watching him."

Deserved highlighting. The guy was looking for trouble and found it. Asshole.
 
2007-12-04 12:10:16 PM  
HotWingConspiracy: You can be arrested for not showing ID? What was the official date that we decided that the Nazi's had it right?

The SC decided such with the Hiible case, States have the right to have laws like this in place. MA has one on the books as I recall, but I don't remember the exact law. And I don't think it applys to this type of case. The guy is in the ACLU, and I would think they wouldn't file the case without knowing that.
http://www.papersplease.org/hiibel/
 
2007-12-04 12:11:51 PM  
People get pissed off at profiling because it works if done properly.

/Now, where'd I put those asbestos underoos.....
 
2007-12-04 12:12:25 PM  
amazing_live_seamonkeys: Theaetetus: It was created under the Terrorist Reaction Enforcement By Legislative Enactment.

[facepalm]


Hey! Our terrorist prevention goes to 11!
 
2007-12-04 12:14:12 PM  
lh5.google.com

To be fair to the cop the man was wearing this shirt when he was at the airport.

/ 1-31-07 : Never forget!
 
2007-12-04 12:15:30 PM  
How can an organization claiming to be in favor of civil liberties support massive gun control efforts (violates the Second Amendment) and racial preferences in education and hiring (violates the Fourteenth and Fifth Amendments when done in the context of federal funding)?
 
2007-12-04 12:15:55 PM  
amazing_live_seamonkeys
I agree, aa has nothing to do with the constitution, it ought to be ignored.
 
2007-12-04 12:16:09 PM  
mungo:

Deserved highlighting. The guy was looking for trouble and found it. Asshole.

I'm assuming that the black troopers thought he was Arab. I'm half white and half black, and I get mistaken for Arab alot (especially at the airport)... I think thats where the racial profiling part came in.
 
2007-12-04 12:16:54 PM  
/Points at the little bottle rocket some kids made because they saw fireworks.

"Terrorists!"
"They plan on blowing up the world!"

//Here Lies Common Sense//
//May He Rest in Pieces//
 
2007-12-04 12:17:21 PM  
i190.photobucket.com
 
2007-12-04 12:18:23 PM  
Theaetetus

given we could have stopped 9-11 without any of these new policies if government did what it was supposed to its not that way for me.

the TSA is BS and anyone who is thinking knows it
 
2007-12-04 12:18:49 PM  
mungo: he guy was looking for trouble and found it. Asshole.

Watching Police (when there are hundreds of them at an airport) is looking for trouble? Damn.
 
2007-12-04 12:19:12 PM  
He was surrounded by four state troopers and told he was under arrest for not failing to produce identification.

Haha.
 
2007-12-04 12:20:43 PM  
Why doesn't he bring a class action suit against the black race for being so disproportionally criminal that they warrant extra scrutiny?
 
2007-12-04 12:21:08 PM  
I came in to see all the farkism which is actually worse than racism.
 
2007-12-04 12:21:56 PM  
the_chief: "Black" Americans are the most racist people I've ever encountered.

I'll second that.
 
2007-12-04 12:21:59 PM  
They do profile. After Sept. 11, 2001 I was pulled aside on the next seven flights I took. They always said it was "a random search" but frankly each flight had over 100 people on it and I was always one of the 4 randomly checked. (yes I'm black). I wasn't going to sue or anything, just was annoying. I was glad they were trying to do something and I suppose a black man with a ghotee and only carry on luggage looks suspicious to someone. Eh.

Then at some point that got the memo that all brown people aren't bad and it stopped. Haven't been pulled since. Now my friends who look middle eastern in any way get pulled still all the time. While profiling is annoying and frankly history has shown that terrorists come in all colors (Atlanta olymipcs, and Oklahoma City Bombings for example) they focus on single men and certain races. Maybe it's the statistics, maybe it's the fact that most single white women with two kids aren't terrorists Key word there is most. . .).

When my frequently pulled friends and I compared notes we also found that showing your passport as an ID for a domestic flight is a great way to become "randomly selected" even if you aren't brown. I always show my liscence but others have compared the same flights flashing a different ID.
 
2007-12-04 12:22:02 PM  
This is typical airport security these days. It is not racial profiling by a long shot. The same thing happens to this honkey whenever i fly. Except, you know, I produce ID again and dont get arrested. Theyd be happy to arrest me though if I told them to fark off when they wanted to see my ID again. They qalready make me take my shoes off. they pull me aside for more thorough searches roughly 1 out of 4 times that Im in one of their cattle lines. I dunno if this is more or less than most people. I dont like it but I shrug and bear it.
 
2007-12-04 12:22:54 PM  
Arthur Jumbles: To be fair to the cop the man was wearing this shirt when he was at the airport.

/ 1-31-07 : Never forget!


He probably has one of these: tbn0.google.com being one of asshats to march with Sharpton and Jackson in Jena (pop).
 
2007-12-04 12:23:51 PM  
BravadoGT: HotWingConspiracy: You can be arrested for not showing ID? What was the official date that we decided that the Nazi's had it right?

Well, for all their faults, the Nazis DID know how to correctly use an apostrophe....


I had my Klingon filter running.
 
2007-12-04 12:24:57 PM  
1/31/07 Never Forget!!!
img138.imageshack.us
 
2007-12-04 12:25:25 PM  
Dadburns:
Lets' see, I guess the acronym for that program would be BASS? Seems an appropriate name for a "fishing-trip" justification program.


Well the other guy does work for the Campaign Against Racial Profiling which would be CARP.

Seems the whole thing is fishy.
 
2007-12-04 12:25:54 PM  
Gaylord Farker: It seems clear that the guy's appearance led to his questioning.

But this guy wasn't just an expert/ lecturer on profiling, he is an *activist* against it. Funny that he would wind up in this spot.

King in action:

www.impeachforpeacemarshall.org/jenaprotest.htm


OMG...hes part of that Jena BS?? That explains it all. Definately one of those "im black and if an authority figure even looks at me, its racist and im gonna whine and cry"

Im so tired of hearing about that BS...Jena; nuke it from orbit, its the only way to be sure...

Make sure Jessie and Al are present first...
 
2007-12-04 12:25:58 PM  
Lamune_Baba: I was wanded and frisked six times on my last flight. (In each line at each leg of the flight up and back) and I'm a pasty, overweight white guy. I can only assume they chose to do so because of my appearance. (I was wearing a long coat.)

I demand my apology. And reparations.


I'm on the "Selectee List" and go through the extra-special security line every time I fly. Turns out that line is always the shortest and if it goes well I'm through security more quickly. Who knew being one of the "usual suspects" could be a good thing?
 
2007-12-04 12:26:04 PM  
40oz_A_Knight:
How can an organization claiming to be in favor of civil liberties support massive gun control efforts (violates the Second Amendment)


Psst... You're doing it wrong.
 
2007-12-04 12:27:05 PM  
mikaloyd: The same thing happens to this honkey whenever i fly. Except, you know, I produce ID again and dont get arrested.

You get surrounded by 4 cops every time you enter a non-secure area of the terminal and are forced to show ID? That's farked up. You should sue.
 
2007-12-04 12:27:48 PM  
Just curious, but is there an easy way to find when you must legally present ID? While driving, of course, but otherwise the laws vary by state and google fails me.
 
2007-12-04 12:28:48 PM  
Didn't the brother know that's what Greyhound is for...?
 
2007-12-04 12:29:55 PM  
tkeon168: Dadburns:
Lets' see, I guess the acronym for that program would be BASS? Seems an appropriate name for a "fishing-trip" justification program.

Well the other guy does work for the Campaign Against Racial Profiling which would be CARP.

Seems the whole thing is fishy.


/I see what you did there... and I liked it!
 
2007-12-04 12:30:06 PM  
brynthian: When my frequently pulled friends and I compared notes we also found that showing your passport as an ID for a domestic flight is a great way to become "randomly selected" even if you aren't brown. I always show my liscence but others have compared the same flights flashing a different ID.

Hmmm, that might be why I get it so often. Cant say for sure.Next domestic flight I'll try just showing my drivers license.
 
2007-12-04 12:31:17 PM  
Racial profiling is one of the KEYS to good detective work.

Polictical Correctness is an attack on free speech.

Finally, some erroneously think that an attept at being self-proclaimed 'thought police' makes so-called 'hate' crimes more dastardly than crime itself.

Profiles include race for a reason. Get over it.
 
2007-12-04 12:33:03 PM  
Dadburns: Lamune_Baba: I was wanded and frisked six times on my last flight. (In each line at each leg of the flight up and back) and I'm a pasty, overweight white guy. I can only assume they chose to do so because of my appearance. (I was wearing a long coat.)

I demand my apology. And reparations.

I'm on the "Selectee List" and go through the extra-special security line every time I fly. Turns out that line is always the shortest and if it goes well I'm through security more quickly. Who knew being one of the "usual suspects" could be a good thing?


You know, sometimes I do make it through the searches quicker than if they didnt pick me. Sometimes they take their friggin time.
 
2007-12-04 12:34:07 PM  
amazing_live_seamonkeys: Theaetetus: It was created under the Terrorist Reaction Enforcement By Legislative Enactment.

That's the trouble with TREBLE. You never know what's going to get caught up in its net.

www.audiomastermind.us
 
2007-12-04 12:35:43 PM  
Walker: Oh for f*cks sake. The police have no right to stop and ask to see your ID because you made a phone call at a pay phone. Go live in a police state if you like this kind of sh*t. Oh, wait we already live in one.

Hey Drama Queen, China is a police state. Being inconvenienced is not the same as getting dragged to a work farm in Siberia. Of course I wouldn't expect someone living in the most free place on the planet to understand. Especially since it's obvious that your mommy didn't give you the attention you required growing up.

And read the ARTICLE where it outlines why the initial trooper stopped him - the guy was eye-farking the cops. I would expect to be asked to show my ID if I stared at them for an unnatural period.

Me thinks the word "uppity" could be used appropriately to describe his majesty Mr. Downing.
 
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