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2007-11-29 08:32:42 PM
I see what you did there....
 
2007-11-30 12:08:22 AM
The people who lose it later may lose it later because they are embarrassed about their nether regions, are fatties, etc. I highly doubt waiting to lose it will cause you to have sexual dysfunction and its more likely they are symptoms of some other cause.
 
2007-11-30 12:52:42 AM
Postal Penguin: The people who lose it later may lose it later because they are embarrassed about their nether regions, are fatties, etc. I highly doubt waiting to lose it will cause you to have sexual dysfunction and its more likely they are symptoms of some other cause.

If it's in AJPH then they took confounding factors into account. Which ones, I don't know, but such obvious things like weight, religiosity, etc. would surely be noted and controlled for if necessary.
 
2007-11-30 12:55:06 AM
Oh and this: "Our results do not allow for causal interpretations," the study authors write.

/16, before I get attacked.
 
2007-11-30 06:08:54 AM
Well, I'm farked.

/If only that were literal. :(
 
2007-11-30 06:17:05 AM
Wow, I was in the tail end of the "late debut" range (23) and don't think it did anything but make me appreciate it more when it finally happened.

/Not religious, not a fatty, just fainted every time anyone made a move.
 
2007-11-30 06:22:33 AM
Who issued this farkin pointless grant? I can't wait to get back to academia and live off of farked up grants like this. bah.
 
2007-11-30 06:23:43 AM
So if you are 33 and still a virgin its a bad thing? oops my bad
 
2007-11-30 06:23:58 AM
I must agree with subby on this one.

If I had a post, I'd have it out right now playing with it.
 
2007-11-30 06:24:24 AM
Just Drawn That Way: Wow, I was in the tail end of the "late debut" range (23) and don't think it did anything but make me appreciate it more when it finally happened.

/Not religious, not a fatty, just fainted every time anyone made a move.


That could potentially make it easier for you to lose your virginity earlier.

/That, and the roofie colada.
 
2007-11-30 06:24:25 AM
Ladies, it doesn't matter when you lose your virginity.

Just be sure to keep the box it came in.
 
2007-11-30 06:29:37 AM
I_Can't_Believe_it's_not_Boutros: Ladies, it doesn't matter when you lose your virginity.

Just be sure to keep the box it came in.


Well, within reason. If you lost it last week, whatever. If you lost it during the attack on Pearl Harbor....
 
2007-11-30 06:30:14 AM
The increase in sexual problems was also seen in those who had a comparably earlier sexual debut. And the researchers were quick to point out that there isn't enough evidence to say for sure whether waiting to have sex necessarily leads to sexual dysfunction down the road.

That one statement basically said that while they *think* that waiting for sex can lead to dysfunction, they pretty much have no proof that can be considered valid.

I'd love it if some of these "breaking" medical studies actually waited until they proved their theories instead of posting said flawed & incomplete studies in the news. This article is a load of bullsh*t. I'm just irritated at the amount of "studies" that try to prove a hypothesis & try to pass of the hypothesis as fact when their studies have actually shown that there is no correlation between the data gathered & whatever they were studying.
 
2007-11-30 06:30:30 AM
www.trailerdownload.net

/superobligatory
 
2007-11-30 06:30:43 AM
img505.imageshack.us

Obviously this girl ended up being very well adjusted after losing her virginity at a young age.
 
2007-11-30 06:31:47 AM
davin: I see what you did there....

Though the question remains, will he clean it up?
 
2007-11-30 06:31:53 AM
MY girlfriend was 34 but she isn't fat she weighs 85 pounds
/cambodian
 
2007-11-30 06:32:01 AM
Malice: Who issued this farkin pointless grant? I can't wait to get back to academia and live off of farked up grants like this. bah.

That's what I've been doing for the last three years. I highly recommend it.
 
2007-11-30 06:32:48 AM
Is 41 considered "later in life?" God, I hope not.
 
2007-11-30 06:33:38 AM
bitparity: Obviously this girl ended up being very well adjusted after losing her virginity at a young age.

Ouch!
 
2007-11-30 06:33:59 AM
So does that mean that anyone who is a virgin over age 23 should remain a virgin? I think these researchers just want to clear the playing field.
 
2007-11-30 06:34:03 AM
Lost it at 20, but I don't think that's considered "later in life"
 
2007-11-30 06:34:29 AM
FTA Even though the research stops short of indicating a causal relationship between the age at which one loses his or her virginity and sexual problems they may experience later, Coleman said a number of possible factors could contribute to both of these things.

"From a clinical standpoint, there are often dynamics other than the desire to be abstinent until marriage, such as fear of intimacy, body image problems, alcohol and drug abuse, and sexual dysfunction(?)," he said. He adds that these factors "might influence the delay of sexual debut as a means of avoiding sexual issues."


Obesity, diabetes, drug abuse, things like that can cause sexual dysfunction. They can also interfere with getting laid, particularly in people under 20.

Shock

This headline could have just as easily read "Sexual dysfunction could lead to losing your virginity later in life, Fark.com" and have been just as accurate. So often when one of these studies makes it into the news, it seems like they're spinning the results to garner the maximum possible news coverage. In this case, I'm not even sure what the intent was of the original study. I'm picturing either a bunch of beautiful people trying to prove just how much better they are then the losers, now and forever, or a bunch of middle-aged scientists explaining why they can't get it up now.

liberalish: Oh and this: "Our results do not allow for causal interpretations," the study authors write.

Because your study didn't prove anything. People with medical and psychological problems when they're young still have them when they're older, particularly if they don't receive treatment.


Again,
Shock

/oh, btw, liberalish not a dig at you. Quoted you (and misread that as "casual interpretations" at first) because I missed that quote first go round on that long ass article. I also missed it was 3 pages at first.
 
2007-11-30 06:36:21 AM
TFA: Those who lose their virginity at a later age -- around 21 to 23 years of age -- tend to be more likely to experience sexual dysfunction problems later

Phew, right on time... I'm officially normal.

/end sarcasm
//20
 
2007-11-30 06:37:04 AM
virginity....em..ended at 22 years of age ...now @45 i wish i was still a virgin....

train up a child in the way he should go, when he is old he will not depart from it. proverbs 22.6

don't pressure me to have *** i will tell you to go and fark yourself.
 
2007-11-30 06:38:36 AM
I lost my virginity at the grand age of 64.

To your sister!


/hehe
 
2007-11-30 06:40:00 AM
My darwin fish just humped my jesus fish. So much for the jesus fish being a virgin. I was hoping it would hold out till atleast 2 years old.
 
2007-11-30 06:40:35 AM
I'm 26 in less than a month.

when I was 21, I spent a couple of times with this girl, who quite frankly was a biatch.

she kept telling me that she didn't like me or even find me attractive, and she was just using me. she wouldn't let me touch her, and there was no fore or afterplay. and everytime I came, it was without orgasm, because everytime I got it up, shed insult me....however, she was impressed with my package, and that's why I was chosen I guess.

but, I had to think of other girls to finish, or even get aroused. like I said, it was always without orgasm.

the only reason I put up with it was because at that age, she was the only girl I had been naked in front of or with, and had no prior experience, except hugs.

no I'm not gay, I had a very farked up upbringing and wasn't around people until I was in my 20s, and I still have a very hard time dealing with.

so...im a reclusive loner loser, but fine with that.

almost 26 and haven't had any real experience.....i may not have physical dysfunction, but the emotional dysfunction is enough to make me physically unable to reach my potential.
 
2007-11-30 06:41:50 AM
Occam's Chainsaw: /That, and the roofie colada.

My tipple of choice is the rojito.
 
2007-11-30 06:42:50 AM
Sounds like some horseshiat to me.
 
2007-11-30 06:42:53 AM
bitparity: Obviously this girl ended up being very well adjusted after losing her virginity at a young age.

Who is that?

/14
//way too young IMO
 
2007-11-30 06:43:52 AM
Losing your virginity later in life could lead to sexual dysfunction, Fark.com blasting a hole through the top of your lover's head with decades of backed up semen

FTFY
 
2007-11-30 06:43:58 AM
Occams Chainsaw: Never noticed your name before. Thats clever. Morgans CanNon would be impressed.
 
2007-11-30 06:45:07 AM
So if I lost it at 14 does that mean I have no chance of sexual dysfunction?

/DNRTFA
//giggity-giggity
 
2007-11-30 06:45:38 AM
WHAT IF YOU LOOSE YOUR VIRGINITY ON FARK.COM?
www.veggieboards.com
 
2007-11-30 06:46:43 AM
NeuroticRocker:

img526.imageshack.us
 
2007-11-30 06:47:24 AM
Damn no wonder I have had to fake it with the ladies I've been banging lately.

/14
 
2007-11-30 06:54:37 AM
NeuroticRocker: when I was 21, I spent a couple of times with this girl, who quite frankly was a biatch.

she kept telling me that she didn't like me or even find me attractive, and she was just using me. she wouldn't let me touch her, and there was no fore or afterplay. and everytime I came, it was without orgasm, because everytime I got it up, shed insult me....however, she was impressed with my package, and that's why I was chosen I guess.


So the point of this article is to not wait at all for someone who actually likes you, but to fark anybody when you're in your teens because if you don't, you'll essentially lose it.

What kind of Republican bullshiat is this? Oh wait, it's by a Disney-backed corporation where the perfect citizens are named Jack and Diane with a clown car vagina. My bad. ;)
 
2007-11-30 06:57:14 AM
look what happened to Britney
 
2007-11-30 06:57:24 AM
Dysfunction? That guy has plenty of wood.

img227.imageshack.us
 
2007-11-30 06:57:35 AM
Howser: Losing your virginity later in life could lead to sexual dysfunction, Fark.com blasting a hole through the top of your lover's head with decades of backed up semen

FTFY


Superman lost 3 girlfriends that way.
/The Kents thought he had a shotgun in his room during his younger years
 
2007-11-30 07:01:56 AM
/He's divorced now.
//She's off banging some pedophile in Ohio.
///Seriously, she is.
 
2007-11-30 07:04:22 AM
NeuroticRocker: I'm 26 in less than a month.

when I was 21, I spent a couple of times with this girl, who quite frankly was a biatch.

she kept telling me that she didn't like me or even find me attractive, and she was just using me. she wouldn't let me touch her, and there was no fore or afterplay. and everytime I came, it was without orgasm, because everytime I got it up, shed insult me....however, she was impressed with my package, and that's why I was chosen I guess.

but, I had to think of other girls to finish, or even get aroused. like I said, it was always without orgasm.

the only reason I put up with it was because at that age, she was the only girl I had been naked in front of or with, and had no prior experience, except hugs.

no I'm not gay, I had a very farked up upbringing and wasn't around people until I was in my 20s, and I still have a very hard time dealing with.

so...im a reclusive loner loser, but fine with that.

almost 26 and haven't had any real experience.....i may not have physical dysfunction, but the emotional dysfunction is enough to make me physically unable to reach my potential.


Way to bring the thread down, man.
 
2007-11-30 07:05:05 AM
WiccanThing: /He's divorced now.
//She's off banging some pedophile in Ohio.
///Seriously, she is.


(Okay, that was odd... Fark ate the upper half of my post!)

To sum it up:

"I lost it at 18, but she was a dog. At least I hit it before she plumped up to around 4 bills, and married a buddy of mine."

/Cue above slashies
 
2007-11-30 07:05:54 AM
Guntram Shatterhand:

So the point of this article is to not wait at all for someone who actually likes you, but to fark anybody when you're in your teens because if you don't, you'll essentially lose it.


Sexual initiation is much easier when you're a teen chock full with hormones that make you want to hump anything you can get your hands on. Later in life, when your view of the world and humanity is much more reality-based and the self-doubt eats away at your soul, you're much more self-conscious, and I'd guess if you haven't had any prior sexual experiences, it's really difficult to be relaxed enough to get it on without wondering if you're up to task at all.
 
2007-11-30 07:07:17 AM
Well, if I could assist any of you young ladies with preventing later sexual dysfunction, I'd be happy to help.

/my place or yours?
 
2007-11-30 07:08:06 AM
14, on my first date. I got it out of the way as fast as I could.
 
2007-11-30 07:09:49 AM
MorningBreath: 14, on my first date. I got it out of the way as fast as I could.

Does your teacher (MILF or not) count?

Sorry, had to go there...
 
2007-11-30 07:11:56 AM
Interesting, and it brings up a few good points. NAWT. (Didn't RTFA)

/18
//Bi
///Lost virginity a week ago to a guy.
 
2007-11-30 07:13:16 AM
So research confirms Southpark?

17
 
2007-11-30 07:14:59 AM
ArtemisGoldfish: Interesting, and it brings up a few good points. NAWT. (Didn't RTFA)

/18
//Bi
///Lost virginity a week ago to a guy.


How you doin'?
 
2007-11-30 07:16:32 AM
Or....

does sexual dysfunction lead to losing your virginity later in life?

/chicken or egg?
 
2007-11-30 07:17:07 AM
ArtemisGoldfish: Interesting, and it brings up a few good points. NAWT. (Didn't RTFA)

/18
//Bi
///Lost virginity a week ago to a guy.


You're doing it wrong.

/Not rly. Just yankin' yer chain.
//Wait... I'm just ridin' ya.
///That's worse. Just poking some fun.
////Okay, I'm shutting up now.
 
2007-11-30 07:19:57 AM
Hetfield:How you doin'?
Two words:

Mmm, cawk.
 
2007-11-30 07:21:33 AM
fataldemon: virginity....em..ended at 22 years of age ...now @45 i wish i was still a virgin....

train up a child in the way he should go, when he is old he will not depart from it. proverbs 22.6

don't pressure me to have *** i will tell you to go and fark yourself.


You think the word 'sex' deserves asterisks? And bible quoting too.

"I've tried several varieties of sex. The conventional position makes me claustrophobic and the others give me a stiff neck or lockjaw." (Tallulah Bankhead)
 
PRS
2007-11-30 07:22:57 AM
Men who lose their virginity in their 20s, in particular, seemed to be more likely to experience sexual problems that include difficulty becoming sexually aroused and reaching orgasm.

Problably, they (ahem) become so very apt at spanking the monkey, sex just doesn't do the trick anymore.
 
2007-11-30 07:23:45 AM
Sounds like another call for one of them "Correlation != Causation" posts.
 
2007-11-30 07:24:21 AM
MorningBreath: 14, on my first date. I got it out of the way as fast as I could.

haha 13 can i has a cookie
 
2007-11-30 07:25:10 AM
27 and counting. somebody please put me out of my misery
 
2007-11-30 07:25:28 AM
While past research has linked early sexual activity to health problems, a new study suggests that waiting too long to start having sex carries risks of its own.

I see what you did there.

/bunch of virgins writing this article
//still virgin too
 
2007-11-30 07:27:30 AM
The researchers... also found that men and women who begin having sex in their early teens had their share of problems. They were more likely to have risky sexual partners, to contract a sexually transmitted infection (STI) and to have sex while under the influence of drugs or alcohol.

They say it like having young, drunken sex is a bad thing.

/Lost at 15
//To a chick who, while non-fat, had a lot in common with the big lady from Norbit.
///"Have a girlfriend? No? Well you do now!"
 
2007-11-30 07:31:49 AM
@23 you are either out of college or finishing, if you go to grad school a virgin your peers will laugh at you, if you start working your peers will laugh at you, and if you never went to college your peers will laugh at you for not having further education as well as being a virgin

so please, have a meaningful relationship that involves sex regardless of how it turns out, before it just gets really awkward, you might think its awkward now trying to find someone, well, it only gets worse
 
2007-11-30 07:38:56 AM
NeuroticRocker .....no I'm not gay, I had a very farked up upbringing and wasn't around people until I was in my 20s, and I still have a very hard time dealing with.

Seeing as how you hail from Delaware, you may want to consider adding the chemicals in the drinking water into that equation, too.

/fellow Delawarean, Delawarite, Delaweenie, whatever
 
2007-11-30 07:39:25 AM
28 when I lost mine (32 now) and currently on a 4-year dry-spell. Doesn't bother me at all.

/lives in Montana where I can be by myself.
 
2007-11-30 07:41:02 AM
Saving it up for 40 years.
Stuck in jail will all those queers.
So hold your nose and plug your ears!
Gal I warn ya, here I come!

Gal I warn ya, here I come.
Loaded like a tommy gun.
Should I save your pu$$y some?
Gal I warn ya, here I come!

/JV/
 
2007-11-30 07:41:12 AM
If dysfunction is fark, I guess marriage is totalfark
 
2007-11-30 07:42:12 AM
illustri: so please, have a meaningful relationship that involves sex regardless of how it turns out

does hookers and blow count?
 
2007-11-30 07:44:14 AM
My woman was 25 for her first time, I picked her up at 28 after three partners. She is unable to communicate any wants and I do my best and I do well but I still have to argue with her every other month to keep her head in the game. So in her case, article FTW.
 
2007-11-30 07:45:36 AM
in a realtionship now where any kind of sex is pretty much non existent --- this coming off of relationships where both myself and the other couldn't get enough --- in my current relationship, it almost makes me wish I had never lost my viginity so I wouldn't have any clue of what I was missing
 
2007-11-30 07:47:48 AM
Sharkster: 28 when I lost mine (32 now) and currently on a 4-year dry-spell. Doesn't bother me at all.

How're those velcro gloves working out fer ya?
 
2007-11-30 07:48:47 AM
Damn. I never knew Fark.com was such a sad place. Apparently, this is where hope and dreams come to die.
 
2007-11-30 07:48:48 AM
I'm 22 years old and posting here, so I'm getting a kick out of...

...dammit.
 
2007-11-30 07:48:54 AM
People who are insecure in their sexuality are lame.
 
2007-11-30 07:50:39 AM
I'm curious though, in this day and age, who waits?

Kids not even in middle school are exchanging oral sex like they were passing notes, having orgies, threesomes, most of the girls are eating each other out, etc, etc, etc.

Methinks that people who aren't having sex by, say, the age of 16/17/18 likely have a shiat ton of other issues that inform their sexual dysfunction(s).

In either case, just to be safe, I'll print this article out and tape it up in the back of my van.
 
2007-11-30 07:54:45 AM
Oh_Enough_Already: I'm curious though, in this day and age, who waits?

The really ugly ones.
 
2007-11-30 07:54:50 AM
I read the article, and 1/2 way down reads....

also found that men and women who begin having sex in their early teens had their share of problems. They were more likely to have risky sexual partners, to contract a sexually transmitted infection (STI) and to have sex while under the influence of drugs or alcohol.

So it seems if you lose it too early, you face a whole other list of problems.

"Clinically, we see many individuals who marry late and who have had little or no sexual experience have great difficulty with developing a rich and satisfying sexual experience within their relationship,"

Generally people who marry late with no sexual experience probably have trouble developing rich and satisfying relationships of any type.

The trend that I have noticed is that the young 'uns have had a series of short term sexual experiences. None of which developed their awareness at all.

I call it High Numbers/Low Experience.

Then they think sex is all about finding a better partner.
 
2007-11-30 07:55:24 AM
Hetfield: Sexual initiation is much easier when you're a teen chock full with hormones that make you want to hump anything you can get your hands on. Later in life, when your view of the world and humanity is much more reality-based and the self-doubt eats away at your soul, you're much more self-conscious, and I'd guess if you haven't had any prior sexual experiences, it's really difficult to be relaxed enough to get it on without wondering if you're up to task at all.

That's not a symptom of age, that's a symptom of neurosis. If you're that wound-up about sex and have all that baggage, seek help before you become like this guy:

www.nlm.nih.gov

The more I think about it, the more this study seems to be more right-wing propaganda. "If you don't use it, you lose it!" "Lose it early or you're farked up!" Blanket statements like this seem to follow with 'condoms don't protect against ALL disease' and 'abortion is wrong and evil and you should always ALWAYS choose life' and 'yes, your vagina is a clown car, put out more babies so you can help us against the Liberal Terrorists.'

Very, very scary.
 
2007-11-30 07:55:37 AM
My current girlfriend is 25 and a virgin. I'm 28, lost my virginity at 17 and have been with 5 women...

im falling for this current girl but the problem is, I know what im missing and i think she's afraid of the cock...

its a real concern as we are compatible in every other way so far...
 
2007-11-30 07:56:02 AM
Sex, drugs, rock and roll.

/2 out of 3 ain't bad
//sob

Lost mine at 18.
Lost it again at 19.
Lost it the third time at 21.
Started learning how to actually have fun around 30 or so.
Now need to learn how to have fun without ending up bearing anyone else's personal responsibility for them, which ends up making leaving the house at all seem like a very bad idea.
 
2007-11-30 07:56:56 AM
Meh, 27 and counting.

I blame all the porn and being a fat ugly bastard.
 
2007-11-30 07:57:28 AM
SlappyKincaid: i think she's afraid of the cock...

Must respect the cock.
 
2007-11-30 07:59:30 AM
Oh_Enough_Already: I'm curious though, in this day and age, who waits?

Kids not even in middle school are exchanging oral sex like they were passing notes, having orgies, threesomes, most of the girls are eating each other out, etc, etc, etc.

Methinks that people who aren't having sex by, say, the age of 16/17/18 likely have a shiat ton of other issues that inform their sexual dysfunction(s).


Where the hell are you from? The whole more sex now then ever is a myth (in fact I'm pretty sure there was a story on the main page about this not long ago). I'm not that much older than you, but none of that shiat was going on in my high school. I mean yeah, people had sex, oral and otherwise, but it wasn't a freaking 24/7 porn shoot as you seem to describe it. Lots of people have sex later. Usually there's a reason, but not all of it has to do with issues. Some people mature later - the geeky/dorky/puny/fat/acne-faced kids are NOT getting laid. Luckily, most of them grow out of that by sophomore year in college (plus the girls get easier)-> SEX. Which puts the age for those kids at right about 19-20.
 
2007-11-30 08:01:09 AM
I wonder if the results are different for men and women? Like the reality is that women CAN get it anytime they want. Even a fugly girl can have guys hitting on them. Meanwhile, it is very rare for a girl to ask out a guy, unless he has model looks or has lots of $$$. If a guy is willing to ignore his natural and sexual desires, he could easily remain a virgin for life.

If it is bad for guys to remain virgins, then we COULD legally sue girls for rejecting us because by doing so is a threat to our health and well being.

/skimmed TFA
 
2007-11-30 08:01:27 AM
And the sex ed classes using all the disgusting pictures of STDs also helped. Every time I see some woman throwing herself at some guy I remember those pictures and don't feel too bad about being single.
 
2007-11-30 08:03:54 AM
Reclusive_Rocker

It ain't gonna get any easier from here on out, start trying to make it better and it'll get better.

And, obviously I'm not a professional and this is an online forum, but merely by stating your fears and desires you have voiced them. Don't say you're okay with them when you're not. Do something about them.

I'm a survivor of child abuse and a parent dying young. I have some idea what I'm talking about in that arena... the making things better because no-one else will do it for you. In my experience, the universe is neither hostile nor helpful: depending on your life's viewpoint that's either the most liberating or the most damning statement ever.

Over thorns to stars.

/done motivating a stranger
//18
///currently hates girls after the last girlfriend came out to him
 
2007-11-30 08:04:20 AM
It makes me sad that 21 to 23 is considered "late in life"

/20
//that still makes people look at me like an alien
///could have lost it a lot earlier to some real idiots, glad I didn't
 
2007-11-30 08:04:52 AM
NeuroticRocker: I'm 26 in less than a month.

when I was 21, I spent a couple of times with this girl, who quite frankly was a biatch.

she kept telling me that she didn't like me or even find me attractive, and she was just using me. she wouldn't let me touch her, and there was no fore or afterplay. and everytime I came, it was without orgasm, because everytime I got it up, shed insult me....however, she was impressed with my package, and that's why I was chosen I guess.

but, I had to think of other girls to finish, or even get aroused. like I said, it was always without orgasm.

the only reason I put up with it was because at that age, she was the only girl I had been naked in front of or with, and had no prior experience, except hugs.

no I'm not gay, I had a very farked up upbringing and wasn't around people until I was in my 20s, and I still have a very hard time dealing with.

so...im a reclusive loner loser, but fine with that.

almost 26 and haven't had any real experience.....i may not have physical dysfunction, but the emotional dysfunction is enough to make me physically unable to reach my potential.


www.streetlessons.com
 
2007-11-30 08:05:13 AM
after a certain point, is it just better to not lose it at all?

I'm asking for a friend.
 
2007-11-30 08:05:18 AM
Guntram Shatterhand: The more I think about it, the more this study seems to be more right-wing propaganda.

I think your looking for something that is quite obviously not there.

I seriously doubt you can find many politicians on the right wing who promote sex at a younger age. Most follow (promote) the abstinence path and its pretty much party line.

Given the number of women/men who have been sexually assaulted, been in abuse relationships, those with body or social issues, my guess is those would explain a whole lot of sexual dysfunction more than age.
 
2007-11-30 08:06:50 AM
Lost mine at 21. Not because I couldn't do it earlier or didn't want to do it earlier (I was a horny horny girl in my teens), but I just didn't want to fark someone who I would regret a week later.

/married my first
//still a horny horny girl so no problems with that :-)
 
2007-11-30 08:07:50 AM
NeuroticRocker*
dammit dammit I messed up that name
 
2007-11-30 08:09:51 AM
NEWSFLASH!!!!!

If you are still a virgin, and if that's a problem for you, try CRAIGSLIST!!!
 
2007-11-30 08:11:11 AM
So all of humanity up until the 1960's, which counts for at least 10,000 years of history, were sexually dysfunctional because they didn't bang everything walking at age 16 then?

It's funny what passes for science these days.

Or wait, hold on, something occurred to me. A large swath of marriages in the U.S. seem to be nearly sexless because women (mostly) apparently don't want sex (a dysfunction). Yet many to most of these women lost their virginity well before the age of 23.

Interest-ink.
 
2007-11-30 08:11:35 AM
Drawist: NEWSFLASH!!!!!

If you are still a virgin
your spam folder is empty, and if that's a problem for you, try CRAIGSLIST!!!

FTFY
 
2007-11-30 08:12:03 AM
nuclear_asshat: I think your looking for something that is quite obviously not there.

I seriously doubt you can find many politicians on the right wing who promote sex at a younger age. Most follow (promote) the abstinence path and its pretty much party line.


Possibly, but if Republicans did really follow what they said, then wide stancing and all sorts of infidelity would never happen to Republicans at all and we know that's false. Plus, losing your virginity later in life is a sign of higher education so losing it earlier could be seen as the opposite. A stretch, but definitely worth examining.
 
2007-11-30 08:12:22 AM
If all else fails, there's always this:

www.tvblanket.com
 
2007-11-30 08:13:40 AM
The researchers... also found that men and women who begin having sex in their early teens had their share of problems. They were more likely to have risky sexual partners, to contract a sexually transmitted infection (STI) and to have sex while under the influence of drugs or alcohol.

CHAMP SUPERSTAR FTW!
 
2007-11-30 08:17:22 AM
NeuroticRocker: I'm 26 in less than a month.

when I was 21, I spent a couple of times with this girl, who quite frankly was a biatch.

she kept telling me that she didn't like me or even find me attractive, and she was just using me. she wouldn't let me touch her, and there was no fore or afterplay. and everytime I came, it was without orgasm, because everytime I got it up, shed insult me....however, she was impressed with my package, and that's why I was chosen I guess.

but, I had to think of other girls to finish, or even get aroused. like I said, it was always without orgasm.

the only reason I put up with it was because at that age, she was the only girl I had been naked in front of or with, and had no prior experience, except hugs.

no I'm not gay, I had a very farked up upbringing and wasn't around people until I was in my 20s, and I still have a very hard time dealing with.

so...im a reclusive loner loser, but fine with that.

almost 26 and haven't had any real experience.....i may not have physical dysfunction, but the emotional dysfunction is enough to make me physically unable to reach my potential.



If I wasn't completely disgusted by having sex with a stranger, I'd totally have sex with you.

/Theoretically, I'd be really nice about it
//hope you feel better
///one day you will find a girl who likes nerds
 
2007-11-30 08:19:37 AM
Guntram Shatterhand: nuclear_asshat: I think your looking for something that is quite obviously not there.

A stretch, but definitely worth examining.


That's what she said.

tbn0.google.com
 
2007-11-30 08:20:58 AM
Possibly, but if Republicans did really follow what they said, then wide stancing and all sorts of infidelity would never happen to Republicans at all and we know that's false. Plus, losing your virginity later in life is a sign of higher education so losing it earlier could be seen as the opposite. A stretch, but definitely worth examining.


What?!?

Where did you dig up those pretend "facts"? A sign of higher education? You've got to be kidding me. When you lose your virginity at, say, age 15, you've yet to attend Hah-vahd. Right? Or is this part of the standard liberal conceit that the unannointed unwashed masses are inferior in all respects to their superior intellects?

If higher education means you value your sexuality less or want sex less or feel that only idiots engage in sex in lieu of thinking about abstract cosmological principles, that would explain a lot of pent up frustration intellectuals and pseudo-intellectual wannabes seem to carry with them like a man-purse. If you can't reconcile the desire to bang a hot chick with your desire to read John Stuart Mill, that to me, is a sign of a mind with a severely limited ability to multi-task.

Give me Voltaire's Les Lettres Philosophiques and a smokin' hot chick and I'll show you just how compatible being well educated AND highly sexual really are. If you think anything otherwise, you're fooling yourself.
 
2007-11-30 08:22:41 AM
ambercat: she kept telling me that she didn't like me or even find me attractive, and she was just using me. she wouldn't let me touch her, and there was no fore or afterplay. and everytime I came, it was without orgasm, because everytime I got it up, shed insult me....however, she was impressed with my package, and that's why I was chosen I guess.

Something to write home about... tell Ma that you've found your true calling in life!!
vision.cs.arizona.edu

/couldn't find a circus pic...
 
2007-11-30 08:23:15 AM
LowPlainsDrifter

Actually, I forgot where the study is, but I've read that actually the more education you've attained, the better your sex life tends to be.
 
2007-11-30 08:23:22 AM
ambercat: If I wasn't completely disgusted by having sex with a stranger, I'd totally have sex with you.

/Theoretically, I'd be really nice about it
//hope you feel better
///one day you will find a girl who likes nerds


Tease
 
2007-11-30 08:25:52 AM
LowPlainsDrifter: Give me Voltaire's Les Lettres Philosophiques and a smokin' hot chick and I'll show you just how compatible being well educated AND highly sexual really are.

You can tack it to the head board so you'll have something to read while you're makin' it with the chick.. that should impress her...
 
2007-11-30 08:27:41 AM
Actually, I forgot where the study is, but I've read that actually the more education you've attained, the better your sex life tends to be.


Exactly.

It produces an open mind capable of looking at new things as a matter of course as well as helping develop a keen sense of curiosity.
 
2007-11-30 08:28:54 AM
You can tack it to the head board so you'll have something to read while you're makin' it with the chick.. that should impress her...


Hey, it's in French. If I read it aloud she'll just get turned on more.
 
2007-11-30 08:30:31 AM
Just Drawn That Way: Wow, I was in the tail end of the "late debut" range (23) and don't think it did anything but make me appreciate it more when it finally happened.

/Not religious, not a fatty, just fainted every time anyone made a move.


I started out real late (27 yrs. and I'm a guy), haven't had any problems thus far *touch wood* ... heh.

/Not sure if it was just the waiting bit.
//Used to be painfully shy;
///Also a bit unsure of my looks, but then I got farked!
 
2007-11-30 08:32:14 AM
17. Guess I'm normal
 
2007-11-30 08:32:21 AM
So we now have some science that shows that the abstinence program is actually harmful?
 
2007-11-30 08:35:57 AM
Drawist: illustri: so please, have a meaningful relationship that involves sex regardless of how it turns out

does hookers and blow count?


Yes and sometimes its better that way ;o)
 
2007-11-30 08:36:17 AM
27 here. Not for lack of want but the last 2 girls that even got as far as first base hooked up with my friends. Cursed I say.

/is it bad when a girl is willing to introduce you to blow before sex?
//"I don't do virgins, but here, let's do this line and I'll talk about all the sex I've had and flash my tits a bunch."
 
2007-11-30 08:37:43 AM
Lost mine at 15. Never saw the point in "saving it for marriage" - I certainly wouldn't want to marry a chick who was lousy in bed, and there's really only one way to find out for certain... :D

/Practice makes perfect. Lots and lots of practice.
 
2007-11-30 08:38:03 AM
OriginalGamer:

/is it bad when a girl is willing to introduce you to blow before sex?


No, most hookers are like that.
 
2007-11-30 08:38:06 AM
15. No sexual dysfunction, but roads still led me to Fark.com.

/giggity giggity.
//giggity goo.
 
2007-11-30 08:41:09 AM
Lollipop165: Lost mine at 21. Not because I couldn't do it earlier or didn't want to do it earlier (I was a horny horny girl in my teens), but I just didn't want to fark someone who I would regret a week later.

/married my first
//still a horny horny girl so no problems with that :-)


How YOU Doin'?

/Ah, you're still married.
//Not me, I'm divorced.
///Not looking, either.
 
2007-11-30 08:41:43 AM
So, apparently my sister has enabled me to have a normal sex life. I am so grateful.
 
2007-11-30 08:43:08 AM
drjekel_mrhyde: haha 13 can i has a cookie

11!

Oh wait, does another person have to be involved?
 
2007-11-30 08:43:59 AM
Oh, shiat. I'm farked.
 
2007-11-30 08:45:25 AM
FTFA: "seemed more likely to experience sexual problems that include difficulty becoming sexually aroused and reaching orgasm"

21 when I made it. 28 now. 7 times last weekend with the GF. Thank FSM I am not affected.
 
2007-11-30 08:45:39 AM
Bullshiat.
Lost it at 22. Now 52. Wife still gets 8-10 riding.
Yeeeeeeeee Haaaa!!
 
2007-11-30 08:49:56 AM
Everyone needs to forget about age and let people do what comes naturally. Who is screwing who is not news, nor is it the business of anyone other than those involved. All of you religious freaks need to step down from your soapbox and live you own life and stop judging others.
 
2007-11-30 08:51:14 AM
I lost mine at 15.

But it was in a portable toilet at a stock car race, so it was kind of a wash.
 
2007-11-30 08:52:24 AM
I never lost mine. I know exactly where it went.
 
2007-11-30 08:52:46 AM
dogfood: I lost mine at 15.

But it was in a portable toilet at a stock car race, so it was kind of a wash.


Washing in the blue water?
 
2007-11-30 08:53:42 AM
blubberknife: I like fat men wearing nappies


Good for you. Loser.
 
2007-11-30 08:55:06 AM
FTFA: "In my view as a sexuality therapist since the 1970s, the abstinence-only approach is a public health hazard," Ogden said.

Man, that's a long article. It also claims one of everything: too young = bad and too old = bad.
 
2007-11-30 08:55:07 AM
Electrify: Meanwhile, it is very rare for a girl to ask out a guy, unless he has model looks or has lots of $$$. If a guy is willing to ignore his natural and sexual desires, he could easily remain a virgin for life.

I don't have model looks and I definitely do not have mad cash, but I do get asked out or asked for my number at least once a week.

It's all in the attitude.
 
2007-11-30 08:55:34 AM
It's guess just one of those things that you gotta relax about, once you stop caring to some extent everything falls into place. But I suppose theres no telling that to a virgin. I remember when I was a kid worrying about kissing this girl and whether I fark up somehow or not. You think thats stupid but worrying about sex is probably just as silly.
What can I say, do a little reading up on it maybe try learn to be nifty with a condom/bra strap etc. and realise that mankind is full of bullshiat as far as their sexual exploits go. No your not the only dweeb out there, there are tons of losers doing far more depraved lonely shiat.
/21
//and by my most people I know where I live thats considered pathethic
 
2007-11-30 08:55:48 AM
I fantasize about being dominated by CondiDr. Rice wearing fishnets and stiletto heels. I'm sure that means I wasn't early or often enough.

/Thank you, Madame Secretary, may I have another?
 
2007-11-30 08:57:12 AM
Dumski: Bullshiat.
Lost it at 22. Now 52. Wife still gets 8-10 riding.
Yeeeeeeeee Haaaa!!



Is that the 10th of August of each year? For the whole day?

You stud!
 
2007-11-30 08:57:42 AM
dogfood: But it was in a portable toilet at a stock car race, so it was kind of a wash.

Did the backend get squirrly?
 
2007-11-30 08:58:54 AM
GungFu: Dumski: Bullshiat.
Lost it at 22. Now 52. Wife still gets 8-10 riding.
Yeeeeeeeee Haaaa!!


Is that the 10th of August of each year? For the whole day?

You stud!


That's the number of cars in the train. Toot toot!
 
2007-11-30 08:59:27 AM
Apparently I was at the end of the "late" area. Frankly, I could have been happier if I had waited until I started dating my freak GF when I was 28-- the first one was pretty lousy and had non-existent communication skills (the most important thing IMHO) and served mainly to remind me of what I wasn't doing in my mid 20's. She was just a bored friend, so it was pretty lacking all in all.

My first serious relationship was something of a mess, and while a lot of it was dysfunctional, the bedroom bit is about all we really got right-- definitely no problems with what the article says I should have had.

Perhaps sexual dysfunctions with late bloomers (or very early ones) are merely indicative of the larger mental problems of the people involved-- only looking at one data point.

If you're really late, either you're socially awkward, anti-social, or overly religious, all of which are of course going to cause problems in intimate relationships (see "Catholic guilt", ch. 3-11). Too early and you've either been taken advantage of (which will of course cause associated sexual problems later) or a crazed freak who's probably got a LOT of problems otherwise.

If you're shy and awkward, chances are it's going to be a while until you can relax and get into things, and if you fail at first, it can be a negative reinforcement that makes things worse and worse.
 
2007-11-30 09:01:03 AM
IdBeCrazyIf: Electrify: Meanwhile, it is very rare for a girl to ask out a guy, unless he has model looks or has lots of $$$. If a guy is willing to ignore his natural and sexual desires, he could easily remain a virgin for life.

I don't have model looks and I definitely do not have mad cash, but I do get asked out or asked for my number at least once a week.

It's all in the attitude.


I call shenanigans, girls generally don't ask guys out, even when they do it's usually "do you want my number?"
 
2007-11-30 09:02:52 AM
SaladMonkey: IdBeCrazyIf: Electrify: Meanwhile, it is very rare for a girl to ask out a guy, unless he has model looks or has lots of $$$. If a guy is willing to ignore his natural and sexual desires, he could easily remain a virgin for life.

I don't have model looks and I definitely do not have mad cash, but I do get asked out or asked for my number at least once a week.

It's all in the attitude.

I call shenanigans, girls generally don't ask guys out, even when they do it's usually "do you want my number?"


If you'd been following Mr. If's posting career, you wouldn't be suprised. There are social circles that do work this way, but only if you're a member. They know who each other are.

/They know I'm not
//sob
///condi... oh, condi...
 
2007-11-30 09:02:59 AM
LowPlainsDrifter: So all of humanity up until the 1960's, which counts for at least 10,000 years of history, were sexually dysfunctional because they didn't bang everything walking at age 16 then?

Aw... you think teens just started having sex in the 60's? How cute. I'm willing to bet you a case of beer that the average age has been going UP in the last few hundred years...
 
2007-11-30 09:03:17 AM
bitparity

too soon!
 
2007-11-30 09:04:26 AM
IdBeCrazyIf: I don't have model looks and I definitely do not have mad cash, but I do get asked out or asked for my number at least once a week.

SaladMonkey: I call shenanigans, girls generally don't ask guys out, even when they do it's usually "do you want my number?"

I second the decree of shenanigans.
 
2007-11-30 09:05:06 AM
sweetmelissa31: bitparity

too soon!


It may be, but the important thing to note here is

how YOU doin'?
 
2007-11-30 09:05:19 AM
Wow, and I thought I was a rare case by losing it at 21. She actually chuckled when I told her, but she was quite nice about it afterward.
And yes, sometimes, stuffs in porn movies does works.

/I share with my dad the fact that we both lost our cherries to a Belgian girl
//Also, Fark made me a better lover : one girl posted here something that really made her scream. Tried that with my girl, and boy was she thankful!
 
2007-11-30 09:05:59 AM
Zerk Schrader: Too early and you've either been taken advantage of (which will of course cause associated sexual problems later) or a crazed freak who's probably got a LOT of problems otherwise.

I started early, but it wasn't for either of those reasons. I had a girlfriend who lived within short walking distance, and who had parents who would leave us alone at home for hours at a time.
 
2007-11-30 09:09:04 AM
IdBeCrazyIf
I do get asked out or asked for my number at least once a week.

I don't think when the chick says, "Now serving number 27" qualifies as being asked for your number.
 
2007-11-30 09:13:20 AM
fredbox:
It may be, but the important thing to note here is

how YOU doin'?


I'm ok, but the important thing to note is: you met Richard Stallman? Does he really live in his office?
 
2007-11-30 09:13:42 AM
So not too early or not too late. I think 17-19 is probably the best time.

/18
 
2007-11-30 09:15:07 AM
Smarshmallow:

I started early, but it wasn't for either of those reasons. I had a girlfriend who lived within short walking distance, and who had parents who would leave us alone at home for hours at a time.


I was just being a little general and pointing out things that might prove the study concerning early adopters and sexual dysfunction, though not for their reasons or theory. Of course there are people who started quite early to no ill effect, and probably some who are actually more put-together because of it.

Hope I didn't offend by implying those were the only circumstances wherein someone would lose their virginity early.
 
2007-11-30 09:16:01 AM
Smarshmallow: IdBeCrazyIf: I don't have model looks and I definitely do not have mad cash, but I do get asked out or asked for my number at least once a week.

SaladMonkey: I call shenanigans, girls generally don't ask guys out, even when they do it's usually "do you want my number?"

I second the decree of shenanigans.


Listen it's really not that hard. Most guys are actually pretty oblivious to how often they get checked out by women on a daily basis.

yes even the lonely ass losers get looks at least once a day. Perhaps not that "I wanna ride that ass" look but at least "I think I could fix that" look.

Once you start picking up on those looks, it's really not that hard to take advantage of them. Smile back, nod, whatever make notice that you notice them.

And then ignore them.

At least on occasion from the above scenario, you'll at the very least get one to start flirting directly with you.

Although for some guys, flirting could be a 2 ton elephant in the room and they still wouldn't notice it.

fredbox: If you'd been following Mr. If's posting career, you wouldn't be suprised. There are social circles that do work this way, but only if you're a member. They know who each other are.

Even outside those circles... just this past weekend I got the clerks number while stopping for toilette paper. I kid you not, this was the conversation.

Her "Going TPing?"
Me "Depends... where do you live?"
Her "How about a number first and we can go from there"
Me "Sure thing, wanna get together with some friends of mine this weekend at the club?"
Her "...yeah.. Sure!"

And there you have it. It really is that farking easy.
 
2007-11-30 09:16:31 AM
Still waiting for that special someone.
 
2007-11-30 09:16:31 AM
padraig:
/I share with my dad the fact that we both lost our cherries to a Belgian girl


Was it the same girl?

/Sorry
//Lost mine at 16
 
2007-11-30 09:16:56 AM
dogfood: I don't think when the chick says, "Now serving number 27 6" qualifies as being asked for your number.

VIP members get first dibs at the top ten ;)
 
2007-11-30 09:17:48 AM
It's times like these I wonder if it's worth it to stay with my girl friend, who I get along with great (we play alot of video games) but has the sex drive of a frozen fish dinner.
 
2007-11-30 09:17:52 AM
sweetmelissa31: fredbox:
It may be, but the important thing to note here is

how YOU doin'?

I'm ok, but the important thing to note is: you met Richard Stallman? Does he really live in his office?


(How YOU Doin')**100!
 
2007-11-30 09:19:22 AM
sweetmelissa31: fredbox:
It may be, but the important thing to note here is

how YOU doin'?

I'm ok, but the important thing to note is: you met Richard Stallman? Does he really live in his office?


I've heard as much, didn't ask directly. He stayed in my house for a week though, pretty much confirming the stereotypes are true.

Got some wide-eyed and slightly fearful looks from FSF volunteers at the last OSCON when recounting the stories. "you've... you've... MET him?"... and these were volunteers from Boston.

But, no, seriously, how YOU doin'? You can explain properties of manifolds to me... all... night.... long...... ;)
 
2007-11-30 09:19:43 AM
Ohh yeah and to contribute. I started very early and with a much older person.

So I guess you could see starting earlier leads to sexual dysfunction depending on your relativity of dysfunction.
 
2007-11-30 09:20:51 AM
Abox: Still waiting for that special someone.

Advice from someone who did the same: Don't wait.
 
2007-11-30 09:21:15 AM
I was 21. I thought for a long time that it took so long because girls where I'm from are only attracted to Tim McGraw. However, in hindsight, I realize that I had a few opportunities, I was just beaten down so badly by all the hillbillies that I was incapable of believing that girls would like me in that way.

/finally had my first g/f when I was a senior in HS
//still not normal but getting there
 
2007-11-30 09:21:29 AM
Aw... you think teens just started having sex in the 60's? How cute. I'm willing to bet you a case of beer that the average age has been going UP in the last few hundred years...


I'm aware of people having sex early in life in the past. I should have placed that in the context of unwed sex though, now that you mention it.

And yes, before you say it, folks were having unwed sex in the past. But that was not the norm so much as the exception, once upon a time.

That said, I've nothing against the notion of having sex, not a social conservative. I just found the statement bizarre that only the unwashed unedu-ma-cated herdlings have sex at a young age while the more elite and effite snob class puts it off as rather unimportant in the scheme of life, something they may get around to eventually.
 
2007-11-30 09:24:02 AM
GungFu: blubberknife:

Just making up quotes now, eh?

Loser
 
2007-11-30 09:24:19 AM
LowPlainsDrifter: What?!?

WHERE? HOW? WHYYYYY?

Where did you dig up those pretend "facts"? A sign of higher education? You've got to be kidding me. When you lose your virginity at, say, age 15, you've yet to attend Hah-vahd. Right? Or is this part of the standard liberal conceit that the unannointed unwashed masses are inferior in all respects to their superior intellects?

I was going to answer until you started pulling the 'libtard' card there. Tsk.

If higher education means you value your sexuality less or want sex less or feel that only idiots engage in sex in lieu of thinking about abstract cosmological principles, that would explain a lot of pent up frustration intellectuals and pseudo-intellectual wannabes seem to carry with them like a man-purse. If you can't reconcile the desire to bang a hot chick with your desire to read John Stuart Mill, that to me, is a sign of a mind with a severely limited ability to multi-task.

Considering that educated people tend to see their sexuality in more responsible terms (protection, family planning), then what would be the opposite of this line of thought that pushes earlier sex for supposed benefits? The article is saying that having sex earlier is fine and notes right there that it exposes more people to STDs and such. I'm sorry, but there is a good case for Republican delusional idealism here.

Say....you don't happen to come from a town called Chastity that you painted blue, did you?
 
2007-11-30 09:25:07 AM
IdBeCrazyIf:

yes even the lonely ass losers get looks at least once a day. Perhaps not that "I wanna ride that ass" look but at least "I think I could fix that" look.

Once you start picking up on those looks, it's really not that hard to take advantage of them. Smile back, nod, whatever make notice that you notice them.


Maybe I'll try that. Oh the other hand, they may tend to shy away when they see the wedding band (or the wife sitting next to me).
 
2007-11-30 09:26:30 AM
Hetfield: Sexual initiation is much easier when you're a teen chock full with hormones that make you want to hump anything you can get your hands on. Later in life, when your view of the world and humanity is much more reality-based and the self-doubt eats away at your soul, you're much more self-conscious, and I'd guess if you haven't had any prior sexual experiences, it's really difficult to be relaxed enough to get it on without wondering if you're up to task at all.

PRS: Problably, they (ahem) become so very apt at spanking the monkey, sex just doesn't do the trick anymore.

I lost mine at 23. Not that I waited, I was very horny as a teen. I just didn't get many opportunities, and I wasted those precious few that i had. I'm not some fat geek sitting behind his keyboard, I am fit, was an infantryman in the army reserves, run 15km a few times per week, go out drinking with friends etc.

I remember making out with girls at parties when I was a teen and being rock hard for hours. Then when I has sex for the first time at 23 my dick just wouldn't get up. It was really frustrating. I just didn't know what I was supposed to do. I would wake up in to morning with a hard on, chuck the comdom on and try to have sex, but by then it was flacid.

I'm not sure what it was. Perhaps my girlfriend was not supportive enough, perhaps I am just too use to masturbating. One theory of mine is that the neurological pathways that are used in sex are laid down in the teens, just like those for vision are laid down in early childhood. If you blindfold a child until he or she is 10, then the neurological pathways for vision will not have been laid. The child will be blind. Maybe sex is like that.
 
2007-11-30 09:26:47 AM
Abox: Still waiting for that special someone.

Sex is like any other skill, the more teachers you have, the better you'll be. If you wait until the "special someone," then you'll have nothing new to bring to the table.
 
2007-11-30 09:28:42 AM
Raw_fishFood [TotalFark] Quote 2007-11-30 09:17:48 AM
It's times like these I wonder if it's worth it to stay with my girl friend, who I get along with great (we play alot of video games) but has the sex drive of a frozen fish dinner.


Uh, probably not. I'd say either talk with her and see if she's really disinterested, or she might just be too reserved to express herself for whatever reason. She might be better as a friend, which can be extremely rewarding without the sexual aspect (my closest friends are girls who I've never done anything with and never will-- but I would lop an arm off if they really needed me to do it).

I play a lot of video games with my GF, but that's not the reason why I tear over to her house at midnight.

Go find an outgoing and odd nerdy girl. They're great.

(end of useless advice from random, unqualified internet person)
 
2007-11-30 09:29:20 AM
Smarshmallow: Abox: Still waiting for that special someone.

Sex is like any other skill, the more teachers you have, the better you'll be. If you wait until the "special someone," then you'll have nothing new to bring to the table.


Riiiiiiiiight.
 
2007-11-30 09:30:21 AM
Mr Logo: I remember making out with girls at parties when I was a teen and being rock hard for hours. Then when I has sex for the first time at 23 my dick just wouldn't get up. It was really frustrating. I just didn't know what I was supposed to do. I would wake up in to morning with a hard on, chuck the comdom on and try to have sex, but by then it was flacid.

Blame poor biology. Erection is a parasympathetic response (i.e., the opposite of excitatory), so the more nervous/excited, the more likely that you'll to soft. Climaxing, on the other hand, is a sympathetic response (excitatory). What this means is that if you're overly nervous, not only is it very possible that you won't get it up, but if you do, those nerves will probably cause you to finish early.
 
2007-11-30 09:30:46 AM
people just aren't biologically built to wait until they're out of college. I don't know if the article proves any causal relationship, but still... 10 years between puberty and your first time is just biologically unintended.

You can say that some people aren't mature enough for sexual responsibility until they're out of their teens, but I think that just shows that we're just not teaching our kids to grow up like we used to.
 
2007-11-30 09:32:32 AM
Smarshmallow: Maybe I'll try that. Oh the other hand, they may tend to shy away when they see the wedding band (or the wife sitting next to me).

Although every now and then you get the ones who don't give a shiat and will openly flirt in front of your SO.

ipsofacto: Smarshmallow: Abox: Still waiting for that special someone.

Sex is like any other skill, the more teachers you have, the better you'll be. If you wait until the "special someone," then you'll have nothing new to bring to the table.

Riiiiiiiiight.


Nah this is pretty much the case.

I can tell right away how experienced a woman is in bed pretty quickly.
 
2007-11-30 09:33:39 AM
IdBeCrazyIf:
It's all in the attitude.


You mean being a smarmy prick? I keed! I keed!
I find that I have very bizarre taste in men. I tend to see through looks...unless of course they're a disgusting fatty.
 
2007-11-30 09:34:19 AM
I'm a 30 year old virgin I don't like the looks of my future.
 
2007-11-30 09:34:54 AM
I call bullshiat


sexual disfunction is not some kind of curable disease... it is an inability to be honest with yourself.

it is a symptom of mental trauma either from others, your church or yourself.

it has nothing to do with actually getting farked a some time later in life, in fact you CAN'T be "sexually disfunctional" unless you're doing it WRONG which you can't do if you're not doing it.

so the entire concept placed forth in the article is wrong.
 
2007-11-30 09:36:27 AM

I was going to answer until you started pulling the 'libtard' card there. Tsk.


Tsk. You pulled the "it's a Republican conspiracy" card first, bro. Don't deal it if you can't take it, mmmkay?

Considering that educated people tend to see their sexuality in more responsible terms (protection, family planning), then what would be the opposite of this line of thought that pushes earlier sex for supposed benefits?


Educated people most certainly do not think that way. Some do. Many don't, as "educated" does not necessarily mean "intelligent", no matter what they tell you in college. People with *common sense* may see it this way, yes, but common sense is not necessarily a by product of a formal education. And last check a lot of the blue collar unwashed heathen types out there posses far more common sense than your average corporate MBA.

The article is saying that having sex earlier is fine and notes right there that it exposes more people to STDs and such. I'm sorry, but there is a good case for Republican delusional idealism here.


As somebody else said, you're seeing words there that are simply not present. Take off the ideological glasses and you may well find that generally speaking it is the liberal types that push for all kinds of sexual experimentation and exploration when kids are still kids. Not that republicans aren't dorks themselves, they're just hypocrites about it and wouldn't dare breath a word about "hey, have sex early and often!". Dems/liberals are right out front, handing out condoms and instruction manuals on entering into beastiality to 13 year olds and telling them to have fun.


Say....you don't happen to come from a town called Chastity that you painted blue, did you?


Why no, not at all. Nothing wrong with having sex when you feel comfortable with it and your body is ready for the experience. The article or the studies it reports on are not a "republican plot" to force kids to have early sex. The last thing Republicans seem to want is their daughters and sons having underage sex.

But then, I'm not viewing the study with ideological glasses on either.
 
2007-11-30 09:37:37 AM
Does 22 count?
 
2007-11-30 09:38:07 AM
johnny_q:
people just aren't biologically built to wait until they're out of college. I don't know if the article proves any causal relationship, but still... 10 years between puberty and your first time is just biologically unintended.

You can say that some people aren't mature enough for sexual responsibility until they're out of their teens, but I think that just shows that we're just not teaching our kids to grow up like we used to.


Quoted for truth.
 
2007-11-30 09:39:41 AM
westbound pachyderm: You mean being a smarmy prick? I keed! I keed!
I find that I have very bizarre taste in men. I tend to see through looks...unless of course they're a disgusting fatty.


well oddly enough though smarmy pricks do pretty well in the pick up department as well.

But I think we all can agree one one thing.

No fatties
 
2007-11-30 09:42:48 AM
IdBeCrazyIf:

well oddly enough though smarmy pricks do pretty well in the pick up department as well.


Haha! John Fitzgerald Page would like to have a word with you.

But I think we all can agree one one thing.

No fatties


Hell yeah! And nothing more heinous than a two-bagger!
 
2007-11-30 09:42:49 AM
NeuroticRocker: she kept telling me that she didn't like me or even find me attractive, and she was just using me. she wouldn't let me touch her, and there was no fore or afterplay. and everytime I came, it was without orgasm

Interesting thread, and then this guy posts... I'm not sure on the statistics, but I think it's pretty damn rare for guys to consistently ejaculate without orgasm. While I know it can happen often for women, and in some women, that's the case every time, I think it's pretty damn rare to happen to guys (and in fact, dry orgasms are much more common in men than vice versa).

So, yeah, I'm not sure why you posted that depressing story, but I think you're full of it. And if you're actually telling the truth, then the other guy who called you a loser is probably spot on. Nobody's fault but your own for staying with her in a verbally/emotionally abusive relationship.
 
2007-11-30 09:42:50 AM
LowPlainsDrifter: johnny_q:
people just aren't biologically built to wait until they're out of college. I don't know if the article proves any causal relationship, but still... 10 years between puberty and your first time is just biologically unintended.

You can say that some people aren't mature enough for sexual responsibility until they're out of their teens, but I think that just shows that we're just not teaching our kids to grow up like we used to.


Quoted for truth.


Cultural mores play a big role in this as well ... in quite a few Asian countries, you'd be considered a slut/man-whore, if you had sex before marriage. Nowadays, people with a good educational background prefer to get married in their late 20s or early 30s (for males - mid 20s for females?), when they have a pretty high paying job/stable career. If you look at this scenario, they're all seriously farked according to your reasoning.
 
2007-11-30 09:43:36 AM
padraig:
//Also, Fark made me a better lover : one girl posted here something that really made her scream. Tried that with my girl, and boy was she thankful!

Please share.
 
2007-11-30 09:44:01 AM
IdBeCrazyIf
But I think we all can agree one one thing.

No fatties



Unless they are covered in Sour cream.

i36.photobucket.com
 
2007-11-30 09:44:02 AM
westbound pachyderm: IdBeCrazyIf:
It's all in the attitude.

You mean being a smarmy prick? I keed! I keed!


Its more common than you think.
 
2007-11-30 09:45:48 AM
Smarshmallow: Abox: Still waiting for that special someone.

Sex is like any other skill, the more teachers you have, the better you'll be. If you wait until the "special someone," then you'll have nothing new to bring to the table.


I didn't say I wasn't having sex, I'm just waiting for that special someone.

/still not bringing anything new to the table
//likes the classics
 
2007-11-30 09:46:55 AM
Cultural mores play a big role in this as well ... in quite a few Asian countries, you'd be considered a slut/man-whore, if you had sex before marriage. Nowadays, people with a good educational background prefer to get married in their late 20s or early 30s (for males - mid 20s for females?), when they have a pretty high paying job/stable career. If you look at this scenario, they're all seriously farked according to your reasoning.


So you assume they don't have sex until they're married then? Really?
 
2007-11-30 09:49:11 AM
fredbox: Its more common than you think.

Smarmy Pricks in a vagina?

It could be common than you think.

dogfood: Unless they are covered in Sour cream.

I'll need chives... lots and lots of chives.

GalFisk: padraig:
//Also, Fark made me a better lover : one girl posted here something that really made her scream. Tried that with my girl, and boy was she thankful!
Please share.


I wish it had never gotten deleted but long time ago there was a thread about the G spot. And this girl who posted there who claimed it didn't exist.

In any event a few girls and many guys were muchly edumicated about the benefits of this wondrous location.

/the farkers, they be learnings
 
2007-11-30 09:49:54 AM
FTA: For women, she said, the message that "good girls" should not engage in or enjoy sex may cause women to shut down sexually, leading to dysfunction.

Guess someone's idea of 'good girl' differs from mine...

/oh yeah, just like that, that's a goooood girl...
//puppies & peanut butter
 
2007-11-30 09:50:59 AM
westbound pachyderm: IdBeCrazyIf:

well oddly enough though smarmy pricks do pretty well in the pick up department as well.

Haha! John Fitzgerald Page would like to have a word with you.



Ahh, JFP. Is there ANY thread you can't be in?

/late bloomer myself, but I made up for it
 
2007-11-30 09:52:01 AM
I only have sex with married chicks.
 
2007-11-30 09:52:11 AM
westbound pachyderm: I find that I have very bizarre taste in men. I tend to see through looks...

You and me both; I've always expressed it as the guy 'transmogrifying' into an attractive male based on his attitude & deportment (charm, confidence, intelligence, respect/courtesy), plus details like if the pheromones are appealing. If I like what I see, then I 'see' it as 'attractive', and to hell with what anybody else thinks.

My husband is no movie star (objectively speaking - neither am I!), but he has confidence in spades, his smile goes all the way to his eyes, he has a knack for focusing his attention on a person, and his natural scent drives me wild.

/lost my virginity at 19 - just under the wire, apparently
//techdad's was earlier, but no dysfunction
///at all
////!!
 
2007-11-30 09:56:06 AM
Losing your virginity later in life leads to sexual dysfunction? Nevermind those extraneous variables in the corner; I'm sure trouble being intimate and difficulty becoming aroused never delay a deflowering.

// Started playing the game earlier than you think
 
2007-11-30 09:56:14 AM
techmom:
Ramen to that!

IdBeCrazyIf:
Smarmy Pricks in a vagina?


It's douchier than you think.

mab1823:
I'm doing it for the lulz...=)
 
2007-11-30 09:56:30 AM
Yep, just drop that age of consent back to 13.. ease the pressure on the prisons save some taxpayer dollars and help all those youngsters keep from becoming dysfunctional... Now you see, this is a win win for everyone. nuff said.
 
2007-11-30 09:56:30 AM
Does being molested count? 'Cause if so, I've got you all beat by a long shot...

/ya rly
//not dysfunctional, but definitely twisted
 
2007-11-30 09:57:15 AM
mab1823: Ahh, JFP. Is there ANY thread you can't be in?

There is of course, no thread that Honey Fitz cannot be in.
 
2007-11-30 09:57:22 AM
IdBeCrazyIf: dogfood: But it was in a portable toilet at a stock car race, so it was kind of a wash.

Did the backend get squirrly?


It was tight in, loose out.
 
2007-11-30 09:57:30 AM
So... my friend wants to know exactly when that bell curve comes down again. I mean, is there a time, let's say after 40, hypothetically, that it's a good time again to devirginize?

Cuz, my friend would appreciate knowing that.
 
2007-11-30 09:58:10 AM
Hetfield: Damn. I never knew Fark.com was such a sad place. Apparently, this is where hope and dreams come to die.

Dreams make great compost, BTW.
 
2007-11-30 09:58:24 AM
IdBeCrazyIf: well oddly enough though smarmy pricks do pretty well in the pick up department as well.

I've always suspected that many women mistake bravado, braggodocio or just 'copping an attitude' for confidence. Smarmy pricks get nowhere with me (I tend to react negatively to an excess of charm - like Brylcreem, a little dab'll do ya).

Quiet confidence? Oooooh, lemme at 'im.
 
2007-11-30 09:59:44 AM
IdBeCrazyIf: mab1823: Ahh, JFP. Is there ANY thread you can't be in?

There is of course, no thread that Honey Fitz cannot be in.


Herr Douchenbagger has been pretty quiet lately...isn't he due for another go-down-in-flames episode?
 
2007-11-30 10:00:33 AM
19 for me; was with a girl for 3 years prior to that, so it was definately considered much earlier, but never went there with her. BEST CHOICE EVER. she turned out to be the most neurotic mess of a person i've ever known.
 
2007-11-30 10:01:05 AM
One Million: Dysfunction? That guy has plenty of wood.

that girlie has back dimples. GOD I love back dimples.

/like to call 'em 'thumb pods™'

 
2007-11-30 10:01:19 AM
Already Disturbed: I only have sex with married chicks.

Me too.

/my wife counts right?
 
2007-11-30 10:02:08 AM
for all the late bloomers, a solution, based on a tried and true maxim. " If it floats, flys or farks, it is cheaper to rent"

there you go, problem solved. Get out this weekend, and get a rental.
 
2007-11-30 10:02:29 AM
They may be onto something. I know a few folks male and female who didn't lose their virginity until well into their 20s, and every single one of them has at least some level of hangup about sex. Of course, the hang up may have been why they waited int he first place.

On the other hand, I suspect there may be a specific window of opportunity. I know a few folks who lost it at like 12, and they aren't terribly normal, either.

Guess I'm the only normal one.

(Batman & Little Mermaid costumes, circus music and a taco bar are normal, right?)
 
2007-11-30 10:03:50 AM
eggrolls: They may be onto something. I know a few folks male and female who didn't lose their virginity until well into their 20s, and every single one of them has at least some level of hangup about sex. Of course, the hang up may have been why they waited int he first place.

On the other hand, I suspect there may be a specific window of opportunity. I know a few folks who lost it at like 12, and they aren't terribly normal, either.

Guess I'm the only normal one.

(Batman & Little Mermaid costumes, circus music and a taco bar are normal, right?)


What? No spatula? You are weird, pervert
 
2007-11-30 10:04:00 AM
wallypod: 27 and counting. somebody please put me out of my misery

You know what your problem is? Your putting the p... on a pedestal.
 
2007-11-30 10:05:20 AM
hamster.powered: 19 for me; was with a girl for 3 years prior to that, so it was definately considered much earlier, but never went there with her. BEST CHOICE EVER. she turned out to be the most neurotic mess of a person i've ever known.

Sure you had nothing to do with it... j/k
 
2007-11-30 10:06:23 AM
Reading this thread, I don't know whether to laugh or cry...
 
2007-11-30 10:06:47 AM
I weep for my poor 26 year old virgin friend.

/Poor guy.
//And he's in a band. WTF!?!
 
2007-11-30 10:07:40 AM
I'm 20 and still a virgin, but that article makes it sound I'm a virgin by choice.

I can't figure out how to charm a woman. no matter what i do they hates me, and I'm not even fat
 
2007-11-30 10:07:51 AM
www.posterwire.com
 
2007-11-30 10:08:40 AM
mab1823: Herr Douchenbagger has been pretty quiet lately...isn't he due for another go-down-in-flames episode?

Soon... you can't rush greatness though.
 
2007-11-30 10:09:15 AM
Have you seen this?
i4.tinypic.com
If not, now you have, and I'll tell you what:

I equate nothing canine with the first girl I hooked up with, but I relate to the sense of awesomeness this guy feels. I will further clarify that I never, ever, thought of her as a pet or any negative BS one can think up, and don't relate her to a dog in any way, but am only reiterating how super-awesome I feel about her to this day--if there was a "my girlfriend" version of this poster I'd have used it.

This girl was so awesomely pretty, and did such a good job of teaching, and really liked me, and was foreign and exotic...I can't say enough good stuff about her.

The very thought of her makes me happy to this day. Was she some kind of pervert? Maybe, but for me that just makes her more fantastic. I swear to God I'm chuckling out loud right now thinking about how lucky I am to have met this woman when I did.
 
2007-11-30 10:09:15 AM
Hetfield: ArtemisGoldfish: Interesting, and it brings up a few good points. NAWT. (Didn't RTFA)

/18
//Bi
///Lost virginity a week ago to a guy.

How you doin'?


WOOOOOOO!

/comedy
//loves it
 
2007-11-30 10:09:31 AM
bastaroid: I'm 20 and still a virgin, but that article makes it sound I'm a virgin by choice.

I can't figure out how to charm a woman. no matter what i do they hates me, and I'm not even fat


Chances are you probably already know a girl who would fark you in a second.

She may not be your dream girl, but take her to a party, get drunk, and get it over with. Don't lie to her though, unless you want an emotional wreck.
 
2007-11-30 10:11:38 AM
bastaroid: I can't figure out how to charm a woman. no matter what i do they hates me, and I'm not even fat

You just need a good wingman that's all.
 
2007-11-30 10:12:08 AM
Seventeen. You ready.
 
2007-11-30 10:13:08 AM
Raw_fishFood: It's times like these I wonder if it's worth it to stay with my girl friend, who I get along with great (we play alot of video games) but has the sex drive of a frozen fish dinner.

QFT

Good girls are hard to find.
 
2007-11-30 10:13:23 AM
drjekel_mrhyde: MorningBreath: 14, on my first date. I got it out of the way as fast as I could.

haha 13 can i has a cookie


Gods, I feel even more like a deviant now.

/...8.
//in my defense, it was in Spain and during the 80s
///to one of the cleaning lady's daughters in the TDY housing
 
2007-11-30 10:14:50 AM
FTFA

The researchers, who looked at data from the 1996 National Sexual Health Survey, conducted by the Center for AIDS Prevention Studies (CAPS) at the University of California, San Francisco

This survey was done of folks who took a sexual health survey for an Aids prevention study

that could HARDLY induce some one to lie down their sexuality

"From a clinical standpoint, there are often dynamics other than the desire to be abstinent until marriage, such as fear of intimacy, body image problems, alcohol and drug abuse, and sexual dysfunction," he said. He adds that these factors "might influence the delay of sexual debut as a means of avoiding sexual issues."

well CLINICALLY you didn't examine any of these things you did a Statistical analysis... so really all your study is doing is saying "Hey look at these numbers over here without any context"

I wish I could get published in JAMA with suck shoddy work

The researchers say this preliminary evidence may point up detrimental effects of abstinence-only education.

O'RLY?

who looked at data from the 1996 National Sexual Health Survey

well thats funny the first time abstinence only education got restored was in 1994 (prior to that point it was in Legal hell in courts)

This entitlement program, Section 510(b) of Title V of the Social Security Act, funneled $50 million per year for five years into the states. Those states that choose to accept Section 510(b) funds are required to match every four federal dollars with three state-raised dollars and then disperse the funds for educational activities.[5]

Programs that use the funds are required to adhere to a strict eight-point definition, which, among other things, requires them to teach that "sexual activity outside of marriage is likely to have harmful psychological and physical effects."[6] (The complete definition is on page 11.) The section 510(b) abstinence-only-until-marriage funds are up for reauthorization in 2001.


So.... yeah Not so sure that casual link is what you think it is since Abstinence Only programs didn't have a critical mass at the time of the statistics you were using.

AND without breaking down where the people are from we further can't make that leap... but you said *cough*

"Our results do not allow for causal interpretations," the study authors write.
 
2007-11-30 10:15:21 AM
bastaroid: I can't figure out how to charm a woman. no matter what i do they hates me, and I'm not even fat

I doubt they universally 'hates' you; it may be that you haven't made yourself noticed (in a positive way, anyway), or that you're shooting for the wrong type.

For instance: if you were a gamer geek, shy and better able to converse about WOW rather than the hottest DJs in town, then maybe you should be looking for someone more approachable than the high-maintenance sorority sisters at the club.

Women aren't all looking for the same sort of 'charm'. Maybe you need to change your approach (not that I know what that is - beyond the fact that you say it isn't working).
 
2007-11-30 10:18:32 AM
I am waiting for Love, but since Love does not exist. I will not engage in any sexual activity.
 
2007-11-30 10:20:32 AM
IdBeCrazyIf: mab1823: Herr Douchenbagger has been pretty quiet lately...isn't he due for another go-down-in-flames episode?

Soon... you can't rush greatness though.


Have you seen the T-shirts he has for sale? Trying to capitilize off of his douchebaggery. I like the sales pitch best:

T-shirts: White.
Sizes: XL only - just like my ego.
Price: $20.
 
2007-11-30 10:21:02 AM
What Techmom said... I'm not Mr. Ladies man but I've found some ladies like what I have in "personality/Charm/Character" and aims for that

Problem is of course other geeks USUALLY beat me to the game
 
2007-11-30 10:22:11 AM
danic101: I am waiting for Love, but since Love does not exist. I will not engage in any sexual activity.

Love exists.
 
2007-11-30 10:23:07 AM
luckybastard: bastaroid: I'm 20 and still a virgin, but that article makes it sound I'm a virgin by choice.

I can't figure out how to charm a woman. no matter what i do they hates me, and I'm not even fat

Chances are you probably already know a girl who would fark you in a second.

She may not be your dream girl, but take her to a party, get drunk, and get it over with. Don't lie to her though, unless you want an emotional wreck.


IdBeCrazyIf: You just need a good wingman that's all.

bastaroid, I just came to second both of these. This is 100% true. If you have a good wingman he will find the friend that wants for fark you in no time.
 
2007-11-30 10:23:09 AM
Love exists.

THIS

Love may some times be all kinds of Suck but it is real
 
2007-11-30 10:25:23 AM
Who Is John Galt

Ya see none of my friends are good Wingmen.... Maybe thats some of my problems

I had a friend try to wingman for me... but he FAILED to tell me he was doin so and when I confusedly interacted with a girl and didn't make the move he made a "well I tried to help" comment to other friends

the Douchiest part... he never told me when he did this for me... So I know farkall about who the woman was

/drives me Batty when I am around him
//He denies it to
 
2007-11-30 10:27:31 AM
I'm serious[ly late] with this open query but: what do you farkers consider to be the point in which a person is no longer a virgin.

Are you of the mindset that actual penetration and orgasm/ejaculation/reaching-of-some-self-defined-end-stage need occur before the title "virginity" can be be referred to in the past tense?
 
2007-11-30 10:28:15 AM
self_deprived_of_sleep: I'm serious[ly late] with this open query but: what do you farkers consider to be the point in which a person is no longer a virgin.

After a good skullfarking, you're no longer a virgin.
 
2007-11-30 10:28:31 AM
I didn't wait too long, it just took me a while to find the right midget.
 
2007-11-30 10:28:54 AM
techmom: I doubt they universally 'hates' you; it may be that you haven't made yourself noticed (in a positive way, anyway), or that you're shooting for the wrong type.

For instance: if you were a gamer geek, shy and better able to converse about WOW rather than the hottest DJs in town, then maybe you should be looking for someone more approachable than the high-maintenance sorority sisters at the club.

Women aren't all looking for the same sort of 'charm'. Maybe you need to change your approach (not that I know what that is - beyond the fact that you say it isn't working).


This and rims and all that.
 
2007-11-30 10:28:57 AM
kliq: Guntram Shatterhand: nuclear_asshat: I think your looking for something that is quite obviously not there.

A stretch, but definitely worth examining.

That's what she said.


img406.imageshack.us

High five!
 
2007-11-30 10:29:33 AM
beelzebubba76: Cultural mores play a big role in this as well ... in quite a few Asian countries, you'd be considered a slut/man-whore, if you had sex before marriage. Nowadays, people with a good educational background prefer to get married in their late 20s or early 30s (for males - mid 20s for females?), when they have a pretty high paying job/stable career. If you look at this scenario, they're all seriously farked according to your reasoning.

Yes, in many cultures/religions, it's very wrong to have sex before marriage. But when those rules were made, it was the norm to get married in your teens.

Nowadays, people with a good educational background prefer to get married in their late 20s because our society demands that you get out of college before you're financially capable of supporting a family, and our society isn't teaching good social maturity/responsibility until after high school.

So, yeah, we're all seriously farked - biologically, we're supposed to be ready much sooner, but socially we're not being prepared until much later.

Is there a problem with my reasoning here?
 
2007-11-30 10:29:34 AM
Are you of the mindset that actual penetration and orgasm/ejaculation/reaching-of-some-self-defined-end-stage need occur before the title "virginity" can be be referred to in the past tense?

*ME* I define Virginity is when you have your bodily fluids/Receive Bodily fluids from another person into an Orifice
 
2007-11-30 10:29:46 AM
I know I left my virginity laying right around here somewhere...
 
2007-11-30 10:30:17 AM
img100.imageshack.us

/approves
 
2007-11-30 10:30:53 AM
first "in" should = "at"

Oh, and mentally add a "?" somewhere near the end of that first line of characters for no good reason, while you're at it.
 
2007-11-30 10:31:40 AM
techmom: Have you seen the T-shirts he has for sale? Trying to capitilize off of his douchebaggery. I like the sales pitch best:

T-shirts: White.
Sizes: XL only - just like my ego.
Price: $20.


I need a link..stat

karasoth: Are you of the mindset that actual penetration and orgasm/ejaculation/reaching-of-some-self-defined-end-stage need occur before the title "virginity" can be be referred to in the past tense?

*ME* I define Virginity is when you have your bodily fluids/Receive Bodily fluids from another person into an Orifice


Wife and I are in agreement. The minute any sorta genitals are in play is the minute you've effectively lost your virginity.

So oral sex is in.
 
2007-11-30 10:31:43 AM
jonny_q


I call a flag on your play. PROBLEM is (using this country as an example) when you got married in your early teens you were expected to be a functional adult.

in todays country most people in their 20s are not functional adults and even some folks in their 30s so its not the same thing
 
2007-11-30 10:31:58 AM
lost it at 18 to my highschool gf... she was a virgin too, then she loved to much became a whore and cheated on me...

next gf was married previously and loved sex, so about 30 times a week, ya rly... but as someone with that appetite will do, cheated on again...

sex improves and ruins lives at the same time

(someone throw up pic of spartan cheerleaders from snl for me with line "dont sex-a-bate, masturbate"
 
2007-11-30 10:31:58 AM
getting married summer 08. still a virgin, as is hubby-to-be. waiting until the wedding night.

/not sure if we'll make it
//so excited for sex
///seriously, so excited.
 
2007-11-30 10:32:06 AM
Can you Prove Love Exists? Beyond a chemical attraction to Pheremones.
 
2007-11-30 10:33:09 AM
IdBeCrazyIf: GalFisk: padraig:
//Also, Fark made me a better lover : one girl posted here something that really made her scream. Tried that with my girl, and boy was she thankful!
Please share.


With the girl on her back, put your forefinger and middle finger in her vagina, with your palm facing upward. Then flex your fingers in a "come over here" manner. Repeat as necessary. For added bonus, use your tongue on her clitoris at the same time.
The first time I did it, I suddenly had to close my window because I did not want the neighbors to call the cops on me, because of the screams she did.
 
2007-11-30 10:33:13 AM
hamster.powered: 19 for me; was with a girl for 3 years prior to that, so it was definately considered much earlier, but never went there with her. BEST CHOICE EVER. she turned out to be the most neurotic mess of a person i've ever known.

Her: "I was with this guy for THREE YEARS and he never made a move. Am I that unattractive? What's wrong with me?"

/Just sayin'
 
2007-11-30 10:34:25 AM
self_deprived_of_sleep: I'm serious[ly late] with this open query but: what do you farkers consider to be the point in which a person is no longer a virgin.

Are you of the mindset that actual penetration and orgasm/ejaculation/reaching-of-some-self-defined-end-stage need occur before the title "virginity" can be be referred to in the past tense?


That's a toughie; a girl can engage in lots of activities while eschewing vaginal penetration - I wouldn't count that as being a virgin, but it doesn't mean that she knows anything about her own sexuality, either (especially if she's giving gratification, not receiving).
 
2007-11-30 10:35:51 AM
techmom

Ya see I wouldn't say loss of Virginity and knowing how you work down there are the same thing

lots of trial and error
 
2007-11-30 10:36:07 AM
Is it true that if you don't use it, you lose it?
 
2007-11-30 10:36:33 AM
I've always thought of virginity as involving actual intercourse, not oral.

But those were largely interchangeable back when I was that age. Nowadays, I guess blowjobs are like handshakes or something.
 
2007-11-30 10:36:39 AM
If a smaller dependence on sex for arousal is sexual dysfunction, is it still a bad thing?
 
2007-11-30 10:40:04 AM
mrtron: Good Sane girls are hard to find.

FTFY
 
2007-11-30 10:40:16 AM
Was 20 when I lost mine. I frequently lied to my slutty friends and to this day they think I was a slut too.

/semi-dysfunctional, but in a good way
 
2007-11-30 10:40:39 AM
padraig: With the girl on her back, put your forefinger and middle finger in her vagina, with your palm facing upward. Then flex your fingers in a "come over here" manner. Repeat as necessary. For added bonus, use your tongue on her clitoris at the same time.

Isn't that the G-spot?
 
2007-11-30 10:42:31 AM
mrtron: Good Sane girls are hard to find.

FTFY


SECONDed
 
2007-11-30 10:42:54 AM
Heh,

Lost mine at 19 in college, in the bed directly beneath my roomates bed. While he was in bed and asleap. Heh, she didnt mind. (She was visiting from VATech).

For all you farkers out there that are complaining about your women not having enough sex drive, you need to understand something. Womans sexual peak is in the late 20's through their late 30's or early 40's. Mens sexual peak is basically at 18 to 25.

I've been married now for 8 months. I starting dating my wife in college 6 years ago. At first we didnt have that much sex in fact I had to fly her ass to Japan for vacation just to get in her pants the first time, but the point is that we didnt have much sex because she felt bad about pre-marital sex, and didnt want to be a slut, etc, etc. the moral and belief systems are strong in some young women (the good ones anyway).

But the MAIN point is that almost the SECOND we were out of college and all grows up she started rapin me like 4 times a day. We're married now and both 27, i have to seriosly beat her off on a daily basis, and i still get farked 8-10 times a week. Its all i can do to keep up.


Sexual maturity differences in males and females, why dont they coincide? Nature sure is evil.


/Not that i'm complaining
//Love every minute of my "problem" (not a bad problem to have i know)
///Almost time for my lunch quickie?
 
2007-11-30 10:45:00 AM
IdBeCrazyIf: I need a link..stat

From our favourite douchebag's own website: Ta-dah!


danic101: Can you Prove Love Exists? Beyond a chemical attraction to Pheremones.

No, I can't. Most of the truly worthwhile things in life are not quantifiable in that way.

How long can 'a chemical attraction to pheromones' last? Biologically speaking, that has long since fulfilled its purpose, since our 3 children are grown and healthy. And yet, here we are after almost 23 years together - he still sings me silly love songs (off-key), he still makes my heart beat a little faster when he smiles at me in that certain way, and while there are other men I've been tempted to sleep with (temptation successfully resisted, thankyouverymuch), there is no man on the face of this planet who I'd rather wake up to.

I call that love; you may call it whatever you wish.
 
2007-11-30 10:45:40 AM
kiam

8-10 times a week... thats not a lot. Unless you have scheduling issues

only so many hours in the day and all that
 
2007-11-30 10:47:15 AM
techmom: IdBeCrazyIf: I need a link..stat

From our favourite douchebag's own website: Ta-dah!


danic101: Can you Prove Love Exists? Beyond a chemical attraction to Pheremones.

No, I can't. Most of the truly worthwhile things in life are not quantifiable in that way.

How long can 'a chemical attraction to pheromones' last? Biologically speaking, that has long since fulfilled its purpose, since our 3 children are grown and healthy. And yet, here we are after almost 23 years together - he still sings me silly love songs (off-key), he still makes my heart beat a little faster when he smiles at me in that certain way, and while there are other men I've been tempted to sleep with (temptation successfully resisted, thankyouverymuch), there is no man on the face of this planet who I'd rather wake up to.

I call that love; you may call it whatever you wish.


Awwww Techmom, you are my favorite farker, hands down.
 
2007-11-30 10:47:30 AM
I lost my virginity to your mum.

/or your mum lost her virginity to me ?
 
2007-11-30 10:47:48 AM
McManus_brothers: Isn't that the G-spot?

Probably. What matters is that it works. On her, anyway.
 
2007-11-30 10:48:02 AM
Saoilsinn: getting married summer 08. still a virgin, as is hubby-to-be. waiting until the wedding night.

/not sure if we'll make it
//so excited for sex
///seriously, so excited.


....this could end bad

/just saying
 
2007-11-30 10:50:13 AM
karasoth: Ya see I wouldn't say loss of Virginity and knowing how you work down there are the same thing

Nor would I, but in the context of TFA it makes a little more sense. I think. All that 'causal relationship' stuff: 'you are sexually disfunctional because you started late', or 'you started late because of that little sexual disfunction problem you have.'

/it's Friday
//no want think more
///beer?
 
2007-11-30 10:51:01 AM
I was 18 when I lost mine (it was very stereotypical. backseat of his car on prom night.)
But, it wasn't enjoyable. I was afraid I'd never get laid because I'd never really had a boyfriend before, so I just took the first chance I got. Wish I'd waited.

//at least my current boyfriend thinks I'm hot
 
2007-11-30 10:51:01 AM
still looking for an outgoing nerdy girl who *isnt* fat

i know they exist
i've seen them before, last tiem was like my freshman year of college. THan whooosh they vanished.

I'm really looking for a nerdy girl, becoming so desperate that I might go join a D&D group to pick up chicks :P (I hate D&D)

Thatsa bad idea, however;

/they're just rare in jersey
/or get overshadowed by all teh trash :/
 
2007-11-30 10:53:06 AM
karasoth 2007-11-30 10:29:34 AM

*ME* I define Virginity is when you have your bodily fluids/Receive Bodily fluids from another person into an Orifice


So, if I had sex and used a condom at 15 y/o, but went in raw at 20 y/o, then I lost my virginity at 20?

If I recieved a blowjob and shot on her face or somewhere, but no sex, then I am still a virgin, and she is too, right?

I call shenanigans. When you perform a sex act you are not a virgin anymore. A blowjob means at least the guy is having sex, or getting off sexually. So, the guy is not a virgin. The girl lost her mouth virginity, if there is a thing. But the little precious snowflake ain't pure anymore.

I know this is true because guys high five each other after they get their first blowjob, and the girl gets labeled a slut automatically, if she's not your girlfriend. Kid logic pure and simple.

As an aside, I wonder if theres a porn site where virgins give blowjobs? Could be an interesting niche market...
 
2007-11-30 10:53:17 AM
techmom

well the study is a statistical analysis of folks researching about Aids and STDs... so some people may have lied down their sex role out of embarrassment and -thus- lead to the presumed pattern of dysfunction
 
2007-11-30 10:54:09 AM
i'm a fat nerdy girl. we have good personalities, larsinio. I promise.

I'd say to go no bigger than a size 16. Girls bigger than that tend to have really bad self esteem issues. I know I did, until i lost some weight.
 
2007-11-30 10:54:13 AM
karasoth 2007-11-30 10:45:40 AM
kiam

8-10 times a week... thats not a lot. Unless you have scheduling issues

only so many hours in the day and all that


I work 10-12 hour days and she's a realtor (meaning she usually goes to work when i get off work since most people buying houses work during the day and search for homes after work). And trust me, if i wasn't such a lousy no-good wuss with no energy, that number would be more like 20-30 times a week. But alas, my wee-wee probably couldnt take it. Gawd i wish she had that sex drive in college when i could do it once an hour every day.

Oh, and its not like its 8-10 quickies either, those don't count. I'm only counting the ones where we get down to biddness. Those usually take 1-3 hours.

So if you do the math, thats (10 times a week times avg 2 hours) thats 20 hours a week of farkin... thats a part time job damnit!
 
2007-11-30 10:54:48 AM
techmom: From our favourite douchebag's own website: Ta-dah!

I'm sorry.. I can't hear anything over the sound of how awesome he is!

What's bad are girls who are willing to fark and end up marrying guys who don't. We play with some on occasion who are fark machines, and their husbands literally have no idea what sorta sexual beast they really could have at their disposal.
 
2007-11-30 10:55:12 AM
CapitolG: Awwww Techmom, you are my favorite farker, hands down.

See that? Right there? That is charm. He could get in my pants easily right now (well, if it weren't for certain logistical problems, not to mention that whole 'fidelity' hangup of mine...).

/that's how it's done, boys
//girly gushing ensues
 
2007-11-30 10:56:18 AM
kiam

aha so it is schedualing

:-p and your not counting quickies.. :-p thats no fun my own limited history has had quickies lead to more sex :-p
 
2007-11-30 10:56:52 AM
padraig: McManus_brothers: Isn't that the G-spot?

Probably. What matters is that it works. On her, anyway.


Try replacing the fingers with your tongue (the "come hither" motion is difficult, try doing circles just inside) and use your nose on her clit. My gf's neighbours hate me.
 
2007-11-30 10:57:41 AM
Sharkster: 28 when I lost mine (32 now) and currently on a 4-year dry-spell. Doesn't bother me at all.

/lives in Montana where I can be by myself.


You're REALLY doing it wrong.
 
2007-11-30 10:58:52 AM
di3t p3psi

ive been off and on dating a fattish nerdy girl

its just annoying, as like I maintain my weight, and she doesnt do that :P

Thats the problem. Every girl i meet with a good personality/nerdy attributes is larger. Im just looking for 'average'

/me 5'9 150lbs - the average height and weight
 
2007-11-30 10:59:22 AM
child_god

even with the condom the fluid is still in the orifice... its just bagged off
... so condom still counts
/and microscopic amounts of it have been known to escape
 
2007-11-30 10:59:55 AM
For all you farkers out there that are complaining about your women not having enough sex drive, you need to understand something. Womans sexual peak is in the late 20's through their late 30's or early 40's. Mens sexual peak is basically at 18 to 25.


You're kinda still newly married and 27 and quoting from others and not from experience. You'll find that your perceptions may well not pan out later in life when you're 37 and looking at a 37 year old woman who used to be your wife today, who wants nothing to do with sex and in fact hasn't considered sex a viable part of the relationship for over eight years.

This is the reality a lot of guys in sexless relationships find themselves in, no matter what they were sold as "the prime age for women's sex drive is from their 30's on up". Blame the men if you will (which is the normal tactic because the last thing a sexless woman wants to do is accept any measure of responsibility for the state of her relationship), but the sexless or nearly sexless relationship due to a lack of concern by the female partner (and very rarely, the male partner) is so prevalent that you can sit at a card game with ANY group of regular life 35 to 40 year old men and they'll almost universally nod in agreement when you talk about how women are sexless at this age.

Some aren't, and Flying Spaghetti Monster bless their little hearts. But if you think you're going to wake up next to a sexual dynamo when you're in your late 30's to early 40's, you're probably setting yourself up for major disappointment. Once the kids pop out and her career gears up, you'll find that in her eyes you're little more than a date that went well twenty years ago. No matter how well you treat her and how much you "take out the trash" or "do the laundry". But don't take my word on it, just wait, see, talk to guys in the 40-ish age range.
 
2007-11-30 11:00:51 AM
d13t p3ps1: i'm a fat nerdy girl. we have good personalities, larsinio. I promise.

I'd say to go no bigger than a size 16. Girls bigger than that tend to have really bad self esteem issues. I know I did, until i lost some weight.


Fat and nerdy is hot, so long as you both are the same magnitude of nerdy.

Frex; free-form role-play in the bedroom? Hot. So long as it's not involving robes and wizard hats.

Role-play involving dice? As a leadup, fine, but once the action starts, you better be ready to set them aside, and not be a twink.

And still keep acknowledgment of the other person, as it's them you're schtupping, not their character.

/why, yes, the Sig-O likes that whole bunches
//joys of having a suitably zaftig RPG geek girl
 
2007-11-30 11:01:13 AM
techmom: IdBeCrazyIf: I need a link..stat

From our favourite douchebag's own website: Ta-dah!


danic101: Can you Prove Love Exists? Beyond a chemical attraction to Pheremones.

No, I can't. Most of the truly worthwhile things in life are not quantifiable in that way.

How long can 'a chemical attraction to pheromones' last? Biologically speaking, that has long since fulfilled its purpose, since our 3 children are grown and healthy. And yet, here we are after almost 23 years together - he still sings me silly love songs (off-key), he still makes my heart beat a little faster when he smiles at me in that certain way, and while there are other men I've been tempted to sleep with (temptation successfully resisted, thankyouverymuch), there is no man on the face of this planet who I'd rather wake up to.

I call that love; you may call it whatever you wish.


Fails to make any quantafiable point
 
2007-11-30 11:01:28 AM
karasoth 2007-11-30 10:56:18 AM
kiam

aha so it is schedualing

:-p and your not counting quickies.. :-p thats no fun my own limited history has had quickies lead to more sex :-p


Hah, totally. The Quickie is the mans tool to the universe. I go home for lunch and get a lunch quickie. By the time i get off work, she's cancelled her appointments and basically has my clothes off before i can get the garage door closed.

The sex starts and continues throughout the house until we pass out.

This has also taught me an important lesson. Never ever, EVER have a lunch quickie when you're expecting company after work. While you can withhold the tempation for a quickie, she CANNOT control herself afterwards. Trust me... I've had friends sitting out front of our house for hours waiting for us to answer the door.

Heh.



yanno.. marriage really is awesome.
 
2007-11-30 11:01:31 AM
child_god: As an aside, I wonder if theres a porn site where virgins give blowjobs? Could be an interesting niche market...

no-teeth.com?
itdoesntbendthatway.com?
trust_me_it_tastes_like_chocolate.com?

an interesting niche market... as in the Chinese curse, 'May you live in interesting times.'
 
2007-11-30 11:05:51 AM
techmom: danic101: I am waiting for Love, but since Love does not exist. I will not engage in any sexual activity.

Love exists.


I don't doubt that it exists.

But 99% of it is codependency, denial, and/or resignation masquerading as love.

I don't even think that most normal couples are really even compatible for true, romantic love. I think most of them are just "stuck together".

The people who talk about love the most are the ones who're lying to themselves about it.
 
2007-11-30 11:06:01 AM
LowPlainsDrifter

Just because you sucked out and pulled a shiatty card out of the bag, and thus are hating your life now, doesnt meant that the rest of us are in the same position.

True, i'm newly married and young. But i've been with my wife for over 6 years already.

I've also met many many people that have very active sex lives through their 40's and on. I've also met poor farkers like you who basically dry up and lose all purpose in life at age 30. Poor you.

I believe its called romance and communication. If her life with you is mundane and hasn't changed since you were 30 that might be a good reason you're jerkin off everyday instead of farkin your wife.


Try taking her to france, working out together and doing something romantic.
 
2007-11-30 11:07:07 AM
karasoth: Love exists.

THIS

Love may some times be all kinds of Suck but it is real


Thanks! It's dumb dames like you that make it easy for guys like me to score!

because everything I say is everything you`ve ever wanted to hear
so you drop all your defenses and you drop all your fears
and you trust me completely
 
2007-11-30 11:07:10 AM
FTA: The researchers say this preliminary evidence may point up detrimental effects of abstinence-only education.

That is all.
 
2007-11-30 11:07:48 AM
i dunno if i believe in love

but i believe in apt companionship

/marriage having love as a requirement is 20th century thinking, prior to that it was an economic relationship only
 
2007-11-30 11:08:34 AM
Believe whatever you will Kiam. That's the charm of youth without experience. You have all the answers already, no need to consider other points of view with anything other than contempt. I'm sure you'll do just fine.
 
2007-11-30 11:08:55 AM
LowPlainsDrifter: Some aren't, and Flying Spaghetti Monster bless their little hearts. But if you think you're going to wake up next to a sexual dynamo when you're in your late 30's to early 40's, you're probably setting yourself up for major disappointment. Once the kids pop out and her career gears up, you'll find that in her eyes you're little more than a date that went well twenty years ago. No matter how well you treat her and how much you "take out the trash" or "do the laundry". But don't take my word on it, just wait, see, talk to guys in the 40-ish age range.

fark, I'm 26 and you just described my life to a T.

Romantically speaking, I have a room-mate. The only reason she even touches me is because I'm exothermic.
 
2007-11-30 11:09:36 AM
cerberus9

UUuhhh I'm a dude
 
2007-11-30 11:09:47 AM
I AM NOT CONCERNED BY THIS HEADLINE AT ALL
 
2007-11-30 11:10:35 AM
They're missing the obvious here.

Men who lose it later in life have a harder time getting aroused because they've been spoiled by years and years of beating off to the finest pornography the internet has to offer. Unless their girl likes inverted blowjobs and going ATM, they might be a little underwhelmed.
 
2007-11-30 11:11:25 AM
hick_town

HOWEVER their data all came before widespread Abstinence only education happened

so it doesn't say that at all
 
2007-11-30 11:11:36 AM
techmom:

No, I can't. Most of the truly worthwhile things in life are not quantifiable in that way.

How long can 'a chemical attraction to pheromones' last? Biologically speaking, that has long since fulfilled its purpose, since our 3 children are grown and healthy. And yet, here we are after almost 23 years together - he still sings me silly love songs (off-key), he still makes my heart beat a little faster when he smiles at me in that certain way, and while there are other men I've been tempted to sleep with (temptation successfully resisted, thankyouverymuch), there is no man on the face of this planet who I'd rather wake up to.

I call that love; you may call it whatever you wish.


"I don't believe in destiny/
Or the guiding hand of fate/
I don't believe in forever/
Or in love as a mystical state

I don't believe in the stars or the planets/
Or angels watching from above
I believe there's a ghost of a chance
that we [all] can find someone to love
[And make it last]"

/for no good reason
//not a fanatic of these performers
///bear strong emotions for this number from their repertoire
////i call you pretty fershlugginer fortuitous [and a keeper to boot], tech!
 
2007-11-30 11:12:17 AM
karasoth: cerberus9

UUuhhh I'm a dude


Pre-op or post-op?
 
2007-11-30 11:13:05 AM
Wendy's Chili

you however have a much more interesting theory then the study
 
2007-11-30 11:13:28 AM
This: fark, I'm 26 and you just described my life to a T.

Romantically speaking, I have a room-mate. The only reason she even touches me is because I'm exothermic.


You know it's a reality when shows like 20/20, Oprah and 60 Minutes do full length reporting on how sexless marriages have become. While I'm no fan of any of those shows, if there was no truth to the thought, or nobody to nod their head in agreement, they wouldn't even bother investing a dime into productions like that.

Wish I was 27 and full of All The Right Answers again. You always forget to write down how the world works when you fully and unconditionally understand it in your twenties, and it plays hell with you later in life when you encounter a reality you didn't anticipate, eh? heh
 
2007-11-30 11:13:44 AM
LowPlainsDrifter

HAH,

just because i dont consider your point of view doesnt mean i dont consider anyone's point of view. You're nothing special get over it.

Its not like i'm ignorant, i've asked the questions, i've started the conversations and confronted the issues. I've often preferred to talk to and question those that actually have fulfilling sex lives as older couples (30-50) because I'm intense on finding out how they kept it alive. I found that talking about these issues with people in your, uh.. situation made me depressed and cynical.

Hard discision to make huh? Stay the way you are, i'm sure you're wife loves it and you are obviously happy.


Have fun. I'll continue to learn from those that have been successful in keeping it alive through their later years, and i will also continue to ignore people in your "situation", you bring me down. Your poor wife.
 
2007-11-30 11:14:30 AM
cerberus9

LOL no with natural genetics a dude....
 
2007-11-30 11:15:02 AM
Sometimes sooner, forgot you said you were 26, sorry. :(
 
2007-11-30 11:15:16 AM
karasoth: hick_town

HOWEVER their data all came before widespread Abstinence only education happened

so it doesn't say that at all


Oh, I understand that. I'm just glad the conversation can be started, and we can finally get off the "Abstinence only works" crap. It doesn't work, and it's a waste of money.

It was on Fark a month or two ago, but the county I think in Alabama or Texas with all abstinence-only education has one of the worst teen pregnancy rates, as well as reaching epidemic status for STDs. Can't seem to find the article, though
 
2007-11-30 11:15:16 AM
Saoilsinn

getting married summer 08. still a virgin, as is hubby-to-be. waiting until the wedding night.

I admire your purity and all that but any time people have sex, there is the "how does it fit" factor. You could be totally incompatible with each other and you're buying that car without taking a test drive.
 
2007-11-30 11:15:29 AM
Smarshmallow: IdBeCrazyIf:

yes even the lonely ass losers get looks at least once a day. Perhaps not that "I wanna ride that ass" look but at least "I think I could fix that" look.

Once you start picking up on those looks, it's really not that hard to take advantage of them. Smile back, nod, whatever make notice that you notice them.

Maybe I'll try that. Oh the other hand, they may tend to shy away when they see the wedding band (or the wife sitting next to me).


Are you kidding? I keep my wedding band off in part for that reason. It's a booty and freak magnet. Weird I know, they won't flirt with you with your wife there but you are definately being checked out beer belly or not.
 
2007-11-30 11:15:40 AM
karasoth: cerberus9

LOL no with natural genetics a dude....


My apologies then.
 
2007-11-30 11:15:51 AM
techmom: no-teeth.com?

Truth. Five years and going strong, but still getting the cheese grater treatment.

Ladies: open wide. I know you "can't feel it on your teeth." WE CAN.
 
2007-11-30 11:16:04 AM
LowPlainsDrifter: Sometimes sooner, forgot you said you were 26, sorry. :(

Me too.

So, how does one cope with the horrifying realization that the best years of my life are probably never gonna happen?
 
2007-11-30 11:16:07 AM
LowPlainsDrifter

ya see i think sexless marriages have more to do with the type of women then with the state of being a woman. I was reading a couple of years ago a woman who wrote an Editorial about how her Job was more important to her then her 8 year old daughter. I think mentality like that leads to sexless marriages
 
2007-11-30 11:16:52 AM
Yes Kiam, you have all the answers. You're ready for everything life has to throw at you, and fortunately, life is perfectly logical and responds to plans and reasoning and conditional IF/THEN thinking. Good luck in life dude, you're going to need it.
 
2007-11-30 11:17:30 AM
Lost mine at the ripe old age of 25 this year.
Went from 0 to 5 in about 6 months. Life is good.
 
2007-11-30 11:18:26 AM
danic101: Fails to make any quantafiable point

Wasn't attempting to. I'm happy, in love, and enjoying great sex. Here is your initial post:

danic101: I am waiting for Love, but since Love does not exist. I will not engage in any sexual activity.

Go ahead: tell me again I'm full of FAIL.

/Disclaimer: actual results may vary based on individual circumstances. Individual circumstances precluding the onset of LOVE may include: being a troll, being a jerk, being JFP, and having or exhibiting any of the following: an ego the size of Texas, a churlish attitude, a distaste for personal hygiene, mild sociopathy, or other social disorders.
 
2007-11-30 11:18:33 AM
So i'm learning that it really is true that fark.com is inhabited by the socially inept.


Are there any socially successful people here?


Anyone between the ages of 30 and 50 still farking like jack rabbits and experiencing romance? I'm guessing probably not. They're too busy with their significant others or their jobs to be on fark.com at that age.


Whats your excuse?
 
2007-11-30 11:19:00 AM
Saoilsinn: getting married summer 08 and, given the ages and idealism of most people who save it, divorced by summer '11.
 
2007-11-30 11:19:15 AM
karasoth: child_god

even with the condom the fluid is still in the orifice... its just bagged off
... so condom still counts
/and microscopic amounts of it have been known to escape


Not if a Durex is used.

/thread bind
//nonsensically.
///boo me
////sadly, I'm sober as a hanging judge composed entirely out of granite
 
2007-11-30 11:20:01 AM
hick_town

and safe sex only doesn't work well EITHER.

(statistics can bare that position out as well)

What we need to do is teach kids about sex in a mature and reasonable way. Handing them condoms as they go out the door is as stupid as abstinence vows.

Early sex is by many studies not physically or emotionally beneficial to you longer term. Methods to prevent pregnancy/STDs all rely on being used PROPERLY something that even with training teens have a hard time doing.

Early Pregnancy is a indicator of not just future welfare status for yourself (and that varies due to Parental support) but for your child as an adult.

We need to actually talk about Sexuality and not just sex. We need to talk about how Sex impacts your life for good or for ill. We need to be grownups about it but most people are still just kids
 
2007-11-30 11:21:11 AM
karasoth: ya see i think sexless marriages have more to do with the type of women then with the state of being a woman. I was reading a couple of years ago a woman who wrote an Editorial about how her Job was more important to her then her 8 year old daughter. I think mentality like that leads to sexless marriages


I think you're right actually. Unfortunately this type of woman is being pushed as the ideal in society and way too many are emulating that role. Not that sexlessness is being pushed, but sexlessness is the end result of putting the model into practice.

Just thinking out loud here. Glad not everybody has it all "figured out". :)
 
2007-11-30 11:22:44 AM
One thing that I've found interesting is the people that brag about how great their sex lives are to complete strangers (say, on certain web-sites). It seems suspicious; almost as if these people believe that if they proclaim something enough times, it must be true. What are they covering for?
 
2007-11-30 11:23:12 AM
karasoth: Early sex is by many studies not physically or emotionally beneficial to you longer term. Methods to prevent pregnancy/STDs all rely on being used PROPERLY something that even with training teens have a hard time doing.

Teens aren't stupid. The harsh reality is that boys are gullible, and a terrifying proportion of young girls want to get knocked up. Baby-wishing is just the next step after cutting in emo teen girls.

But what girl is going to admit that? So obviously, her birth control "failed".
 
2007-11-30 11:23:22 AM
LowPlainsDrifter 2007-11-30 11:16:52 AM
Yes Kiam, you have all the answers. You're ready for everything life has to throw at you, and fortunately, life is perfectly logical and responds to plans and reasoning and conditional IF/THEN thinking. Good luck in life dude, you're going to need it.


I never said i had all the asnwers, and i'm not trying to act like a know-it-all. But one thing i do know is that i will NEVER resolve myself to defeat as you apparently have. You have a sexless marriage and have apparently given up on it. While i know i dont have the answers nor knowledge of the future, one thing i know is that my personality will never allow me to give up on something like that, its far to important.
 
2007-11-30 11:26:02 AM
karasoth: jonny_q

I call a flag on your play. PROBLEM is (using this country as an example) when you got married in your early teens you were expected to be a functional adult.

in todays country most people in their 20s are not functional adults and even some folks in their 30s so its not the same thing


Isn't that what I said? (I never said "early teens", though - I don't know that marrying 14 yr olds was ever a norm, though a 14yr girl with an 18yr old guy may have been... anywho, I'm rambling again.)

I'm not making a profound statement about morality or anything... just saying that if the science is right, I wouldn't be terribly surprised.
 
2007-11-30 11:26:50 AM
karasoth: hick_town

and safe sex only doesn't work well EITHER.

(statistics can bare that position out as well)

What we need to do is teach kids about sex in a mature and reasonable way. Handing them condoms as they go out the door is as stupid as abstinence vows.

Early sex is by many studies not physically or emotionally beneficial to you longer term. Methods to prevent pregnancy/STDs all rely on being used PROPERLY something that even with training teens have a hard time doing.

Early Pregnancy is a indicator of not just future welfare status for yourself (and that varies due to Parental support) but for your child as an adult.

We need to actually talk about Sexuality and not just sex. We need to talk about how Sex impacts your life for good or for ill. We need to be grownups about it but most people are still just kids


Preaching to choir, man, preaching to choir. I'm all for well rounded sex ed. I had mine back in the late 80's/early 90's, and it covered abstinence as well as using condoms and the whole STD thing (the video is sickening), and I think that's why my peers and I turned out ok. No high school pregnancies, no STD scares.

All I'm saying is that, if we can get hard science to back that abstinence-only doesn't work, we can get back to something that does work: a good well rounded education that isn't used to scare and intimidate, but it inform and let the individual make the decision when they're ready.
 
2007-11-30 11:27:01 AM
When will the NO SHIAT tag appear on Fark?
 
2007-11-30 11:27:06 AM
This

one does not have to be stupid to fail at instructions. One has to be nervous or anxious

sound much like teens having sex...

however I agree that their are way high numbers of teen girls wanting to have babies with teen boys. BUT the dirty secret of Teen pregnancies is most of them with teenage girls happen with boys in their 20s

LowPlainsDrifter

I think you're right actually. Unfortunately this type of woman is being pushed as the ideal in society and way too many are emulating that role. Not that sexlessness is being pushed, but sexlessness is the end result of putting the model into practice.

I think it is a bug not a feature. Some one also had a good rant on the internet explaining how women with to many gay male friends are more unhappy with men (and why that is) I wish I could find that because thats another factor
 
2007-11-30 11:27:20 AM
20 normal woo yeah!
I lost it to my wife who was younger at the time...much younger.
 
2007-11-30 11:28:01 AM
LowPlainsDrifter 2007-11-30 11:21:11 AM
karasoth: ya see i think sexless marriages have more to do with the type of women then with the state of being a woman. I was reading a couple of years ago a woman who wrote an Editorial about how her Job was more important to her then her 8 year old daughter. I think mentality like that leads to sexless marriages


I think you're right actually. Unfortunately this type of woman is being pushed as the ideal in society and way too many are emulating that role. Not that sexlessness is being pushed, but sexlessness is the end result of putting the model into practice.

Just thinking out loud here. Glad not everybody has it all "figured out". :)




Isn't the first step in finding a mate identifying the qualities and personality that coincide with yours? If you failed at this first integral step in life, you may just end up with someone who cares more about work than family.

But you're right, it is the type of woman. Good for you for picking the wrong type (or letting society decide for you, way to make your own decisions)
 
2007-11-30 11:28:14 AM
LowPlainsDrifter: Yes Kiam, you have all the answers. You're ready for everything life has to throw at you, and fortunately, life is perfectly logical and responds to plans and reasoning and conditional IF/THEN thinking. Good luck in life dude, you're going to need it.

I may be 20, and a virgin, and in a sexless relationship, but you have a real defeatist attitude.
 
2007-11-30 11:29:22 AM
cerberus9: What are they covering for?

A slip up at a Nascar Race porta potty.

/sorry dogfood ;)
 
2007-11-30 11:29:41 AM
kiam: Anyone between the ages of 30 and 50 still farking like jack rabbits and experiencing romance?

Over here! *waves hand*

I wish I could bottle & sell the chemistry, I truly do; we'd be rich! I'm sorry for all the bitter people of the world/Fark.com, but they are viewing the world through their own lenses. I prefer mine.

As I said earlier, I'm happy. If they want to wait for me to join them in their cynicism, well I hope they're patient.

/love like you've never been hurt
//congratulations to us both
 
2007-11-30 11:29:51 AM
karasoth: LowPlainsDrifter

ya see i think sexless marriages have more to do with the type of women then with the state of being a woman. I was reading a couple of years ago a woman who wrote an Editorial about how her Job was more important to her then her 8 year old daughter. I think mentality like that leads to sexless marriages


This is just anti-feminist bullcrap. Choosing her job over her family life has nothing to do with her sexuality. What, you think that all those June Cleavers had wonderful sex lives? Hell no, they just lied back and were submissive.

Look, I'm as misogynistic as the next Farker, but blaming career-oriented life for frigid women is preposterous. You know what happens when I have a rough day at work? I want to fark the ever-loving-hell out of my wife.

Women don't have trouble with sex because they're liberated - they have trouble with sex because they're neurotic, because society _encourages_ them to be neurotic.

The only thing feminism did that reduced the sex in marriage was to tell women that it's okay to say "no" to your partner. Which is a true and decent concept. The problem is that they didn't tell women "but you should probably try to Fark as often as you can anyways, because the female libido can seriously atrophy if you don't feed it".

/considers himself a reluctantly misogynistic feminist.
//they deserve all the rights and protections that they get... they're just all tasteless batshiat-crazy whiners.
 
2007-11-30 11:30:03 AM
I'm a cold-hearted drunken prick, and I'm finding these posts amusing

/ps Oral does not account for loss of virginity
//all you who put peanut butter on your junk for your dog...you're still virgins.
 
2007-11-30 11:30:19 AM
This: Me too.

So, how does one cope with the horrifying realization that the best years of my life are probably never gonna happen?


If you don't have kids, divorce. Seriously. Taking a 50% hit on assets is the best deal you can get. I'd jump at a deal like that in a New York minute. If you have kids it gets much more complicated. Your options then are divorce and be drained of all life and income while simultaneously watching your children go through hell through lack of a steady father figure. Another option is infidelity and keeping quiet about it. Some couples the wife even quietly "knows" and is happy to continue the facade of a happy marriage without worrying about sex since he's getting it from a mistress. Third option is to accept fate and learn to love porn. Fourth option, working on it, requires her to work on it with you and also for her to take responsibility for her sexuality, which is precisely what normally doesn't happen. I've seen counseling nightmares that end with little more than a drained wallet and then a divorce (I think the stats on marriage counseling is that 75% of the people who get to that stage and see a counselor end up divorcing in short order).

Of course I advise the "work on it" method first, but again, it takes two to work on it. Bringing her flowers, taking out the trash, "take her to Paris" don't work if she doesn't recognize that there needs to be reciprocation on her part. Communication doesn't work if she doesn't want to listen to what you have to say and doesn't want to talk about the topic at all. You can't force a person to communicate after all.
 
2007-11-30 11:30:28 AM
jonny_q

well your speakin of biology I am speaking of socioloy

a 14 year old today (heck even an 18 year old) is NOTHING emotionally/Maturity wise like his age cohort peer 100 years ago. post WWII we did a major shift on kids

hick_town

I think a bigger problem isn't does X or Does why work. I think a bigger problem which no one wants to talk about is how do you get kids to listen. Most every class I had (and where I lived they had an EXTREMELY robust anti-aids talk) we went through the motions to get through the class but didn't pay much attention. I think thats a bigger problem and may be why the extreme sex ed programs favored politically by folks who run our government for us fail and fail hard
 
2007-11-30 11:30:32 AM
Raw_fishFood:

My point exactly.
 
2007-11-30 11:32:59 AM
kiam: So i'm learning that it really is true that fark.com is inhabited by the socially inept.


Are there any socially successful people here?


Anyone between the ages of 30 and 50 still farking like jack rabbits and experiencing romance? I'm guessing probably not. They're too busy with their significant others or their jobs to be on fark.com at that age.


Whats your excuse?


OOOHHHH, snarky!

Savor this Hors d'œuvre of attention for all of the trace elements of satisfaction that you can locate within.

/self-defined as celibate and content.
//Why should you give a righteous fornication about it were I not?
 
2007-11-30 11:33:23 AM
This

your missing my point. Her whole article about why her job was more important then her child was about selfish narcissism... which is what Pop Feminism is encouraging in women. and that selfish Narcissim is why marriages go sexless because sex to her is not about partnership its about HER. Just as the woman who wrote the article didn't care about her role as a mother or her responsibilities.. it was that her job made her feel better then being a mommy

(see Sex in the City and damned near any empowered woman on TV or movies)
 
2007-11-30 11:34:13 AM
techmom :

So in the interest in keeping up with my research, tell me, how do you and your husband keep the activity alive all these years? (i'm willing to bet its a lot of the things i've already mentioned?)
 
2007-11-30 11:34:41 AM
I may be 20, and a virgin, and in a sexless relationship, but you have a real defeatist attitude.


Not at all. I'm still married and trying, right? What you read is experience talking. And noting that life doesn't work according to plans, IF/THEN thinking and logic isn't defeatist, it's realistic. You can do everything in the world but if you're with somebody who refuses to take part in the work, it just doesn't matter. Both parties are responsible for the relationship, not just the guy. When a woman freezes up, the first impulse is always "its the guy's fault". Odd really, because that's saying that he is responsible for her libido, plus he's responsible for his libido. She's absolved of all responsibility.

End of the day you have to recognize reality for what it is and work with what you have. That's not defeatist, that's just life.
 
2007-11-30 11:34:54 AM
Got damn threads like these can get one depressed.

Almost makes me wanna just stay in this weekend and do nothing and not go to the club sat night.

almost
 
2007-11-30 11:36:09 AM
NeuroticRocker, that chick was a biatch. Don't let one woman's lameness adversely affect your sex life.

There are about 5,000 other women (or men) who will treat you with respect, worship your body, and work through any issues you have--with you. Don't sweat it. It will help if you keep up the 'rocker' part of your name more than the 'neurotic' part, but don't sweat it. 26 is very young. I didn't get the whole 'sex thing' right until about 32. (there are men who make women feel bad in bed, too) And I'm a girl. With boobies.

We all have our own schedules. This article is bullshiat.
 
2007-11-30 11:37:59 AM
got tired of lingering, decided to just jump on in, got nothin' to lose
/to the thread
//16
 
2007-11-30 11:39:15 AM
This

Trust me, the last thing you want to do is take advise from someone who is currently in the same situation (shows that he/she has no idea out to resolve the issue).

If you want advise, maybe ask Techmom, as she is likely the best one to advise you on a healthly long lasting sexful romantic relationship.


Its common sense, i wouldnt ask a mechanic about health issues, just like i wouldnt ask or listen to a man in a sexless marriage about how to fix one.
 
2007-11-30 11:39:16 AM
LowPlainsDrifter:

Got a little boy.

Third option is to accept fate and learn to love porn.

Yup. Clandestinely, because she considers it cheating.

To be fair, she does try. It's just that her approach to trying is "lie back, reject the vibrator, reject the cunnilingus, reject the foreplay, basically tells me to get it in and get it over with, and then start crying when her physically-disinterested vagina starts getting painful" once every few months.

Worst part is that, for some goddamned reason, the experience screws up my head so much that I'm basically stuck with the leftover blueballs for the rest of the week.
 
2007-11-30 11:39:24 AM
I wonder if the whole "Wait until marriage" thing factors into this research. That being said, I do not consider 21-23 being late.

24
 
2007-11-30 11:41:26 AM
This

I think you're past farkers advise, you need professional help.
 
2007-11-30 11:41:59 AM
Hal5423: I wonder if the whole "Wait until marriage" thing factors into this research. That being said, I do not consider 21-23 being late.

24


While I lost mine at a younger age, I'm not necessarily gonna say you're incorrect about that one. If you wait until then, there are better chances of you missing the whole 15-19 age where there's random females obsessed with getting pregnant for no good reason.

/lost virginity to one
//scariest thing ever is to hear "you'll make a great father" at 17.
 
2007-11-30 11:42:11 AM
This: This is just anti-feminist bullcrap. Choosing her job over her family life has nothing to do with her sexuality. What, you think that all those June Cleavers had wonderful sex lives? Hell no, they just lied back and were submissive.

I think that the point was that the woman being referenced was selfish to the extreme; leaving aside the existence of maternal hormones (and I had them in spades), she's supposed to be responsible for that wee scrap of humanity. If she were to consider the welfare of any other human being at all, shouldn't it be her child??

There has to be a certain amount of selfishness for good sex - orgasms are veryvery nice! - but there also has to be selflessness, concern for your partner's gratification. Otherwise we might as well all be masturbating.

The woman from the editorial has more dysfunctions than just sexual, she's probably a low-level sociopath. Would you trust a person - of either gender - who put their career aspirations ahead of their child? And said so, in a public forum? That makes her not just selfish, but stupid as well.
 
2007-11-30 11:43:10 AM
kiam: If you want advise, maybe ask Techmom, as she is likely the best one to advise you on a healthly long lasting sexful romantic relationship.

Nah.. if you follow his comments well, its pretty obvious that his marriage is over at this point.

His only option is divorce and if I remember past threads correctly, he might as well become an indentured servant if that were to be the case.
 
2007-11-30 11:43:23 AM
kiamIsn't the first step in finding a mate identifying the qualities and personality that coincide with yours? If you failed at this first integral step in life, you may just end up with someone who cares more about work than family.

But you're right, it is the type of woman. Good for you for picking the wrong type (or letting society decide for you, way to make your own decisions)


You're a very hostile person kiam. All I'm offering is a different view than you hold, yet you go ballistic and feel the need to be insulting. Why, I wonder? If this is your reaction to somebody stating something you don't believe now, imagine how you're going to be impacted later when reality doesn't work like you think it should.

People change over the course of their lives. Seriously, they do. The you at 27 will in very few ways resemble the you at 40. The you at 27 probably doesn't bear much psychological resemblance to the you at 17. It happens to everybody. The person you know when you're 23 will not be the same person you greet at 50. He/she will have the same name, and the same mutual memories, and maybe a few unchanged viewpoints, but otherwise it will be a different person in a vast array of aspects.

It is good that you're watching other relationships and asking questions. It really is. But lets see how you do when your answers don't work, the observations fall flat and you find yourself asking "why...I've done all the right things, what the hell?!?"

You could profit from hearing a voice other than your own, and considering a viewpoint other than your own as valid, kiam. Right now you're doing high fives with people who agree with you and sneering at those for whom life has dealt a different hand than you've been dealt...so far.

Believe me when I say I wish you luck, I was just like you at age 27.
 
2007-11-30 11:43:57 AM
ATTENTION FARKERS: TECHMOM IS GONNA WRITE A BOOK AND YOU'RE GONNA READ IT!
 
2007-11-30 11:44:31 AM
PhotoCindy

We all have our own schedules. This article is bullshiat.

Amen to that

This

Ouch....I feel for you man
 
2007-11-30 11:45:05 AM
IdBeCrazyIf :

you're probably right. Again i attribute this to the selection process. People slide over that so easily and do not recognize the importance of selecting the right mate for them.

Essentially they got themselves into that mess. Next time, be smarter with who you date/marry/etc.
 
2007-11-30 11:45:31 AM
This: karasoth: LowPlainsDrifter



/considers himself a reluctantly misogynistic feminist.
//they deserve all the rights and protections that they get... they're just all tasteless batshiat-crazy whiners.


Mostly true of American women ;o) Especially in DC
 
2007-11-30 11:47:04 AM
kiam: IdBeCrazyIf :

you're probably right. Again i attribute this to the selection process. People slide over that so easily and do not recognize the importance of selecting the right mate for them.

Essentially they got themselves into that mess. Next time, be smarter with who you date/marry/etc.


There is no greater misery than realizing that all the shiat in your life is your own goddamned fault.
 
2007-11-30 11:47:30 AM

I think that the point was that the woman being referenced was selfish to the extreme; leaving aside the existence of maternal hormones (and I had them in spades), she's supposed to be responsible for that wee scrap of humanity. If she were to consider the welfare of any other human being at all, shouldn't it be her child??

There has to be a certain amount of selfishness for good sex - orgasms are veryvery nice! - but there also has to be selflessness, concern for your partner's gratification. Otherwise we might as well all be masturbating.

The woman from the editorial has more dysfunctions than just sexual, she's probably a low-level sociopath. Would you trust a person - of either gender - who put their career aspirations ahead of their child? And said so, in a public forum? That makes her not just selfish, but stupid as well.


Good post techmom. Agreed 100%
 
2007-11-30 11:48:26 AM
There has to be a certain amount of selfishness for good sex - orgasms are veryvery nice! - but there also has to be selflessness, concern for your partner's gratification. Otherwise we might as well all be masturbating.

Techmom have I told you how awesome you are as a farker :-p IIRC you one time posted about how Nerdy uys are awesome I think to

anyway thats a very key point. When you get into a long term relationship/Marry to some one you have to check some selfish desires at the door... not all of them mind you but some.

and when you have kids you are responsible for the child. Yeah you may want to rock the world but you made a little person and you are responsible for it until it is mentally/physically and/ (most importantly) Emotionally ready to fly off on its own

its that last part which makes life a ball of suck for everyone. People who pass their farked up psycho-emotional life crap onto their kids and make everyone miserable.. raise your kids and do your damned job as a parent
 
2007-11-30 11:50:00 AM
"Nobody's fault but your own for staying with her in a verbally/emotionally abusive relationship."

THIS......

I'm going thru a divorce as we speak to free myself from a verbally/emotionally abusive relationship. Too bad I wasted 15 years of my life before I woke up.

I get phone sex now till the ink is dry on the divorce decree. You know, the kind where she calls you and says "fark YOU!!!".
 
2007-11-30 11:50:19 AM
westbound pachyderm: ATTENTION FARKERS: TECHMOM IS GONNA WRITE A BOOK AND YOU'RE GONNA READ IT!

Are you implying that there's something not positive about that possibly not untrue future development or am I just inferring one?

in shorty: I'd hit it.


/It = book.
 
2007-11-30 11:50:29 AM
kiam: techmom :

So in the interest in keeping up with my research, tell me, how do you and your husband keep the activity alive all these years? (i'm willing to bet its a lot of the things i've already mentioned?)


I'm not sure we did anything special; it just seemed like too much fun to give up? No big vacations or 'special date nights' or anything - we just let each other know that we still saw each other as sexual, and attractive. Frequently.

We do have a tradition that I break out some new lingerie on Christmas Eve, after the kids have settled down... Lingerie doesn't do anything for me, but I love the effect that it has on him.

I dunno. No big secrets, no surefire methods. Sorry...
 
2007-11-30 11:50:52 AM
i'm 25, a virgin, and it'll be at least another 10 years before i get any.

back in high school, i was actually popular with girls. i was just too naive and shy to actually make a move. when i finally asked a girl out, i could barely speak i was so nervous. i found out when i was 23 who was actually into me from hs from a friend. i was dumbfouneded by most of them. sad thing is every girl who liked me, i liked as well, so more than a little frustrating.

i finally kissed a girl a week before i turned 21. this is after i couldnt make a move on my friend that i went to the club with. she was really drunk and throwing herself at me, and i wanted her so bad, yet i couldnt make a move. finally we were dancing, and i was running my mouth on her neck and she kissed me for the next 45 minutes or so.

obviously that didnt work out so 2 weeks later after i failed at hitting on some friends, i had this hot filipino chick come up to me and ask me if i wanted to kiss her. i went at her and she pushed me away, and dragged me off to the corner, where we made out till the club closed.

earlier this year, i was in a student film and met this chick. everyone knew we were into each other and i figured when the party came around i'd actually do something. party never happened, still frustrated...

yea its really lame, i've made out 5 times, once with the same chick, and have never been even remotely close to having sex. i seem to have no problem hitting on girls i dont care about, but the ones i'm actually interested in...i cant do it. i tell people that i nailed girl #1 back in high school. i tell my roommate, whose also a sexually frustrated virgin, i go nuts if i dont have sex for 2 months. i was called on never bringing a girl over. i said i wouldnt bring one over with him there. he doesnt get out much either.

/rocket scientist
//no joke
///its a lie, chicks dont ask to see my rocket
 
2007-11-30 11:52:21 AM
IdBeCrazyIf: kiam: If you want advise, maybe ask Techmom, as she is likely the best one to advise you on a healthly long lasting sexful romantic relationship.

Nah.. if you follow his comments well, its pretty obvious that his marriage is over at this point.

His only option is divorce and if I remember past threads correctly, he might as well become an indentured servant if that were to be the case.


There's other options:

You got problems in your life of love
You got a broken heart
...
 
2007-11-30 11:53:20 AM
LowPlainsDrifter

Believe me when I say I wish you luck, I was just like you at age 27


You tell me i'm hostile, and going balistic, when all I'm hearing from your corner is that we should all give up and give into a boring sexless marriage. You're basically condeming me to your fate. Contrary to popular belief, many of us do not conform or do what teh TV/Media tell us to do. I will take that same attitude with you sir.


Thanks and have a nice day.
 
2007-11-30 11:53:39 AM
karasoth: LowPlainsDrifter

ya see i think sexless marriages have more to do with the type of women then with the state of being a woman. I was reading a couple of years ago a woman who wrote an Editorial about how her Job was more important to her then her 8 year old daughter. I think mentality like that leads to sexless marriages


It isn't always the woman who makes the marriage sexless. I have to beg for the sex that happens in my marital bed.

/Woman
//Not ugly or fat
///Twice a month if I'm lucky.
 
2007-11-30 11:54:55 AM
billsil: i seem to have no problem hitting on girls i dont care about, but the ones i'm actually interested in

Problem number 1

Putting the pussy on a pedestal and not recognizing your own limitations.

westbound pachyderm: ATTENTION FARKERS: TECHMOM IS GONNA WRITE A BOOK AND YOU'RE GONNA READ FAP TO IT!

There.. FTFY
 
2007-11-30 11:55:00 AM
techmom

Okay, so I'll attribute your success to proper mate selection, as i've said thats far overlooked lately.


Congrats, i will be happy if i end up like you.
 
2007-11-30 11:55:20 AM
NeuroticRocker
I'm 26 in less than a month.

when I was 21, I spent a couple of times with this girl, who quite frankly was a biatch.

she kept telling me that she didn't like me or even find me attractive, and she was just using me. she wouldn't let me touch her, and there was no fore or afterplay. and everytime I came, it was without orgasm, because everytime I got it up, shed insult me....however, she was impressed with my package, and that's why I was chosen I guess.

but, I had to think of other girls to finish, or even get aroused. like I said, it was always without orgasm.

the only reason I put up with it was because at that age, she was the only girl I had been naked in front of or with, and had no prior experience, except hugs.

no I'm not gay, I had a very farked up upbringing and wasn't around people until I was in my 20s, and I still have a very hard time dealing with.

so...im a reclusive loner loser, but fine with that.

almost 26 and haven't had any real experience.....i may not have physical dysfunction, but the emotional dysfunction is enough to make me physically unable to reach my potential.




Brandon?

I'm sorry I did that to you.
 
2007-11-30 11:56:24 AM
karasoth: your missing my point. Her whole article about why her job was more important then her child was about selfish narcissism... which is what Pop Feminism is encouraging in women. and that selfish Narcissim is why marriages go sexless because sex to her is not about partnership its about HER. Just as the woman who wrote the article didn't care about her role as a mother or her responsibilities.. it was that her job made her feel better then being a mommy

My bad. Obviously, my incessant bitterness has driven me to a lot of men's blogs - and a lot of those have some really nasty anti-feminist "none of this would happen if the wimmins were back in the farking kitchen" crap. My kneejerk reaction must've launched my foot into my mouth.
 
2007-11-30 11:56:34 AM
It isn't always the woman who makes the marriage sexless. I have to beg for the sex that happens in my marital bed.


Very true. I did note early that once in a rare while its the guy who is the dork in the relationship.

As techmom says, there are no "tips/secrets" that magically make things work. If both partners are not commited to the relationship, if one of them refuses to even communicate, there's little you can do. Truth be told you can't "make" somebody want to have sex with you. If they don't value you, they simply won't, no matter what you do. It's a weird path to walk really. Weren't for the kids I'd been gone years ago.
 
2007-11-30 11:56:49 AM
This thread makes me sad.
 
2007-11-30 11:57:12 AM
cerberus9: There's other options:

You got problems in your life of love
You got a broken heart
...


i4.photobucket.com
 
2007-11-30 11:57:40 AM
IdBeCrazyIf:

YOU'RE GONNA FAP TO IT!

There.. FTFY


Them's 'bout to get schooled, yo!
 
2007-11-30 11:58:54 AM
This 2007-11-30 11:56:24 AM
karasoth: your missing my point. Her whole article about why her job was more important then her child was about selfish narcissism... which is what Pop Feminism is encouraging in women. and that selfish Narcissim is why marriages go sexless because sex to her is not about partnership its about HER. Just as the woman who wrote the article didn't care about her role as a mother or her responsibilities.. it was that her job made her feel better then being a mommy

My bad. Obviously, my incessant bitterness has driven me to a lot of men's blogs - and a lot of those have some really nasty anti-feminist "none of this would happen if the wimmins were back in the farking kitchen" crap. My kneejerk reaction must've launched my foot into my mouth.



Sounds like your man blog browsing and "woman in the kitchen" crap has purpetuated your situation, no?

Have you tried reading womens blogs for women in her situation? Try attacking it from the "im out to please" angle instead of the "i'm getting screwed" angle.
 
2007-11-30 11:59:37 AM
To the Virgins, to Make Much of Time
by Robert Herrick

Gather ye rosebuds while ye may,
Old Time is still a-flying:
And this same flower that smiles to-day
To-morrow will be dying.

The glorious lamp of heaven, the sun,
The higher he's a-getting,
The sooner will his race be run,
And nearer he's to setting.

That age is best which is the first,
When youth and blood are warmer;
But being spent, the worse, and worst
Times still succeed the former.

Then be not coy, but use your time,
And while ye may, go marry:
For having lost but once your prime,
You may for ever tarry.
 
2007-11-30 11:59:45 AM
westbound pachyderm: ATTENTION FARKERS: TECHMOM IS GONNA WRITE A BOOK AND YOU'RE GONNA READ IT!

WTF? A short story, maybe... Flatterer!

Life's farking Instruction Book? (It'll do as a working title...)

Nope, don't think so, I've never claimed to be an expert at anything. I'm just straightforward, so socially inept that I never learned the finer points of flirting, or lying, or 'faking it'... and apparently that's a Good Thing, who knew?
 
2007-11-30 11:59:54 AM
This

the CURRENT wave of Feminism sucks donkey balls (as does the current wave of most current victims groups)

their is a magic tipping point. a woman who can say no becomes a woman who has all the power "because I have a monopoly on the vagina" I could even argue its not so much the current wave of Victims groups that are to blame so much as how it allows the weaknesses and worst parts of the human soul to come out and play better then ever before
 
2007-11-30 12:00:36 PM
CarmexAddict: karasoth: LowPlainsDrifter

ya see i think sexless marriages have more to do with the type of women then with the state of being a woman. I was reading a couple of years ago a woman who wrote an Editorial about how her Job was more important to her then her 8 year old daughter. I think mentality like that leads to sexless marriages

It isn't always the woman who makes the marriage sexless. I have to beg for the sex that happens in my marital bed.

/Woman
//Not ugly or fat
///Twice a month if I'm lucky.


my sincerest and most-likely-not-even-in-the-same-zip-code-as-useful-to-you condolences.
 
2007-11-30 12:01:35 PM
techmom: Nope, don't think so, I've never claimed to be an expert at anything. I'm just straightforward, so socially inept that I never learned the finer points of flirting, or lying, or 'faking it'... and apparently that's a Good Thing, who knew?

We can Collaborate on it, turn it into a best seller coffee table book.
 
2007-11-30 12:04:33 PM
CarmexAddict

there are plenty of women who do lead to bed death... sounds to me like you either (a) landed a low sex interested guy or (b) something deeper is going on

but I feels for ya
 
2007-11-30 12:04:49 PM
kiam: Anyone between the ages of 30 and 50 still farking like jack rabbits and experiencing romance?


Yes, but I'm only 30. Going on holiday next week and the gf has told me that she wants it at least twice a day, every day to make up for all the nights I've been working away from home this year. The holiday is our christmas present to each other and it's her birthday while we're away. I bought her an antique bracelet she saw in a jewellers in May and have been keeping it secret for months. Hardest was when she came home almost in tears when she saw that it was gone from the shop as she was going to buy it herself. It was just a small effort on my part but I know she's going to love it. She's great to me too. The other night I came home late from a pretty horrendous day. She had made dinner and "dressed up" underneath her pyjamas. I didn't feel too stressed for long. It just takes a little bit of effort and it goes a long way.

This

Your wife's problem sounds like vaginismus, which is awful for both parties. AFAIK it's a pyschological condition and can be treated with therapy for her alone and for you as a couple, but you both have to want to do it. I do feel for you, had a friend in a similar position and it was hard on them both.
 
2007-11-30 12:05:08 PM
IdBeCrazyIf: techmom: Nope, don't think so, I've never claimed to be an expert at anything. I'm just straightforward, so socially inept that I never learned the finer points of flirting, or lying, or 'faking it'... and apparently that's a Good Thing, who knew?

We can Collaborate on it, turn it into a best seller coffee table book.


We could call it "Make Love*"
/*The techmom Way
 
2007-11-30 12:05:50 PM
This: My bad. Obviously, my incessant bitterness has driven me to a lot of men's blogs - and a lot of those have some really nasty anti-feminist "none of this would happen if the wimmins were back in the farking kitchen" crap. My kneejerk reaction must've launched my foot into my mouth.

I've stumbled across some of those; please say you stay away from a guy who calls himself 'Angry Harry' or some such. That website had me shaking and almost in tears, it was frightening that someone could feel such hate.

I think you're too reasonable to subscribe to such bile, but however cathartic it may be, it's poison.
 
2007-11-30 12:06:46 PM
I'm a little surprised that the early 20's are considered late.

Most girls I know lost their virginity in their teens and most guys in their early 20's.

I just thought that was normal, no?
 
2007-11-30 12:07:31 PM
self_deprived_of_sleep: CarmexAddict: karasoth: LowPlainsDrifter

ya see i think sexless marriages have more to do with the type of women then with the state of being a woman. I was reading a couple of years ago a woman who wrote an Editorial about how her Job was more important to her then her 8 year old daughter. I think mentality like that leads to sexless marriages

It isn't always the woman who makes the marriage sexless. I have to beg for the sex that happens in my marital bed.

/Woman
//Not ugly or fat
///Twice a month if I'm lucky.

my sincerest and most-likely-not-even-in-the-same-zip-code-as-useful-to-you condolences.


You are correct but your attempt is much appreciated.
 
2007-11-30 12:07:54 PM
From my all time favorite Onion article:

"I'm so glad we waited until we got married-it made it so much more special," said the 26-year-old Linda, who is "pretty sure" John's penis penetrated her vaginal opening during the brief, fumbling lovemaking session. "I can't imagine what a letdown our first sexual experience would have been if we'd done it at some point during our five years of dating."
 
2007-11-30 12:08:37 PM
techmom: westbound pachyderm: ATTENTION FARKERS: TECHMOM IS GONNA WRITE A BOOK AND YOU'RE GONNA READ IT!

WTF? A short story, maybe... Flatterer!

Life's farking Instruction Book? (It'll do as a working title...)

Nope, don't think so, I've never claimed to be an expert at anything.


True experts rarely do, ime. It's the ones who brag on it that you can most safely ignore.

I'm just straightforward, so socially inept that I never learned the finer points of flirting, or lying, or 'faking it'... and apparently that's a Good Thing, who knew?

You type truth to power, ma'am. You type truth to power!
 
2007-11-30 12:10:59 PM
IdBeCrazyIf: We can Collaborate on it, turn it into a best seller coffee table book.

If you're collaborating, wouldn't it be more of a nightstand book?

westbound pachyderm: We could call it "Make Love*"
/*The techmom Way


You make me blush...
 
2007-11-30 12:12:10 PM
Tell it to someone who needs to hear it....

img106.imageshack.us
 
2007-11-30 12:12:30 PM
billsil: i'm 25, a virgin, and it'll be at least another 10 years before i get any.

back in high school, i was actually popular with girls. i was just too naive and shy to actually make a move. when i finally asked a girl out, i could barely speak i was so nervous. i found out when i was 23 who was actually into me from hs from a friend. i was dumbfouneded by most of them. sad thing is every girl who liked me, i liked as well, so more than a little frustrating.

i finally kissed a girl a week before i turned 21. this is after i couldnt make a move on my friend that i went to the club with. she was really drunk and throwing herself at me, and i wanted her so bad, yet i couldnt make a move. finally we were dancing, and i was running my mouth on her neck and she kissed me for the next 45 minutes or so.

obviously that didnt work out so 2 weeks later after i failed at hitting on some friends, i had this hot filipino chick come up to me and ask me if i wanted to kiss her. i went at her and she pushed me away, and dragged me off to the corner, where we made out till the club closed.

earlier this year, i was in a student film and met this chick. everyone knew we were into each other and i figured when the party came around i'd actually do something. party never happened, still frustrated...

yea its really lame, i've made out 5 times, once with the same chick, and have never been even remotely close to having sex. i seem to have no problem hitting on girls i dont care about, but the ones i'm actually interested in...i cant do it. i tell people that i nailed girl #1 back in high school. i tell my roommate, whose also a sexually frustrated virgin, i go nuts if i dont have sex for 2 months. i was called on never bringing a girl over. i said i wouldnt bring one over with him there. he doesnt get out much either.

/rocket scientist
//no joke
///its a lie, chicks dont ask to see my rocket


God, that sounds like my life when I was about that age. I was/am a computer geek, but close enough.

I don't know if this will help you, but I found truly not caring about any of it got me to relax enough to have a good time, and finally find a girl. She was pumped that she got a near 25 year old's v-card (yes, there are girls that find the nerd factor hot), and I got a 20 year old biochem major. And yes, she is hot. She's constantly being hit on at bars at clubs. She doesn't notice most of the time, though.
 
2007-11-30 12:14:28 PM
I lost mine at about age 20. I have to say "about" because the first few times I managed to get a receptive partner naked my peen never stiffened. When I finally achieved enough stiffness to do the deed it was a result of a frantic effort to milk enough blood into my delinquant organ with my own hands.

I became certain I was impotent, which seemed odd given that the equippage was running smoothly when I wanked it (to girly pics) in the evenings. Every evening. Twice on Sundays and Christmas. "Hmmm... something odd afoot," I thought.

I'm 41 now and a marginally passable bed partner. To make a long story short, I discovered that over time I had conditioned myself to associate pictures of women with pleasure and relaxation and actual women with hassle, fear, embarassment, and other emotional stresses that inevitably attend sex with strangers. This was the only sort of sex I was going to get because I wasn't interested in women personally. I wanted to bang them, but running out and pretending to like them in order to dupe them into a friendship that would eventually yield erotic fruit was just too much trouble--and I had neither the stomach nor the skill to run a deception like that in any case. I just wanted to play a fun little game, and since it was such a pain to find a partner I contented myself with single-player.

For the benefit of fellow nerds who are in a similar spot, know that I worked a good portion of multi-player into my gaming habits by finding a steady whore. No, shopping for tarts isn't much more pleasant than schmoozing up to bimbos on campus, but it is a far more clear-cut task and far more susceptible to the geek skill set. When you find one with the right combo of looks, attitude and price, stick with her and you're on the road to recovery. With each visit Mr. P will learn that the funny-looking critter with the squishy bits is a friend, and soon he will show happy to meet her. To speed the process, sniff her thoroughly. I'm not kidding. Keep the scent of her skin in your nostrils during sex and soon your stuff will stir at a mere sniff of her nape. It works like Pavlov's dinner bell.

I'd have much more fun in bed if I didn't have to pull dodges to overcome revulsion for women acquired in my sexually deprived youth. This could have been prevented if someone had been kind enough to get me laid. If I have a son I will be sure to do that for him. As soon as I detect the sound of someone gently fapping behind his chamber door that boy get a month's vacation from school to be spent in Thailand with skilled ladies who will tutor Willy while The Force is still strong in him.
 
2007-11-30 12:16:44 PM
(Looking around).... well thank God RugbyJock hasn't gotten in on this conversation.
 
2007-11-30 12:17:48 PM
I met a girl who said her parents still did it all the time and loudly. They were probably in their 40s. So that's one example of older people going nuts on each other.

My parents, AFAIK, weren't all that active at that age.

So I was freaking intimidated by this girl with the horny parents. I mean, I'm up for a challenge, but I could tell since she was the progeny of these two, she'd want it A LOT more than I would.

Unfortunately, I didn't get to find out (moved a few days after meeting her). It would have been fun for the first couple of days, but after that I bet I'd be begging for a rest.
 
2007-11-30 12:18:57 PM
PetuniaPumpkin: I'm a little surprised that the early 20's are considered late.

Most girls I know lost their virginity in their teens and most guys in their early 20's.

I just thought that was normal, no?


Where I'm from, 17 was considered late, and I was heartily abused for it.

/Yay Staten Island
 
2007-11-30 12:20:08 PM
luckybastard: I met a girl who said her parents still did it all the time and loudly. They were probably in their 40s. So that's one example of older people going nuts on each other.

My parents, AFAIK, weren't all that active at that age.

So I was freaking intimidated by this girl with the horny parents. I mean, I'm up for a challenge, but I could tell since she was the progeny of these two, she'd want it A LOT more than I would.

Unfortunately, I didn't get to find out (moved a few days after meeting her). It would have been fun for the first couple of days, but after that I bet I'd be begging for a rest.


Wow.

I suddenly feel like a starving man listening to some guy explain how hard it is to get into competitive eating.

/IdBeCrazyIf is Kobayashi.
 
2007-11-30 12:21:08 PM
westbound pachyderm: IdBeCrazyIf: techmom: Nope, don't think so, I've never claimed to be an expert at anything. I'm just straightforward, so socially inept that I never learned the finer points of flirting, or lying, or 'faking it'... and apparently that's a Good Thing, who knew?

We can Collaborate on it, turn it into a best seller coffee table book.

We could call it "Make Love*"
/*The techmom Way


"Bruce the chin" refs warm those areas of my sub-heartcockle regions that aren't deadened to stimuli.

OR: A most emphatic WIN! THIS! AND CLAPPING C. KANE all in one.
 
2007-11-30 12:21:41 PM
techmom: If you're collaborating, wouldn't it be more of a nightstand book?

Okay okay... you handle the book. I'll deal with the instructional videos.

westbound pachyderm: We could call it "Make Love*"
/*The techmom Way


Ohh how about this. It's a reversable book.

One side

"Make Love.. the Techmom way"

flip the book around and everything is the opposite contrast with the title

"Screw long hard and freaky.. the Idbecrazy way"
 
2007-11-30 12:24:22 PM
billsil:

I assume you have already established that you don't show any tendencies towards your own sex, and thus aren't confused about your sexual orientation. If that is true, I'd wager a guess that you suffer from a mild case of social phobia, at least to me it sounds like more than just your usual shyness.

If that's the case, there are many ways to counter your problems, especially cognitive behavior therapy in conjunction with SSRI's. You just need to talk to someone who's in the know.
 
2007-11-30 12:25:38 PM
kiam

You tell me i'm hostile, and going balistic,


Because you are being just that.

when all I'm hearing from your corner is that we should all give up and give into a boring sexless marriage.


Oh? Where did I say that? Quotes please. In fact I've stated I'm still trying to find an answer.

You're basically condeming me to your fate.


Where? Show me.

I'm stating that your position of "it's all your fault!" is coming from inexperience and not having to do any heavy lifting yet in your relationship. That's not an insult, we've all been there in a relationship before, where everything was cool and hip. Hell dude, I went a good long time in a really great relationship, pretty close to how you describe yours, before it happened. And it just happened like a brick wall popping up on the freeway. When you go on about "well do this for her, take her to Paris, make it all about her" etc. that tells me you think that I've not already tried all of these things. Which means to me, you are nowhere near where I've been experience wise, because those options are still valid ones to you. Life doesn't always do what you think it will do. If one of the two people in a relationship refuses to communicate in the least, these things you (and pop culture) suggest amount to nothing. As techmom wisely said, there are no magic secrets or tricks you can do to "make" something work. It takes two people, not just one, as the responsible party.

Maybe you'll have better luck. And I hope you do. But your current view that stating my position is "condemning you" is odd, to be honest. If you're not in any trouble now, how could you be condemned by my experiences?

Contrary to popular belief, many of us do not conform or do what teh TV/Media tell us to do. I will take that same attitude with you sir.


Actually everything you're prescribing to people on this thread are exactly what is prescribed in countless magazines, television and web sites. Research it a bit.

"Buy her flowers"
"Be romantic"
"Do more chores"
"Make it all about her"
"Take her someplace interesting like Paris"
"See it from her point of view"

They all have one root. That root is "she has no need to be responsible in the relationship, that's the man's job". That root essentially proclaims that you alone can change another person without them applying effort. The quest is yours, not theirs. You do A, she responds B, you both live happily ever after.

Doesn't work that way many times. If it does for you when your relationship hits a wall, assuming it does, then good on you. Telling other people they made bad judgments in picking a mate or "poor you", then giving generic pat advice dispensed by such lofty sources as Cosmopolitan are little more than signs of not having fought these battles yet. I can read about tactics and battles all the live long day, but until I've sat in the trenches a while with a gun and bayonet and taken part in the war there's no way I can speak with authority to those who have and be taken seriously.

I think I'll be much more interested in hearing your views on life and love in about 15 years or so more of marriage to be honest. Assuming FARK is still around then, heh.
 
2007-11-30 12:27:39 PM
This: /IdBeCrazyIf is Kobayashi.

Oddly enough the analogy is pretty sound.

I have spells where I 'eat' normally like most farkers 2 or 4 times a week, and then I'll binge 'eat' for 4 days straight on a myriad of 'foods'
 
2007-11-30 12:28:03 PM
IdBeCrazyIf:
Ohh how about this. It's a reversable book.

One side

"Make Love.. the Techmom way"

flip the book around and everything is the opposite contrast with the title

"Screw long hard and freaky.. the Idbecrazy way"


With a centerfold full of hot Farkettes entitled: CERTIFIED FAP MATERIAL
 
2007-11-30 12:28:10 PM
That's what high school is for!
 
2007-11-30 12:28:48 PM
IdBeCrazyIf: flip the book around and everything is the opposite contrast with the title

"Screw long hard and freaky.. the Idbecrazy way"


Why do I picture your half as a 'Pop-up' book?!?

/so, Drew, who's your agent/publisher? I think we've got a winner, here!
 
2007-11-30 12:31:17 PM
Dear Socially Maladjusted Farkers:

Hi. How're you doing today? I'm Ryan the Anti-Hero, and I'd like to tell you that I too was much like you. A computer nerd, obsessed with video games, anime, and too shy to talk to girls. The ones I did talk to were friends that I was desperately trying to get with but had little to no chance with.

Then, on the day I left home and journeyed to College, I found Alcohol.

Alcohol is the great equalizer. If it's late enough into the night and you're in the right place, it's almost impossible not to at least hook up. If you really want to.

Feel bad about taking advantage of a drunk girl? Then Keep Up! Drink yourself to the point where you're at least as drunk as her, or drunk enough to be more comfortable with making bad decisions!

And look at me today? A crazy, cynical, drunk and jaded bastard who's still a geek, just now goes out and does inadvisable things at least once a week.

You too can aspire to this!

Love,

Anti
 
2007-11-30 12:32:08 PM
My goal was to die a pure untouched virgin, I have unfortunately failed at that goal. *sigh*
 
2007-11-30 12:32:13 PM
LowPlainsDrifter:

Did i miss-read that or did you just compare your marriage to the trenches of war?
 
2007-11-30 12:32:40 PM
westbound pachyderm: IdBeCrazyIf:
Ohh how about this. It's a reversable book.

One side

"Make Love.. the Techmom way"

flip the book around and everything is the opposite contrast with the title

"Screw long hard and freaky.. the Idbecrazy way"

With a centerfold full of hot Farkettes entitled: CERTIFIED FAP MATERIAL


Also, a $2.00 off coupon for the IdBeCrazyIfIDidn'tUseThis brand dildo!
 
2007-11-30 12:32:55 PM
members.cox.net

Well, I guess I'm screwed. And not in a good way.
 
2007-11-30 12:33:06 PM
westbound pachyderm: With a centerfold full of hot Farkettes entitled: CERTIFIED FAP MATERIAL

This Book Is Worthless Without Frood.

/wasn't there some firedancing Farker who could be included for the ladies?

techmom: /so, Drew, who's your agent/publisher? I think we've got a winner, here!

Hmm, a hypothetical book about farking by Farkers, arranged by Fark's admin. Obviously, the title must be "make love/Screw long hard and freaky"
 
2007-11-30 12:36:20 PM
IdBeCrazyIf: ipsofacto

ipsofacto: Smarshmallow: Abox: Still waiting for that special someone.

Sex is like any other skill, the more teachers you have, the better you'll be. If you wait until the "special someone," then you'll have nothing new to bring to the table.

Riiiiiiiiight.

Nah this is pretty much the case.

I can tell right away how experienced a woman is in bed pretty quickly.



Sorry mate, but experienced != good. Perhaps your position may be moreso true in a man's case; but a woman who is well in touch with her own body, and who has done her research/communicated (in a non-physical sense) will be as good, if not better than a woman who strictly has had multiple partners.

What is true in many cases: more 'experience' == more psychological trauma.
 
2007-11-30 12:37:14 PM
RyanAntiHero

I Lol'd
 
2007-11-30 12:38:46 PM
RyanAntiHero: Dear Socially Maladjusted Farkers:

Hi. How're you doing today? I'm Ryan the Anti-Hero, and I'd like to tell you that I too was much like you. A computer nerd, obsessed with video games, anime, and too shy to talk to girls. The ones I did talk to were friends that I was desperately trying to get with but had little to no chance with.

Then, on the day I left home and journeyed to College, I found Alcohol.

Alcohol is the great equalizer. If it's late enough into the night and you're in the right place, it's almost impossible not to at least hook up. If you really want to.

Feel bad about taking advantage of a drunk girl? Then Keep Up! Drink yourself to the point where you're at least as drunk as her, or drunk enough to be more comfortable with making bad decisions!

And look at me today? A crazy, cynical, drunk and jaded bastard who's still a geek, just now goes out and does inadvisable things at least once a week.

You too can aspire to this!

Love,

Anti


The voice of a generation.
\yea, got nothin'
\\but many of the geeks i know don't know how to pick up drunk women. Or have something called "standards". Whatever those are
 
2007-11-30 12:40:15 PM
What is true in many cases: more 'experience' == more psychological trauma.

THIS
 
2007-11-30 12:42:14 PM
All the "good years" were between 18 and 24. If you missed that window, I'm so sorry.
 
2007-11-30 12:42:38 PM
hick_town:
The voice of a generation.
\yea, got nothin'
\\but many of the geeks i know don't know how to pick up drunk women. Or have something called "standards". Whatever those are


Yeah, I had those too.
That's why you get YOURSELF drunk too.
 
2007-11-30 12:44:24 PM
This: westbound pachyderm: With a centerfold full of hot Farkettes entitled: CERTIFIED FAP MATERIAL
This Book Is Worthless Without Frood.
/wasn't there some firedancing Farker who could be included for the ladies?


I'm here, I'm here... what'd I miss?
 
2007-11-30 12:45:53 PM
Zarkin Frood: This: westbound pachyderm: With a centerfold full of hot Farkettes entitled: CERTIFIED FAP MATERIAL
This Book Is Worthless Without Frood.
/wasn't there some firedancing Farker who could be included for the ladies?

I'm here, I'm here... what'd I miss?


You're certified fap material. Color me surprised. ;)
 
2007-11-30 12:46:09 PM
Former christian here. Yes, I waited for Jesus Christ to be present and happy with our marriage's first consummation like a good little lamb (age 22), and yes, it was more than a good year before we were able to properly have intercourse all the way through to a happy ending. Well, happy for me, anyway.

Here we are, married for over 12 years now, and sex is still something for which she admits she's uncomfortable. I've since gotten good at giving cunnilingus (the ONLY way she can have a "happy ending"), and she raves on and on about how, "We should do this more often!!!" right after the moment of truth. The next day, of course, she admits that she can't shake the feeling that anything remotely sexual is dirty and shameful, and having sex is about as desirable as raking the leaves.

If you read my posts in religious threads, maybe now you'll understand why I hate the Mind Virus that religion is. "Faith" is healthy for you, my ass!

/Maybe four times per year if it's a good one
 
2007-11-30 12:47:02 PM
westbound pachyderm: You're certified fap material. Color me surprised. ;)

Too bad she's already married to Kucinich, though.
 
2007-11-30 12:47:11 PM
I have had sex.

/yes, with women.
//that is all.
 
2007-11-30 12:47:19 PM
RyanAntiHero: hick_town:
The voice of a generation.
\yea, got nothin'
\\but many of the geeks i know don't know how to pick up drunk women. Or have something called "standards". Whatever those are

Yeah, I had those too.
That's why you get YOURSELF drunk too.


Sadly enough, when I've been that drunk, I've been told that I'm still a gentleman, for the most part. No clue how that happened.
 
2007-11-30 12:47:51 PM
LowPlainsDrifter:


But if you think you're going to wake up next to a sexual dynamo when you're in your late 30's to early 40's, you're probably setting yourself up for major disappointment.


Oh? Where did I say that? Quotes please. In fact I've stated I'm still trying to find an answer.




Oh look at that, an entire post full of contradicting quotes from you.
 
2007-11-30 12:48:07 PM
LowPlainsDrifter: kiam

You tell me i'm hostile, and going balistic,


Because you are being just that.

when all I'm hearing from your corner is that we should all give up and give into a boring sexless marriage.

Oh? Where did I say that? Quotes please. In fact I've stated I'm still trying to find an answer.

You're basically condeming me to your fate.

Where? Show me.


Your posts of: 2007-11-30 10:59:55 AM
2007-11-30 11:13:28 AM
2007-11-30 11:43:23 AM


all address kiam directly, and you consistently indicate that a sexless marriage is an inevitability. You use the word when, not if. You suggest that he will learn as he gets older, discounting his determination and his present happiness as being transitory. It seemed to boil down to, 'Just wait, you'll find out.'

Read those over again, but I got from them pretty much what kiam described. He was openly hostile while you were more passive-aggressive, but those posts were definite downers.

All perfectly reasonable - as long as you use the word 'if'. It would have made you seem less like a doom-and-gloom prophet.
 
2007-11-30 12:49:14 PM
Ow My Balls

maybe you should show her how the bible says Married Sex is awesome

the Bible is pretty clear Married Sex (Holy, Sacred, great) Unmarried sex..... none of those things

the bible does not even say Unmarried sex is bad and evil.. just not something you should do
 
2007-11-30 12:49:58 PM
Ow My Balls: Former christian here. Yes, I waited for Jesus Christ to be present and happy with our marriage's first consummation like a good little lamb (age 22), and yes, it was more than a good year before we were able to properly have intercourse all the way through to a happy ending. Well, happy for me, anyway.

Here we are, married for over 12 years now, and sex is still something for which she admits she's uncomfortable. I've since gotten good at giving cunnilingus (the ONLY way she can have a "happy ending"), and she raves on and on about how, "We should do this more often!!!" right after the moment of truth. The next day, of course, she admits that she can't shake the feeling that anything remotely sexual is dirty and shameful, and having sex is about as desirable as raking the leaves.

If you read my posts in religious threads, maybe now you'll understand why I hate the Mind Virus that religion is. "Faith" is healthy for you, my ass!

/Maybe four times per year if it's a good one


My girlfriend's a lapse Catholic, and she had the same problem for a long time. Still does, I think, but it's more of an unconscious thing. Except for the raking of leaves part.
 
2007-11-30 12:50:26 PM
I was neurotic about sex for a long time, being a chick who waited. Then the most conservative of my friends said something about the goal of any relationship she has is to remain pure until marriage and I wised up. Purity was never my goal. My goal is a faithful and loving relationship. Who gives a shiat about purity if you love the person?
 
2007-11-30 12:50:50 PM
hick_town

simple Jimmy Barley Corn only relaxes the normal social barriers we keep up because things in your head aren't supposed to come out

you don't act as a repugnant cur when drunk and lonely and wanting to get some because well... thats not who you are
 
2007-11-30 12:50:59 PM
techmom: LowPlainsDrifter: kiam

You tell me i'm hostile, and going balistic,

Because you are being just that.

when all I'm hearing from your corner is that we should all give up and give into a boring sexless marriage.

Oh? Where did I say that? Quotes please. In fact I've stated I'm still trying to find an answer.

You're basically condeming me to your fate.

Where? Show me.


Your posts of: 2007-11-30 10:59:55 AM
2007-11-30 11:13:28 AM
2007-11-30 11:43:23 AM

all address kiam directly, and you consistently indicate that a sexless marriage is an inevitability. You use the word when, not if. You suggest that he will learn as he gets older, discounting his determination and his present happiness as being transitory. It seemed to boil down to, 'Just wait, you'll find out.'

Read those over again, but I got from them pretty much what kiam described. He was openly hostile while you were more passive-aggressive, but those posts were definite downers.

All perfectly reasonable - as long as you use the word 'if'. It would have made you seem less like a doom-and-gloom prophet.


While Low Plains had some gloomy posts, he also seemed to hope that in fact, Kiam wouldn't end up in the same situation. To me, it seemed if Kiam came out acting like a dick with all the answers.
 
2007-11-30 12:51:06 PM
Hoping I can help one of you guys out with this, some kind soul posted this link a long time ago and I'm just passing on the favor, because it's helped me change my attitude :)

Oh, and take this link for what it is, nothing more.

Clicky
 
2007-11-30 12:52:36 PM
22 (almost 23) and still virgin, but not for lack of trying. My attempts end in bigger disaster the closer I get to succeeding, tis all.

/painfully shy in HS and most of college
//still a bit shy now
 
2007-11-30 12:53:19 PM
Ow My Balls
If you read my posts in religious threads, maybe now you'll understand why I hate the Mind Virus that religion is. "Faith" is healthy for you, my ass!

Dude, Jesus ain't the cause of your sex problems.
 
2007-11-30 12:55:47 PM
And the lord sayth to Moses: "Let it be known to all that correlation doth not indicate causation."

This study would have a an obvious self selection bias to indicate the conclusion in the headline.

Thus ends the lesson for the day.
 
2007-11-30 12:55:57 PM
bamph

kiam:
I never said i had all the asnwers, and i'm not trying to act like a know-it-all. But one thing i do know is that i will NEVER resolve myself to defeat as you apparently have. You have a sexless marriage and have apparently given up on it. While i know i dont have the answers nor knowledge of the future, one thing i know is that my personality will never allow me to give up on something like that, its far to important.


If you consider myself defending this as being a dick with all the answers i would ask that you read more clearly.
 
2007-11-30 12:57:11 PM
Perhaps you'd be more successful at having sex if you'd simply STOP MASTURBATING for a few hours...
 
2007-11-30 12:57:22 PM

kiam:


But if you think you're going to wake up next to a sexual dynamo when you're in your late 30's to early 40's, you're probably setting yourself up for major disappointment.


Oh? Where did I say that? Quotes please. In fact I've stated I'm still trying to find an answer.



Oh look at that, an entire post full of contradicting quotes from you.


The word "probably" is not "you will be". And as I've mentioned before many times, I'm hoping it doesn't happen to you. I've also indicated that not all women do this in a marriage. So how that is condemning you has still yet to be shown I'm afraid.

And to techmom, the reason I address kiam directly is because we're having a direct conversation. It seems kind of rude to answer his posts without naming him or quoting him.
 
2007-11-30 12:57:28 PM
BionicAmoeba

you might read the article where they say that on page one

then on page two CLAIM causation
 
2007-11-30 12:57:55 PM
karasoth: hick_town

simple Jimmy Barley Corn only relaxes the normal social barriers we keep up because things in your head aren't supposed to come out

you don't act as a repugnant cur when drunk and lonely and wanting to get some because well... thats not who you are


So I've been told. But I do enjoy hearing the tone of their voices when they tell me. They're usually surprised that I didn't try anything.

And on a completely unrelated note: a Mason, huh? Does one need to be sponsored to join a lodge? Because I've wanted to join one for a while, but haven't had a chance to ask the only Mason I know to sponsor me.
 
2007-11-30 12:58:28 PM
Tips on getting together with women from an old dude.

Bathe.
When you make eye contact, don't hesitate to say hello and ask her name.
Remeber her name.
Be amusing.
Remain cool.
Listen to her stories, too.
Smile.
Look at her eyes while you're conversing.
Furtively check out her rack/butt, letting her catch you.
Smile again, a little ornerier.
Be able to tell a good self-deprecating yet funny story about yourself.
Order drinks with confidence.
Buy her one.
Stand up when she goes to the bathroom.
Say "excuse me a moment" when you go to the bathroom.
Accept the drink she buys you.

You are now scoring position.
 
2007-11-30 12:59:12 PM
Guntram Shatterhand: The more I think about it, the more this study seems to be more right-wing propaganda.

Are you retarded or something?
 
2007-11-30 01:00:04 PM
hick_town:
Sadly enough, when I've been that drunk, I've been told that I'm still a gentleman, for the most part. No clue how that happened.


I don't understand your correlation between lack of standards and not being a gentleman.
You can do both. Just know the difference between when you're being a "gentleman" and when you're being an "obstinate prude".

/it takes time and practice
//you need to spend time with some asshole friends to learn the difference. Then you're all good
 
2007-11-30 01:00:44 PM
Longtime virgins shouldn't get too depressed. As great as sex with another person is, masturbation is actually very underrated.
 
2007-11-30 01:00:44 PM
Hetfield: Too bad she's already married to Kucinich, though.

The best ones of both sexes usually are.

westbound pachyderm: Zarkin Frood: This: westbound pachyderm: With a centerfold full of hot Farkettes entitled: CERTIFIED FAP MATERIAL
This Book Is Worthless Without Frood.
/wasn't there some firedancing Farker who could be included for the ladies?

I'm here, I'm here... what'd I miss?

You're certified fap material. Color me surprised. ;)


This thread is still missing two things

Chza and Daffy

westbound pachyderm: Also, a $2.00 off coupon for the IdBeCrazyIfIDidn'tUseThis brand dildo!

I think I'd like to partner with the vaculock stuff since it roxors.

ipsofacto: Sorry mate, but experienced != good. Perhaps your position may be moreso true in a man's case; but a woman who is well in touch with her own body, and who has done her research/communicated (in a non-physical sense) will be as good, if not better than a woman who strictly has had multiple partners.

What is true in many cases: more 'experience' == more psychological trauma.


Not always, but I have found the general inexperience can lead to awkward moments in bed. I'll rephrase it though.. even inexperienced players can be fun. The key is telling your partner what you like... so yeah I guess I'll buy the communication/research bit.

Nothing wrong with a partner with some trauma... makes for a more wild ride.
 
2007-11-30 01:01:20 PM
hick_town

yes you do need a sponsor to join a masonic lodge. BUT if you call up/Email the nearest Masonic lodge to you and say "I'm interested in joining" odds are good if their isn't another Mason you are unaware of in your life some one from that lodge will meet you and get to know you enough to sponsor you

/Glad to help
 
2007-11-30 01:01:40 PM
Did i miss-read that or did you just compare your marriage to the trenches of war?


It's called an analogy. Had I stated the same situation only about growing and picking oranges, or only reading about growing oranges, the same truth would apply. Would you have answered "Did i miss-read that or did you just compare your marriage to growing and picking oranges"?

The mindset in both is the same however, hopefully you can see what I'm trying to say.
 
2007-11-30 01:02:24 PM
bamph: While Low Plains had some gloomy posts, he also seemed to hope that in fact, Kiam wouldn't end up in the same situation. To me, it seemed if Kiam came out acting like a dick with all the answers.

I make more allowances for youth and hope. My take on it came from that single word, 'when' - instead of if. No matter how many times he said 'I hope not', every! time! he followed it up with 'when'. (But I'm a female, so I don't react the same to confrontation as a male would.)

I don't believe that it's as simple as doing romantic things, or choosing the right partner. No surefire method, remember?

A quote from Pearl S. Buck: To eat bread without hope is still slowly to starve to death.

You may as well pull wings off flies, as tell someone that there is no hope for any other outcome (and let's not bring up cancer patients, different situation). Both are cruel.
 
2007-11-30 01:02:57 PM
FTA Men who lose their virginity in their 20s, in particular, seemed to be more likely to experience sexual problems that include difficulty becoming sexually aroused

I was 24 the first time, it was about a year ago.

My girlfriend and I are taking a long vacation soon. Yesterday I was talking to her on the phone while I was at work, she told me to be prepared for lots of sex when we're on the trip. I decided it was best to stay seated at my desk for a few minutes. I guess I'm the exception to the findings of the study.
 
2007-11-30 01:03:03 PM
LowPlainsDrifter

Okay, truce, lets just let this go. I apologize if i was a dick. Lets just resolve this as an agreement to disagree.

For the record it did sound like you were telling me to "Just wait, your marriage will eventually suck", and yes, i took that personally and retaliated. Especially since i was hearing from someone who apparently has given up. You say that you dont want to hear that "its all the mans fault". While we only have power over ourselves, if you were indeed connected to your wife enough to marry her it seems that you would at least know how to convey feelings and communicate with one-another.


Either way i dont want to continue the argument/debate/whatever.

To each his own. BUT i will say that while i appreciate your tidings of good luck, i think you need it more.


Good Luck.
 
2007-11-30 01:03:37 PM
Dammit.
 
2007-11-30 01:05:48 PM
IdBeCrazyIf:

This thread is still missing two things

Chza and Daffy



RIP, guys. RIP.
 
2007-11-30 01:07:00 PM
kiam: bamph

kiam:
I never said i had all the asnwers, and i'm not trying to act like a know-it-all. But one thing i do know is that i will NEVER resolve myself to defeat as you apparently have. You have a sexless marriage and have apparently given up on it. While i know i dont have the answers nor knowledge of the future, one thing i know is that my personality will never allow me to give up on something like that, its far to important.

If you consider myself defending this as being a dick with all the answers i would ask that you read more clearly.


It's simple, you've sounded like an arrogant know-it-all in most of your posts to Low Plains. I thought you sounded like a dick.
 
2007-11-30 01:07:35 PM
IdBeCrazyIf:
I'm here, I'm here... what'd I miss?
You're certified fap material. Color me surprised. ;)
This thread is still missing two things
Chza and Daffy


Well, good luck with that... they've gone over to The Darkside™
 
2007-11-30 01:08:44 PM
kiam and LowPlainsDrifter:

Good. Now hug it out, biatches.
 
2007-11-30 01:08:51 PM
IdBeCrazyIf: Hetfield: Too bad she's already married to Kucinich, though.

The best ones of both sexes usually are.


Really? That Kucinich sure gets around!
 
2007-11-30 01:09:06 PM
Wow!!
Teh headline was filled with correct-ness!!!!!

My brain stopped working reading through all these over-24yr old virgin posts...

I'm going to shoot my goo in my wife tonight, just like I did night before last, and the night before that...

My peener is happy
 
2007-11-30 01:09:11 PM
Zarkin Frood: The Darkside™

Myspace?
 
2007-11-30 01:09:21 PM
ShannonKW: I lost mine at about age 20. I have to say "about" because the first few times I managed to get a receptive partner naked my peen never stiffened. When I finally achieved enough stiffness to do the deed...etc.i>

Christ.

What is this?

Group friggin therapy?
 
2007-11-30 01:10:11 PM
hick_town:\\but many of the geeks i know don't know how to pick up drunk women. Or have something called "standards". Whatever those are

Standards are the Great Satan of the geek sexual aspirant. If air-brushed teen hotties fuel your fantasies, there is no hope of you finding satisfaction unless your family is rich. To banish standards you must gain experience with the admittedly unbeautiful girls who can be presuaded to insert something as unbeautiful as you into themselves. With enough experience you will find that an ounce of wantonness makes up for a pound of ugly.
 
2007-11-30 01:10:51 PM
liberalish: Oh and this: "Our results do not allow for causal interpretations," the study authors write.

That is, there may be something else (like a low base testosterone level triggering low overall sex drive) causing both.
 
2007-11-30 01:11:02 PM
loki see loki do: Say "excuse me a moment" when you go to the bathroom.

Is it acceptable to say "I gotta see a man about a horse" while doing so?
 
2007-11-30 01:11:19 PM
LowPlainsDrifter And to techmom, the reason I address kiam directly is because we're having a direct conversation. It seems kind of rude to answer his posts without naming him or quoting him.

That was not what I thought objectionable, it was indeed a courtesy. But what of the rest of my post?
 
2007-11-30 01:11:38 PM
blubberknife: ShannonKW: I lost mine at about age 20. I have to say "about" because the first few times I managed to get a receptive partner naked my peen never stiffened. When I finally achieved enough stiffness to do the deed...etc.i>

Christ.

What is this?

Group friggin therapy?


New to a Fark sex thread? Take one part misogyny, one Sue Johannssen, and one part bragging, and this is what you get.
 
2007-11-30 01:11:54 PM
This: Zarkin Frood: The Darkside™

Myspace?


Seventh Day Adventists?
 
2007-11-30 01:13:00 PM
Oh noes!!!

I'm
- in my early 20's
- still a virgin
- music nerd
- Farker
- work in a library
- thin/average looking
- have only had two GF's in the past 7 years (both lasting under 4 months in duration).

Am i screwed?
 
2007-11-30 01:13:26 PM
Lost it at 17. First FFM 3some at 18 - been going strong ever since!
 
2007-11-30 01:13:40 PM
IdBeCrazyIf: techmom: If you're collaborating, wouldn't it be more of a nightstand book?

Okay okay... you handle the book. I'll deal with the instructional videos.

westbound pachyderm: We could call it "Make Love*"
/*The techmom Way

Ohh how about this. It's a reversable book.

One side

"Make Love.. the Techmom way"

flip the book around and everything is the opposite contrast with the title

"Screw long hard and freaky.. the Idbecrazy way"



I don't know... that much smug self-satisfaction and shameless back-patting all in one place might put some people off...
 
2007-11-30 01:14:09 PM
techmom: LowPlainsDrifter And to techmom, the reason I address kiam directly is because we're having a direct conversation. It seems kind of rude to answer his posts without naming him or quoting him.

That was not what I thought objectionable, it was indeed a courtesy. But what of the rest of my post?


Ah, nevermind. I refresh slowly, I think our LAN is wonky today. Carry on, all.

/I can't believe that no-one commented on the popup book?
 
2007-11-30 01:14:23 PM
techmom:

To the rest of your post, I think you're either reading something into it I didn't intend, or I miscommunicated and had more of a prophetic tone than perhaps I should have. That said, again, the phenomenon of sexless relationships and asexual modern women is huge the last ten to twenty years or so, so when I go on about "well, you're probably going to find yourself", I'm talking more from statistical probability than some kind of accusation. When I cap those posts off with "and I know some women aren't like this" and "I honestly hope this doesn't happen to you and if it does I hope your viewpoint works out for you" should hopefully indicate a lack of malice.
 
2007-11-30 01:14:25 PM
RyanAntiHero: hick_town:
Sadly enough, when I've been that drunk, I've been told that I'm still a gentleman, for the most part. No clue how that happened.

I don't understand your correlation between lack of standards and not being a gentleman.
You can do both. Just know the difference between when you're being a "gentleman" and when you're being an "obstinate prude".

/it takes time and practice
//you need to spend time with some asshole friends to learn the difference. Then you're all good


Oh, I never said I had a problem with standards. Which tended to be of the "sharp knees" variety, now that I think about it. And the "gentleman" part was their phrasing, not mine. I should have been more specific. If was more of a shock to them that I didn't try anything (which would have been shot down anyway), and that led to me being more desirable to them (which I found out later). But you're probably right about the "prude" bit. I've always had a bit of fear of taking advantage of a woman, and that's held me back at times. Gotten better, though.

As for asshole-ish friends, I have plenty of them. I try get to wingman for a few of them at times, but that usually ends up in failure.

\I speak English, I never said I could convey thoughts through English, well.
 
2007-11-30 01:15:12 PM
Third_Uncle_Eno: Oh noes!!!

I'm
- in my early 20's
- still a virgin
- music nerd
- Farker
- work in a library
- thin/average looking
- have only had two GF's in the past 7 years (both lasting under 4 months in duration).

Am i screwed?


Well, if you were a female, that one would probably work in your favor
 
2007-11-30 01:15:32 PM
cerberus9: I don't know... that much smug self-satisfaction and shameless back-patting all in one place might put some people off...

Someone needs to get laid.
 
2007-11-30 01:15:49 PM
techmom:

/I can't believe that no-one commented on the popup book?


Because we all know that it's not the book that's doing the popping. Har dee har har! =)
 
2007-11-30 01:16:06 PM
Getting a late start on sex is like being a Red Sox fan. The catching-up is fun as hell, even if the first couple of partners just kind of lay there like dead fish.
 
2007-11-30 01:16:49 PM
techmom: cerberus9: I don't know... that much smug self-satisfaction and shameless back-patting all in one place might put some people off...

Someone needs to get laid.


techm0wn3d!
 
2007-11-30 01:18:12 PM
techmom: cerberus9: I don't know... that much smug self-satisfaction and shameless back-patting all in one place might put some people off...

Someone needs to get laid.


Don't tell me your problems...
 
2007-11-30 01:18:39 PM
westbound pachyderm: IdBeCrazyIf:

This thread is still missing two things

Chza and Daffy

RIP, guys. RIP.


I'm still in mourning. *snif*
 
2007-11-30 01:18:40 PM
ShannonKW: hick_town:\\but many of the geeks i know don't know how to pick up drunk women. Or have something called "standards". Whatever those are

Standards are the Great Satan of the geek sexual aspirant. If air-brushed teen hotties fuel your fantasies, there is no hope of you finding satisfaction unless your family is rich. To banish standards you must gain experience with the admittedly unbeautiful girls who can be presuaded to insert something as unbeautiful as you into themselves. With enough experience you will find that an ounce of wantonness makes up for a pound of ugly.


This. I do remember my single days. Beer goggles are magical devices, and soon after wearing them the first few times, you don't need them anymore. You learn the very important difference between "drop-dead gorgeous" and "hot enough to be worth a shot". Very few women are drop dead gorgeous, and even fewer of those are worth your time.

Most of them are hot enough to be worth a shot. For most guys, that basically means "no fat chicks". Hell, even fat's fine as long as they don't weigh more than you do (skinny or obese guys will obviously have a different upper-bound, but I'm pretty midrange).

As an unhappily married man, let me tell you: the ones you miss are the fun ones, not the hot ones.
 
2007-11-30 01:18:49 PM
hick_town:
Oh, I never said I had a problem with standards. Which tended to be of the "sharp knees" variety, now that I think about it. And the "gentleman" part was their phrasing, not mine. I should have been more specific. If was more of a shock to them that I didn't try anything (which would have been shot down anyway), and that led to me being more desirable to them (which I found out later). But you're probably right about the "prude" bit. I've always had a bit of fear of taking advantage of a woman, and that's held me back at times. Gotten better, though.

As for asshole-ish friends, I have plenty of them. I try get to wingman for a few of them at times, but that usually ends up in failure.

\I speak English, I never said I could convey thoughts through English, well.


Never wingman for an asshole. You end up looking like an asshole for associating with them in that context, thus farking your "gentleman" reputation.

/and no one likes to slay the dragon.
//Unless you do
///then you wouldn't be havin this problem.
 
2007-11-30 01:20:15 PM
Gulper Eel: Is it acceptable to say "I gotta see a man about a horse" while doing so?

Only if you are wearing a cowboy hat.
 
2007-11-30 01:20:44 PM
loki see loki do: Tips on getting together with women from an old dude.

Bathe.
...


Whoa there... that's crazy talk.



Third_Uncle_Eno:Oh noes!!!

I'm
- in my early 20's
- still a virgin
- music nerd
- Farker
- work in a library
- thin/average looking
- have only had two GF's in the past 7 years (both lasting under 4 months in duration).

Am i screwed?


Apparently not.
 
2007-11-30 01:21:01 PM
LowPlainsDrifter: When I cap those posts off with "and I know some women aren't like this" and "I honestly hope this doesn't happen to you and if it does I hope your viewpoint works out for you" should hopefully indicate a lack of malice.

*Curtsies to a gentleman*
 
2007-11-30 01:22:25 PM
cerberus9: I don't know... that much smug self-satisfaction and shameless back-patting all in one place might put some people off...

Hence the coffee table, I wouldn't actually think anyone would take the both of us farking seriously.

This: New to a Fark sex thread? Take one part misogyny, one Sue Johannssen, and one part bragging, and this is what you get.

And even then really, this thread is pretty tame compared to where they can go. The truly epic threads are deleted by 3pm.
 
2007-11-30 01:22:32 PM
Third_Uncle_Eno: Oh noes!!!

I'm
- in my early 20's
- still a virgin
- music nerd
- Farker
- work in a library
- thin/average looking
- have only had two GF's in the past 7 years (both lasting under 4 months in duration).

Am i screwed?


I had my first gf in college, it lasted a week until she dumped me. 2nd gf lasted about 1 year. I didn't even go on a date for 4 years after that. Then out of nowhere my first gf emailed my and said "I've though about you almost every day for 6 years and want you back". I lost it to her about a year ago. I'm about 30 lbs overweight, and a nerd. She is quite hot.

There's still hope, or maybe I'm just really lucky



\she was a cheerleader in high school
\\she was little bopeep for halloween
\\\no pics
\\\\remember the rainbow brite incident
 
2007-11-30 01:32:02 PM
2 things:

1) LowPlainsDrifter is one smart fark. I tip my hat to you.

2) Fark as many girls as possible while you're young. Lost mine at 16 and have done well for myself. Not bragging but I get my fair share of tail. Guys and girls....seriously sex is fun. Don't have weird hangups about it. Fark while you're young and not busy with other stuff. That is all.
 
2007-11-30 01:32:16 PM
RyanAntiHero: hick_town:
Oh, I never said I had a problem with standards. Which tended to be of the "sharp knees" variety, now that I think about it. And the "gentleman" part was their phrasing, not mine. I should have been more specific. If was more of a shock to them that I didn't try anything (which would have been shot down anyway), and that led to me being more desirable to them (which I found out later). But you're probably right about the "prude" bit. I've always had a bit of fear of taking advantage of a woman, and that's held me back at times. Gotten better, though.

As for asshole-ish friends, I have plenty of them. I try get to wingman for a few of them at times, but that usually ends up in failure.

\I speak English, I never said I could convey thoughts through English, well.

Never wingman for an asshole. You end up looking like an asshole for associating with them in that context, thus farking your "gentleman" reputation.

/and no one likes to slay the dragon.
//Unless you do
///then you wouldn't be havin this problem.


Well put, and well played.
 
2007-11-30 01:32:24 PM
LowPlainsDrifter: You know it's a reality when shows like 20/20, Oprah and 60 Minutes do full length reporting on how sexless marriages have become...

Oh well, if TeeVee says it then it must be true!

LowPlainsDrifter: Yes Kiam, you have all the answers. You're ready for everything life has to throw at you, and fortunately, life is perfectly logical and responds to plans and reasoning and conditional IF/THEN thinking. Good luck in life dude, you're going to need it.

Funny, you are calling someone else a snotnosed know-it-all...Sorry, loser, you don't suddenly become a sage simply cuz you got to 35. Guess what? There are guys who are even older than you popping Viagra so they can bang their wife more and later in life. What about those guys? They have ads for Viagra on the TeeVee too...as if you need more proof!

You are UltraFail. I suggest you hang yourself and let your wife find you...that'll show her!
 
2007-11-30 01:42:23 PM
Thanks asmodeus224. I hope that made you feel better about yourself.
 
2007-11-30 01:44:25 PM
Jeebus Hotdog: 1) LowPlainsDrifter is one smart fark. I tip my hat to you.


Heh, thanks man. Not sure what I said that sound smart, but I'm willing to take an unsolicited compliment and milk it for all its worth! :)
 
2007-11-30 01:44:41 PM
techmom: He could get in my pants easily right now (well, if it weren't for certain logistical problems, not to mention that whole 'fidelity' hangup of mine...).

Hey! I thought I had dibs!

P.S. The pop-up book joke was quality, maybe we need a voting system to show appreciation for the good ones without having to post. I thought my NASCAR "tight in, loose out" would get a request for a new keyboard from someone, but apparently not.

billsil: back in high school, i was actually popular with girls. i was just too naive and shy to actually make a move.

Recently someone from my old high school spotted me on myspace, 23 years after I graduated one year ahead of her. I vaguely knew of her, but don't remember ever having had any classes with her, talking with her, etc. It seems likely to me that she must have had a thing for me back then to recognize me in those circumstances 23 years later. Makes me wonder how many others...

Sadly, I was so shy people thought I was a horrible snob until they got to know me. Happily, the shyness waned to workable levels around age 20, and since then...
 
2007-11-30 01:45:32 PM
Yeah, I'm almost 21 and still a virgin, but I'd say it has less to do with dysfunction and more to do with the fact that I'm a socially awkward, morbidly obese, autistic dork.
 
2007-11-30 01:47:41 PM
Belltower: Makes me wonder how many others...

More than you'll ever realize honestly.

Even as super freak, I found out about a couple of girls who had things for me back in HS. Looking back on it, I was just totally oblivious to the advances.

Much older and wiser now though.
 
2007-11-30 01:50:50 PM
yeah, i knew that "am i screwed?" was a poor choice of words as soon as I posted it. [headdesk]

but i couldn't think of another like-sentence at the time.
[need coffee]

jaahuuu
you are lucky. you lucky lucky bastard. Thanks for the kind words. :-)
wow it's awesome that she only went out with you for a week then 6 years later wanted to go out with you again. You must've made quite an impression on her. Either that or she went through the rounds with all the handsome jocks and rich preppy's and saw that they didn't fulfill her as much as she thought they would, so she went back into her past and came up with you???
 
2007-11-30 01:51:36 PM
NeuroticRocker 2007-11-30 06:40:35 AM
I'm 26 in less than a month.

when I was 21, I spent a couple of times with this girl, who quite frankly was a biatch.

she kept telling me that she didn't like me or even find me attractive, and she was just using me. she wouldn't let me touch her, and there was no fore or afterplay. and everytime I came, it was without orgasm, because everytime I got it up, shed insult me....however, she was impressed with my package, and that's why I was chosen I guess.

but, I had to think of other girls to finish, or even get aroused. like I said, it was always without orgasm.

the only reason I put up with it was because at that age, she was the only girl I had been naked in front of or with, and had no prior experience, except hugs.

no I'm not gay, I had a very farked up upbringing and wasn't around people until I was in my 20s, and I still have a very hard time dealing with.

so...im a reclusive loner loser, but fine with that.

almost 26 and haven't had any real experience.....i may not have physical dysfunction, but the emotional dysfunction is enough to make me physically unable to reach my potential.


Overshare, thy name is NeuroticRocker. Oh, and...shut up, fag.
 
2007-11-30 01:56:56 PM
Belltower: techmom: He could get in my pants easily right now (well, if it weren't for certain logistical problems, not to mention that whole 'fidelity' hangup of mine...).

Hey! I thought I had dibs!


I'm obviously just a slut. Is that wrong of me? Should I not do that? ;)

Besides, I thought you opted for 'serial monogamy'; this is just a little fling, he doesn't mean anything to me baby...
 
2007-11-30 01:57:29 PM
Well hell, looks like I've got all of you beat...I lost my virginity at birth. I've got to admit, though, I felt a little silly afterwards, nine months of careful planning and it turned out the trick was just "turn around really quickly". Oh well, all's well that ends well.
 
2007-11-30 01:58:51 PM
I was a virgin until I discovered chloroform and duct tape.
 
2007-11-30 02:05:09 PM
Those who lose their virginity at a later age -- around 21 to 23 years of age -- tend to be more likely to experience sexual dysfunction problems later,

Then I am in every metaphorical sense, and no literal sense, screwed.

/hasn't even had a first kiss
 
2007-11-30 02:13:37 PM
This: Myspace?

Yes. And that other Website That Shall Not Be Named.. or else I too shall go the way of the Chza and the Daffy.
 
2007-11-30 02:14:23 PM
CornFedIowan: Those who lose their virginity at a later age -- around 21 to 23 years of age -- tend to be more likely to experience sexual dysfunction problems later,

Then I am in every metaphorical sense, and no literal sense, screwed.

/hasn't even had a first kiss


Ok, that's sorta depressing.
There's a game. It's called "Spin the Bottle". It's pretty popular for junior high school-high schoolers, though I've seen it (played it) in college students, using a 750 of JD they recently downed.
You need to do this, if for nothing else than practice.

/if all else fails, I hear boxed wine can save anyone
 
2007-11-30 02:15:11 PM
DaCaptain19

Overshare, thy name is NeuroticRocker. Oh, and...shut up, fag.

Um, no one forced you to read it. . .
 
2007-11-30 02:18:44 PM
RyanAntiHero

I'm out of college, I don't drink, and such a game requires having friends.
 
2007-11-30 02:19:35 PM
I thought I had a foolproof way to break my shyness-inflicted dry spell.

Since it was no problem for me to talk to female co-workers and other women who were otherwise spoken for, I pledged to myself one night that I would only consider the next available woman I met as a potential professional acquaintance or friend, and nothing more, just to see if I could get over that hump, before proceeding on to anything involving thrashing around in the percales.

The very next day, I'm in this little gourmet-food shop looking over the merchandise, and behind me comes a voice asking me if I like Dean Martin. "Sure," I said, and turned around.

And behind the counter was the most beautiful woman I had ever seen up until that point in my life. Imagine yourself a Nigella Lawson, but make her blond and 27 and from a little town outside Milwaukee.

The old me would have instantly entered Flop-Sweating Desperate Loser mode, but I remembered my pledge to myself, and held it together, and damned if we didn't hit it off. Here was a woman who would have needed a water cannon to keep the men away, and she was spending her time with dork-ass me. We got along wonderfully for months, to the point where our friends were remarking what a cute couple we made, even though nothing was going on between us and I really wanted my friends to change the subject and quick.

So one night, the night after Christmas, she's having dinner over at my place because I wanted to show her a thing or two in the kitchen even if she was a Culinary Institute wizard and I was a step or two above ramen noodles. So I made chili, because I'm sexy like that. After dinner, we sit down on the couch in front of the Christmas tree, the fire crackling away in the fireplace, the moon shining off the new-fallen snow, and she leans in and says to me So far, so good...

And I choked.

Brother and sister farkers, I choked like (Rex Grossman x Jean van de Velde + Mama Cass) ^ the 2007 Mets.

A few months later, she moved back to Wisconsin and I never heard from her again, and I spent about 18 more months kicking myself for screwing up a chance to at least show this woman the most amazing four seconds of unbridled rampant passion she'd ever experienced. I went on kicking myself until an ex-girlfriend of mine from college pointed out that if this woman had gotten to the point where she was romantically interested in me, then there was no such thing as a woman who was out of my league.

Cue the Mormon Tablernacle Choir. The scales fell from my eyes as I had the mother of all "a-ha!" moments. I never stumbled again, and my prospects improved exponentially after that. (This, incidentally, is why you should at least try to stay on good terms with the exes.) A couple girlfriends later, I went on a hiking date with another stunning young woman...think Dana Delany in China Beach minus Vietnam, plus Quebec...and we got down to a nice secluded spot by the river that had lots of cool stones for skipping, and once that was over with she turned to me and said...So far, so good.

Whoa.

I took that as an unambiguous sign that I'd better not choke twice, so being the thorough sort of guy I am, I married her.
 
2007-11-30 02:19:58 PM
CornFedIowan: I don't drink

I think we've isolated the source of your problems.

And yes, not having female friends is a vicious circle - your ineptitude around women prevents you from getting enough contact to relax around women.
 
2007-11-30 02:23:16 PM
or else I too shall go the way of the Chza and the Daffy.

Alas, Poon also has been banned for linking the unlinkable.
 
2007-11-30 02:23:57 PM
Wow, some of you guys need to find out about the Seduction Community, and in a big way.
 
2007-11-30 02:26:09 PM
ditch the "oh poor me, i can't get a girl" attitude and things will probably improve
 
2007-11-30 02:26:43 PM
danlpoon: or else I too shall go the way of the Chza and the Daffy.

Alas, Poon also has been banned for linking the unlinkable.


???

Now you've got me curious. FFS, give me a hint.
 
2007-11-30 02:27:02 PM
bastaroid: I'm 20 and still a virgin, but that article makes it sound I'm a virgin by choice.

I can't figure out how to charm a woman. no matter what i do they hates me, and I'm not even fat


Confidence...you lack it.

That's all you need.
 
2007-11-30 02:28:54 PM
Farkin-Lurker: Confidence...you lack it.

Yeah. Be comfortable with yourself. Accept who you are and relax and you'll do just fine.
 
2007-11-30 02:29:20 PM
Within 6 months of moving out on my own at the tender age of twenty, I had turned down two very attractive women, despite wanting both them and to lose my cherry. It just didn't feel right. I remember thinking "this is gonna be EASY".

Then nothing, for seven years. And precious little since.

/BFD
//There's a lot to be said for just playing with yourself.
 
2007-11-30 02:30:46 PM
smoothvirus

Wow, some of you guys need to find out about the Seduction Community, and in a big way.

Some guys don't care to betray their most important values and put on some ridiculous act simply to score a bit of poon.
 
2007-11-30 02:31:21 PM
danlpoon: or else I too shall go the way of the Chza and the Daffy.

Alas, Poon also has been banned for linking the unlinkable.


I wish I knew what the hell all ya'all are talking about. I apparently don't spend enough time on Fark, or should shell out for the TF package
 
2007-11-30 02:32:56 PM
Sigh.... 20 and still virgin, Well I have one potential girl who started messaging me on facebook, maybe there is a chance at me not screwing myself over later in life.
 
2007-11-30 02:33:13 PM
Now you've got me curious. FFS, give me a hint.

I used two girls, one cup in a rickroll. Naughty poon!
 
2007-11-30 02:36:09 PM
Skeptos: smoothvirus

Wow, some of you guys need to find out about the Seduction Community, and in a big way.

Some guys don't care to betray their most important values and put on some ridiculous act simply to score a bit of poon.


Some people, especially yon virgins, need to re-evaluate their "most important values". A lot of times, the values you hold dear aren't ones that you should be.
 
2007-11-30 02:36:17 PM
Skeptos: smoothvirus

Wow, some of you guys need to find out about the Seduction Community, and in a big way.

Some guys don't care to betray their most important values and put on some ridiculous act simply to score a bit of poon.


You don't have to sacrifice your dignity. The seduction community is misogynistic, exploitive, and nasty... so don't take the advice that's misogynistic, exploitive, and nasty.

Look at it this way: you know you're a good guy. A better guy than a lot of very successful womanizers. However, you have an inexplicable field of "creepy loser" that scares women off. Plus, you have no idea where and how to meet women, even if you want to be honest and gentlemanly with them.

Even without going into the nasty head-games those sites suggest, they'll tell you how to get rid of the "creepy loser" field, and where and how to meet women.

What do you have to lose by reading?
 
2007-11-30 02:36:56 PM
Some guys don't care to betray their most important values and put on some ridiculous act simply to score a bit of poon.

You're right. It's all lies, manipulation, and deceit. Pickup artists are all liars. They never get laid. Ever.
 
2007-11-30 02:38:34 PM
Just stay married for a long time.

Your virginity returns!
Yahoo!

/d'oh
 
2007-11-30 02:39:07 PM
Skeptos: Some guys don't care to betray their most important values and put on some ridiculous act simply to score a bit of poon.

most important values?!?

There's something more important than sex?
 
2007-11-30 02:39:22 PM
techmom: Besides, I thought you opted for 'serial monogamy'; this is just a little fling, he doesn't mean anything to me baby...

Yep, just making sure I'm first in line just in case. :-)
 
2007-11-30 02:42:32 PM
You don't have to sacrifice your dignity. The seduction community is misogynistic, exploitive, and nasty... so don't take the advice that's misogynistic, exploitive, and nasty.

You have not been reading the right books, grasshopper.
 
2007-11-30 02:44:02 PM
Belltower: Yep, just making sure I'm first in line just in case. :-)

Not to put too fine a point on it (and everyone likes a li'l ego-boo), when you made the offer I checked your profile and thought, "Hell, yeah!"

/Mrs. Belltower's a lucky gal
 
2007-11-30 02:45:42 PM
techmom: I'm obviously just a slut. Is that wrong of me? Should I not do that? ;)


I think you should make yourself more available... you seem closed off and introvert...BOOM!

sarcam meter broken
 
2007-11-30 02:45:57 PM
a bit of poon.

Poon doesn't come in "bits". Poon comes in buckets!
 
2007-11-30 02:46:36 PM
smoothvirus

Skeptos: Some guys don't care to betray their most important values and put on some ridiculous act simply to score a bit of poon.

You're right. It's all lies, manipulation, and deceit. Pickup artists are all liars. They never get laid. Ever.

I'm sure they get laid. But at what cost?
 
2007-11-30 02:48:14 PM
~18~ 3rd date with the guy--turned out to be a jerk, but was passable in the sack.

24 now and found a keeper!

Loves me the sexy sexy sex!
 
2007-11-30 02:48:15 PM
danlpoon: a bit of poon.

Poon doesn't come in "bits". Poon comes in buckets!


Ah, like elephants. *nods sagely*
 
2007-11-30 02:52:02 PM
Yeah. Be comfortable with yourself. Accept who you are and relax and you'll do just fine.

and there in would like the problem. or more so, the realization that if i actually found some one that wanted to be around me, they would be so low on the spectrum that they would be the equivalent of a female Mr. Peppers. and that thought depresses me greatly. id willingly choose solitude over that.

i had one chance when i was in high school still, but turned it down. long story short, a girl stops me and says her friend wants to go out with me, and points down the hall. was actually a really good looking girl too. jackpot. her friend says to me, shell screw any one, anything, on the first date. with out fail. WHOO HOO IM GETTING LAI...no, no this is a terrible idea. just walk away... walk away right now. 10 mins of pleasure isnt worth a potential life time of medical problems. with my luck id get every STD known to man, and 3 known to reside solely in sharks.

that was probably both the best, and worst, decision ive ever made.

perhaps some day the chance will come up again, or perhaps it wont. any any case its not worth losing sleep over.
 
2007-11-30 02:53:31 PM
Zarkin Frood: This: Myspace?

Yes. And that other Website That Shall Not Be Named.. or else I too shall go the way of the Chza and the Daffy.


I'm lost. Were they banned, or just decided to not hang out at Fark anymore?

So hard keeping up with all the drama 'round here. :)
 
2007-11-30 02:54:00 PM
RyanAntiHero
Skeptos: smoothvirus

Wow, some of you guys need to find out about the Seduction Community, and in a big way.

Some guys don't care to betray their most important values and put on some ridiculous act simply to score a bit of poon.

Some people, especially yon virgins, need to re-evaluate their "most important values".

Honesty? Empathy? Sincerity? Seems to me those values are worth keeping in any civilized society.
 
2007-11-30 02:55:17 PM
I'm sure they get laid. But at what cost?

The cost would be... discovering your own manhood, learning what women are attracted to, knowing that it's OK to express your own sexuality, and becoming the kind of man that women are attracted to.

Easier said than done, yes. But it can be done.

FWIW: Lying is a dumb idea, because eventually you'll get caught. Lying is the refuge of beta male. There's a difference between flirting and lying.
 
2007-11-30 02:56:03 PM
another-farker: if i actually found some one that wanted to be around me, they would be so low on the spectrum that they would be the equivalent of a female Mr. Peppers.

This is a symptom of the problem, not the problem itself. There are good-looking women about there who would enjoy your company - but you're never going to figure that out if you keep thinking that none of them would.

What you're essentially saying is that "I have to get a girl to be confident" and what I'm telling you is to find a way to like yourself, and that sense of self-worth will communicate itself to others. If you don't like yourself, it's hard for anyone else to like you either.

If you don't like yourself, that's okay - change the things you don't like. Act as though you have the attributes you'd like to have and you'll have them.
 
2007-11-30 02:56:57 PM
Oh, and me? I was 19 when I went "all the way" with my now husband, but then boyfriend.

We did all sorts of handjobs and oral stuff before that, starting around 17 I think? It was the right age for me. Would be all sorts of wrong for many others, I'm sure.

I think this study is bunk. The right time varies from person to person. But it seems like it's the social/sexual hangups causing the late deflowering, now the other way around.
 
2007-11-30 02:58:08 PM
Wendy's Chili: They're missing the obvious here.

Men who lose it later in life have a harder time getting aroused because they've been spoiled by years and years of beating off to the finest pornography the internet has to offer. Unless their girl likes inverted blowjobs and going ATM, they might be a little underwhelmed.


Wow, Nail...Head.... all that.
 
2007-11-30 02:58:53 PM
Lying

Her: So what do you do?
You: Oh, I'm an investment banker and I drove up here in a Porsche.

Flirting

Her: So what do you do?
You: I'm a disposable cigarette lighter repairman. (smirk)
 
2007-11-30 02:59:45 PM
Well, it's always good to see how many people actually RTFA.

/virgin 'til 22
//regret not doing it sooner
 
2007-11-30 03:01:02 PM
Femme_Politik: I'm lost. Were they banned, or just decided to not hang out at Fark anymore?

they were banninated, but they do still lurk in ways. contact info in profile if you want to find out more

lest I get the ban myself since Im prolly on some shiatlist somewhere.

Skeptos: I'm sure they get laid. But at what cost?

Well if it's at my place usually only about a buck fifty, or the cost of a three pack of magnums.
 
2007-11-30 03:01:10 PM
Skeptos: RyanAntiHero
Skeptos: smoothvirus

Wow, some of you guys need to find out about the Seduction Community, and in a big way.

Some guys don't care to betray their most important values and put on some ridiculous act simply to score a bit of poon.

Some people, especially yon virgins, need to re-evaluate their "most important values".

Honesty? Empathy? Sincerity? Seems to me those values are worth keeping in any civilized society.


Let's take this to a ludicrous extreme. Look at it this way:

Let's say you're running a failing business. You have no skills - not on bookkeeping, not management, nothing. Somebody gives you a book about how to run a Chinese slave-labor based factory. The book has all the details about bookkeeping, managing your paid staff, etc... and also how to beat your slaves to keep them in line.

Do you read the book? After all, it will teach you all the stuff you need to know, but it also includes abominable stuff.

Nobody's telling you to start enslaving Chinese children.

They might telling you to lie, to hide yourself, and stuff like that. But they'll also tell you how to relax, how to be confident, and how to meet women who are interested in meeting men like you. And there's nothing dishonest about that stuff.
 
2007-11-30 03:06:03 PM
I'm pretty good in bed but the older I get the less I care to be. Nowadays I prefer to be partially asleep.
 
2007-11-30 03:10:36 PM
danlpoon: '...in a rickroll. Naughty poon!'

Blech... 2 girls 1- i thought i had lost my inner sense years ago- but nooooo, that *thing* had circulated on cellies too.
My God the damage to my psyche.
The horror.

i hadta look up rickroll though. Had no idea what the reference meant. But NOW i unnerstand.

/snickers at 'rickrolling'
//lost my innocence at 18. Coulda woulda at 15, but man oh man i was a shy boy. Kinda wish i had though. All the braggin' i could done in high school!
/// Waves happily at Frood... i lose my virginity everytime i look at yer profile.
 
2007-11-30 03:14:01 PM
28 and a virgin.

It's possible something happened when I was little that would make that an untrue statement (not that that sort of thing counts), but I don't remember it and I have no desire to know. (I could ask the guy involved, but as I said, I don't want to know)

/asexual
//no idea if they're related or if that's just the way I was built
 
2007-11-30 03:17:28 PM
i was a shy boy

I was a blowviating, obnoxious loudmouth. I needed a good dose of "shy". I lost mine plenty early. In Canada. In the woods. I'm lucky a bear didn't eat us. But then I had a dry spell that went until I was 31.
 
2007-11-30 03:18:37 PM
Cowboy Spencer:
This is a symptom of the problem, not the problem itself. There are good-looking women about there who would enjoy your company - but you're never going to figure that out if you keep thinking that none of them would.


its not so much a symptom of the problem, but a symptom of my own self realization that ive had for a very long time. i look at my self and say "damn... thats pathetic. everything i enjoy doing is a solitary act for the most part. the things i enjoy doing with other people doesnt exactly lead me to meet women my age." take for example 2 of my favorite things. paintball/airsoft and driving high end cars.

paintball/airsoft - in my 5 years of playing, the ONLY women to ever appear on the field are wives/girlfriends that get dragged along.

the local corvette get together - the average vette owners age, 45-50 (we all drive like were 18 though) me and one other guy are the youngest ones there. if we were to combine our ages we still wouldn't meet the average groups age. needless to say that doesn't work out well.

fun as hell though to get a group of 10-20 vettes together and then head out and drive them like they were meant to be. thats actually depressing to think about too. it just snowed 4 inches here, so that means ive gotta wait 6 months before i can go out and do that again.
 
2007-11-30 03:18:58 PM
Lost it at 19. That seemed late to me. Hell, it seemed like forever.

/Married now, with a 4-month-old baby.
//Vaguely remembers sex.
 
2007-11-30 03:27:02 PM
Whenever I was single, all my interests tooka back seat to finding some poon. Once procured, i would continue my selfish lifestyle.
 
2007-11-30 03:28:08 PM
i love these threads

favorite threads on fark :D
 
2007-11-30 03:28:16 PM
smoothvirus Quote
Lying

Her: So what do you do?
You: Oh, I'm an investment banker and I drove up here in a Porsche Beemer. And I am an 8.9 on Hot or Not

Flirting

Her: So what do you do?
You: I'm a disposable cigarette lighter repairman. (smirk)


Fixed it for you
 
2007-11-30 03:29:23 PM
liquidlen: Within 6 months of moving out on my own at the tender age of twenty, I had turned down two very attractive women, despite wanting both them and to lose my cherry. It just didn't feel right. I remember thinking "this is gonna be EASY".

Got unexpected distress from your mistress, did you?
 
2007-11-30 03:29:50 PM
Techmom, I think you went to the exact same course as I did in College...
 
2007-11-30 03:31:12 PM
They might telling you to lie, to hide yourself, and stuff like that. But they'll also tell you how to relax, how to be confident, and how to meet women who are interested in meeting men like you. And there's nothing dishonest about that stuff.

this is true

most of the seduction community stuff is shiat but they do have some good tips
 
2007-11-30 03:46:44 PM
GreatRandew: Techmom, I think you went to the exact same course as I did in College...

When did you graduate? Are you thinking we know each other IRL?
 
2007-11-30 03:52:37 PM
techmom I just Graduated in June, does the Name Rejean Barriault or John Black ring a bell?
 
2007-11-30 03:56:21 PM
GreatRandew: techmom I just Graduated in June, does the Name Rejean Barriault or John Black ring a bell?

Ding-dong! I graduated a few years ago, but that's the spot. I wasn't expecting you to name instructors.

Where are you working at? (not a callcenter, not a callcenter...)
 
2007-11-30 03:58:36 PM
Techmom actually yes, a call center, but not directly, I am part of a computer Company that is contracted out as an IT department for call-centers and small businesses.
 
2007-11-30 04:00:24 PM
whats that ever so annoying song... oh yes, "Its a small world After-all"...
 
2007-11-30 04:02:20 PM
GreatRandew: Techmom actually yes, a call center, but not directly, I am part of a computer Company that is contracted out as an IT department for call-centers and small businesses.

Sigh - I worked briefly for Clientlogic. It's a soul-destroying grind. Good luck to you in the future.

/NB represent!
 
2007-11-30 04:04:49 PM
www.markstivers.com
 
2007-11-30 04:05:16 PM
techmom: GreatRandew: Techmom actually yes, a call center, but not directly, I am part of a computer Company that is contracted out as an IT department for call-centers and small businesses.

Sigh - I worked briefly for Clientlogic. It's a soul-destroying grind. Good luck to you in the future.

/NB represent!


wow. FARK reuniting people??? Have the magnetic poles reversed???
 
2007-11-30 04:11:06 PM
GovernmentNanny: wow. FARK reuniting people??? Have the magnetic poles reversed???

Not exactly; we're just alumnae of the same college. Never met before.

/there have been Farkers who met & married due to Fark
//ya rly! But I can't remember their names ATM
///probably only happens with a TF subscription
 
2007-11-30 04:12:32 PM
This is quite interesting for me.

I was 22 myself. My first time was difficult. Either it was the fact that I am a Type 1 Diabetic (not fattie diabetes) and I wasn't taking good care of myself at the time, or that her va-jay smelled absolutely awful, or that I was drunk, or that the condom appeared to kill all sensation....

After my first time, the next girl was difficult as well. The mental block with the condom was a big hurdle, and my libido was pretty low.

Looking back now I'm pretty sure it was more the fact that I was a bad Diabetic rather than the fact that I waited so long. Though I'm sure the whole combination of things contributed.

Now I'm 24 and taking better care of myself. The sex is awesome and I just have more energy.

Moral of the story: It's always worth it to make yourself feel as good as you possibly can, no matter what. Otherwise you're cack may stop listening to you.
 
2007-11-30 04:14:07 PM
YOUR

Damn.
 
2007-11-30 04:17:56 PM
smoothvirus
FWIW: Lying is a dumb idea, because eventually you'll get caught. Lying is the refuge of beta male. There's a difference between flirting and lying.


Dude guys I know who get lots of women they don't get caught for YEARS and when they do the women usually forgive them until they do the same thing repeatedly until they get caught another couple of years down the road

They lie because they pick women they can walk all over
 
2007-11-30 04:26:10 PM
My first actual intercourse experience was pretty unsuccessful. My poor guy tried his best to, uhm ... get in there, but failed, and my squeals of pain didn't help I'm sure.

I ended up having to have a hymenectomy to remove my fricken hymen. So my old Asian gynecologist actually and technically deflowered me. ;)

God, he was a hilarious doctor too. He actually said to me, as I was dozing off from the drugs, "When I finish, the biggest penis you can find will fit in there!"

Har. Anyway, after the very minor surgery, things fit just great.

Overly-thick hymens are t3h suck. I might have actually done the deed earlier than 19 if I didn't have that natual barrier preventing all the real fun. Now that I've given WAAY too much info, that is all.
 
2007-11-30 04:28:16 PM
Femme_Politik: Zarkin Frood: This: Myspace?
Yes. And that other Website That Shall Not Be Named.. or else I too shall go the way of the Chza and the Daffy.
I'm lost. Were they banned, or just decided to not hang out at Fark anymore?
So hard keeping up with all the drama 'round here. :)


Both, actually. They got banned for what some might call subjective and/or irrelevant reasons and if/once their bans are up, they never come back. They are espousing the virtues of another site, which has its pros and cons.
 
2007-11-30 04:42:05 PM
Zarkin Frood: Femme_Politik: Zarkin Frood: This: Myspace?
Yes. And that other Website That Shall Not Be Named.. or else I too shall go the way of the Chza and the Daffy.
I'm lost. Were they banned, or just decided to not hang out at Fark anymore?
So hard keeping up with all the drama 'round here. :)

Both, actually. They got banned for what some might call subjective and/or irrelevant reasons and if/once their bans are up, they never come back. They are espousing the virtues of another site, which has its pros and cons.


Hrm, thanks for the update. I know Chza got a little crazy sometimes, but Daffy seemed pretty harmless to me. Now I'm even more curious! Grrr!

Stupid mods! *shakes fist*


/kidding. I LOVE the mods!
//love, love, LOVE them!
///My love for the mods, let me show you it
 
2007-11-30 04:45:55 PM
Sunidesus: 28 and a virgin.

/asexual
//no idea if they're related or if that's just the way I was built


It's the way you were built. Much of the sex drive is chemical, you cant think your way out of that part.
 
2007-11-30 04:52:15 PM
ArrogantGod: Sunidesus: 28 and a virgin.

/asexual
//no idea if they're related or if that's just the way I was built

It's the way you were built. Much of the sex drive is chemical, you cant think your way out of that part.


Is it wrong that I can't decide whether to be jealous or pitiful of Sunidesus' state?

/loves having sex.
//hates being its slave.
 
2007-11-30 04:53:17 PM
It's the way you were built. Much of the sex drive is chemical, you cant think your way out of that part.

That's been my assumption. I'm almost positive that whatever did happen wasn't big enough to trigger any repressing of memories. But it's always kind of this niggling doubt in the back of my mind.

Any apparently fark is where I admit things to the world as I've never told anyone any of this except my best friend and my mother!
 
2007-11-30 04:57:39 PM
For me there are other hurdles to leap first. Im still at the trying to get a girlfriend stage at 27. I mean yeah you could buy sex but that's kinda like buying a trophy without playing the sport?
 
2007-11-30 05:00:09 PM
I knew that this thread would probably have some great advice from techmom and would deliver in general, but I never expected to come in and see that she had utterly and completely won the thread and scored some points for the grand cause of love. Once again, I nod my head in respect.

Just a couple other items:

1.) Belltower did call dibs, but I still say that was sneaky of him. Smart, but sneaky.
2.) TONS of other sources point out ways to keep things going well. Just this morning Mrs. 3k sent me this link Link (new window) with a list of items that she thinks I should work on (I never claimed to be perfect, but I try). Nobody said love was easy, but it is worth it when you find the one.
3.) I meant to give techmom props the other day for her excellent use of a Heinlein quote (I forget the thread subject but the quote involved teaching a pig to sing in regards to people with bad attitudes), but the servers were being wonky.
4.) I would buy techmom's book. But techmom has to sign a copy for Mrs. 3k as well!

Since I skipped a lot of boring stuff, this is probably tied for my favorite thread of all time.

\For the record, at 24
\\To Mrs. 3k
\\\No problems here!
 
2007-11-30 05:01:28 PM
Westbound Pachyderm Methinks they actually did a movie about our buddy there, The 40 Year Old Virign.


///lost mine at 8
//she was 11
//I was 11 when I figured out what the heck I was doing
//early bloomer
//slashies!
 
2007-11-30 05:02:22 PM
So by not allowing my b.f. past second base until I was 19 I was putting myself at risk?

/glad I'm not any longer
//Catholic school grad
 
2007-11-30 05:04:32 PM
this thread is still going?? holy crap.

/and 21. no complaints from bf, thus far...
 
2007-11-30 05:15:16 PM
Femme_Politik

How you doing?
 
2007-11-30 05:19:19 PM
i46.photobucket.com
 
2007-11-30 05:20:33 PM
/ puts down accordion

eViLpOpTaRt

How are you doing?
 
2007-11-30 05:22:26 PM
here is another applicable one...

www.marcofolio.net
 
2007-11-30 05:23:51 PM
Nightmaretony: Femme_Politik

How you doing?


Much better now that I got rid of that pesky hymen!

Thankyouforasking!
 
2007-11-30 05:33:33 PM
keroppilee: For me there are other hurdles to leap first. Im still at the trying to get a girlfriend stage at 27. I mean yeah you could buy sex but that's kinda like buying a trophy without playing the sport?

Sex is definitely a contact sport, but not a trophy. The analogy is more like working out with a personal trainer, as opposed to working out with a friend and engaging in some friendly competition.

sinner3k You make me all shy... and I really didn't know the teaching pigs to sing was from Heinlein, I've used that saying for years! I've also been a Heinlein fan for years, so you never know...
 
2007-11-30 05:34:51 PM
i'm 22, i have gotten pretty close to losing it, but it didnt happen, i'm not exactly wating till i'm married, i'll definatly do it if there is a right time and place before hand. my problem is i'm oblivious to women coming on to me, i need to get better at picking up the signals. i have pretty good self esteem and i'm not ugly, i am shy though and it makes things tough, i have only had 2 girlfriends as well, all after highschool. anyway. thats all i have to say about that.
 
2007-11-30 05:52:32 PM
darth_nick23 as someone earlier in this thread mentioned (sorry to the quoter; i am not scrolling back up) practice, practice, practice. do you have any friends that are girls? you could ask them for advice. or techmom, since she is full of win today.
 
2007-11-30 05:55:16 PM
napgirl

darth_nick23 ....do you have any friends that are girls? you could ask them for advice sex

Fixed that for you
 
2007-11-30 06:02:05 PM
luv2dive: napgirl

darth_nick23 ....do you have any friends that are girls? you could ask them for advice sex

Fixed that for you


i have given up on keeping many girls for friends, the ones i do have i have already missed the boat on compleatly, and most of them are biatches and married already, i'm not even very picky at this point either, i dont see why i cant get any.
 
2007-11-30 06:05:25 PM
This is my kind of thread....
First off, my brother still hasn't lost it, at 24, and I'm a little worried, as he's a decent looking guy and pretty sociable and politically motivated (big 'uh-oh'). That and he doesn't like to be touched. We have an autistic uncle and I wonder if he doesn't have minor Asberger's or something.
Ok now that the seriousness is out of the way.
I've helped the cause of healthy sex, I've deflowered my share of sweet, nubile boys (well, two). Its kind of nice to know that they will never, ever forget you. Unlike pretty much every other guy you fark in college....
And on a, oo!, I've really been waiting for the opportunity to use this, category, I found a picture from the day of "my first time" (also the day of my SAT test, both occasions went well, I guess I was growing up) so here goes:
a403.ac-images.myspacecdn.com
/I look spent
//It's a skort...
///16
 
2007-11-30 06:07:34 PM
techmom: I've also been a Heinlein fan for years, so you never know...

Another reason why techmom is at the top of my "Cool Farkers" list. IIRC, it's from "Time Enough For Love". I still get a tear in my eye every time I read the "The tale of the adopted daughter" and cite it as why Mrs. 3k is not allowed to shuffle off the mortal coil before me.

And don't be shy. You earned your awesome flag today, so fly it high!

\techmom FTW
\\It had to be said
 
2007-11-30 06:08:29 PM
Miss Misery

Hellooooooooo!


Would love to hear more
 
2007-11-30 06:09:48 PM
Miss Misery

I feel bad for darth_nick23 could you help? I will make it worth your while. I promise. ;)
 
2007-11-30 06:13:20 PM
luv2dive lol
darth_nick23 umm..you should be a little picky-eau de desperation isn't a turn on. and how do you know you missed the boat?
/just curious
//my downfall
 
2007-11-30 06:15:00 PM
Miss Misery---
on behalf of shy-but-otherwise-not-bad-geeky types: I love you!
//my first was kinda the same way...
 
2007-11-30 06:15:13 PM
Oh god, 20 and a half already here... I'm screwed... because I can't get screwed.

And I have a dysfunction already. It's called "Even goddamn Robin Williams is starting to look good.".

/and admitting that will probably scare off any guys that would have wanted me before.
//except the loud, hairy ones.
 
2007-11-30 06:15:39 PM
What I want to know is: if you have a really long "dry spell" is your V-card reissued, an are you just declared Common Law Gay?
 
2007-11-30 06:19:39 PM
I find it interesting that I know quite a few male virgins(4 friends about my age and myself) but I don't know any female virgins. Are all these girls all getting it from the same select few guys?
 
2007-11-30 06:19:52 PM
napgirl: luv2dive lol
darth_nick23 umm..you should be a little picky-eau de desperation isn't a turn on. and how do you know you missed the boat?
/just curious
//my downfall


most of them straight up told me that i wasnt what they were looking for, and that it would never be more than platonic its pretty much just like that, and it seems thats always how it ends up for me, i dont know whats the deal.
 
2007-11-30 06:27:18 PM
techmom: westbound pachyderm: IdBeCrazyIf:

This thread is still missing two things

Chza and Daffy

RIP, guys. RIP.

I'm still in mourning. *snif*


And Fluff girl
 
2007-11-30 06:31:32 PM
Lurkerbunny: Oh god, 20 and a half already here... I'm screwed... because I can't get screwed.

And I have a dysfunction already. It's called "Even goddamn Robin Williams is starting to look good.".

/and admitting that will probably scare off any guys that would have wanted me before.
//except the loud, hairy ones.

Cute blonde with quirky hair and sexy librarian glasses? Hell I'd do you. I'm sure a fair share of nerdphiles on fark would be down too.
 
2007-11-30 06:35:32 PM
Miss Misery: Lurkerbunny: Oh god, 20 and a half already here... I'm screwed... because I can't get screwed.

And I have a dysfunction already. It's called "Even goddamn Robin Williams is starting to look good.".

/and admitting that will probably scare off any guys that would have wanted me before.
//except the loud, hairy ones.
Cute blonde with quirky hair and sexy librarian glasses? Hell I'd do you. I'm sure a fair share of nerdphiles on fark would be down too.


I agree.
 
2007-11-30 06:46:58 PM
Lurkerbunny: Oh god, 20 and a half already here... I'm screwed... because I can't get screwed.

And I have a dysfunction already. It's called "Even goddamn Robin Williams is starting to look good.".

/and admitting that will probably scare off any guys that would have wanted me before.
//except the loud, hairy ones.


In the un-snarkiest tone I can muster, you've got to lose the pokemon poster. One look at that, and I think of my little brother; at that point any Onix has devolved into a weedle.

Cover it up with something that doesn't set a contrary mood. Maybe Rainbow Brite?
/(psy)ducks
 
2007-11-30 06:48:44 PM
36 and counting. Do I win?
 
2007-11-30 06:50:54 PM
goalie0002: 36 and counting. Do I win?

Ask me in 12 years.
 
2007-11-30 07:02:52 PM
Miss Misery:

Aghhh... that picture. Then I clicked to see your profile (of course). Damn it, I'm at work. You're killin' me over here!!!
 
2007-11-30 07:11:07 PM
illustri: @23 you are either out of college or finishing, if you go to grad school a virgin your peers will laugh at you, if you start working your peers will laugh at you, and if you never went to college your peers will laugh at you for not having further education as well as being a virgin

so please, have a meaningful relationship that involves sex regardless of how it turns out, before it just gets really awkward, you might think its awkward now trying to find someone, well, it only gets worse


You talk about your sex life to your fellow grads? Jesus, man, most grad students are already married, talking to married people about your sex life is a giant 'NO'.
 
2007-11-30 07:12:41 PM
Jesus. This doesn't apply to females right? I hope not.

/25 & still a virgin & female
//How in the hell do you tell a another person you're a virgin at 25?
 
2007-11-30 07:14:17 PM
Miss Misery gave me syphilis and genital warts ;__;
 
2007-11-30 07:16:46 PM
MataHari: Jesus. This doesn't apply to females right? I hope not.

/25 & still a virgin & female
//How in the hell do you tell a another person you're a virgin at 25?


Tell them you're a farker, they'll understand.
 
2007-11-30 07:31:21 PM
zippythechimp: Miss Misery: Lurkerbunny: Oh god, 20 and a half already here... I'm screwed... because I can't get screwed.

And I have a dysfunction already. It's called "Even goddamn Robin Williams is starting to look good.".

/and admitting that will probably scare off any guys that would have wanted me before.
//except the loud, hairy ones.
Cute blonde with quirky hair and sexy librarian glasses? Hell I'd do you. I'm sure a fair share of nerdphiles on fark would be down too.

I agree.


Certainly double-seconded. It's a shame we're on different coasts, I'm a real sucker for that sort of stuff.
/Ever been kissed blind? Where you forget how to open your eyes for a few hours after?
 
2007-11-30 07:49:45 PM
romance and communication....
Try (being together) and doing something romantic...
-kiam

THIS


My sweetie leaves me a love note every morning before leaving for work.
And I leave a love note in return. He may bring me my favorite chocolate
when he's in the city, and sometimes I get him his fav treat from the deli.
Etc. Do fun things for each other, for no reason. It keeps love alive.

=====
"...in her eyes you're little more than a date that went well twenty years ago...
No matter how well you treat her and how much you "take out the trash..."

-LowPlainsDrifter
=====

That whole note made me very sad.

If you're currently batting zero?... please don't just blame your spouse.

Dead love takes two, both being indifferent to the other's current needs & desires.

Do couples therapy, and brush up on those romance/foreplay skills,
and try to remember what brought you together in the first place.
Please give it a shot; you've got nothing to lose at this point.

/True longterm love exists - we've been together for over two decades.
//Applause to Skeptos for: "Honesty- Empathy- Sincerity-
... Seems to me those values are worth keeping in any civilized society."
 
2007-11-30 08:02:04 PM
Is this one of the "I hate it when Farkettes talk about their boobies but don't show them" threads?
 
2007-11-30 09:04:44 PM
MataHari: //How in the hell do you tell a another person you're a virgin at 25?

You don't! Lie Lie Lie !!

/need a fling, Email me! (please don't make get on my knees and beg.)
 
2007-11-30 09:43:29 PM
I vote for hormones having a lot to do with picking the right partner... with a little sense thrown on top, but not too much ;)

virgin until 23, married another virgin, had terrible sex and increasing personality clashes, divorced after four years

met my current husband and he turned on all of my hormones just by the smell of him. I felt like a teenager again, and he sure acted like one ;) although he is six years older. We nearly broke each other's backs for the next month straight.

/beautiful daughter 3 weeks old
//can't wait to break DH's back again after the 6 week green light
 
2007-11-30 10:01:28 PM
22 nearing 23...

I've had three opportunities that I decided to decline. I usually dont notice when girls are attracted to me, but one was quite obvious. Of course she was twice my weight and really annoying. The other I was friends with through most of my Freshman year of college and I always knew she was kind of odd... had a chance one day, but decided not to. Good thing because I found from another guy who had slept with her that she was hole-poker in condoms and within a year she had a kid with another unfortunate fellow. Dodged a bullet there. The only one I really regret was with a girl I met from a club I was in. We dated a few times, finally we had a night where we would have gone all the way but we didn't have any condoms and I was not about to risk anything, so we just went down on each other. Good thing I went down on her first because after I was done she chocked and spit it out in disgust. Then the next time we went on a date I realized how annoying and incredibly stupid she was, so I broke it off. Still, I probably should have at least gone all the way with her just to get it over with. The only girl I really fell for was a girl I've known online for about 5 years now and have met with several times. We've made out but she never wanted to go more than that. Said it didn't feel right. Now she's a lesbian. At least we're still good friends. :/

Now here I am, out of college, never had full intercourse, without any real female friends. I play poker, video games and D&D as my interests and I can't seem to even meet new girls doing any of those things. I tried the bar scene and I just cant' stand to be around the type of girls that frequent them.

Maybe it's because I was super religious up until college. Maybe it's because I was bullied so much in middle school that my confidence level was put down so low that I was never able to recover until college, but by then was too inexperienced to do it right. Maybe it's that I just plain have no tact. I know it's not the end of the world but with sex being everywhere and it seems like everyone is getting it but you, it gets you down. They say be confident and get out there, but how the hell do you do that?
 
2007-11-30 10:40:17 PM
techmom: Not to put too fine a point on it (and everyone likes a li'l ego-boo), when you made the offer I checked your profile and thought, "Hell, yeah!"

And that's before I even mentioned my BMW convertible and how much weight I could lift... :-)
 
2007-11-30 10:49:36 PM
Wow, I went to work 10 hours ago and this thread is still going.
 
2007-11-30 10:51:42 PM
Get over it, and get on with it!

If you're sleeping with someone that you don't find a turn on before you get into bed.... you're STTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPID!
 
2007-11-30 10:54:12 PM
Lost mine at 18. I grew up in boys homes and work farms.
So....had I lost it younger,
that would have given me a bad case of ghey!
 
2007-11-30 10:59:23 PM
I just finished reading Slut! last night, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

It's actually very interesting read.

Anyway.

Things started well with my first at (barely) 18... and we stayed together for almost nine years. By the end of it, we encountering some difficulties and he had me convinced it was all my fault.

(I was his second. His first/girlfriend was two years prior, and was some girl he met on the internet who lived in another country.)

I spontaneously had a fark buddy a few months after my relationship ended, something I would never thought I would have done. It was the best thing I have ever done for myself.

Things I learned/experienced:
1) other people find me attractive
2) being turned on by someone who is being nice to me is a reasonable thing (which taught me feeling no desire for someone who is an asshole to me is a reasonable thing too)
3) there was no stigma of "we can't/don't do that" because no relationship or expectations were established
4) things that "were my fault" were sooooooo not my fault. I rock.
5) experienced a different body type (slightly overweight, but more masculine). That was quite a thrill (even though I tend to be attracted to lean guys).

I guess I'm saying a dysfunctional sex life (a relationship that goes sour) has the potential to be at least as "damaging" as "lack or sex" or "late sex". I'd say more, actually. But you have the ability to change the way you interact with people and change the things in your life you don't like.
 
2007-11-30 11:00:38 PM
guess I am continuing my epic streak of fail then.

25 and no hope of losing it anytime soon.

I haven't had any friends at all for almost five years
/mental illness and most likely a social developmental disorder for the lose.
//wish I was dead every day-- the loneliness is unbearable.

Why am I telling you this?
 
2007-11-30 11:06:12 PM
Miss Misery:
zippythechimp:
pen_sq:


Thanks, guys. :)

As for the Pokemon poster... well, my nostalgic side is sorta attached to it... nostalgic for when there were only 151 and it was all so simple... but I guess it does make me look a bit of a doof; this otherwise adult woman still holding on to her childhood memories. Rainbow Brite? If I could only find one... well, I would look on ebay but I don't have a credit card. Blah. Anyway, thanks for the compliments. :)
 
2007-11-30 11:08:08 PM
Twigz221: ...They say be confident and get out there, but how the hell do you do that?

Same as losing weight. If you want it enough, you'll be able to do it, as long as you don't expect results right away.

The big thing? If you're not meeting new people (male or female), start doing so. Join a club or team which your current group of friends are NOT in. Then you force yourself to make new acquaintances, both male and female.
 
2007-11-30 11:23:43 PM
...

I'm looking over this thread again, and I see a recurring theme:

OMG I go out and do all this guy stuff, but I just can't seem to find women. Le sigh.
 
2007-12-01 12:34:28 AM
I lost my virginity to Benazir Bhutto's bhutto.

/she was hairy and smelled like curry
 
2007-12-01 01:19:51 AM
(Lots) was predictable. Here come all the pizza faced, socially inept virgins trying to act as if they've gone through as many women as they wish they had. Angry, pizza faced, socially inept virgin rebuttal in 3, 2, 1...

Disclaimer: Being a virgin for religious reasons doesn't count. Turning down front due to morals is a lot different from not being able to get any at all.
 
2007-12-01 02:11:51 AM
Lurkerbunny:

Thanks, guys. :)

As for the Pokemon poster... well, my nostalgic side is sorta attached to it... nostalgic for when there were only 151 and it was all so simple... but I guess it does make me look a bit of a doof; this otherwise adult woman still holding on to her childhood memories. Rainbow Brite? If I could only find one... well, I would look on ebay but I don't have a credit card. Blah. Anyway, thanks for the compliments. :)


I only mention Rainbow Brite because I think it's kinda a law on Fark ;) . If you haven't stumbled upon THE pic yet, you must be using lynx.

Don't give up on low-hair-content guys, we're out there. Some of us just don't know if you want us to know that you want us to want you. Got it?

/Richard Reed hug!
//again, sorry for the grand gulf of exceptionally square states in between.
 
2007-12-01 02:50:12 AM
Captain Hollywood: While past research has linked early sexual activity to health problems, a new study suggests that waiting too long to start having sex carries risks of its own.

I see what you did there.

/bunch of virgins writing this article
//still virgin too


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! !
Happy to take care of that for you....
/Late
//not too late though ;)
 
2007-12-01 08:41:19 AM
Sharkster: 28 when I lost mine (32 now) and currently on a 4-year dry-spell. Doesn't bother me at all.

/lives in Montana where I can be by myself.


13 years myself.

/Asexual, single, very non-obese, social, intelligent, politically aware and nontheistic
//among other adjectives
///wonders why society should give a fierce fellatin' fark about what people decide to do or not do with their genitalia.
 
2007-12-01 09:40:25 AM
It is nice to know there are other "too old" virgins out there.

/26
//i'm doomed
 
2007-12-01 11:18:22 AM
self_deprived_of_sleep ///wonders why society should give a fierce fellatin' fark about what people decide to do or not do with their genitalia.

If you're happy, then good on ya. My eensy segment of society says, "To thine own self be true."

Having said that - better you than me. I get cranky after several days without, so I cannot imagine *choke* 13 years...

What's really sad is when 1 partner misrepresents their level of sexuality until after the relationship is established. I've seen this happen with both genders, and it seems both dishonest and cruel.

/knew a woman whose husband preferred masturbation because it was 'less work'
//that's just as bad as the wives with never-ending headaches
///wotta thread!
 
2007-12-01 02:52:53 PM
techmom: What's really sad is when 1 partner misrepresents their level of sexuality until after the relationship is established. I've seen this happen with both genders, and it seems both dishonest and cruel.

Some sympathy is in order. Put yourself in the shoes (or in this case, pants) of the person who's thisclose to the promised land after a huge dry spell. Talk about a king-hell case of performance anxiety. At that moment, it is damn difficult to tell somebody "so, um, it's, um, been, um, eight years since I, um..."

A little disarming assist from that somebody on the receiving end is a huge help. Something along the lines of "Don't sweat it, you're allowed do-overs."
 
2007-12-01 04:18:47 PM
14, head cheerleader, soccer field

/good times
 
2007-12-01 05:42:26 PM
Got lucky at 22, but she was more than a little nutty, and quickly dumped me. Briefly had a GF when I was 23. She was very pretty, but at 22, she already had two children, and was getting a divorce. Having been married at 18 or something, the last thing she wanted was to be tied down, so that was over pretty quickly. That was in 1989, and there hasn't been anyone since.
img219.imageshack.us
 
2007-12-01 11:08:42 PM
I can haz last post?

/I gotta go into old threads more often. This was epic.
 
2007-12-01 11:55:13 PM
I love sex, I found that out right away. Out of all the partners I've had, only two were virgins and it was laame, they didn't know what they were doing, and I don't have the patience to teach (unless one shows potential). Now I currently have 3 lovely, laid back, experienced partners and I've never been happier in my whole life. I suppose I have a more relaxed attitude towards sex than most people do...

Although, I can definitely say that the earlier you lose it, the more likely you are to engage in risky behavior, I'm living proof of that. I'm just glad I didn't catch the AIDS or end up with a baby.

/fark on!
//be safe, sane, and consensual about it though!
///13
 
2007-12-02 11:04:57 AM
Squilax: how YOU doin'?

/portland ain't so far ;)
 
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