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2007-11-24 03:41:12 AM
Ohio State will somehow make the national title game over West Virginia if MU or KU wins the Big 12.

Do you really think the overlords of the NCAA will allow for a Kansas/West Virginia game for the national title?
 
2007-11-24 04:31:21 AM
Damn Longhorns.

Great win, TAMU.

There, I said it.

Please can some people win today and keep tOSU out.

Sorry, WoodyHayes.
 
2007-11-24 04:48:04 AM
I think it might mean that everyone involved are losers.
 
2007-11-24 05:04:23 AM
bigpeeler.smugmug.com
 
2007-11-24 07:06:31 AM
RobbieFal: Ohio State will somehow make the national title game over West Virginia if MU or KU wins the Big 12.

Do you really think the overlords of the NCAA will allow for a Kansas/West Virginia game for the national title?


The NCAA has no direct control over the BCS. That's a creature of the "big six" conferences. And if Ohio State plays for the BCS title, Hawaii should be in a BCS game, because they had about as difficult schedule as Ohio State.
 
2007-11-24 07:32:37 AM
Biggest game of the season tonight, and by far the most important game Mizzou and KU have ever played, let alone against each other.
 
2007-11-24 08:37:01 AM
Any particular game to be played today that you would be referring to submitter?
 
2007-11-24 08:39:05 AM
Never mind, I read headline as: "When an SEC team loses to an unranked team".

Carry on.
 
2007-11-24 08:59:35 AM
Nabb1: And if Ohio State plays for the BCS title, Hawaii should be in a BCS game, because they had about as difficult schedule as Ohio State.

Sadly, you're right. Although, to be fair, Hawaii tried to schedule tougher foes, but they had schools back out on them.
 
2007-11-24 09:12:52 AM
Nabb1: The NCAA has no direct control over the BCS. That's a creature of the "big six" conferences.

Not only that, but think about it: A KU/WVU title game would be a shocking thing for the big schools to witness. They did NOT set up the BCS for something like this to happen; it was designed to consolidate the grip the big schools have over Div.-I football. Their reaction in the off season will probably be to screw with the formula in order to make sure it never happens again.

To hell with the "quit whining about the BCS" bastards here on Fark. The whole thing is a scam, pure and simple.
 
2007-11-24 09:26:27 AM
i52.photobucket.com
 
2007-11-24 09:28:54 AM
I leave at noon for Clemson@South Carolina! Is it too early for the jager shots?
 
2007-11-24 09:30:41 AM
YonderScott: I leave at noon for Clemson@South Carolina! Is it too early for the jager shots?

First rule of pregaming: It's never too early to start drinking
 
2007-11-24 09:31:57 AM
where the bloody hell is a premiership greenlight! Stevie G has just destroyed Newcastle and i want to do some some gloating!!
 
2007-11-24 09:34:03 AM
tarquinrainbowtrout: where the bloody hell is a premiership greenlight! Stevie G has just destroyed Newcastle and i want to do some some gloating!!



It's coming
 
2007-11-24 09:36:41 AM
It's kind of cool. tOSU, Hawaii, maybe three SEC schools and a few others could all make solid arguments.
 
2007-11-24 09:41:47 AM
The Ohio River National Championship Game.
 
2007-11-24 09:42:54 AM
Ecobuckeye: The Ohio River National Championship Game.

I'd rather not play them. aside from the fact that we'd have trouble with Pat White, the fire would spread from columbus all the way to Morgantown, with a beer stop in Athens.
 
2007-11-24 09:48:51 AM
hokiebuckeye: I'd rather not play them. aside from the fact that we'd have trouble with Pat White, the fire would spread from columbus all the way to Morgantown, with a beer stop in Athens.

hahahaa....it'd be a fire unlike any other that's for sure.

assets.slate.wvu.edu

/LETS GO!
//MOUNTAINEERS!!!!
 
2007-11-24 09:52:30 AM
Dr Fever: hahahaa....it'd be a fire unlike any other that's for sure.

I remember my sophomore year when you guys beat VT (I was a student there at the time), they showed the pictures of the fires in Morgantown. I was impressed.

Then OSU won the national title, and that put y'all to shame.
 
2007-11-24 09:53:23 AM
At risk of falling in to the trap the subby put down- the SEC is hands the best in the NCAA right now. 11 of the 12 schools are bowl eligible(the bowl system itself is a joke I know but that is for a different board. UF's dismantling of OSU in the title game last year should have proven something, all the talking heads were saying that OSU was going to walk over UF and it should have been a Michigan/OSU rematch. Outside of Ole Miss I would take a bottom half SEC team over a bottom half Big Ten team near any day.
 
2007-11-24 09:57:03 AM
calang: the SEC is hands the best in the NCAA right now.

I'm not sure I agree with this statement.

calang: Outside of Ole Miss I would take a bottom half SEC team over a bottom half Big Ten team near any day.

This is assuredly true. Minnesota sucks.
 
2007-11-24 09:59:15 AM
YonderScott: I leave at noon for Clemson@South Carolina! Is it too early for the jager shots?

No, it's always noon somewhere. Getting ready to go to OU/OK State.
 
2007-11-24 09:59:45 AM
hokiebuckeye:
Then OSU won the national title, and that put y'all to shame.
The destruction in Morgantown that is likely to follow a Mountaineer national championship will be the lead story on EVERY news broadcast on January 8th.
 
2007-11-24 10:02:56 AM
Dr Fever: The destruction in Morgantown that is likely to follow a Mountaineer national championship will be the lead story on EVERY news broadcast on January 8th.

This I agree with. That fire would catch somehow and get all the way down to Beckley. I wouldn't be one bit surprised.
 
2007-11-24 10:03:41 AM
Husker fan for the Jayhawks! Go get 'em KU!
 
2007-11-24 10:07:05 AM
The SEC may or may not be the best conference, but the games are much more exciting. OSU/Michigan, was almost as fun as watching paint dry, and those are the premier teams in Big Ten? Pac 10 is fun to watch, Big 12 has plenty of good games, the ACC is BORING. Big East, I could care less about. Arkansas/LSU, Kent/LSU, Bama/LSU, Bama/Arkansas....those were fun games to watch.
 
2007-11-24 10:08:32 AM
PseudoNic:

Please can some people win today and keep tOSU out.

cigare1.fatcow.com

/ FEAR TEH POWER
// in Ohio today
/// loves me some snow :)
 
2007-11-24 10:09:46 AM
YonderScott: OSU/Michigan, was almost as fun as watching paint dry

And played on something nearly equivalent to an ice rink (but I don't disagree with you)

SEC games do have good finishes, I'll grant you that. I'm just tired of everyone and their brother talking about how great y'all are supposed to be. I am fairly surprised that you don't have any teams on probation, though. Props to you for that.
 
2007-11-24 10:11:39 AM
I think it's kinda cool that these two teams are in such a big game.

/not a fan of either
 
2007-11-24 10:16:41 AM
I'm an NC State fan, which by default makes me an ACC fan. And our games are almost unwatchable. I was just thinking to myself yesterday that I found it hard to believe that no SEC teams were on probation this year.
 
2007-11-24 10:18:59 AM
Subby, I don't blame southern people all that much. I don't think they tend to have all their marbles in tact. Remember that time they seceded from the union? Yeah, that went over real well.
 
2007-11-24 10:21:49 AM
hokiebuckeye:
This I agree with. That fire would catch somehow and get all the way down to Beckley. I wouldn't be one bit surprised.

AT LEAST down to Beckley.

You don't think those crazy bastards in the Southern Coal Fields (Free State of McDowell, Wyoming County, etc) aren't gonna go completely damn sideways if it happens??
 
2007-11-24 10:24:09 AM
All I want to say is this:

www.inbe.org


/By the way, Fark you subby.
//Yes, I know it is a down year for the SEC.
 
2007-11-24 10:25:39 AM
tarquinrainbowtrout: where the bloody hell is a premiership greenlight! Stevie G has just destroyed Newcastle and i want to do some some gloating!!

You and the other 10 soccer fans will get your chance later, for now keep fellating the boy you picked up last night, men are talking.
 
2007-11-24 10:28:25 AM
I love you, Subby!

Anyway, I'll repost this from my late, late post in yesterday's thread...

Alrighty, as a USC/Pac10 fan, this is what I want for Christmas...

1. USC beats UCLA

2. Oregon beats UCLA and Oregon State, locking SC out of the Rose Bowl.

3. LSU beats Georgia in the SEC championship game.

4. Any combo of two one-loss and/or undefeated posers stay that way and go to the NCG

5. Fiesta/Sugar/Orange/Any Bowl: USC vs LSU...and WE SETTLE THIS SHIAT, SEC BIATCHES!!!

6. Profit--because the ratings of this game would dwarf whatever lamefest NCG they come up with
 
2007-11-24 10:28:33 AM
www.tigerboard.com


/Got nothin' until the Big 12 game
 
2007-11-24 10:29:35 AM
If there's any UConn fans out there, I want to apologize (in advance) for the ass-whoopin WVU is gonna put on you.

Sorry you have to be the sacrificial lamb, but Arkansas got our dicks hard.
 
2007-11-24 10:31:23 AM
Tyrone Biggums: /By the way, Fark you subby.
//Yes, I know it is a down year for the SEC.


All I got to say is 45-20

Yeah this is a weak troll attempt, I give other conferences shiat but giving LSU shiat over this is idiotic since most unranked teams dont have a leading heisman contender on their team. Its not like they lost to a div II-A(yeah I still call it that, fark the ncaa) or anything like that.......

That being said, its a down year all around for college football, OSU should not be a one loss team, LSU was good to start with but now look average, USC has looked average all year. Most teams were young I think this year, UT, UGA, USC, michigan mainly, as they year went on they got better so it will only get more interesting.

I am the biggest kentucky fan today, UT needs to choke or kentucky needs to show up and let UGA get in the SEC championship game.
 
2007-11-24 10:32:51 AM
calang: Outside of Ole Miss I would take a bottom half SEC team over a bottom half Big Ten team near any day.

PSU and Wisky beat their middle of the conference teams last year. So I'm not so sure the SEC is that much better, they are definately better this year than last.

I think the problem people have with college football is that they think because the SEC is admittedly better, that they are somehow WAY better than everyone else. That's not true, it's not that extreme.
 
2007-11-24 10:35:09 AM
SideburnSlim:
3. LSU beats Georgia in the SEC championship game.

4. Any combo of two one-loss and/or undefeated posers stay that way and go to the NCG

5. Fiesta/Sugar/Orange/Any Bowl: USC vs LSU...and WE SETTLE THIS SHIAT, SEC BIATCHES!!!

6. Profit--because the ratings of this game would dwarf whatever lamefest NCG they come up with


This shows how much pac 10 fans pay attention, tennessee is going the the SEC championship game not georgia, tennessee has to lose today for georgia to get in.

Also UGA is looking farking great now that the team has matured and I feel sorry for anyone that has to play them in a bowl game. Next year they will be ranked top 10 at least.

Oh and if UT loses and UGA ends up beating LSU in the championship game we would love to see USC in the sugar bowl since this UGA team would kill this USC team.
 
2007-11-24 10:38:21 AM
PopeSchmope:To hell with the "quit whining about the BCS" bastards here on Fark. The whole thing is a scam, pure and simple.


Agreed. Football teams win their games on the field, not on a piece of paper. A playoff system is integrity, the BCS caters to corruption.

/tired of uppity asswipes supporting corruption.
 
2007-11-24 10:40:09 AM
steamingpile:
Also UGA is looking farking great now that the team has matured and I feel sorry for anyone that has to play them in a bowl game. Next year they will be ranked top 10 at least.

Oh and if UT loses and UGA ends up beating LSU in the championship game we would love to see USC in the sugar bowl since this UGA team would kill this USC team.


No, what we want is hapless Hawaii to wonder into a BCS game and are stupified when they play a half-decent team. UGA is actually a really good team, and Hawaii would get embarassed big time. Let's see if all the dancing and tribal mumbo jumbo works when you aren't playing highschool teams.
 
2007-11-24 10:42:23 AM
Millzners: PSU and Wisky beat their middle of the conference teams last year. So I'm not so sure the SEC is that much better, they are definately better this year than last.

I think the problem people have with college football is that they think because the SEC is admittedly better, that they are somehow WAY better than everyone else. That's not true, it's not that extreme.


I dont think that but I do think that they get shiat for playing certain teams that the pac 10 get credit for beating. San diego state was on UGA's schedule for 2 or 3 years and we got shiat for beating the shiat out of them, this is the same team that nobody mentioned that alot of the pac 10 teams played and didnt draw the same sort of shiat.

Just like Troy this year, they are a decent team but UGA got shiat for not slaughtering them when Troy has killed everyone else on their schedule. Div II-AA teams are no longer the cream puffs they once were and you just may lose to them, right michigan?
 
2007-11-24 10:44:37 AM
Millzners: No, what we want is hapless Hawaii to wonder into a BCS game and are stupified when they play a half-decent team. UGA is actually a really good team, and Hawaii would get embarassed big time. Let's see if all the dancing and tribal mumbo jumbo works when you aren't playing highschool teams.

The first time they get hit a real linebacker they would be crying and their QB, colt something? Would spend most of his day on his back, last year boise state got lucky to play a shiatty team in their bowl so dont brag about that wac fans.
 
2007-11-24 10:47:01 AM
Go KANSAS! PICK OFF Mizzou!!!

kermittheblog.files.wordpress.com
 
2007-11-24 10:47:32 AM
steamingpile:
All I got to say is 45-20


Ugh. That was a horrible showing. However, that was the only real ass-whooping we got this year. All of our other losses were by less than a touchdown. Were it not for stupid mistakes, we could be looking at 10-1 right now.

Yeah this is a weak troll attempt, I give other conferences shiat but giving LSU shiat over this is idiotic since most unranked teams dont have a leading heisman contender on their team. Its not like they lost to a div II-A(yeah I still call it that, fark the ncaa) or anything like that.......

Well, I don't think LSU is that great of a team. Like you said, they started out great but it went downhill from there. They got really lucky in some games (*cough* Auburn *cough*). And with the exception of some early games they never really dominated anybody.

I am the biggest kentucky fan today, UT needs to choke or kentucky needs to show up and let UGA get in the SEC championship game.

The way Tennessee has been playing you'll probably get your wish.
 
2007-11-24 10:48:48 AM
Hey Subby, go choke yourself with Troy Smith's (Or insert other failed QB from your conference of choice) hand.

SEC West from Top to Bottom:


LSU: 10-2 (6-2)
Auburn: 7-4 (4-3)
Alabama: 6-5 (4-3)
Arkansas: 8-4 (4-4)
Miss. St: 7-5 (4-4)
Ole Miss: 3-9 (0-8)

If Ole Miss knocked off LSU, You would have a point. A 7-4 team knocking off the #1 in the nation? Not out of the ordinary.

/People hate winners.
//Which is why they hate the SEC.
 
2007-11-24 10:49:54 AM
Why does Brady Quinn have all these commercials? Is it because he's never going to see the field of play in the NFL?
 
2007-11-24 10:49:55 AM
Ok I've figured out the scenario needed to put Virginia Tech in the title game:

West Virginia loses to Connecticut or Pittsburgh
Georgia loses to Georgia Tech
Tennessee loses to Kentucky
In the SEC championship game, LSU loses to Georgia
The winner of Kansas/Missouri loses to Oklahoma

Looks ridiculous, but with the way this season has gone, it actually has a very slim 1% chance of happening!
 
2007-11-24 10:52:16 AM
YouWinAgainGravity: Ok I've figured out the scenario needed to put Virginia Tech in the title game:

West Virginia loses to Connecticut or Pittsburgh
Georgia loses to Georgia Tech
Tennessee loses to Kentucky
In the SEC championship game, LSU loses to Georgia
The winner of Kansas/Missouri loses to Oklahoma

Looks ridiculous, but with the way this season has gone, it actually has a very slim 1% chance of happening!


I approve this message. It would've been a lot easier if we had just managed to hold on against BC.
 
2007-11-24 10:52:39 AM
YouWinAgainGravity:
Looks ridiculous, but with the way this season has gone, it actually has a very slim 1% chance of happening!


Coincidentally, Less than 1% is the chance USF had of reaching the #2 ranking this year.

/Anything that involves Georgia and Tennessee losing, I'm for.
 
2007-11-24 10:53:54 AM
LET'S GO BYU!

DESTROY UTAH!

WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOO!

/my family saw the utah team in their hotel today. my dad talked trash. said, "how were those beds? comfy right? a lot better than that turf, which you'll be hitting all day!
 
2007-11-24 10:55:18 AM
Really wanna see OSU VS USC Rose Bowl. That would be KILLER. And would love to see USC make total fools of OSU.

img258.imageshack.us
 
2007-11-24 10:56:11 AM
If you cannot answer "YES" to all of the following questions, then you have no right to talk smack about the SEC:

Does every team in your conference have to play at least 8 other teams in your conference every year?

Is there another game, a championship, in your conference?

Are 11 teams in your conference bowl eligible?

Have at least 9 of your conference's teams been ranked at some point this season?
 
2007-11-24 10:57:06 AM
steamingpile: Oh and if UT loses and UGA ends up beating LSU in the championship game we would love to see USC in the sugar bowl since this UGA team would kill this USC team.

YOU haven't been paying attention. From a season high NINE players out, USC is again healthy.

No one will beat SC.
 
2007-11-24 10:59:14 AM
hokiebuckeye: Why does Brady Quinn have all these commercials? Is it because he's never going to see the field of play in the NFL?

yup. also he sucked a lot of dick.
 
2007-11-24 11:00:52 AM
steamingpile: This shows how much pac 10 fans pay attention, tennessee is going the the SEC championship game not georgia, tennessee has to lose today for georgia to get in.

Your statement that the Vols are going to the SEC championship game is an opinion, not a given--especially against UK. Therefore, since you yourself said that Georgia can indeed realistically make the championship game, it would seem as though you are the one who is not paying attention. But then again, I wouldn't expect logical, objective thought from a typical SEC fanboy.


Oh and if UT loses and UGA ends up beating LSU in the championship game we would love to see USC in the sugar bowl since this UGA team would kill this USC team.

Please, Georgia is so overrated. LSU and FLA are the only teams in the SEC that can compete with or beat the Trojans.

But like I said, LSU is going to win the championship game--no matter who you have a hard-on for, Mr. straw man.
 
2007-11-24 11:03:07 AM
Mizzou is going down
\
johnhawks.net
 
2007-11-24 11:03:39 AM
YouWinAgainGravity: Ok I've figured out the scenario needed to put Virginia Tech in the title game:

West Virginia loses to Connecticut or Pittsburgh
Georgia loses to Georgia Tech
Tennessee loses to Kentucky
In the SEC championship game, LSU loses to Georgia
The winner of Kansas/Missouri loses to Oklahoma

Looks ridiculous, but with the way this season has gone, it actually has a very slim 1% chance of happening!


So Oklahoma gets in if all that happens and Virginia Tech loses to Virginia.
USC - All that, and Oklahoma loses to Oklahoma State.
Ditto, Florida, Texas, B.C. and even Hawaii

But is that really the case -- can Virginia Tech move up 6 whole spots in the standings, or will LSU or Kansas move to #2 with everyone else losing?
 
2007-11-24 11:03:51 AM
With as farked up as this year has been with upsets and teams with weak schedules going undefeated (I'm looking at you Hawaii and your 119th SoS) there needs to be a playoff...now.
 
2007-11-24 11:06:11 AM
MiamiBlues: But is that really the case -- can Virginia Tech move up 6 whole spots in the standings, or will LSU or Kansas move to #2 with everyone else losing?

I think that if either Kansas or Missouri loses, they drop several spots in the rankings. They're still not getting a lot of credit for their schedules, and a loss will be an excuse for the voters to say "I told you so".

I think LSU will still be above VT in the rankings after this week, which is why I figure they would have to lose again in the SEC championship.

Now that I think about it, if Tennessee can beat LSU, I can remove that Kentucky/Tennessee scenario. Georgia still has to lose against Georgia Tech.
 
2007-11-24 11:06:15 AM
I_Fly_Planes: With as farked up as this year has been with upsets and teams with weak schedules going undefeated (I'm looking at you Hawaii and your 119th SoS) there needs to be a playoff...now.

bull. arrow's paradox dictates that the results will be the same a percentage of time that isn't statistically significant.
 
2007-11-24 11:07:16 AM
bondsbw:
Are 11 teams in your conference bowl eligible?


Bzzzzzzt.

Vandy isn't eligible, neither is Ole Miss. Vandy is 5-6 right now.

Come on dude. You're the type of fan that makes everyone think that dumbass cliche about SEC fans, is right on target.
 
2007-11-24 11:07:30 AM
Oh and in case anyone didn't see, Callahan got fired.
 
2007-11-24 11:08:22 AM
byukid: I_Fly_Planes: With as farked up as this year has been with upsets and teams with weak schedules going undefeated (I'm looking at you Hawaii and your 119th SoS) there needs to be a playoff...now.

bull. arrow's paradox dictates that the results will be the same different a percentage of time that isn't statistically significant.


whoops. meant to write a different sentence but got distracted by the fact that BYU will crush the U
 
2007-11-24 11:10:03 AM
YouWinAgainGravity: Oh and in case anyone didn't see, Callahan got fired.

Saw that...and he'll probably get hired by Michigan.
 
2007-11-24 11:10:54 AM
Ouch I just sat on my balls: Saw that...and he'll probably get hired by Michigan.

I know you're kidding, but I kind of hope you're right.
 
2007-11-24 11:14:40 AM
Oh and in case anyone didn't see, Callahan got fired

And Franchione stepped down at A & M..
 
2007-11-24 11:16:05 AM
YouWinAgainGravity: Oh and in case anyone didn't see, Callahan got fired.

Saw that too. Not really surprising though.

Coach Fran quit too.
 
2007-11-24 11:16:46 AM
Hey! There's a reason the SEC had the highest-ranked one-loss, two-loss, three-loss, and four-loss teams in the top 25 coming into this week.

I think it's called "irrational bias". There may also be a geographic bias in the make-up of the poll voters. Not sure.

At least they can point out how much better they are than the Sun Belt conference. They've played enough inter-conference games with them to know that. So I suppose that puts the SEC right up there with the MWC.
 
2007-11-24 11:17:08 AM
Shakes fist at RonJeremy.

How dare you steal my thunder?
 
2007-11-24 11:18:48 AM
Tyrone Biggums

Heh, Sorry Dude..
 
2007-11-24 11:19:14 AM
img233.imageshack.us
 
2007-11-24 11:20:25 AM
So if I follow you, submitter, you're mad because other conferences don't get the luxury of being considered strong conferences in the event that rivalry games go sour? Is that what I'm reading here?

If that's what I'm reading, I know I sure as hell don't believe that. Rivalry game is a rivalry game-no matter what the record, you're very likely to see the underdog overperform their asses off. Hell, might even be a case that the team can't beat anyone else just because they're built to exploit the rival's weakness.

\Example: I doubt Miami will just roll over today at BC. Gonna be close, and might even wreck the dust-mite sized chance Matt Ryan has at the Heisman.
\\But still, FOR BOSTON!!
 
2007-11-24 11:21:19 AM
oh, i almost forgot. subby, you're an idiot.
 
2007-11-24 11:21:31 AM
And before I go to sleep until 8pm eastern, 5 pacific, I would just like to predict that Mizzou is going to beat KU and their wannabe NY Giants uniforms today.

Furthermore, Mizzou's cheerleaders are much hotter than KU's (see side-by-side comparison on ESPN College Gameday, currently airing).
 
2007-11-24 11:22:51 AM
lpAZ: YOU haven't been paying attention. From a season high NINE players out, USC is again healthy.

No one will beat SC.


I think you would be sadly disappointed if they play UGA in a bowl game

SideburnSlim: Please, Georgia is so overrated. LSU and FLA are the only teams in the SEC that can compete with or beat the Trojans.

But like I said, LSU is going to win the championship game--no matter who you have a hard-on for, Mr. straw man.


Funny, UGA kicked the shiat out of florida and killed auburn who was one play from beating LSU.

LSU has looked worse as the year has went on, florida is good, just young and UGA matured well this year if you paid attention. If UGA plays USC they will destroy them, USC has not defended the run well all year.
 
2007-11-24 11:25:50 AM
love the headline, subby. So true, so true.

WOOO HAWAII
 
2007-11-24 11:27:41 AM
PLEEEZE greenlight the Callahan fired at Nebraska thread. I want to see thousands of people dump on that schmuck.
 
2007-11-24 11:28:19 AM
I enjoyed watching the fans with the "University of Spoiled Children" sign get some airtime during the USC vs. ASU game the other night. That's always been my favorite nickname for USC.

/hate USC with a passion
 
2007-11-24 11:31:19 AM
I see the Ultimate Border War festivities have begun, so let me add my contribution.

If you had to choose a mascot for your school, would you choose this

img102.imageshack.us

a sleek, svelte, highly-evolved predator who will rip out your throat with style...

or would you choose this:

img108.imageshack.us

You're damn right.

Go Tigers!
 
2007-11-24 11:31:41 AM
steamingpile: florida is good, just young *and was wrought with injuries this year*

Fixed that for you.
 
2007-11-24 11:32:46 AM
Mentat: I see the Ultimate Border War festivities have begun, so let me add my contribution.

If you had to choose a mascot for your school, would you choose this



a sleek, svelte, highly-evolved predator who will rip out your throat with style...

or would you choose this:



You're damn right.

Go Tigers!


Its a kitty kitty!

/Tigers have always been my favorite choice for a mascot.
 
2007-11-24 11:32:48 AM
Ouch I just sat on my balls: Really wanna see OSU VS USC Rose Bowl. That would be KILLER. And would love to see USC make total fools of OSU.

If you don't get it in the Rose Bowl, tOSU and USC are starting a home and home next season. The Bucks go to L.A. in 2008 and the Trojans head to Columbus in 2009. Should be a good game and stop the whining about my Buck's weak schedule for a couple years.
 
2007-11-24 11:37:56 AM
As much as I would love for the Illini to play Florida this year (would have to be in the Cap One Bowl), I can't help but root for Illinois' first Rose Bowl appearance since 1984.

Therefore, I must (grudgingly) root for whatever scenario gets Ohio State in the NC game.

/Go Sooners!
//Go whoever plays Oregon!
 
2007-11-24 11:38:15 AM
aquigley: love the headline, subby. So true, so true.

WOOO HAWAII


Should you even be here? I don't think your cubbies made the news.

/Sorry, couldn't resist.
//Go Sox!
 
2007-11-24 11:39:23 AM
So, SEC bashers, quick question: what happens when the best team in the SEC plays the best team in the rest of the country for the national championship?

Florida over Ohio State.
LSU over Oklahoma.
Tennessee over Florida State.
Florida over Florida State.
Nebraska over Florida.

Oops. Probably should have stopped before that last one.

Nonetheless, any chance this might have something to do with the public perception of the SEC as the dominant conference?
 
2007-11-24 11:39:23 AM
I'm getting a kick out of these SEC/OhioSt. people not realizing that MU/KU is the battle for #1 today, with WVA coming in at #2. MU/KU will solidify their national title bid when they beat OU in San Antonio next week. Also, these ancient Big8/12 schools aren't "small" by any means, these are BCS schools filling BCS coffers, no one who has any say (ie- the six conference comissioners and their university presidents) has a problem with any one of their members winning.

M-I-Z fark-K-U
 
2007-11-24 11:40:16 AM
Any conference, and I mean you SEC, which considers the Sun Belt and Conference USA to be acceptable caliber for out-of-conference opponents during the season deserves no respect. Those to are barely better than the best AA conferences out there (and the Sun Belt is worse!).

Man up and face some real competition from the WAC of MWC like Pac10 teams do every year, not to mention we play EVERY OTHER TEAM in our conference--NINE GAMES--unlike you pansies who only play 8 then pad your schedule vs the AA Southern Conference.

SEC is a bunch of crybaby bullies.
 
GOB
2007-11-24 11:40:26 AM
bondsbw: If you cannot answer "YES" to all of the following questions, then you have no right to talk smack about the SEC:

Does every team in your conference have to play at least 8 other teams in your conference every year?

Is there another game, a championship, in your conference?

Are 11 teams in your conference bowl eligible?

Have at least 9 of your conference's teams been ranked at some point this season?


Thanks for spelling out my rights. I wasn't sure what i was allowed to say in this thread until you layed down the law there. SEC is a strong conference but it's assholes like you they make people want to hate it.

SEC v PAC10 = 0 1
SEC v BigEast= 1 2
SEC v ACC = 2 1
SEC v Big12 = 2 1
SEC v Big10 = no games played

SEC v other big conferences total: 5 wins 5 losses
Respectable, but not dominant.
 
2007-11-24 11:41:11 AM
I_Can't_Believe_it's_not_Boutros: Nonetheless, any chance this might have something to do with the public perception of the SEC as the dominant conference?

At the top, I agree, the SEC always has a strong team. In the middle, though, the SEC doesn't always fair well in bowl games. That's where the criticism comes from.
 
2007-11-24 11:42:50 AM
southernappeal.blogspot.com
 
2007-11-24 11:45:06 AM
Third Day Mark: /Tigers have always been my favorite choice for a mascot.

Of course! Only a Kansan would choose a demented chicken in loafers as a mascot.
 
2007-11-24 11:46:57 AM
Third Day Mark: steamingpile: florida is good, just young *and was wrought with injuries this year*

Fixed that for you.


I didnt hear of very many injuries except to tebows non throwing shoulder, the receivers were there as well as the O-line. Problem is the receivers didnt block and run the routes like they should so it caused problems elsewhere, in the end they were just too young.

hokiebuckeye: At the top, I agree, the SEC always has a strong team. In the middle, though, the SEC doesn't always fair well in bowl games. That's where the criticism comes from.

Thats the biggest problem, if some teams dont make it to higher bowls players get down and pissy thinking they should be in a better game then go out and shiat the bed. I blame most of the coaches and their sense of entitlement to the better bowl games.

Top to bottom there really isnt a better conference most years and the top teams usually blow out their bowl opponents.
 
2007-11-24 11:49:30 AM
Kuta: Any conference, and I mean you SEC, which considers the Sun Belt and Conference USA to be acceptable caliber for out-of-conference opponents during the season deserves no respect. Those to are barely better than the best AA conferences out there (and the Sun Belt is worse!).

Man up and face some real competition from the WAC of MWC like Pac10 teams do every year, not to mention we play EVERY OTHER TEAM in our conference--NINE GAMES--unlike you pansies who only play 8 then pad your schedule vs the AA Southern Conference.

SEC is a bunch of crybaby bullies.



Alabama called. They said talk to LA Monroe then get back to them about that.
 
2007-11-24 11:50:09 AM
At least one of the national title participants is going to be decided by a pair of Big 12 Games: KU V. MU, and the winner v. Oklahoma.

In completely unrelated news, SEC fans are desperately scrambling to find reasons why their conference is still the best.

/I'm just enjoying the hooplah, and patiently waiting for college football to put in a real championship system.
//Unlike tonight, when I'll be watching KU play MU.
 
2007-11-24 11:51:34 AM
steamingpile: Third Day Mark: steamingpile: florida is good, just young *and was wrought with injuries this year*

Fixed that for you.

I didnt hear of very many injuries except to tebows non throwing shoulder, the receivers were there as well as the O-line. Problem is the receivers didnt block and run the routes like they should so it caused problems elsewhere, in the end they were just too young.



Gators Injuries halfway through the year (no pop)
 
2007-11-24 11:54:09 AM
For all you SEC apologists, here is some insight into how the conference works. In reviewing the schedules of all 12 SEC teams, it seems odd to me that, when Georgia plays at Georgia Tech today, it will only be the 4th time this year that an SEC school has gone on the road to play a BCS-conference team (at a non-neutral site).

The other games:
Mississippi St at West Virginia
South Carolina at North Carolina
Tennesee at Cal

Until the SEC starts scheduling games at BCS conference opponents, I will never buy their legitimacy as being the best conference in the country.
 
2007-11-24 11:54:46 AM
The two best conferences in the country beat the crap out of themselves (SEC and Pac 10). That's the breaks. Oregon would have been fine had they not lost Dixon (quite likely the most important single player on any team in all of the land. Think Vince Young with Texas a few years back) but that's just the way it wgoes sometimes.
 
2007-11-24 11:55:04 AM
steamingpile: If UGA plays USC they will destroy them, USC has not defended the run well all year.

USC is 6th in the country against the run.

steamingpile = SEC trolling turd
 
2007-11-24 11:55:16 AM
Well all I can say is, go Jayhawks! and the other thing is - ding dong the Callahan's fired, the Callahan's fired - ding dong the stupid oh Callahan got fired....

//bleeding Husker red//
 
2007-11-24 11:58:50 AM
steamingpile: Thats the biggest problem, if some teams dont make it to higher bowls players get down and pissy thinking they should be in a better game then go out and shiat the bed. I blame most of the coaches and their sense of entitlement to the better bowl games.

This is a weak argument. I would assume that the team would want to make a statement and beat the crap out of the other team.
 
2007-11-24 12:02:01 PM
WE HAVE TIGER HEAD!!!
 
2007-11-24 12:02:08 PM
boris975: For all you SEC apologists, here is some insight into how the conference works. In reviewing the schedules of all 12 SEC teams, it seems odd to me that, when Georgia plays at Georgia Tech today, it will only be the 4th time this year that an SEC school has gone on the road to play a BCS-conference team (at a non-neutral site).

The other games:
Mississippi St at West Virginia
South Carolina at North Carolina
Tennesee at Cal

Until the SEC starts scheduling games at BCS conference opponents, I will never buy their legitimacy as being the best conference in the country.



THIS.
 
2007-11-24 12:02:53 PM
GOB:
SEC v PAC10 = 0 1
SEC v BigEast= 1 2
SEC v ACC = 2 1
SEC v Big12 = 2 1
SEC v Big10 = no games played

SEC v other big conferences total: 5 wins 5 losses
Respectable, but not dominant.


Shall we review a bit deeper?

CAL beat TENN (Vols best in the SEC East?)

SOUTH FLORIDA beat AUBURN (Bulls beat traditional power?)
KENTUCKY beat LOUISVILLE (Quality win over quality rival)
WEST VIRGINIA beat Miss St (Power beats doormat)

LSU beats VIRGINIA TECH (Quality win over quality opponent)
FLORIDA ST beats ALABAMA (Quality win over quality opponent)
N CAROLINA beast S CAROLINA (WTF?)

GEORGIA beats OKLAHOMA ST (Big time power beats mediocrity)
AUBURN beats KANSAS ST (Big time power beats mediocrity)
MISSOURI beats OLE MISS (Rising star beats doormat)

SEC IS AFRAID OF THE BIG TEN OUTSIDE OF BOWL GAMES.

Aside from the last week of the season with traditional SEC vs ACC rivalries, the SEC really is all about the hype. Only 14 non-conference games against BCS conferences, and yet NINE against AA patsies.

PAC 10 plays 11 non-conference games (and would play more, except that we have 9 in-conference games) and only 2 against AA patsies but I forgive Arizona and Oregon State for those transgressions.
 
OXO
2007-11-24 12:03:05 PM
Great headline. I'm sure there will be at least one media slut who will claim that losing to Arkansas proves LSU is actually the greatest team ever...
 
2007-11-24 12:04:16 PM
Kuta: Man up and face some real competition from the WAC of MWC like Pac10 teams do every year, not to mention we play EVERY OTHER TEAM in our conference--NINE GAMES--unlike you pansies who only play 8 then pad your schedule vs the AA Southern Conference.

Problem is even when SEC teams schedule teams from those conferences we get shiat on for blowing them out and the travel just inst worth the effort.

Tyrone Biggums: This is a weak argument. I would assume that the team would want to make a statement and beat the crap out of the other team.

No, they are the SEC, how dare they put them in a bowl game against what they consider an inferior opponent? I have witnessed it first hand from UT players a few years(last year?) ago, they were pissed cause they went to a shiatty game then lost to an average team that was up for the game, wisconsin I think.
 
2007-11-24 12:06:05 PM
thegoodthebadthedumb: As much as I would love for the Illini to play Florida this year (would have to be in the Cap One Bowl), I can't help but root for Illinois' first Rose Bowl appearance since 1984.

Therefore, I must (grudgingly) root for whatever scenario gets Ohio State in the NC game.

/Go Sooners!
//Go whoever plays Oregon!


I agree, I think I'm in for whatever scenario lets Illinois go the the Rose Bowl. This is because they have had such a crappy past couple of years (decades) and they have finally turned the corner. They will represent the Big Ten well...
 
OXO
2007-11-24 12:06:46 PM
Congratulations to Texas A&M on the great win yesterday. You whupped UT and got rid of Fran on the same day. That's a hell of a good day.

/hook'em
 
2007-11-24 12:09:13 PM
I wish Dennis Dixon didn't get hurt. Oregon was fun to watch.
 
2007-11-24 12:10:56 PM
southernappeal.blogspot.com

Clever school nickname, or euphamism for Republicans on their period?

You decide.
 
2007-11-24 12:11:33 PM
Oregon was fun to watch, but all you need to do is turn right to WVU. They are the original spread offense, and possibly MORE fun to watch. Also, i'm sure they have a hankerin to lay a beatdown on uconn and pitt because they know it will finally get them into the title game after being just outside the door the last 5 years.
 
2007-11-24 12:12:39 PM
boris975: For all you SEC apologists, here is some insight into how the conference works. In reviewing the schedules of all 12 SEC teams, it seems odd to me that, when Georgia plays at Georgia Tech today, it will only be the 4th time this year that an SEC school has gone on the road to play a BCS-conference team (at a non-neutral site).

The other games:
Mississippi St at West Virginia
South Carolina at North Carolina
Tennesee at Cal

Until the SEC starts scheduling games at BCS conference opponents, I will never buy their legitimacy as being the best conference in the country.


Well, lets see what Pac-10 teams have done for scheduling away games versus BCS conferences: (I hope I got this right)

Washington @ Syracuse
WSU @ Wisconsin
USC @ Nebraska
USC @ Notre Dame
Oregon @ Michigan

So the Pac-10 plays ONE MORE away game at a BCS school. Yeah, they can complain.
 
2007-11-24 12:13:30 PM
steamingpile: Problem is even when SEC teams schedule teams from those conferences we get shiat on for blowing them out and the travel just inst worth the effort.

BIG 10 too far away for you to travel? MAC? Yeah, those guys spend much of their time playing with each other, but there's no excuse for padding against the AA.

No, they are the SEC, how dare they put them in a bowl game against what they consider an inferior opponent? I have witnessed it first hand from UT players a few years(last year?) ago, they were pissed cause they went to a shiatty game then lost to an average team that was up for the game, wisconsin I think.

Boo farking hoo. I thought the hallmark of the SEC was getting UP for bowl games? Sounds to me like a bunch of crybabies believing their own hype and not leaving it on the field.
 
2007-11-24 12:18:24 PM
People keep saying that it's a down-year because traditional powers are not playing well this year. Why are other schools even bothering if the championship doesn't count unless it's not Ohio, Florida, LSU, USC etc. The bowl games will be as important as they were last year, and year before that. No matter who plays there.

That said, bring me the playoffs.
 
2007-11-24 12:22:09 PM
Tyrone Biggums:
Well, lets see what Pac-10 teams have done for scheduling away games versus BCS conferences: (I hope I got this right)

Washington @ Syracuse
WSU @ Wisconsin
USC @ Nebraska
USC @ Notre Dame
Oregon @ Michigan

So the Pac-10 plays ONE MORE away game at a BCS school. Yeah, they can complain.


Arizona St vs Colorado (W at home)
UCLA vs Notre Dame (L at home)
Oregon St vs Cincinnati (L at away)
Washington vs Ohio State (L at home)
Stanford vs Notre Dame (today at home)

I've got to assume that all of these are Home and Home pairings, and Notre Dame traditionally plays Standard and USC (and often UCLA). None of those BCS conference opponents are considered doormats, though Notre Dame has had a...um....year for the history books.
 
2007-11-24 12:27:30 PM
FiascoSauce: Oregon was fun to watch, but all you need to do is turn right to WVU. They are the original spread offense, and possibly MORE fun to watch. Also, i'm sure they have a hankerin to lay a beatdown on uconn and pitt because they know it will finally get them into the title game after being just outside the door the last 5 years.

WVU annoys me for some reason. I think its because I know Pat White is terrible at throwing the ball. Dixon was actually a pretty decent passer.
 
2007-11-24 12:27:35 PM
Kuta:
I've got to assume that all of these are Home and Home pairings, and Notre Dame traditionally plays Standard and USC (and often UCLA). None of those BCS conference opponents are considered doormats, though Notre Dame has had a...um....year for the history books.


Technically, can you even count Notre Dame? I mean, they don't really play in a "BCS Conference".
 
2007-11-24 12:28:07 PM
Championship game without OSU and USC.

/Maybe god does like me.
 
2007-11-24 12:28:35 PM
If you want to see a spread offense that relies on more than just a QB (see Oregon) and can do more than just run the ball (see WVU), tune in tonight to see Daniel, Temple, Maclin, Rucker, Coffman, Franklin, and Co. put a curbstomping on KU ... on their way to a national title tilt with WVU...

/M-I-Z
//Z-O-U, Alum '98
 
2007-11-24 12:28:48 PM
thegoodthebadthedumb: As much as I would love for the Illini to play Florida this year (would have to be in the Cap One Bowl), I can't help but root for Illinois' first Rose Bowl appearance since 1984.

Therefore, I must (grudgingly) root for whatever scenario gets Ohio State in the NC game.


I think a West Virginia loss to UConn today or Pitt next week would accomplish that. Also possible if Oklahoma wins the Big 12 champoionship.

Oh, and for those using bowl-eligibility as a barometer of conference studliness, keep in mind the Big Ten is 10/11 this year, with 8 teams actually likely to go bowling (7 wins).
 
2007-11-24 12:36:12 PM
Tyrone Biggums: Kuta:
I've got to assume that all of these are Home and Home pairings, and Notre Dame traditionally plays Standard and USC (and often UCLA). None of those BCS conference opponents are considered doormats, though Notre Dame has had a...um....year for the history books.

Technically, can you even count Notre Dame? I mean, they don't really play in a "BCS Conference".


Well, you counted them, so I counted them. ;) In just about any other year, Notre Dame should be considered as in a BCS conference. Army and Navy (and WKU until they vastly improve the Sun Belt) don't really have a lot of consistent bowl game presence, but Notre Dame is usually in the hunt for a national championship, or at least a BCS berth.
 
2007-11-24 12:41:52 PM
Trainspotr

thegoodthebadthedumb: As much as I would love for the Illini to play Florida this year (would have to be in the Cap One Bowl), I can't help but root for Illinois' first Rose Bowl appearance since 1984.

Therefore, I must (grudgingly) root for whatever scenario gets Ohio State in the NC game.

I think a West Virginia loss to UConn today or Pitt next week would accomplish that. Also possible if Oklahoma wins the Big 12 champoionship.


I agree re: WVU. However, I think that a Oklahoma Big XII championship is more likely. I'll bet WVU is pretty psyched to get to the NC game after coming so close.

Also, keep in mind that we still need to get in the top 14 to be BCS eligible. So we need some teams above us to fall. Texas already helped us out by losing to A&M. I don't see BC losing to Miami, so the most likely candidate to fall, IMHO is Oregon. (And VaTech will hopefully take care of Virginia today.)
 
2007-11-24 12:45:21 PM
How long has Eddie Royal been at Virginia Tech? He must be going for a doctorate.

Kuta: but Notre Dame is usually in the hunt for a national championship, or at least a BCS berth.

Umm, they have been 3 times in the past 15 years. Roughly the same as football powerhouse Northwestern. But I understand and agree with your point.
 
2007-11-24 12:47:19 PM
img107.imageshack.us

The Showdown in Mo-Town.
 
2007-11-24 12:49:38 PM
This is how weird I am:

I've had no chance to make it down to Morgantown to catch a game, although I've made a point going to great lengths to catch all the games.

I'm going to be in Phoenix during the Fiesta (which was planned back in MArch) so I was thinking how cool it would be if the Mountaineers wound up there.

Now they are aiming for the FARKING NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP.

Unreal.
 
2007-11-24 12:51:08 PM
*sigh*

i39.photobucket.com

C'mon, guys, let's go 8-4 7-5 6-6 today...

/6-6?!?!?
//Begins crying already
 
2007-11-24 12:52:09 PM
I hope the MU - KU game has its own thread.

/Wish I could be there!
 
2007-11-24 12:56:12 PM
Kuta:
Well, you counted them, so I counted them. ;) In just about any other year, Notre Dame should be considered as in a BCS conference. Army and Navy (and WKU until they vastly improve the Sun Belt) don't really have a lot of consistent bowl game presence, but Notre Dame is usually in the hunt for a national championship, or at least a BCS berth.


Yeah, I originally added them with the thought that they historically compete. Then I looked at this years' record :)
 
2007-11-24 12:59:41 PM
thegoodthebadthedumb:
Also, keep in mind that we still need to get in the top 14 to be BCS eligible. So we need some teams above us to fall. Texas already helped us out by losing to A&M. I don't see BC losing to Miami, so the most likely candidate to fall, IMHO is Oregon. (And VaTech will hopefully take care of Virginia today.)


Actually, the BCS powers announced this week that if fewer than 10 of the top 14 are eligible (because of the 2 teams per conference limit) they would expand the selection pool to the top 18. So even if the OSU doesn't get the championship game, Illinois could still get an at-large BCS bowl.
 
2007-11-24 01:02:55 PM
Hehe, subby here.

If some fans of SEC schools weren't quite so defensive all the time people might actually give them some credit. It is hard to give kudos out when somebody incessantly blabs about how good something is and acts like a grave injustice is done when somebody doesn't slob the knob they're promoting.

I still don't get the whole "SEC fan" inferiority complex thing where fans of SEC schools feel like they have something to prove to everybody else about the conference that their school is in. I'm an Ohio State fan, I'm not a Big Televen fan.

At least LSU won't have what amounts to another home game in New Orleans.
 
2007-11-24 01:03:43 PM
PseudoNic: Please can some people win today and keep tOSU out.

Sorry, WoodyHayes.


No problem buddy.

Gig 'em! :)

/thought Texas A&M was going to get slaughtered
 
2007-11-24 01:13:11 PM
WoodyHayes:


If some fans of SEC schools weren't quite so defensive all the time people might actually give them some credit. It is hard to give kudos out when somebody incessantly blabs about how good something is and acts like a grave injustice is done when somebody doesn't slob the knob they're promoting.

I still don't get the whole "SEC fan" inferiority complex thing where fans of SEC schools feel like they have something to prove to everybody else about the conference that their school is in.


If we win Vandy wins today, do I have permission to go crazy in here, just a little bit? I'll only threadjack once or twice, I promise.
 
2007-11-24 01:13:30 PM
chuggernaught: Husker fan for the Jayhawks! Go get 'em KU!

pjbreeze: Well all I can say is, go Jayhawks! and the other thing is - ding dong the Callahan's fired, the Callahan's fired - ding dong the stupid oh Callahan got fired....

//bleeding Husker red//


We appreciate the support. You guys can go back to being awesome soon enough. Let us have our moment in the sun in football for once in my lifetime.

/KU fan w/mad respect for Husker Nation
//hated Callahan
 
2007-11-24 01:13:47 PM
I don't get college football, but that is because I am from Boston and went to a college without a football team...so, my question is this, are you a total freaking loser for rooting for some school you didn't even go to? Wouldn't it be like going to random high schools you didn't go to and rooting for those teams?

Don't mean any offense, I just don't get it. And no BC doesn't count as a real team, the super fans suck and I went to a Catholic Conf rival of BC High.
 
2007-11-24 01:15:10 PM
Swagz: I hope the MU - KU game has its own thread.

/Wish I could be there!


Agreed on both counts.
 
2007-11-24 01:18:31 PM
Guess who....
 
2007-11-24 01:18:35 PM
Fleet: If we win Vandy wins today, do I have permission to go crazy in here, just a little bit? I'll only threadjack once or twice, I promise.

Aye man, no doubt. Vandy fans deserve to live it up!

Go 'Dores!
 
2007-11-24 01:19:56 PM
If 'Bama loses to Auburn I wouldn't be surprised if mass suicides started hapening all over my great state. Also someone will kill Saban
 
2007-11-24 01:22:13 PM
VA Tech sure looks like they suck.

AlgertMan: If 'Bama loses to Auburn I wouldn't be surprised if mass suicides started hapening all over my great state. Also someone will kill Saban

See, I have a couple friends that are 'Bama fans, but if it will cause someone to eliminate Saban, I gotta root for Auburn.
 
2007-11-24 01:22:22 PM
GimpyNip: I don't get college football, but that is because I am from Boston and went to a college without a football team...so, my question is this, are you a total freaking loser for rooting for some school you didn't even go to?

Not at all, though it should be a better reason than they're the top team in a given year.

I've grown to become big fans of a few schools nowhere near Ohio, one through an experience in my life and the other through learning about the history of their team. I think fandom is a very interesting thing and that you can't necessarily choose a school to root for and have it be a genuine feeling. You can't just adopt a program for arbitrary reasons, something about that program has to do something to adopt you and bring you in. You don't adopt a team, a team adopts you.
 
2007-11-24 01:22:23 PM
GimpyNip: I don't get college football, but that is because I am from Boston and went to a college without a football team...so, my question is this, are you a total freaking loser for rooting for some school you didn't even go to? Wouldn't it be like going to random high schools you didn't go to and rooting for those teams?

Don't mean any offense, I just don't get it. And no BC doesn't count as a real team, the super fans suck and I went to a Catholic Conf rival of BC High.


I don't know the exact rule, but I know two people like this who grew up in Michigan. One went to a small art school and the other one went to Central Michigan. One is a Wolverine fan and one is a Spartan fan. To their credit, I have never seen either one root even slightly for the "other" team.

And then there's the douche who grew up in Indiana, and switches between Notre Dame, IU and even Purdue once in a while. That, I don't get at all.

I think you're allowed one BCS school to root for, unless you went to a BCS school yourself. Then you're stuck rooting for your alma mater.
 
2007-11-24 01:24:19 PM
WoodyHayes: I've grown to become big fans a big fan of a few schools

Just three hours of sleep over the past three days, cripes. How the hell am I going to stay awake for the Iron Bowl?
 
2007-11-24 01:26:45 PM
Third Day Mark: Hey Subby, go choke yourself with Troy Smith's (Or insert other failed QB from your conference of choice) hand.

SEC West from Top to Bottom:


LSU: 10-2 (6-2)
Auburn: 7-4 (4-3)
Alabama: 6-5 (4-3)
Arkansas: 8-4 (4-4)
Miss. St: 7-5 (4-4)
Ole Miss: 3-9 (0-8)

If Ole Miss knocked off LSU, You would have a point. A 7-4 team knocking off the #1 in the nation? Not out of the ordinary.


Had Stanford scheduled 4 Sun Belt pansies OOC they'd be bowl eligible too. Get over it. Arkansas is over rated and so is your conference.

steamingpile: Millzners: PSU and Wisky beat their middle of the conference teams last year. So I'm not so sure the SEC is that much better, they are definately better this year than last.

I think the problem people have with college football is that they think because the SEC is admittedly better, that they are somehow WAY better than everyone else. That's not true, it's not that extreme.

I dont think that but I do think that they get shiat for playing certain teams that the pac 10 get credit for beating. San diego state was on UGA's schedule for 2 or 3 years and we got shiat for beating the shiat out of them, this is the same team that nobody mentioned that alot of the pac 10 teams played and didnt draw the same sort of shiat.

Just like Troy this year, they are a decent team but UGA got shiat for not slaughtering them when Troy has killed everyone else on their schedule. Div II-AA teams are no longer the cream puffs they once were and you just may lose to them, right michigan?


/People hate winners.
//Which is why they hate the SEC.


You're still spouting off that Troy is a DIV II team? Wow you are a total farking moron.
 
2007-11-24 01:27:11 PM
Trainspotr: I think you're allowed one BCS school to root for, unless you went to a BCS school yourself. Then you're stuck rooting for your alma mater.

There's someone who frequents college football threads here who seems to think that "TheyAreRight" about everything. Hopefully he's taking notes.
 
2007-11-24 01:29:59 PM
Woody and trainsptr, makes sense, thanks. I would figure if you went to a BCS school you prob would be rabid about your team/school even more so if you live in a state without an NFL team or any pro sports teams.

Anyway, I fall into the casual college sports fan mold. I will basically only pay attention to the championship game as it is usually interesting and tends to feature a few top draft picks.

Anyway, enjoy the games!
 
2007-11-24 01:30:36 PM
Fleet: *sigh*



C'mon, guys, let's go 8-4 7-5 6-6 today...

/6-6?!?!?
//Begins crying already



best of luck today. had fun cheering with you last week.
 
2007-11-24 01:30:38 PM
GimpyNip: I don't get college football, but that is because I am from Boston and went to a college without a football team...so, my question is this, are you a total freaking loser for rooting for some school you didn't even go to? Wouldn't it be like going to random high schools you didn't go to and rooting for those teams?

Much like a pro team, you can pick any college. Maybe you have some friends that went there, maybe you like the area, maybe you like the weird offense they run. Unlike the NFL, there is a pretty wide variety of offenses that are played in CFB that many people think makes the game a LOT more fun to watch (I am one of them).

I go to a school that is a I-AA school, but I was raised an ASU fan because my dad and aunt went there and my grandma worked for the man the field is named after. Having moved around a lot as a youth, I lived in Oregon and caught a Beavers game while I was there, so that gives them a +1 because it was a good experience. I like WSU because I have a LOT of friends that went there since I went to HS in Eastern Washington. I like USC because I admire the hell out of them and they certainly represent the conference well amongst out-of-conference games, plus I had the pleasure of living in Southern California during their two title seasons and I got to go to two games during their undefeated 2004 season. I like watching Oregon play, the spread offense is fun to watch. I like Cal's fast little receivers. U of A can go to hell. Same with UW in general, although I hope they beat Hawaii. I could care less about Stanford or UCLA though, but since I like the rest of the Pac-10 I'll root for them against anyone outside of the conference.

/thanks, UCLA, for losing to Notre Dame, you douchebags!
 
2007-11-24 01:33:27 PM
Vols just scored on their opening play from scrimmage. 7-0 Vols...dammit.. Lets go Cats!
 
2007-11-24 01:33:57 PM
Solid State Vittles: There's someone who frequents college football threads here who seems to think that "TheyAreRight" about everything. Hopefully he's taking notes.

Yeah, gee, I should be forced to not like teams that I like because, by god, I have to pick one team and like them no matter whether I enjoy watching other teams play or not, by golly!

/sorry some of us move around a lot as a kid and get to experience several different places, all of which left good memories for us.
 
2007-11-24 01:34:42 PM
hammerhead_jd: Vols just scored on their opening play from scrimmage. 7-0 Vols...dammit.. Lets go Cats!

this.

come on woodson. show me something on senior day.
 
2007-11-24 01:38:27 PM
This thread is useless until 8pm est tonight.
 
2007-11-24 01:38:42 PM
I hate KU with the heat of a thousand suns.

When I was a varsity debater for K-State, the entire van full of debate geeks would flip off the KU exit sign on I-70 and scream like barbarians as we passed.

I hate KU. HATE.

That said...
Their football team is for real. They play tough defense. Their quarterback is simply amazing. They even have a running game. They rarely make mistakes (penalties), and I believe they lead the nation in turnover margin.

I know Mizzou is good this year, too. I think KU has the best chance for victory tonight.

Anyone who thinks Oklahoma is going to beat EITHER KU or Mizzou in the Big XII championship game is delusional. One hit on that concussed quarterback, and it'll be back to Suckville for OU. And that's assuming they get past Oklahoma State.
 
2007-11-24 01:40:16 PM
WoodyHayes: You can't just adopt a program for arbitrary reasons, something about that program has to do something to adopt you and bring you in. You don't adopt a team, a team adopts you.

Interesting. I never really thought about circumstances like that, because it's never happened to me, but you make a good point about a team adopting you. I was raised in Central Ill and grew up an Illini fan, was lucky enough to go to school there and have maintained my (mostly unrequited) fandom for years.

I'm guessing neither of your adoptive teams are in the BigTen, though.
 
2007-11-24 01:40:18 PM
WoodyHayes: Hehe, subby here.

Figures, no big 10 fan has any room to biatch about over rated conferences, especially this year, WH should be forbidden to post here for stupidity.
 
2007-11-24 01:42:53 PM
GimpyNip: I don't get college football, but that is because I am from Boston and went to a college without a football team...so, my question is this, are you a total freaking loser for rooting for some school you didn't even go to? Wouldn't it be like going to random high schools you didn't go to and rooting for those teams?

Don't mean any offense, I just don't get it. And no BC doesn't count as a real team, the super fans suck and I went to a Catholic Conf rival of BC High.


Another viewpoint: I went to a relatively large Div I school in a small, poor town. Funny thing is that most of the locals are fans of our biggest rival. After becoming good friends with a few locals, I posed this same question to them. I got two different answers:

1) Hatred for the "rich college kids" in town that turned into love for the rival. This may sound odd, but it is very true. I remember hearing this during the Duke Lacross rape case as well. And I think a lot of the protests during that time had to do with that.
2) Television. Back before all of the sports networks the local stations usually aired the local games only. In Alabama, Crimson Tide games were shown througout the state. So a lot of the locals couldn't even see Auburn games. So they couldn't really develop a following locally.
 
2007-11-24 01:43:57 PM
BTW, there's definitely going to be a split title this year.
 
2007-11-24 01:46:53 PM
Crocodile: One hit on that concussed quarterback, and it'll be back to Suckville for OU. And that's assuming they get past Oklahoma State.

I agree. They did a great job of protecting a frosh QB, nobody knew if he could take some real punishment. Besides, Oklahoma doesn't need to go to another BCS game. They've been embarrassed in the last few.
 
OXO
2007-11-24 01:47:01 PM
IAmRight: BTW, there's definitely going to be a split title this year.

Between which two Pac-10 teams?
 
2007-11-24 01:47:56 PM
Quel: This thread is useless until 8pm est tonight.

QFT!

/War Eagle!!!
//You mean this game, right? Right?
 
2007-11-24 01:48:51 PM
RobbieFal: Ohio State will somehow make the national title game over West Virginia if MU or KU wins the Big 12.

Do you really think the overlords of the NCAA will allow for a Kansas/West Virginia game for the national title?


Pretty much. And I'm gonna be pissed.

//go mountaineers
 
2007-11-24 01:50:46 PM
WoodyHayes: /thought Texas A&M was going to get slaughtered

I knew better. Franchione's last game, at Kyle Field, blahblahblah. Mack gets outcoached by a guy about to resign. It was too storybook. Even as Texas was charging back, you could tell it was just not supposed to happen.

I had to console myself with leftovers...
 
2007-11-24 01:51:37 PM
OXO: Between which two Pac-10 teams?

As if they'd give a split title to any non-USC Pac-10 team. We already saw about how they do that in 2001 with Oregon.
 
2007-11-24 01:52:18 PM
Trainspotr: I'm guessing neither of your adoptive teams are in the BigTen, though.

Right.

I really feel that a team has to do something that attracts you if your fandom is going to be genuine instead of the guy who wore the Bulls and Cowboys caps during the 90's, that sort of junk.

steamingpile: Figures, no big 10 fan has any room to biatch about over rated conferences, especially this year, WH should be forbidden to post here for stupidity.

Read above about fans of SEC schools being so defensive and how people such as yourself need to get over that inferiority complex. Tone it down just a little bit and you might be surprised at the results.

I'm not a Big Televen fan though, as I stated above.
 
2007-11-24 01:52:58 PM
PseudoNic: I knew better. Franchione's last game, at Kyle Field, blahblahblah. Mack gets outcoached by a guy about to resign. It was too storybook. Even as Texas was charging back, you could tell it was just not supposed to happen.

I had to console myself with leftovers...


plus when you know it's your last game, you can do all sorts of crazy stuff, like that fake field goal. if it turns out to be a boneheaded move, what are they gonna do, fire you again?
 
2007-11-24 01:53:12 PM
PseudoNic: I had to console myself with leftovers...

Hopefully it was fried turkey and not that baked turkey stuff.
 
2007-11-24 01:54:49 PM
IAmRight: Yeah, gee, I should be forced to not like teams that I like because, by god, I have to pick one team and like them no matter whether I enjoy watching other teams play or not, by golly!

Yeah, but a whole conference? Kind of ridiculous.

For the record, I did move around some and grew up going to Huskies games in Seattle, but I'm old now and Kansas is my alma mater so ultimately no one else really matters.
 
2007-11-24 01:55:53 PM
YouWinAgainGravity: if it turns out to be a boneheaded move, what are they gonna do, fire you again?

Exactly. When Texas was trying their fake and Fran got the timeout...you could see from his smile that the sun was shining on his dog ass. I think that is when my father stopped watching the game.

WoodyHayes: Hopefully it was fried turkey and not that baked turkey stuff.

Man, I'm Mexican...it was tamales.
 
2007-11-24 01:57:25 PM
I think that the SEC is consistently one of the strongest conferences in college football. The problem though is the fans that think the SEC is above the rest of college football the way NFL is above college football. I have seen SEC fans argue the following with a straight face:

1) The winner of the SEC championship game should automatically go to the BCS title game.
2) The first 10 rankings in the BCS poll should be the top 10 teams in overall standing in the SEC.
3) The lower teams in the SEC, such as Vanderbilt, Ole Miss, and Miss St would be undefeated in any other conference.
 
2007-11-24 02:00:27 PM
Kuta: GOB:
SEC v PAC10 = 0 1
SEC v BigEast= 1 2
SEC v ACC = 2 1
SEC v Big12 = 2 1
SEC v Big10 = no games played

SEC v other big conferences total: 5 wins 5 losses
Respectable, but not dominant.

Shall we review a bit deeper?

CAL beat TENN (Vols best in the SEC East?)


No, Georgia is the best team in the SEC East. UT did beat them, but that won't matter after Kentucky beats them today.

SOUTH FLORIDA beat AUBURN (Bulls beat traditional power?)
Auburn has sucked all year, and USF was ranked number 2 at one time. They were better than Auburn.

KENTUCKY beat LOUISVILLE (Quality win over quality rival)
WEST VIRGINIA beat Miss St (Power beats doormat)

LSU beats VIRGINIA TECH (Quality win over quality opponent)
FLORIDA ST beats ALABAMA (Quality win over quality opponent)
N CAROLINA beast S CAROLINA (WTF?)


Virginia Tech is a traditional power in the ACC. Alabama is not a quality opponent. They lost to UL-Lafayette. UNC did not beat USC. USC was up 21-0 at half time and looked ready to cruise, but they sucked in the second half and haven't stopped sucking since.

GEORGIA beats OKLAHOMA ST (Big time power beats mediocrity)
AUBURN beats KANSAS ST (Big time power beats mediocrity)
MISSOURI beats OLE MISS (Rising star beats doormat)


Auburn and power don't go together.
 
2007-11-24 02:06:27 PM
steveurkel
best of luck today. had fun cheering with you last week.

Thanks man, same here.

Well, Vanderbilt's first play from scrimmage is an interception.

*deep sigh*
 
2007-11-24 02:06:27 PM
WoodyHayes: Read above about fans of SEC schools being so defensive and how people such as yourself need to get over that inferiority complex. Tone it down just a little bit and you might be surprised at the results.

I'm not a Big Televen fan though, as I stated above.


Yes we know, you prefaced your slam on a better conference by saying you arent a fan of the big 10 just a sucky osu team this year. But yet if a big 10 team beats an sec team you will go on and on about how much the sec is over rated.

/straighten up your bias is showing
//the sec is not over rated
///especially when your big game was against a team that lost to a div II team
 
2007-11-24 02:08:18 PM
...aaaaaand Wake Forest fumbles it right back to Vandy.

THIS is gonna be a "good" game.
 
2007-11-24 02:08:37 PM
Solid State Vittles: Yeah, but a whole conference? Kind of ridiculous.

I have my pecking order within the conference, and I root for them in that order. I won't root for teams to beat ASU, however, no matter how much it would help the conference. And I'll never root for U of A to beat anyone except OOC teams to boost the conference stats. You can blame my dad, who would be similar to the tOSU/Mich people, where it's okay if U of A goes 11-1 and ASU goes 1-11, so long as ASU beats U of A for that win. I prefer them all to be good.

/besides, being a fan of any team besides USC is pretty much futile; rooting for USC when I was there gave me a chance to see what it's like to root for a team that was good and that one could actually BELIEVE would pull out a big game

Baron-Harkonnen: UT did beat them, but that won't matter after Kentucky beats them today.

Let's hold off on those predictions. (14-0 Tennessee right now, Tennessee driving again)
 
2007-11-24 02:09:49 PM
Solid State Vittles

Yeah, but a whole conference? Kind of ridiculous.

Honestly, I think it's a PAC 10 thing. I can sympathize with IamRight, because even when ASU is having an off year, I'll always root for another PAC 10 team (even Arizona in desperate times) to do well.

I think it stems from the fact that we on the West coast feel like the forgotten conference at times, regardless of how competitive we are in various sports. Most people East of the Mississippi have called it a night by the time we play our games, so it gives the whole conference an us vs. them mentality.

On the flip side, I'm from Texas and grew up a Longhorns fan before going to ASU, and it'll be a cold day in hell before you ever see me cheer for Oklahoma. PAC 10 rivals are just easier to cheer for than the Big 12.
 
2007-11-24 02:11:08 PM
steamingpile: Yes we know, you prefaced your slam on a better conference by saying you arent a fan of the big 10 just a sucky osu team this year. But yet if a big 10 team beats an sec team you will go on and on about how much the sec is over rated.

Yeah, I prefaced what I was saying by stating that I'm not a Big Televen fan which is the truth. Would you prefer that I lie or something?

/straighten up your bias is showing

Eh?

//the sec is not over rated

Why do you always act as if you have something to prove?

///especially when your big game was against a team that lost to a div II team

That would have been even funnier but no, it wasn't to a Division II team.

Relax man.
 
2007-11-24 02:15:36 PM
DevilsHorns J: PAC 10 rivals are just easier to cheer for than the Big 12.

Plus I've never had a bad experience at any of the Pac-10 stadiums I've been to, and for the most part, I see good sportsmanship on the field amongst everyone too. Sorry we just don't hate everyone in our conference over here. We save it for the rest of you teams. =P

/wore ASU stuff at OSU and USC and nothing bad happened to me at all
//well, except ASU losing both times
///so far the home team has won every CFB game I've been to
 
2007-11-24 02:17:29 PM
Wake Forest 0
Vanderbilt 3

7:41 (?) 1st
 
2007-11-24 02:18:09 PM
DevilsHorns J: On the flip side, I'm from Texas and grew up a Longhorns fan before going to ASU, and it'll be a cold day in hell before you ever see me cheer for Oklahoma.

My friends give me shiat because I'll root for TAMU in bowl games and out of conference games, but I won't root for ZeroU. I just can't do it. I like to see them lose, I like to see them struggle. I hate Texas Tech, but last week was a slice of fried gold for me. In their honor...I post this.

i40.photobucket.com
 
2007-11-24 02:19:13 PM
PseudoNic: In their honor...I post this.

And as much as I don't like most things Texas, I love that pic. Lemme know when they release a sex tape.
 
2007-11-24 02:21:13 PM
IAmRight
///so far the home team has won every CFB game I've been to

Then do us all a favor and stop going to the damn away games!!!
 
2007-11-24 02:21:33 PM
Fleet: Wake Forest 0
Vanderbilt 3

7:41 (?) 1st


they guaranteed a bowl if they win today?
 
2007-11-24 02:24:21 PM
PseudoNic: I hate Texas Tech, but last week was a slice of fried gold for me. In their honor...I post this.

You've probably seen this before but if not...

Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Raiders! (pops)

Hehe.
 
2007-11-24 02:27:14 PM
img80.imageshack.us

GO KU!!!
 
2007-11-24 02:27:16 PM
steveurkel

they guaranteed a bowl if they win today?

No, if they win, they'll be the 11th team in the conference that's bowl eligible. I think the SEC only has 8 bowl tie-ins? It's doubtful, but not impossible.

However, if they do win, it'll be the first time they've had a .500 season since... well, since I've been alive.
 
2007-11-24 02:27:22 PM
DevilsHorns J: Then do us all a favor and stop going to the damn away games!!!

well, c'mon, like they were going to win the game in 2004 at USC anyway. =P And the other game I was 11, so blame my dad =P

Besides, I never live around Tempe; the only game I got to go to was a ASU-U of A game because I'm usually there around thanksgiving because it's also around my grandma's birthday and she lives in Tempe (and is the one that worked for Frank Kush).
 
2007-11-24 02:29:51 PM
Fleet: However, if they do win, it'll be the first time they've had a .500 season since... well, since I've been alive.

wow, I thought they'd gone .500 with Cutler, and I was gonna make fun of you, but I guess they literally haven't been .500 since I've been alive (their last season at .500 or above was 1982).
 
2007-11-24 02:30:28 PM
WoodyHayes: You've probably seen this before but if not...

I hadn't seen that, but it is about average for the classy fans out on the plains. They beat TAMU a few years back and ripped down the goal posts. Not too out of the norm for a big upset. What was out of the norm was to try and impale TAMU fans with said goal posts. Classy!
 
2007-11-24 02:30:50 PM
TD UK

14-7 Tenn
 
2007-11-24 02:30:50 PM
YouWinAgainGravity: I think that the SEC is consistently one of the strongest conferences in college football. The problem though is the fans that think the SEC is above the rest of college football the way NFL is above college football. I have seen SEC fans argue the following with a straight face:

1) The winner of the SEC championship game should automatically go to the BCS title game.
2) The first 10 rankings in the BCS poll should be the top 10 teams in overall standing in the SEC.
3) The lower teams in the SEC, such as Vanderbilt, Ole Miss, and Miss St would be undefeated in any other conference.


I have never seen anyone argue like that at all, if they did they are complete morons but I do think that the bottom tier would at least above .500 in the pac 10.
 
2007-11-24 02:31:21 PM
Just keep underestimating Hawaii. It'll just make that bowl win oh-so-much sweeter.
 
2007-11-24 02:32:05 PM
TD 'Cats!

/woof
 
2007-11-24 02:32:24 PM
KernLead: Just keep underestimating Hawaii. It'll just make that bowl win oh-so-much sweeter.

Who are they going to beat?
 
2007-11-24 02:33:00 PM
Almost simulTDs with UK and UVA, actually
 
2007-11-24 02:34:57 PM
IAmRight

wow, I thought they'd gone .500 with Cutler, and I was gonna make fun of you, but I guess they literally haven't been .500 since I've been alive (their last season at .500 or above was 1982).


I thought it was '81. So technically you were right to think of making fun of me.

Kurt Page was even my P.E. coach my freshman year in high school.

I'm a horrible fan.
 
2007-11-24 02:35:04 PM
PseudoNic

Good god. I stand by everything I said before, but I am now a huge fan of the Red Raiders swim team. Now I need to go take a look at the Longhorns' swim team pics. Austin can't let Lubbock beat them out!
 
2007-11-24 02:35:15 PM
IAmRight: Who are they going to beat?

Oklahoma?
 
2007-11-24 02:35:38 PM
College football sucks. It's sloppy and unwatchable. It only exists as a proving ground for players who want to play real football, in the NFL. Which is what real football fans watch, not that sloppy college garbage.
 
2007-11-24 02:36:32 PM
WSUCanuck:
Learn to differentiate between posts. I had to actually read (Which is bad for me to do on Saturdays, it hurts my high) to make out what you're saying. Every team schedules cream puffs. Shut the fark up and learn how to work the internets better ass.

Woody Hayes
I had a feeling you were subby, hence the Troy Smith remark.

It pains me to no end that somehow Ohio State could be playing in the national championship again, and Florida won't be there to play them.

/Damn 3 loss seasons.
//Gator Fans shun 3 loss seasons... I guess we're kinda like Yankees fans (Also one, btw) in the fact that we expect the best each year.
 
2007-11-24 02:36:32 PM
No_One_Special: College football sucks. It's sloppy and unwatchable. It only exists as a proving ground for players who want to play real football, in the NFL. Which is what real football fans watch, not that sloppy college garbage.


you, sir, FAIL in every way possible. take your trolling elsewhere.
 
2007-11-24 02:37:29 PM
No_One_Special: College football sucks. It's sloppy and unwatchable. It only exists as a proving ground for players who want to play real football, in the NFL. Which is what real football fans watch, not that sloppy college garbage.

And I suppose Albert Haynesworth is a shining example of the professionalism in the NFL.
 
2007-11-24 02:39:36 PM
Third Day Mark: And I suppose Albert Haynesworth is a shining example of the professionalism in the NFL.

I think Andre Gurode would agree.
 
2007-11-24 02:40:02 PM
steveurkel: Fleet: Wake Forest 0
Vanderbilt 3

7:41 (?) 1st

they guaranteed a bowl if they win today?


They're eligible. Everyone and their cousin is becoming bowl eligible, you really need to go 7-5 if you want to get into a bowl game.
 
2007-11-24 02:40:30 PM
baorao: FiascoSauce: Oregon was fun to watch, but all you need to do is turn right to WVU. They are the original spread offense, and possibly MORE fun to watch. Also, i'm sure they have a hankerin to lay a beatdown on uconn and pitt because they know it will finally get them into the title game after being just outside the door the last 5 years.

WVU annoys me for some reason. I think its because I know Pat White is terrible at throwing the ball. Dixon was actually a pretty decent passer.


But he's not. He's a relatively efficient passer with a 70% completion percentage and 11 TDs for 3 picks. He's not Joe Montana, but he's not a *bad* passer by any means.
 
2007-11-24 02:40:43 PM
WoodyHayes: Yeah, I prefaced what I was saying by stating that I'm not a Big Televen fan which is the truth. Would you prefer that I lie or something?

Bullshiat, like you dont like to see other teams in your conference win, if you dont you are retarded since if your team beats them they look better.

Eh?

You have always been bitter about the SEC whipping OSU in every bowl game, just admit it.

Why do you always act as if you have something to prove?

I dont but its ironic that a big 10 fan wants to argue this point in a year when the conference sucks bad.

That would have been even funnier but no, it wasn't to a Division II team.

Relax man.


I-AA doesnt look much better does it and you knew what the fark I meant, the team you are most proud of beating lost to the very same teams all of the SEC gets made fun of for scheduling.

The football team competes in the Division I Football Championship Subdivision (formerly I-AA)
From:Link (new window)
 
2007-11-24 02:41:04 PM
PseudoNic: Oklahoma?

omg I'd laugh for years if they became the traditional "get beaten by teams from crappy conferences who get a token BCS nod" team.

Fleet: I thought it was '81. So technically you were right to think of making fun of me.

meh, I have the advantage of the internets. WoodyHayes pointed me to this site (pops), which is pretty damn awesome for looking stuff up historically.
 
2007-11-24 02:41:06 PM
PseudoNic: Third Day Mark: And I suppose Albert Haynesworth is a shining example of the professionalism in the NFL.

I think Andre Gurode would agree.


Heh. Good one.
 
2007-11-24 02:41:07 PM
Wake Forest 2
Vanderbilt 2

1:07 1st

...

Oh, wait... those are the turnovers already.

My mistake.
 
2007-11-24 02:41:24 PM
IAmRight: Who are they going to beat?

Who have you got? I'm gonna go out on a limb here a guess you haven't seen one UH game this year.
 
2007-11-24 02:41:39 PM
PseudoNic: IAmRight: Who are they going to beat?

Oklahoma?


No they wont, hawaii is not even as good as last years boise st team so keep dreaming
 
2007-11-24 02:42:06 PM
Third Day Mark: I had a feeling you were subby, hence the Troy Smith remark.

I'm the subby pretty much every week. I thought about taking yet another shot at Michigan and/or Les Miles but passed on it.

It pains me to no end that somehow Ohio State could be playing in the national championship again, and Florida won't be there to play them.

Rose Bowl, Rose Bowl, Rose Bowl. Considering the utter dearth of seniors on this team (only two starters are seniors), at the start of the season I thought Orlando would be a reasonable goal.
 
2007-11-24 02:42:32 PM
Ah, here it is. The REAL score is

Wake Forest 7
Vanderbilt 3

:30 1st
 
2007-11-24 02:42:40 PM
Third Day Mark: I guess we're kinda like Yankees fans (Also one, btw) in the fact that we expect the best each year.

That is any big time program. Three loss seasons are garbage.
 
2007-11-24 02:43:46 PM
unclejimbo827: But he's not. He's a relatively efficient passer with a 70% completion percentage and 11 TDs for 3 picks. He's not Joe Montana, but he's not a *bad* passer by any means.

It's still, as I said earlier in the season, Oregon minus the talent. Nowhere near as good as Oregon.
 
2007-11-24 02:44:55 PM
unclejimbo827: baorao: FiascoSauce: Oregon was fun to watch, but all you need to do is turn right to WVU. They are the original spread offense, and possibly MORE fun to watch. Also, i'm sure they have a hankerin to lay a beatdown on uconn and pitt because they know it will finally get them into the title game after being just outside the door the last 5 years.

WVU annoys me for some reason. I think its because I know Pat White is terrible at throwing the ball. Dixon was actually a pretty decent passer.

But he's not. He's a relatively efficient passer with a 70% completion percentage and 11 TDs for 3 picks. He's not Joe Montana, but he's not a *bad* passer by any means.


I would argue the whole "efficient =/= good" thing, but if he's only turned the ball over 3 times as a QB thats pretty respectable. He's not the age old, drop back and huck it 40-45 times a game QB. Neither is Tebow (Cheap pop), which is why people are reluctant to give him the Heisman as a Sophomore. The modern day QB is just as good outside the pocket and scrambling (Tebow, White, Dixon) as the old model of staying in the pocket and never, ever leaving.
 
2007-11-24 02:45:11 PM
steamingpile: so keep dreaming

That is what I was doing, and what a dream it was.

I can see it now, ZeroU gets railed by the Warriors. Colt Brennan is on the cover of NCAA '09.
 
2007-11-24 02:46:32 PM
KernLead: Who have you got? I'm gonna go out on a limb here a guess you haven't seen one UH game this year.

I've seen 3. Woo, struggling against mighty 4-7 San Jose State! Wow, that really scares me!

Beating Boise State was nice, but it comes with an asterisk of injuring half of Boise State's secondary...by the way, Hawaii is great at getting away with several cheap shots after the whistle. Seriously, they deserve to get left out just on that alone. Not a big surprise no one wants to play them in Hawaii, where they're allowed to do whatever they want.

And they barely held on to beat a mediocre in a crappy conference Fresno State team. Good job with that.
 
2007-11-24 02:46:34 PM
steamingpile: Bullshiat, like you dont like to see other teams in your conference win, if you dont you are retarded since if your team beats them they look better.

I couldn't care less about other teams in the Big Televen winning. One of these days you're going to have to understand that.

You have always been bitter about the SEC whipping OSU in every bowl game, just admit it.

No dude, relax.

I dont but its ironic that a big 10 fan wants to argue this point in a year when the conference sucks bad.

Yes you do, you always act as if you have something to prove to everybody. Week after week you do that, as if you desperately need the approval of others and you get belligerent if somebody doesn't agree with you 100%. If you would ever just relax your tone a wee bit you'd find people a lot more receptive than you think.
 
2007-11-24 02:46:41 PM
WoodyHayes: I thought about taking yet another shot at Michigan and/or Les Miles but passed on it.

That thing with the pictures in the LLLLLOYD thread was awesome.
 
2007-11-24 02:46:56 PM
Third Day Mark: unclejimbo827: baorao: FiascoSauce: Oregon was fun to watch, but all you need to do is turn right to WVU. They are the original spread offense, and possibly MORE fun to watch. Also, i'm sure they have a hankerin to lay a beatdown on uconn and pitt because they know it will finally get them into the title game after being just outside the door the last 5 years.

WVU annoys me for some reason. I think its because I know Pat White is terrible at throwing the ball. Dixon was actually a pretty decent passer.

But he's not. He's a relatively efficient passer with a 70% completion percentage and 11 TDs for 3 picks. He's not Joe Montana, but he's not a *bad* passer by any means.

I would argue the whole "efficient =/= good" thing, but if he's only turned the ball over 3 times as a QB thats pretty respectable. He's not the age old, drop back and huck it 40-45 times a game QB. Neither is Tebow (Cheap pop), which is why people are reluctant to give him the Heisman as a Sophomore. The modern day QB is just as good outside the pocket and scrambling (Tebow, White, Dixon) as the old model of staying in the pocket and never, ever leaving.


Oh no, I would not call him a "good" passer by any means. He's an average passer. I was just arguing against the idea that Pat White is 'terrible' at passing.
 
2007-11-24 02:48:25 PM
PseudoNic: Colt Brennan is on the cover of NCAA '09.

I hate that with the NCAA rules that you can't have a current guy on there. WTF is the point of having a guy who's not even in the game on the cover?
 
2007-11-24 02:48:46 PM
steamingpile: PseudoNic: IAmRight: Who are they going to beat?

Oklahoma?

No they wont, hawaii is not even as good as last years boise st team so keep dreaming


Really.

Because I've got a WAC Championship and some ungodly passing #'s to show you that would say otherwise.

Woody Hayes
Any shot at ye olde school up north is one i'm comfortable with. My mom's family is from Indiana so I secretly, in the deep cockles of my heart that I never talk about, follow and root for the mighty Hoosiers. They're basketball people though, so trying to get them to take interest in football is like pulling teeth without anesthesia.
 
2007-11-24 02:50:47 PM
IAmRight: I hate that with the NCAA rules that you can't have a current guy on there.

Have to pay they guy. Can't have endorsements while an NCAA athlete. Same thing happened with that kid from Colorado who was a pro snowboarder or some shiat.
 
2007-11-24 02:51:25 PM
A 16-yard punt?

16?

Really?
 
2007-11-24 02:51:52 PM
Third Day Mark: Because I've got a WAC Championship and some ungodly passing #'s to show you that would say otherwise.

Lemme know when those mean anything. You know who has even more passing yardage than Hawaii? Texas Tech, who is considered a mediocre at best team in a pretty crappy conference behind the top 3 teams.
 
2007-11-24 02:52:45 PM
Third Day Mark: Because I've got a WAC Championship and some ungodly passing #'s to show you that would say otherwise.

And I've got the 153rd toughest schedule that says they're not.
 
2007-11-24 02:53:22 PM
IAmRight: And they barely held on to beat a mediocre in a crappy conference Fresno State team. Good job with that.

Good point. They actually beat the teams they were supposed to beat. How's your team doing in that department.

I'm pretty sure other teams don't want to play Hawaii because they don't want to spend 10+ hours on a plane and suffer a five to six hour time differential to play some team that isn't a patsy. Then again, that didn't work out to well for Michigan this year.
 
2007-11-24 02:53:46 PM
PseudoNic: Have to pay they guy. Can't have endorsements while an NCAA athlete. Same thing happened with that kid from Colorado who was a pro snowboarder or some shiat.

Yeah, I know. But just don't put people on the cover or something. Come up with a cool logo.

And yeah, what the NCAA did to Jeremy Bloom was f*cked up.

/lmao @ announcers praising Ainge for throwing it away instead of taking the sack...a second later, he is called for intentional grounding on the play
 
2007-11-24 02:53:51 PM
unclejimbo827:
Oh no, I would not call him a "good" passer by any means. He's an average passer. I was just arguing against the idea that Pat White is 'terrible' at passing.

However if you can get an average passer, with above average legs and running skills at the helm, you've got a fighting chance always. Which is why WV is so successful.
 
2007-11-24 02:54:48 PM
PseudoNic: That thing with the pictures in the LLLLLOYD thread was awesome.

Hehe, danke. That may go down as the crowning achievement in my life and I'm perfectly content with that. :)
 
2007-11-24 02:54:57 PM
IAmRight
I hate that with the NCAA rules that you can't have a current guy on there. WTF is the point of having a guy who's not even in the game on the cover?

You make a good point, but look at it this way- would Jared Zabransky ever have a shot at being on the cover before last season? Not at all, and that would just deprive me of the happiness in knowing that every OU fan dies a little inside every time they pick up that game and take the disc out of it's case.
 
2007-11-24 02:55:29 PM
IAmRight: Third Day Mark: Because I've got a WAC Championship and some ungodly passing #'s to show you that would say otherwise.

Lemme know when those mean anything. You know who has even more passing yardage than Hawaii? Texas Tech, who is considered a mediocre at best team in a pretty crappy conference behind the top 3 teams.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't we have this discussion last year when Boise St was selected to play Oklahoma?

How'd that game turn out by the way?

/Oh yeah... almost forgot.
//"Greatest Game I've Ever Seen" was how alot described it.
///WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HAWAII FINISHED BETTER THAN MY TEAM WAHHHHHHH
 
2007-11-24 02:55:36 PM
IAmRight: You know who has even more passing yardage than Hawaii? Texas Tech

That should be a bowl game. 1400yds of offense, 189 pts scored, game lasts 73 hrs. Fun times.

Plus, from what I hear about the fans in HI, it should be a black hole of asshole fans.
 
2007-11-24 02:55:46 PM
KernLead: I'm pretty sure other teams don't want to play Hawaii because they don't want to spend 10+ hours on a plane and suffer a five to six hour time differential to play some team that isn't a patsy.

I dunno, they claim USC didn't want to play them, yet USC doesn't seem to ever have any problem with Hawaii. Hawaii seems to think they are worthy of having teams from real conferences come play them like everyone else is a I-AA school and they're in the SEC. HAWAII needs to go play someone at their place. Sack up, Hawaii.
 
2007-11-24 02:57:13 PM
Fleet: A 16-yard punt?

16?

Really?


You Poor, Poor bastard.

I actually look forward to the Florida / Vandy game each year. I keep thinking "I wish Vandy would kick their ass so Florida can be fired up for FSU"
 
2007-11-24 02:59:43 PM
Third Day Mark: Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't we have this discussion last year when Boise St was selected to play Oklahoma?

No, I liked Boise State in that game and I hate Oklahoma and would never pick them. I wasn't sure they'd actually win, but I expected Boise State to roll with them. Even as a Boise State supporter, I still wouldn't say they deserved a shot at the national title, though. I'm pretty sure they're happy with a BCS game win.

Third Day Mark: //"Greatest Game I've Ever Seen" was how alot described it.

Yeah, there's a reason I downloaded it and I still have it saved to my xbox hard drive. I love seeing Bob Stoops' soul taken from him and crushed. I love seeing the Oklahoma fans get all excited, KNOWING that they're going to get decimated.

/dumb file cuts off the proposal, though
 
2007-11-24 03:00:27 PM
Are these guys on crack? That was a botched punt.
 
2007-11-24 03:01:26 PM
Third Day Mark: ///WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HAWAII FINISHED BETTER THAN MY TEAM WAHHHHHHH

Hawaii's not done, they still have to play a team that beat Boise State by more than Hawaii did in tied-for-last-place-in-the-Pac-10 Washington.

But no, that also makes Hawaii look more impressive.
 
2007-11-24 03:01:26 PM
IAmRight: Third Day Mark: Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't we have this discussion last year when Boise St was selected to play Oklahoma?

No, I liked Boise State in that game and I hate Oklahoma and would never pick them. I wasn't sure they'd actually win, but I expected Boise State to roll with them. Even as a Boise State supporter, I still wouldn't say they deserved a shot at the national title, though. I'm pretty sure they're happy with a BCS game win.

Third Day Mark: //"Greatest Game I've Ever Seen" was how alot described it.

Yeah, there's a reason I downloaded it and I still have it saved to my xbox hard drive. I love seeing Bob Stoops' soul taken from him and crushed. I love seeing the Oklahoma fans get all excited, KNOWING that they're going to get decimated.

/dumb file cuts off the proposal, though


Oh, don't get me wrong. They shouldn't be playing for a national championship. But Don't poo-poo at the WAC when their representative last year shoved it in Stoops' face.
 
2007-11-24 03:03:50 PM
IAmRight: I love seeing Bob Stoops' soul taken from him and crushed. I love seeing the Oklahoma fans get all excited, KNOWING that they're going to get decimated.

You could see it in the fans, too. After the tying score and the Zabranksi pick six, they were pumped. When Boise forced OT it was like you told all of them the US was giving back their state to the Indians.

I have to go find that on YouTube now.
 
2007-11-24 03:05:06 PM
imagecache2.allposters.com

/we're still gonna get whupped on
 
2007-11-24 03:06:20 PM
Third Day Mark: Oh, don't get me wrong. They shouldn't be playing for a national championship. But Don't poo-poo at the WAC when their representative last year shoved it in Stoops' face.

I'm not mocking the WAC, I'm mocking a Hawaii team that had TWO I-AA teams on their OOC schedule. Not even good I-AA teams, but I-AA teams with losing records. Their schedule so far has a 44-78 record. They gotta love Boise State; without them it's 34-76, more than twice as many losses as wins.
 
2007-11-24 03:08:30 PM
PseudoNic
IAmRight


Same here, I've got it on my DVR. I saved that game hoping for an upset, and even had to save the entire next episode of a sitcom rerun because it ran so long, but it's like my prized possession for recorded TV. If there were ever a fire at my house, I'm pretty sure some wedding albums would be lost in favor of the DVR for that game alone.
 
2007-11-24 03:08:31 PM
I just came here to say:
Gamecocks, please stop the arterial bleeding and salvage this season by pwning Clemsux

GO COCKS

CLUCK FEMSON
 
2007-11-24 03:08:39 PM
PseudoNic: You could see it in the fans, too. After the tying score and the Zabranksi pick six, they were pumped. When Boise forced OT it was like you told all of them the US was giving back their state to the Indians.

lmao yeah. The weird part was, even after the pick six, I still felt a weird feeling that Boise State was still going to pull it off. That was the reason the '05 Rose Bowl was so crushing, with that USC team over the past couple years, I ALWAYS felt that they were going to pull it off, and seeing them not do it was just bizarre.

/with Booty I expect them to fail in any come-from-behind situation
 
2007-11-24 03:10:48 PM
DevilsHorns J: DVR for that game alone.

dude, just as i found it on the internet, I'm sure you can find it as well =P
 
2007-11-24 03:12:48 PM
24-7 Tennessee...god I hope they win the SEC, that would be hilarious.
 
2007-11-24 03:14:10 PM
DevilsHorns J: it's like my prized possession for recorded TV.

My sister's TiVo still has my brother and I acting like jackasses at the 2005 Rose Bowl. Jay Leno sent a camera crew out there to check out the fans. My brother snuck an "OU SUCKS: koozie into almost every shot.

IAmRight: hat was the reason the '05 Rose Bowl was so crushing, with that USC team over the past couple years, I ALWAYS felt that they were going to pull it off

See, watching Vince in the years before that made me feel the same thing.
 
2007-11-24 03:15:20 PM
Wake Forest 14
Vanderbilt 3

I think UT sucked the life out of the 'Dores.
 
2007-11-24 03:15:31 PM
unclejimbo827: But he's not. He's a relatively efficient passer with a 70% completion percentage and 11 TDs for 3 picks. He's not Joe Montana, but he's not a *bad* passer by any means.

yeah he can throw the ball in some situations (with a lead), but he's not beating anyone with his arm and that is what annoys me. fwiw, I don't particularly enjoy watching Arkansas for similar (albeit opposite) reasons. basically I want my RBs to run and my QBs to throw.
 
2007-11-24 03:16:44 PM
Someone should let Kentucky know that the hook-and-lateral works better if you don't run directly out of bounds.

/but they get 15 extra yards on a late hit
 
2007-11-24 03:18:18 PM
WoodyHayes: I couldn't care less about other teams in the Big Televen winning. One of these days you're going to have to understand that.

Then you are admitting you are an idiot, if almost every other team in the big 10 goes 6-5, 5-5 OSU would never get to another NC game even if they go 11-0. SOS wouldnt allow it, the more wins your opponents have the better you look when you beat them.

No dude, relax.

Yes you do, you always act as if you have something to prove to everybody. Week after week you do that, as if you desperately need the approval of others and you get belligerent if somebody doesn't agree with you 100%. If you would ever just relax your tone a wee bit you'd find people a lot more receptive than you think.


I can usually post with most of these people fine but most big 10 fans(OSU mainly) and the pac 10 seems to just want to talk shiat with nothing backing it up. The pac 10 plays crap wac teams then chooses to biatch at the SEC for not playing OOC BCS teams when most of the div I-aa teams would beat wac teams. I can argue with people if they are objective but most big 10 fans just refuse to admit some years they suck. Hell the SEC was down a few years ago and are slightly down this year but the main thing is that they have young teams and next year will be worse to try and make it to the top of the SEC.
 
2007-11-24 03:18:23 PM
Good work, Virginia, 5 yard pass on 4th and 12. Just chuck it!
 
2007-11-24 03:19:39 PM
baorao: I don't particularly enjoy watching Arkansas for similar (albeit opposite) reasons.

Oh, but that Darren McFadden is fun to watch.

"He's a football player!"
"Yeah!"
 
2007-11-24 03:20:55 PM
IAmRight
dude, just as i found it on the internet, I'm sure you can find it as well =P

It's the principal behind it. Downloading it later just doesn't have the same authenticity. Just like pulling out old tapes to watch games even though they're easily accessible in DVD just adds the flavor to the whole thing.

/it makes sense to me, damn it. Just play along.
 
2007-11-24 03:21:05 PM
IAmRight: 24-7 Tennessee...god I hope they win the SEC, that would be hilarious.

Why cause this mature team would now kill the team in the sugar bowl?

I hate UT and fulmer but this not the same team cal played at the beginning of the season.
 
2007-11-24 03:24:05 PM
steamingpile: I hate UT and fulmer but this not the same team cal played at the beginning of the season.

Yeah, they might only give up 31pts this time.
 
2007-11-24 03:25:08 PM
steamingpile: The pac 10 plays crap wac teams then chooses to biatch at the SEC for not playing OOC BCS teams

The teams in the Pac-10 that expect to contend for national titles schedule OOC appropriately. The teams that expect to need all the wins they can get to get bowl eligible schedule weaker teams. The weakest teams schedule tough teams because the tough teams want to face the weak ones (see: Washington and Stanford regularly having SOSs in the top 10).

USC's looked weak this year with Idaho, but that was scheduled because one of Carroll's assistants became the HC there and it was supposed to get them some visibility. of course, by the time it was to be played, that guy wasn't working there anymore and USC tried to get out of it but Idaho wouldn't have it.

Anyway, since 1992 (when the SEC added SC, making it the conference it is today), the Pac-10 is 10-9 against the SEC. That's all I need to say about that.
 
2007-11-24 03:25:16 PM
steamingpile: Then you are admitting you are an idiot,...

Read what I said above about you being belligerent with those who do not agree with you 100%, relax.

I can argue with people if they are objective...

I'm not too sure that you're in an apt position to judge the objectivity of anybody here.
 
2007-11-24 03:26:10 PM
IAmRight: 24-7 Tennessee...god I hope they win the SEC, that would be hilarious.

My SEC solidarity ends with UT.

I hope they get decimated in whichever bowl game they go to.
 
2007-11-24 03:27:04 PM
PseudoNic: Yeah, they might only give up 31pts this time.

Well, it's now more because Cal isn't the team they were before, Longshore's injury really screwed 'em.

/if every QB in the conference except the crappy (inconsistent) ones at WSU and U of A hadn't gone down this year, that would've been nice.
 
2007-11-24 03:29:16 PM
Nice cheap shot on a kneeling QB. Stay classy, UVA.

Of course, every UVA grad I know is an insufferable asshole - even if they were awesome people going in - so that might be as classy as they get. It's like UVA has Advanced Douchebaggery 101 as a required course.
 
2007-11-24 03:29:46 PM
Army - Navy next week...

Go Army, beat Navy!
 
2007-11-24 03:31:01 PM
Fleet: I hope they get decimated in whichever bowl game they go to.

oh, I hope for that too. I just want them to be the SEC champ that gets decimated in a bowl game. =P

baorao: fwiw, I don't particularly enjoy watching Arkansas for similar (albeit opposite) reasons. basically I want my RBs to run and my QBs to throw.

when it's working right, Arkansas' offense is fun to watch. When it isn't? Not so much.

/was Les Miles the one who was pronouncing "Arkansas" intentionally improperly?
//if so, that makes it even funnier
 
2007-11-24 03:31:15 PM
fark yeah, ESPN2 is giving me the UGA - GT game. Press record, off to get XX
 
2007-11-24 03:32:01 PM
WoodyHayes: Go Army, beat lose to Navy!

FTFY

/and corrected for likely accuracy
 
2007-11-24 03:32:44 PM
IAmRight: when it's working right, Arkansas' offense is fun to watch. When it isn't? Not so much.

Same thing with Nevada's Pistol and Navy's flexbone. When their offenses are working they are some beautiful things to watch.
 
2007-11-24 03:32:45 PM
It is always great when the Hokies beat UVA, especially when ESPN's Erin Andrews is roaming the sidelines.

But it is unforgivable for Andre Ware and Chris Pasch to spend 66% giving fellatio to Chris Long.

/stay uppity UVA fans! lol
 
2007-11-24 03:33:19 PM
IAmRight: FTFY

/and corrected for likely accuracy


Yup. :(
 
2007-11-24 03:33:28 PM
At least we agree on Alex Brink, IAmRight.
 
2007-11-24 03:33:33 PM
so long uva, thanks for playing
 
2007-11-24 03:34:37 PM
wait...wait...wtf?

Why am I seeing Notre Dame/Stanford on ESPN? And why is it not on NBC because they're showing Grambling State vs. Southern?

At least I have Oregon/UCLA, although that game is much less interesting now that Dixon's out.
 
2007-11-24 03:34:42 PM
bel4sucks: fark yeah, ESPN2 is giving me the UGA - GT game.

I get the ZeroU/OSU game. Let's go Orange Aggies!
 
2007-11-24 03:35:16 PM
I'm surprised no one here has even mentioned the Utah/ BYU game going on right now. Sure, it consists of 2 teams that suck and no one outside of the local LDS ward cares about, but that is one bitter-as-hell rivalry. It's pretty much the only game I ever see the local Mormons get pumped up about.

Well, at least as pumped-up as Mormons can get, which on a scale from 1-10 is around a .4.
 
2007-11-24 03:36:03 PM
GratuityIncluded: It is always great when the Hokies beat UVA, especially when ESPN's Erin Andrews is roaming the sidelines.

I wish Erin Andrews would give me some one-on-one "interview time."

/still carries a flame for Jill Arrington though
 
2007-11-24 03:38:27 PM
KernLead: At least we agree on Alex Brink, IAmRight.

Of course, when a guy wins nothing, then we don't like him. I mean, WSU hasn't ever really been consistently good, but c'mon, we had three consecutive 10 win seasons before him and always go to a bowl game every 3-4 years at LEAST!
 
2007-11-24 03:38:54 PM
IAmRight: Grambling State vs. Southern?

Bayou Classic, baby! Halftime rules!
 
2007-11-24 03:39:58 PM
Oh crap, I just found out I will love UConn!

/their QB went to the JC I was picking up credits at while I was in the Marines!
 
2007-11-24 03:41:01 PM
Looks like UConn's sphincter is a little bit tight today.
 
2007-11-24 03:41:04 PM
PseudoNic: Bayou Classic, baby! Halftime rules!

dammit, put that crap on regionally, put your crappy ND game on there, and get a real game on ESPN.
 
2007-11-24 03:41:11 PM
IAmRight: Anyway, since 1992 (when the SEC added SC, making it the conference it is today), the Pac-10 is 10-9 against the SEC. That's all I need to say about that.

Of course you want to use that since it proves your point but according to what I saw the SEC was leading 10-9 since 1990 so I dont know which is right and I dont care to look it up.

Overall the SEC leads the Pac-10 59-36-5, the pac 10 is on the rise over all, not just USC but I will use a quote by a former respected head coack now in the SEC to help along my theory about what would happen if pac 10 played sec defenses all year.

"I think the biggest difference (from the Pac-10) is the talent on the defensive side of the ball, week in and week out," said Kentucky coach Rich Brooks, who coached at Oregon from 1977-94. "There are bigger, faster guys on defense in this league. The depth of the defensive talent is bigger in the SEC than the Pac-10."
 
2007-11-24 03:44:29 PM
The Big Ten slaughters the SEC.

Of the 11 members of the Big Ten Conference--University of Illinois, University of Minnesota, Northwestern University, Purdue University, University of Wisconsin, Indiana University, University of Iowa, Ohio State University, University of Michigan, Michigan State University, Pennsylvania State University--all 11 make our top 75. Of the 12 members of the Southeastern Conference--we'll not list them all--only Vanderbilt University and the University of Florida even crack it. Football is fine for schools, as long as they're Midwestern.


http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2006/0609.collegeguide.html (pops)

SEC school = moran factory
 
2007-11-24 03:44:59 PM
steamingpile: "I think the biggest difference (from the Pac-10) is the talent on the defensive side of the ball, week in and week out," said Kentucky coach Rich Brooks, who coached at Oregon from 1977-94. "There are bigger, faster guys on defense in this league. The depth of the defensive talent is bigger in the SEC than the Pac-10."

Well, the Pac-10's gotten a bit better since '94, you have to consider.

steamingpile: Of course you want to use that since it proves your point but according to what I saw the SEC was leading 10-9 since 1990 so I dont know which is right and I dont care to look it up.

it's probably 10-10 now since 1990, the site I use (already linked earlier in the thread) that lists all games only goes through last year and says 9-9, but Cal beat Tennessee earlier this year so I added that myself.

In any case, it's still not a dominance, and I use 1992 because it's fair, since it's the year that both conferences were set up as they presently are. (at least in which teams are in each)
 
2007-11-24 03:45:48 PM
WoodyHayes: Read what I said above about you being belligerent with those who do not agree with you 100%, relax.

I'm not too sure that you're in an apt position to judge the objectivity of anybody here.


I am not saying you have to agree with me, what Im saying is that if you dont agree you are an idiot since if every other team is shiatty then OSU would never get in a decent bowl game, evar. Its the way the computers work it now so that is why it was a stupid point, I want every SEC team to win if UGA plays them it makes them look better. Well, not florida they can DIAF and if they could take spurrier with them that would be great.

And Im very objective, the pac 10 is way up in comparison to the 90s and the ACC is way down in the same period, I never thought that would happen. I also think the big east is starting to make waves, mainly because some schools are taking players that couldnt even meet the requirements for SEC schools.
 
2007-11-24 03:46:03 PM
IAmRight: Of course, when a guy wins nothing, then we don't like him.

I have always maintained the Wazzu WR corp has made Brink look better than he is. It seems to take him a half to get warmed up and stop throwing balls behind receivers. I've seen Bumpus forced into making way too many circus catches this year.

As for the Cougs... what can you do? It's a biatch recruiting out in that neck of the woods.
 
2007-11-24 03:46:21 PM
Apik0r0s: SEC school = moran factory

Don't use academics to argue about football.

UConn TD!
 
2007-11-24 03:47:15 PM
Central Florida/UTEP Over 34 (2nd half)
Georgia Tech +4

Hawaii last night was huge, only wish I didn't sleep through all the morning games.
 
2007-11-24 03:48:10 PM
KernLead: As for the Cougs... what can you do? It's a biatch recruiting out in that neck of the woods.

That's true, if I hadn't been raised mostly in eastern Washington, I'd never want to live here/there.

/OU scores :/
 
2007-11-24 03:48:57 PM
Another sartorial mystery from the Ducks. I haven't seen that particular color on them before.

Stewart didn't start but he's in on the second possession and Dixon is marshalling the forces from the sidelines--hope they can keep it together today.

Ugh, was that Stewart who just got smacked? Not looking good.
 
2007-11-24 03:51:36 PM
IAmRight: it's probably 10-10 now since 1990, the site I use (already linked earlier in the thread) that lists all games only goes through last year and says 9-9, but Cal beat Tennessee earlier this year so I added that myself.

In any case, it's still not a dominance, and I use 1992 because it's fair, since it's the year that both conferences were set up as they presently are. (at least in which teams are in each)


Oh I never stated the SEC is dominate over the pac 10 but judging them from the games played with Mississippi(a horrible team-2 wins) and Alabama(2 wins against teams that went 3-8, 7-5) is not really getting the best of the group.

But over all the SEC has been to more bowls, has more wins, and the best winning percentage of any college except the ACC.
 
2007-11-24 03:54:57 PM
Damn, Dennis Dixon's dictation steamingpile: Oh I never stated the SEC is dominate over the pac 10 but judging them from the games played with Mississippi(a horrible team-2 wins) and Alabama(2 wins against teams that went 3-8, 7-5) is not really getting the best of the group.

I'd say the same about Arizona and Washington State =P (and the fact that Arizona State gave LSU the Hurricane Katrina game, they felt bad after killing LSU for the first half, not to mention the Oregon State 3 missed XPs, 1 point loss game)
 
2007-11-24 03:55:09 PM
steamingpile: Im saying is that if you dont agree you are an idiot...

Again, read above about being belligerent with those who don't agree with you 100%. You'll notice that I haven't substantively gone into any issues, mainly because there is no point in doing so because of a pattern of behavior with you.

I'm not quite sure what your issue is but week after week you're like a puppy desperately seeking the approval of others due to some apparent inferiority complex and subsequently belittling those who don't see everything your way. It is befuddling to see the way you approach others as if you expect them to be swayed to your side if you insult them enough times while pounding your chest. Don't take anything somebody says as an affront to the SEC, you really do need to learn to relax and not take everything so personally.
 
2007-11-24 03:58:21 PM
whoops, I forgot to finish my sentence that I couldn't come up with more D's for.

but yeah, Dennis Dixon talks SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
 
2007-11-24 03:58:41 PM
Wake Forest 21
Vanderbilt 3

Around 14:00, 3rd
 
2007-11-24 03:59:53 PM
when I see Connecticut and Kansas I just hope that somehow, somewhere their athletic department can find their own version of Gordon Bombay or Danny O'Shea to spring for new uniforms before the big game. Seriously, I know football is second fiddle at those schools but it wouldn't take much to have a decent looking uniform and helmet. You don't need Phil Knight to be amongst your alumni to get it done.
 
2007-11-24 04:01:35 PM
IAmRight: Solid State Vittles: There's someone who frequents college football threads here who seems to think that "TheyAreRight" about everything. Hopefully he's taking notes.

Yeah, gee, I should be forced to not like teams that I like because, by god, I have to pick one team and like them no matter whether I enjoy watching other teams play or not, by golly!

/sorry some of us move around a lot as a kid and get to experience several different places, all of which left good memories for us.


Save your excuses for the judge, mister. You're under arrest for violations of fan law. Are you going to come along quietly, or do I have to get the taser?

/the pokey is full of bandwagon jumpers and pink hats. My advice to you is to beat one up the first day.
//My profile says I like the Chiefs AND the Panthers? Crap.
 
2007-11-24 04:02:00 PM
Oklahoma apparently wants to play in the Big 12 title game, 14-0
 
2007-11-24 04:02:44 PM
WoodyHayes: Again, read above about being belligerent with those who don't agree with you 100%. You'll notice that I haven't substantively gone into any issues, mainly because there is no point in doing so because of a pattern of behavior with you.

Yes and again you fail to see the point of if all your opponents suck then you will fall in the rankings, its just the way it has been since the BCS. You cant just be in the big 10, sec, big 12 and make it to a great bowl, you have to have SOS to keep you ranked and you say you want everyone else to suck other than OSU. Its an idiotic statement and one that others here wont make, even pac 10 teams cheer for other pac 10 teams to do well.

Its a valid point, just one you cant bring yourself to realize.
 
2007-11-24 04:02:46 PM
who still thinks pat white is a bad passer? he might not throw 50 yard bombs, but he has great accuracy at short to medium range, and when he does throw it, it's usually on the mark.

no worse than dennis dixon, probably a little better. and a better runner too. besides that, steve slaton, owen schmitt, and noel devine are the best backfield in the nation easily.

i'm not even a WVU fan!
 
2007-11-24 04:03:13 PM
KushanMadman: //My profile says I like the Chiefs AND the Panthers? Crap.

When the Panthers came into the league I chose them as a team I would like so I could say that I've rooted for a team ever since they first existed.

That didn't last very long. I don't like East coast teams.
 
2007-11-24 04:03:16 PM
Wake Forest 28
Vanderbilt 3

12:52 3rd

Here's to another 5-7 season.
 
2007-11-24 04:04:08 PM
I'd just like to say that espn carrying ND/Stanford and not WVU/UConn is BULLshiat.

That is all
 
2007-11-24 04:04:38 PM
FiascoSauce: who still thinks pat white is a bad passer? he might not throw 50 yard bombs, but he has great accuracy at short to medium range, and when he does throw it, it's usually on the mark.

lol that I should see this after he overthrows a guy by 30 yards

/of course, UConn fumbles the punt
//maybe he should claim he called for a fair catch
 
2007-11-24 04:05:29 PM
I know they've already played this season, but I think Ole Miss and Vandy should have an end-of-year game to battle for 11th place in the SEC. I mean, every other team is probably going to a bowl game, it would suck to have them left out.
 
2007-11-24 04:05:31 PM
VinnyV: I'd just like to say that espn carrying ND/Stanford and not WVU/UConn is BULLshiat.

It's on ESPN2 for me

/free TD for WVU off the turnover
//way to fark your defense, returner guy
 
2007-11-24 04:05:32 PM
FiascoSauce: who still thinks pat white is a bad passer?

I do. And I will right up until I see him throw 30 times in a game.
 
2007-11-24 04:05:33 PM
and he throws a perfect td pass.
 
2007-11-24 04:07:44 PM
IAmRight: VinnyV: I'd just like to say that espn carrying ND/Stanford and not WVU/UConn is BULLshiat.

It's on ESPN2 for me

/free TD for WVU off the turnover
//way to fark your defense, returner guy


Blacked out here or something

/Charlotte
//why?
 
2007-11-24 04:07:55 PM
Whoooo, the Ducks got past the 50!

For a couple of seconds.
 
2007-11-24 04:08:20 PM
so you're saying anyone who averages less than 30 completions a game is a bad passer?

that would mean brian brohm, colt brennan, andre woodson, tim tebow are all bad passers too.
 
2007-11-24 04:11:52 PM
KernLead: Just keep underestimating Hawaii. It'll just make that bowl win oh-so-much sweeter.


If Hawaii plays a team like Georgia they are going to be embarassed in front of the whole country. So I'll keep underestimating Hawaii until they start playing a real schedule, until then they haven't done anything to earn respect, or a BCS bid.
 
2007-11-24 04:12:24 PM
if you mean attempts, that still means sam bradford, tim tebow, dennis dixon, rudy carpenter, todd boeckman, zac robinson, ben mauk, sean glennon, tyler donovan, chris turner, riley skinner, matt stafford, tyler lorenzen (uconn), and CHAD HENNE are all bad passers too. none of them average 30 attempts a game. look it up.

http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2007&div=4&rpt=IA_playerpasseff&sit e=org
 
2007-11-24 04:12:37 PM
FiascoSauce: so you're saying anyone who averages less than 30 completions a game is a bad passer?

30 PASSES.

I'm sure he wanted to say 20 but White's actually managed to break that attempt amount TWICE this season (well, one time was 20 exactly).

If he's a good passer, then he should be passing, right?
 
2007-11-24 04:13:32 PM
Man, I get to choose between my abysmal ND team and my struggling Oregon team! I think I will select the third option: drinking.
 
2007-11-24 04:14:02 PM
FiascoSauce: if you mean attempts, that still means sam bradford, tim tebow, dennis dixon, rudy carpenter, todd boeckman, zac robinson, ben mauk, sean glennon, tyler donovan, chris turner, riley skinner, matt stafford, tyler lorenzen (uconn), and CHAD HENNE are all bad passers too. none of them average 30 attempts a game. look it up.

they don't average it, but even the running QBs on the list have 100 more attempts than White.

And half those QBs ARE bad passers.
 
2007-11-24 04:14:11 PM
FiascoSauce: so you're saying anyone who averages less than 30 completions a game is a bad passer?

that would mean brian brohm, colt brennan, andre woodson, tim tebow are all bad passers too.


30 completions? no. but I will never say that someone is good passer when he has a career average under 15 attempts per game.
 
2007-11-24 04:15:03 PM
VinnyV: I'd just like to say that espn carrying ND/Stanford and not WVU/UConn is BULLshiat.

That is all


wow, i can't believe that

i'm so glad i didn't go home for thanksgiving - i'd be bout as pissed as you could be if this game were blacked out for me...
 
2007-11-24 04:16:36 PM
oregon's boned
 
2007-11-24 04:17:14 PM
ok, so after taking back what you said earlier, you are saying that CAREER attempt average is more important than completion percentage, int percentage, yards per attempt, td percentage, and a top 10 qb rating?
 
2007-11-24 04:18:22 PM
baorao: but I will never say that someone is good passer when he has a career average under 15 attempts per game.

But this year he's averaging 15.8! they're going passing CRAZY!

Hell, he almost hit 200 yards once!
 
2007-11-24 04:18:43 PM
IAmRight: Don't use academics to argue about football.

It's perfectly reasonable , especially when you consider that SEC teams have averaged over 25 scholarship recruits per year since 2002, when there are only 85 D-1A scholarships to be had per team.
 
2007-11-24 04:18:59 PM
WTF @ 70 yard punt IN THE AIR
 
2007-11-24 04:20:39 PM
FiascoSauce: ok, so after taking back what you said earlier, you are saying that CAREER attempt average is more important than completion percentage, int percentage, yards per attempt, td percentage, and a top 10 qb rating?

It is when you average less than 15 attempts per game. Small sample sizes, and all that.
 
2007-11-24 04:23:20 PM
FiascoSauce: ok, so after taking back what you said earlier, you are saying that CAREER attempt average is more important than completion percentage, int percentage, yards per attempt, td percentage, and a top 10 qb rating?

I don't believe I took back anything. I am just saying that completing 70% of 15 attempts per game (10.5 passes) when you're throwing WR screens and one-receiver bootlegs does not make someone a good passer. Stats lie. Its no coincidence that his season high passing stats have twice come against the likes of East Carolina.
 
2007-11-24 04:23:25 PM
he actually averages 17.4 attempts/game this year. he also averages 14.7 rushing carries/game. does that mean pat white is a bad passer and a bad runner?
 
2007-11-24 04:23:32 PM
IAmRight: /of course, UConn fumbles the punt
//maybe he should claim he called for a fair catch


Nice call back
 
2007-11-24 04:23:48 PM
VinnyV: I'd just like to say that espn carrying ND/Stanford and not WVU/UConn is BULLshiat.

That is all


That game is either on CBS or ABC (it's probably ABC) for me man, you might check there?
 
2007-11-24 04:24:02 PM
I went to UF but it's hard to say LSU, if they win the SEC (especially if it's over top-5 UGA, which doesn't look like it's going to happen b/c Phil Fulmer-shiate has found a way to eff it all up) doesn't deserve to play for the NC.

They played six top-17 teams this season, losing to only one, and a win over UGA (even UT) would mean six wins over top 17-teams. They did lose to unranked Arkansas but Ark is 8-4 with one of the top Heisman hopefuls in the country. The other loss was to then-17th-ranked Kentucky who has their own Heisman hopeful QB and beat them on 3 OTs (as did Arkansas) in Kentucky.

If LSU has a weakness, it's that you can beat them in 3 OTs because they can't convert a two-point conversion. We've found it! Their Achilles' heel!

It pains me to root for LSU but I still think they'd destroy WVU (who will have played four top-25 teams...powerhouses the likes of Rutgers, UConn and Cincinnati -- and lost to one...USF??!!) The Tigers would crush Kansas (only ONE game against a top 25 team, a #24, and/or Mizzou (two wins against bottom of the top-25 and a loss to #6 OU) and Ohio State as well. Hell, I'd LOVE to see LSU/Ohio State for the title. Moreso, If OSU beat LSU I'd start to believe the SEC isn't all that.

I also agree with other sentiments that a West Virginia/Kansas or WVU/Mizzou NC game would EAT ASSSSSS! Who the HELL would watch that crap-fest? Jeez.

/GO GATORS
//GO SEC!!!
///GO TO HELL WHACK-TEN, you SUCK!
////And Lord? Please let Florida play USC somehow in a bowl game so they can see how gawd-awful their trojans really are. Thank you and have a nice day.
 
2007-11-24 04:26:08 PM
steamingpile: Yes and again you fail to see the point of if all your opponents suck then you will fall in the rankings, its just the way it has been since the BCS. You cant just be in the big 10, sec, big 12 and make it to a great bowl, you have to have SOS to keep you ranked and you say you want everyone else to suck other than OSU. Its an idiotic statement and one that others here wont make, even pac 10 teams cheer for other pac 10 teams to do well.

Its a valid point, just one you cant bring yourself to realize.


I don't think your point is as valid as you might think. Generally speaking, the people who vote in the 2 polls used by the BCS will not drop a team because they won. If a team begins the year in the top 25 and goes 12-0, logic dictates that eventually they will rise to the top unless there are other undefeated teams ahead of them.

As for the computers, keep in mind that this week's Sagarin ratings have Kansas ranked #1, despite having the 101st toughest schedule. I doubt Ohio State's schedule strength would ever drop that low, since they are prevented from playing Indiana and Minnseota more than once a season.
 
2007-11-24 04:26:20 PM
there's another "completion" to Reynaud.
 
2007-11-24 04:26:40 PM
bel4sucks: VinnyV: I'd just like to say that espn carrying ND/Stanford and not WVU/UConn is BULLshiat.

That is all

That game is either on CBS or ABC (it's probably ABC) for me man, you might check there?


i've got it figured out. It's blacked out in HD but for some reason the SD channel works. Still weird.
 
2007-11-24 04:27:54 PM
Came in to say:

1.) TD GT

2.) Does anyone have a sopcast/tvu/tvants link for the game?

/comcast sucks
 
2007-11-24 04:29:33 PM
FiascoSauce: he actually averages 17.4 attempts/game this year. he also averages 14.7 rushing carries/game. does that mean pat white is a bad passer and a bad runner?

You really gotta get over the persecution complex. Are you a member of his family?

He's just not great. I mean, he's good enough for a mediocre conference in college football and a crappy out of conference slate, but he's not going to do anything anywhere else.

gator249: ////And Lord? Please let Florida play USC somehow in a bowl game so they can see how gawd-awful their trojans really are. Thank you and have a nice day.

Ask the other teams in your conference how playing USC worked for them.

dmd8605: It's perfectly reasonable , especially when you consider that SEC teams have averaged over 25 scholarship recruits per year since 2002, when there are only 85 D-1A scholarships to be had per team.

I don't really know how the whole scholarship thing works in relation to this, but they've averaged 25 scholarship recruits? why is that bad?
 
2007-11-24 04:29:58 PM
gator249: I went to UF but it's hard to say LSU, if they win the SEC (especially if it's over top-5 UGA, which doesn't look like it's going to happen b/c Phil Fulmer-shiate has found a way to eff it all up) doesn't deserve to play for the NC.

They played six top-17 teams this season, losing to only one, and a win over UGA (even UT) would mean six wins over top 17-teams. They did lose to unranked Arkansas but Ark is 8-4 with one of the top Heisman hopefuls in the country. The other loss was to then-17th-ranked Kentucky who has their own Heisman hopeful QB and beat them on 3 OTs (as did Arkansas) in Kentucky.

If LSU has a weakness, it's that you can beat them in 3 OTs because they can't convert a two-point conversion. We've found it! Their Achilles' heel!

It pains me to root for LSU but I still think they'd destroy WVU (who will have played four top-25 teams...powerhouses the likes of Rutgers, UConn and Cincinnati -- and lost to one...USF??!!) The Tigers would crush Kansas (only ONE game against a top 25 team, a #24, and/or Mizzou (two wins against bottom of the top-25 and a loss to #6 OU) and Ohio State as well. Hell, I'd LOVE to see LSU/Ohio State for the title. Moreso, If OSU beat LSU I'd start to believe the SEC isn't all that.

I also agree with other sentiments that a West Virginia/Kansas or WVU/Mizzou NC game would EAT ASSSSSS! Who the HELL would watch that crap-fest? Jeez.

/GO GATORS
//GO SEC!!!
///GO TO HELL WHACK-TEN, you SUCK!
////And Lord? Please let Florida play USC somehow in a bowl game so they can see how gawd-awful their trojans really are. Thank you and have a nice day.


The fallacy there being that LSU needed a tremendous amount of luck to be able to barely beat a few teams such as Auburn, Florida, Bama, etc. That means they barely beat 3 good teams and barely lost to 2. Can't have it both ways though, saying that the wins were quality but the losses weren't
 
2007-11-24 04:32:51 PM
gator249: I went to UF but it's hard to say LSU, if they win the SEC (especially if it's over top-5 UGA, which doesn't look like it's going to happen b/c Phil Fulmer-shiate has found a way to eff it all up) doesn't deserve to play for the NC.

This is the kind of SEC fan I distance myself from, no way does LSU deserve to be in that game now.

Trainspotr: I don't think your point is as valid as you might think. Generally speaking, the people who vote in the 2 polls used by the BCS will not drop a team because they won. If a team begins the year in the top 25 and goes 12-0, logic dictates that eventually they will rise to the top unless there are other undefeated teams ahead of them.

As for the computers, keep in mind that this week's Sagarin ratings have Kansas ranked #1, despite having the 101st toughest schedule. I doubt Ohio State's schedule strength would ever drop that low, since they are prevented from playing Indiana and Minnseota more than once a season.


When it comes to the top 5 yes SOS matters, since they get quality win points for beating ranked teams especially those in the top 10. If the rest of the big 10 would be unranked then their SOS would be around 250 in the land since they would then play maybe 1 or 2 ranked opponents at best. Your opponents schedule keeps you out of those games, just ask auburn the year they were kept out when they probably deserved to be there.
 
2007-11-24 04:33:08 PM
Never mind, the second link explained what the first did not.

still don't see what's so bad about it. of course the teams from the non-traditional good team and that aren't proud of academics (like Stanford) are going to try to get anyone they can.
 
2007-11-24 04:34:32 PM
elektronic: Came in to say:

1.) TD GT

2.) Does anyone have a sopcast/tvu/tvants link for the game?

/comcast sucks


Ehh Im still not scared of GT, sooner or later their QB will fark up again since he doesnt have johnson to bail him out.
 
2007-11-24 04:34:58 PM
baorao: How long has Eddie Royal been at Virginia Tech? He must be going for a doctorate.

lol... he's a senior this year. He was a true freshman in 2004 (Virginia Tech's first ACC championship year). He's been a force all four years though...
 
2007-11-24 04:35:19 PM
lol, alright, because i think he is a good passer just like the ncaa stat page and thousands of other people do, i am either part of his family or suffer from a "persecution complex", or both. but obviously youareright either way.

and i guess youareright about the big east being a mediocre conference. what is the average pac-10 team's OOC schedule like? let's take USC. their combineed ooc opponent record is 7 and 24. tell me which team's is better.
 
2007-11-24 04:37:13 PM
FiascoSauce: lol, alright, because i think he is a good passer just like the ncaa stat page and thousands of other people do, i am either part of his family or suffer from a "persecution complex", or both. but obviously youareright either way.

and i guess youareright about the big east being a mediocre conference. what is the average pac-10 team's OOC schedule like? let's take USC. their combineed ooc opponent record is 7 and 24. tell me which team's is better.


I think the last thing in the world you want to be doing is trying to use the Big East's OOC schedule in SUPPORT of their relative conference strength.
 
2007-11-24 04:38:49 PM
PrankMonkey: baorao: How long has Eddie Royal been at Virginia Tech? He must be going for a doctorate.

lol... he's a senior this year. He was a true freshman in 2004 (Virginia Tech's first ACC championship year). He's been a force all four years though...


first implies they have more than one...

/Beamer is a douche.
 
2007-11-24 04:38:51 PM
wow...bad call on the review at UCLA imo
 
2007-11-24 04:39:31 PM
that's not what i am doing. sure, the big east has a really crappy ooc schedule, but so does everyone else. west virginia's is certainly MUCH better than that of any pac-10 team.
 
2007-11-24 04:39:39 PM
FiascoSauce: and i guess youareright about the big east being a mediocre conference. what is the average pac-10 team's OOC schedule like? let's take USC. their combineed ooc opponent record is 7 and 24. tell me which team's is better.

Sweet now someone arguing that the big 10 is better than the pac 10, argue with him for a while so I can relax...........
 
2007-11-24 04:39:52 PM
Woody Hayes

This thread needs more Erin Andrews. Sweet Jesus.

img85.imageshack.us
 
2007-11-24 04:40:21 PM
shiat I meant big east...........calmo............
 
2007-11-24 04:40:26 PM
What do you know, the same crew that almost screwed Oregon State decides "let's screw Oregon in this one"... that was pathetic.

This officiating crew should be fired, and there's no doubt at all.
 
2007-11-24 04:41:56 PM
GratuityIncluded: Woody Hayes

This thread needs more Erin Andrews. Sweet Jesus.


something tells me that is the best photo ever taken of her

/begs to be proved wrong
 
2007-11-24 04:42:06 PM
FiascoSauce: that's not what i am doing. sure, the big east has a really crappy ooc schedule, but so does everyone else. west virginia's is certainly MUCH better than that of any pac-10 team.

i didn't realize maryland was a better ooc team than tennessee or michigan.
 
2007-11-24 04:42:28 PM
GratuityIncluded: This thread needs more Erin Andrews. Sweet Jesus.

Unless shes in a cheer leading uniform or streaking across the field, then she has no business on the sidelines.
 
2007-11-24 04:43:49 PM
steamingpile:
Ehh Im still not scared of GT, sooner or later their QB will fark up again since he doesnt have johnson to bail him out.


You don't need to tell me our team is bad. I've been watching them all season. Also...this QB only had Johnson to bail him out in the bowl game. R***** B*** left last season.
 
2007-11-24 04:46:09 PM
GratuityIncluded: Woody Hayes

This thread needs more Erin Andrews. Sweet Jesus.


sportsgonesouth.com
 
2007-11-24 04:46:16 PM
FiascoSauce: west virginia's is certainly MUCH better than that of any pac-10 team.

Wow! You're an idiot!
 
2007-11-24 04:46:37 PM
elektronic: You don't need to tell me our team is bad. I've been watching them all season. Also...this QB only had Johnson to bail him out in the bowl game. R***** B*** left last season.

Geez he was horrible, why chan kept playing him is beyond me
 
2007-11-24 04:46:39 PM
elektronic: PrankMonkey: baorao: How long has Eddie Royal been at Virginia Tech? He must be going for a doctorate.

lol... he's a senior this year. He was a true freshman in 2004 (Virginia Tech's first ACC championship year). He's been a force all four years though...

first implies they have more than one...

/Beamer is a douche.


Sorry, I started to type Virginia Tech's first year, then decided to throw in the ACC championship. One out of three years with a shot at it this year isn't bad though.

Btw, what's with the Beamer dig? Bitter that he owns Groh?
 
2007-11-24 04:47:17 PM
FiascoSauce: and i guess youareright about the big east being a mediocre conference. what is the average pac-10 team's OOC schedule like? let's take USC. their combineed ooc opponent record is 7 and 24. tell me which team's is better.

Meh, they don't get to choose Notre Dame, they are always with them. And the overall record is 8-26, thank you very much. At least they schedule teams that are SUPPOSED to be consistently good. Not their fault Weis and Callahan killed ND and Nebraska, respectively.

Anyway, how are these for you? Washington played Ohio State and Boise State, Washington State played Wisconsin, Oregon played Michigan, Oregon State played...okay, you got me on them...they got killed by Cincinnati. Cal played Tennessee, USC played Nebraska (who turned out to suck), ASU played Colorado (okay, weak, but they did beat Oklahoma), UCLA and Arizona played BYU. Stanford played...eh, I guess TCU. Okay, theirs wasn't great either, but they scheduled it when TCU was a regular 10+ game winner.

You can accuse the Pac-10 of some things, but easy OOC is about the stupidest; ESPECIALLY going after USC
 
2007-11-24 04:47:59 PM
But just because you need "proof" that a Pac10 team has a good OOC schedule: Washington played Syracuse (not good, but a BCS team on the road), Boise State (won at home), Ohio State (lost at home), and they'll play Hawaii on the road (and have a chance).

There, Washington has a better OOC schedule than the entire Big East.
 
2007-11-24 04:48:59 PM
I'm saying the losses WERE quality losses...is that not clear? Two 3OT losses to two teams with great records and both with their own Heisman candidate. How is that saying those weren't quality losses?

As for how the SEC did against USC? They didn't play the Gators. That's what I want. Not, wait, they didn't play an SEC school this season. They did lose to UCLA last season opening the door for our run to the title so I guess I should show some love...

Oh and don't bring luck into an argument. Many games have been won by "luck" over the years. The old saying, "sometimes it's better to be lucky than good" can be very true. USC got to play for a NC on "luck" when they got a "lucky" TD vs. ND that season. LSU beat Florida this year by converting on 5-5 4th down plays. Luck or good coaching?

I'm just saying, when you play a schedule like LSU's (and ours for that matter...we just didn't win as many as last year) you deserve more consideration that when you play weaker teams (which means more wins and higher late-season rankings, ie Kansas.)

All this would be moot if the teams actually got to play each other in a play-off (like hoops) instead of this outdated BCS crap. Hopefully someday we'll know what that's like.
 
2007-11-24 04:49:18 PM
PrankMonkey: Btw, what's with the Beamer dig? Bitter that he owns Groh?

Bitter that we "let" that POS school in the ACC. Also, he doesn't run the cleanest program in college football.
 
2007-11-24 04:49:56 PM
Good to see UConn has no interest in winning this game, what with the turnovers and giving up huge runs.
 
2007-11-24 04:50:43 PM
Anyway, is there anyone here willing to talk football, instead of ignorance and stupidity? I mean, who is WVU's big win/game? UCONN?
 
2007-11-24 04:50:55 PM
elektronic: PrankMonkey: Btw, what's with the Beamer dig? Bitter that he owns Groh?

Bitter that we "let" that POS school in the ACC. Also, he doesn't run the cleanest program in college football.


hahaha right. Why don't you tell me more about how great Uva's academics are, also?
 
2007-11-24 04:52:55 PM
TD UGA!
 
2007-11-24 04:53:29 PM
Missed PI...great reffing
 
2007-11-24 04:53:29 PM
gator249: I'm saying the losses WERE quality losses...is that not clear? Two 3OT losses to two teams with great records and both with their own Heisman candidate. How is that saying those weren't quality losses?

As I said earlier, it would be fun to see everyone lose so LSU thinks they're getting in, then have USC get in over them, just so USC can say "So, how do you feel about 3 OT losses to bowl teams as "weak losses" now, f*ckers?"

/USC was kept out of the NC game in '03 due to a 3OT loss on the road to Cal
//hey hey, UK's making a run of this yet! Georgia may get their chance!
 
2007-11-24 04:54:20 PM
I'm starting to get a persecution complex about the officiating in the Oregon game. No facemask, no incomplete pass, no PI?
 
2007-11-24 04:54:36 PM
Hey, what do you know, Oregon got hosed again by the refs.

Not that they don't have some karma coming back on them, but at least the refs could TRY to pay attention.
 
2007-11-24 04:55:20 PM
Kuta: SEC IS SOUTHERNERS ARE AFRAID OF THE BIG TEN IN BOWL GAMES OF BEING UP NORTH FROM DECEMBER THROUGH APRIL

ftfy ;)

GratuityIncluded: This thread needs more Erin Andrews.

tyvm for that
going to jack it now
 
2007-11-24 04:56:28 PM
BTW, Erin Andrews is a Gator (I went to J-School with her.)


/The 2nd pic of Erin ain't Erin.
 
2007-11-24 04:56:45 PM
IAmRight: /USC was kept out of the NC game in '03 due to a 3OT loss on the road to Cal

Of course, Cal was better that year than Kentucky or Arkansas are this year.

/Oklahoma was still the team that didn't belong
//any screwjobs the Sooners get, after two straight undeserved BCS title game appearances, is deserved
 
2007-11-24 04:57:00 PM
TD, Tech
 
2007-11-24 04:58:25 PM
puffy999: //any screwjobs the Sooners get, after two straight undeserved BCS title game appearances, is deserved

I think last year's Fiesta Bowl was delicious enough for me.

No shiat, lose your conference championship game by 28? Go ahead and go for the NC anyway!
 
2007-11-24 05:00:15 PM
IAmRight: I think last year's Fiesta Bowl was delicious enough for me.

No, not for me, because I thought BSU could win. They need to be embarassed... I want to see them undefeated and passed over for the title game by 1-loss teams from the SEC and Pac10.
 
2007-11-24 05:00:17 PM
Someone shoot Williams....he can't catch crap.
 
2007-11-24 05:01:01 PM
TD UConn!

/no wonder they're losing, looking at the average starting position
//UConn: UConn 18
///WVU: WVU 43
 
2007-11-24 05:01:49 PM
Kuta:

SEC IS AFRAID OF THE BIG TEN OUTSIDE OF BOWL GAMES.



Alabama played Penn State for something like 10 years straight in the 80s and early 90s. They play again in 2010 and 2011
 
2007-11-24 05:02:59 PM
I don't know why Kentucky is trying so hard to get out of bounds, they have 5 minutes.
 
2007-11-24 05:03:14 PM
puffy999: No, not for me, because I thought BSU could win. They need to be embarassed... I want to see them undefeated and passed over for the title game by 1-loss teams from the SEC and Pac10.

I thought they could win, too. But clearly the Oklahoma fans didn't, and that was awesome. The game that put them there instead of a title game was also great, with the Oregon game horrible officiating and all the AD crying about the game should be stricken from the record and such.

BTW, Oregon on their 3rd QB, UCLA still on their 4th. No wonder teams are dropping.
 
2007-11-24 05:03:24 PM
Yesterday, many teams could have beaten LSU. That's not to say the results would be the same today. But as for yesterday, they were not only not the best team, they weren't that good. They lost the game in the first half when they didn't score 21 in the first quarter when they had the chance. I don't care how the rest of the games shake out, LSU will play in the Sugar Bowl at best.
 
2007-11-24 05:04:19 PM
lol UK receiver gets drilled in the back on a pass
 
2007-11-24 05:04:56 PM
OH SNAP THAT farkER GOT DRILLED!

AND INT TENNESSEE!
 
2007-11-24 05:05:05 PM
IAmRight: BTW, Oregon on their 3rd QB, UCLA still on their 4th. No wonder teams are dropping.
Oregon's 3rd string QB was hurt a few weeks ago, and is out for the season. I don't even know who this guy is. He's 4th string at best.


OH MY GOD, Kentucky just BLEW IT!
 
2007-11-24 05:05:45 PM
God I hate kentucky giving me a little hope they could win to put UGA in the sec game.
 
2007-11-24 05:05:57 PM
TD UGA! after a lucky call for them, but COUNT IT
 
2007-11-24 05:06:15 PM
puffy999: Oregon's 3rd string QB was hurt a few weeks ago, and is out for the season. I don't even know who this guy is. He's 4th string at best.

How the hell did he get hurt?

lol, okay, it's the battle of the 4th stringers.
 
2007-11-24 05:07:24 PM
It's funny how we argue for hours on this topic. The BCS is a joke. It's what these rich bowl pricks give us and we take it and argue over who is better rather than get together and work to eliminate this crap. We buy the jerseys and the tickets and give to the alumni association. Yet we have no say in how this stuff works itself out?

It's why the basketball tournament works: rankings don't mean anything more that who will be on the bubble. Everybody has a chance to win in hoops, and occasionally the smaller team wins it all ('Nova or NC State.) The best teams tend to win and there's very little doubt. Well, we can dream...
 
2007-11-24 05:07:50 PM
steamingpile: God I hate kentucky giving me a little hope they could win to put UGA in the sec game.

game still isn't over, apparently both teams think that the minutes are seconds, as Tennessee thinks that they can run out the clock when they get the ball with 4 minutes left.
 
2007-11-24 05:09:43 PM
I think he was injured in practice. From what I understand, it was before Dixon was injured, and the guy was SUPPOSED TO BE pretty good.
 
2007-11-24 05:09:46 PM
gator249: It's why the basketball tournament works:

and yet college football is millions of times more loved than college basketball. One could certainly say that it "works", too.
 
2007-11-24 05:11:24 PM
as this kentucky game drags on, let me get my two cents in....

FSU fans, wetherford and lee combined dont form as good a qb as tebow.


Tebow 18(Gators as a team 28)--FSU 13
 
2007-11-24 05:11:32 PM
gator249: It's funny how we argue for hours on this topic. The BCS is a joke. It's what these rich bowl pricks give us and we take it and argue over who is better rather than get together and work to eliminate this crap. We buy the jerseys and the tickets and give to the alumni association. Yet we have no say in how this stuff works itself out?

It's why the basketball tournament works: rankings don't mean anything more that who will be on the bubble. Everybody has a chance to win in hoops, and occasionally the smaller team wins it all ('Nova or NC State.) The best teams tend to win and there's very little doubt. Well, we can dream...


I agree. For the most part. Parity has been strong in college football this year and will continue to be in the years to come, mostly based on the new scholarship limitations distributing talent more equally. Other than that, spot on. CFB needs something besides the BCS
 
2007-11-24 05:13:05 PM
IAmRight: OH SNAP THAT farkER GOT DRILLED!

AND INT TENNESSEE!


yeah these announcers are acting like every big play is the first time its happened... ie the last sideline catch by kentucky....
 
2007-11-24 05:13:59 PM
uh oh vols fans, mayo is down....
 
2007-11-24 05:15:00 PM
Apparently, today is the anniversary of the huddle on offense
 
2007-11-24 05:16:12 PM
A nice interception return by Notre Dame at the end of the half. 99 yards with a few laterals, but an illegal block brings it back.
 
2007-11-24 05:16:18 PM
IAmRight: I don't really know how the whole scholarship thing works in relation to this, but they've averaged 25 scholarship recruits? why is that bad?

Each team has averaged 25 per year. Over a four-year period, that's 100 scholarships for every SEC team, when only 85 are available. I'm not even considering redshirt years here. Obviously, 100 is a lot more than 85. What this should tell you is that many of the players SEC teams recruit cannot pass muster academically anywhere else. The two links I provided go to a two-part blog post, one at MGoBlog and the other at Every Day Should Be Saturday, on this subject that breaks this down by conference and team and adds some shiny analysis to it to boot.

(Disclosure: MGo is a Michigan blog, EDSBS a Florida blog. Both are among the best in the CFB blogosphere.)
 
2007-11-24 05:16:19 PM
I'd like to point out that in a WAC-Big XII matchup...Fresno State is pounding Kansas State. Maybe Hawaii's better than Kansas!
 
2007-11-24 05:16:42 PM
bel4sucks: Apparently, today is the anniversary of the huddle on offense

that'll teach teams to play deaf schools
 
2007-11-24 05:17:24 PM
img108.imageshack.us
 
2007-11-24 05:18:12 PM
star_topology: A nice interception return by Notre Dame at the end of the half. 99 yards with a few laterals, but an illegal block brings it back.

that would be the notre dame i've grown to know and love....
 
2007-11-24 05:18:37 PM
We're not debating which sport is loved more, we're talking about the playoff system. The NCAA basketball Tourney has a "million times" more interest than the football bowls. I don't see millions of offices doing football bowl bracket sheets...
 
2007-11-24 05:18:53 PM
Tennessee seems to take a special liking to blowing a lead in the 4th quarter.
 
2007-11-24 05:19:04 PM
dmd8605: Each team has averaged 25 per year. Over a four-year period, that's 100 scholarships for every SEC team, when only 85 are available. I'm not even considering redshirt years here. Obviously, 100 is a lot more than 85. What this should tell you is that many of the players SEC teams recruit cannot pass muster academically anywhere else.

I guess what I'm not understanding is why offering more people scholarships means that they're not capable of getting offers somewhere else? Perhaps the better teams just don't need the borderline great players than the teams that need to improve do?
 
2007-11-24 05:20:10 PM
Great time for an illegal substitution call Kentucky lol.
 
2007-11-24 05:20:40 PM
etymxris: Great time for an illegal substitution call Kentucky lol.

that was a true freshman and rich brooks didnt miss a chance to chew him out....
 
2007-11-24 05:20:49 PM
IAmRight: game still isn't over, apparently both teams think that the minutes are seconds, as Tennessee thinks that they can run out the clock when they get the ball with 4 minutes left.

God they are going to kick a FG to lengthen my agony
 
2007-11-24 05:21:43 PM
gator249: The NCAA basketball Tourney has a "million times" more interest than the football bowls. I don't see millions of offices doing football bowl bracket sheets...

I actually do see those, but yeah, I'm not gonna say that "easier to make up a sheet for and gamble on" makes it better.

/UK is going to win
//too bad for Tennessee that they can't hold onto these INTs
 
2007-11-24 05:21:52 PM
IAmRight: and yet college football is millions of times more loved than college basketball.

Except I think more people would "love" the idea of a real tournament, instead of the BS.
 
2007-11-24 05:21:54 PM
damn kentucky is making tennessee look average or less.....


woodson just picking the vols apart up and down the field....


please kentucky, win or lose it in regulation please :D
 
2007-11-24 05:22:08 PM
steamingpile: IAmRight: game still isn't over, apparently both teams think that the minutes are seconds, as Tennessee thinks that they can run out the clock when they get the ball with 4 minutes left.

God they are going to kick a FG to lengthen my agony


No, the agony will end shortly...
 
2007-11-24 05:22:39 PM
How many near-INTs can be thrown in one drive?
 
2007-11-24 05:23:41 PM
IAmRight: How many near-INTs can be thrown in one drive?

Really, at this point they don't deserve to win
 
2007-11-24 05:23:46 PM
mugging in the end zone....
 
2007-11-24 05:24:04 PM
puffy999: Except I think more people would "love" the idea of a real tournament, instead of the BS.

true, but dammit, playoffs don't always produce the best team as champion, especially in a one-and-done format.

Tennessee is blowing the hell out of this game
 
2007-11-24 05:24:59 PM
That was not an intelligent play call from Rich Brooks.
 
2007-11-24 05:25:07 PM
VinnyV: Really, at this point they don't deserve to win

which? could be applicable for either.
 
2007-11-24 05:25:37 PM
VinnyV:
Really, at this point they don't deserve to win


and tennessee deserves it? with eric "i'm going to audible every time to a pass, eventhough we can run the clock down" ainge at qb, tennessee in the second half hasnt exactly played to win...
 
2007-11-24 05:25:40 PM
IAmRight: puffy999: Except I think more people would "love" the idea of a real tournament, instead of the BS.

true, but dammit, playoffs don't always produce the best team as champion, especially in a one-and-done format.

Tennessee is blowing the hell out of this game


Wouldn't you agree that it's better than the current BCS system, though?
 
2007-11-24 05:25:58 PM
puffy999: That was not an intelligent play call from Rich Brooks.

It was a fine call with a timeout.
 
2007-11-24 05:26:02 PM
Nice 5-yard forward lateral, UCLA.

I'm honestly shocked the refs actually called it.
 
2007-11-24 05:26:12 PM
IAmRight: I guess what I'm not understanding is why offering more people scholarships means that they're not capable of getting offers somewhere else? Perhaps the better teams just don't need the borderline great players than the teams that need to improve do?

It's not just offering more, but actually getting signed letters of intent. It means that the players they actually get on signing day either don't qualify academically or leave really quickly (usually for academic reasons). And it happens at a far higher rate in the SEC than any other conference. Seriously, look at those two links. It's really quite interesting.
 
2007-11-24 05:26:27 PM
wow, kentucky just nearly burnt their chances....
 
2007-11-24 05:26:28 PM
1 second left lol.
 
2007-11-24 05:26:51 PM
mathmatix: VinnyV:
Really, at this point they don't deserve to win

and tennessee deserves it? with eric "i'm going to audible every time to a pass, eventhough we can run the clock down" ainge at qb, tennessee in the second half hasnt exactly played to win...


hahah, I'm sorry, I meant Tennessee. but that was a dumbass play by Woodson.
 
2007-11-24 05:26:59 PM
VinnyV: Wouldn't you agree that it's better than the current BCS system, though?

the old bowl system was better.

/good thing the game's in Kentucky, otherwise that last second runs off
 
2007-11-24 05:27:07 PM
OMFG

Woodson is not the QB he was earlier this year
 
2007-11-24 05:27:26 PM
IAmRight: It was a fine call with a timeout.

Until Kentucky just about lost the game on the next play.
 
2007-11-24 05:28:25 PM
dmd8605: It's not just offering more, but actually getting signed letters of intent. It means that the players they actually get on signing day either don't qualify academically or leave really quickly (usually for academic reasons). And it happens at a far higher rate in the SEC than any other conference. Seriously, look at those two links. It's really quite interesting.

I already did, woo @ Pac 10 having the best and the worst!
 
2007-11-24 05:28:32 PM
The SEC announcers are fun... the SEC is so great because they have so many bowl teams.

Why, I guess that makes the Big11 the best conference in America, because they have 10 bowl-eligible teams.
 
2007-11-24 05:28:36 PM
puffy999: Until Kentucky just about lost the game on the next play.

but that has nothing to do with the previous play. the previous play was a good play call w/ timeouts remaining. Unless you're just hating to hate anything east of pac 10....
 
2007-11-24 05:29:35 PM
puffy999: Until Kentucky just about lost the game on the next play.

that would be the QB's fault, kinda like Riley for Cal. Would've been even funnier if Woodson panicked the same way and got tackled.
 
2007-11-24 05:29:44 PM
puffy999: The SEC announcers are fun... the SEC is so great because they have so many bowl teams.

Why, I guess that makes the Big11 the best conference in America, because they have 10 bowl-eligible teams.


Look we get it, you hate the SEC. GOOD for you. So since the SEC is down this year that means the national title should be coming out of the PAC 10 right?
 
2007-11-24 05:29:53 PM
www.mikelive.us

Go Mizzou!


/doesn't care either way ... BUCKEYES BABY!
 
2007-11-24 05:30:33 PM
puffy999: Why, I guess that makes the Big11 the best conference in America, because they have 10 bowl-eligible teams.

And Minnesota, who wouldn't get into a Division III playoff.
 
2007-11-24 05:31:09 PM
The SEC is the best conference because it's the most fun.

All ya'll northern folk don't understand how to make football entertaining.

Simple.
 
2007-11-24 05:31:17 PM
mathmatix: Look we get it, you hate the SEC. GOOD for you. So since the SEC is down this year that means the national title should be coming out of the PAC 10 right?

If all our QBs weren't broken it would be :(
 
2007-11-24 05:31:50 PM
god... i just want to see florida/fsu... not kentucky and tennessee.... this is why you should never bet on tennessee to win, even if they're playing kentucky
 
2007-11-24 05:31:58 PM
This isn't about gambling, either. Overall, the hoops tournament is a far greater experience for fans than the bowls. That's all I'm saying.
 
2007-11-24 05:32:32 PM
OK, I'm not able to see the game, but looking at GameCast, does UCLA really have NO passing yards? I'm just making sure there is no glitch here on my computer, but if it's true, wow. Just, wow.
 
2007-11-24 05:32:46 PM
Confabulat: All ya'll northern folk don't understand how to make football entertaining.

well, I'd agree about the Big 10, their football is boring as hell.

Oregon was exciting before they had to put in 2nd-4th string QBs.
 
2007-11-24 05:33:14 PM
mathmatix: Look we get it, you hate the SEC

I don't hate the SEC, I hate the stupid arguments I hear out of the SEC, their announcers, and their fans, about how awesome they are.

Besides, the Big11 is obviously the best, because not only do they have the best ratio of bowl-eligible teams, they also have a team that could play for the national title!
I want to GUARANTEE you, that if the SEC were in the same position, they'd be "bar none the best conference in college football", according to the experts and their fans.
 
2007-11-24 05:33:32 PM
IAmRight: If all our QBs weren't broken it would be :(

IF, IF, IF....

So I'll take that as a no, just wondering then what the fark PUFFY is talking about... I mean for someone shiatting on the SEC so hard, you'd figure their conference would be out in front and unstoppable...
 
2007-11-24 05:34:03 PM
DevilsHorns J: OK, I'm not able to see the game, but looking at GameCast, does UCLA really have NO passing yards? I'm just making sure there is no glitch here on my computer, but if it's true, wow. Just, wow.

The announcers said the illegal forward pass was the first completion for UCLA for the game.
 
2007-11-24 05:34:18 PM
DevilsHorns J: OK, I'm not able to see the game, but looking at GameCast, does UCLA really have NO passing yards? I'm just making sure there is no glitch here on my computer, but if it's true, wow. Just, wow.

They've gained 14 yards but lost 18 on sacks.
 
2007-11-24 05:34:49 PM
IAmRight: VinnyV: Wouldn't you agree that it's better than the current BCS system, though?

the old bowl system was better.

/good thing the game's in Kentucky, otherwise that last second runs off


You wont get a UT fan to admit the BCS is worse, they were the first gift NC team
 
2007-11-24 05:34:53 PM
mathmatix: the previous play was a good play call w/ timeouts remaining.

First and goal, with about 10 seconds left... a run up the middle isn't always the best idea, when you are trying to win the game. Hell, LSU lost to Kentucky specifically because of that kind of playcall.
 
2007-11-24 05:35:04 PM
puffy999: I don't hate the SEC, I hate the stupid arguments I hear out of the SEC, their announcers, and their fans, about how awesome they are.



well for someone that hates it so much, you sure do enjoy posting about them. and parroting the arguments that make the pac 10 stronger, but not the ones that make the SEC stronger...
 
2007-11-24 05:37:05 PM
puffy999: mathmatix: the previous play was a good play call w/ timeouts remaining.

First and goal, with about 10 seconds left... a run up the middle isn't always the best idea, when you are trying to win the game. Hell, LSU lost to Kentucky specifically because of that kind of playcall.


First and goal with ten seconds left and timeouts remaining. Sorry but if you are going to summarize the situation, include all the facts. LSU lost on a play like that because they think their shiat dont stink, who else other than LSU would call a 20 yd TD pass on 4th and 1 trailing in the fourth quarter? So lets not act like LSU is the bastion of intelligent football decisions.
 
2007-11-24 05:37:33 PM
OK kids, enjoy the bickering. I'm off to Bobby V's in good old Stamford, CT to watch the Gators whoop up on the 'Noles. Yeah, I know it started already but it's hard to pull ones self away from good home cooking! Ciao!
 
2007-11-24 05:37:56 PM
mathmatix: So lets not act like LSU is the bastion of intelligent football decisions.

Which is why we in Columbus are ecstatic that Les Miles is the frontrunner for the Michigan job.
 
2007-11-24 05:38:38 PM
Hell farking yes, now stop these assholes!
 
2007-11-24 05:38:41 PM
gator249: Yeah, I know it started already but it's hard to pull ones self away from good home cooking! Ciao!

patiently waiting for the game to come on... damn kentucky and tenn

cmon kentucky just get an int or something...
 
2007-11-24 05:38:47 PM
14-3 Gators!
 
2007-11-24 05:39:16 PM
mathmatix: So I'll take that as a no, just wondering then what the fark PUFFY is talking about... I mean for someone shiatting on the SEC so hard, you'd figure their conference would be out in front and unstoppable...

Imagine Florida without Tebow and every other team in the SEC without their starter for for several games; obviously the SEC would be much worse than they are even now. Of course the Pac-10 isn't going to have a BCS champion when every contender's QB has been crippled this season.

etymxris: The announcers said the illegal forward pass was the first completion for UCLA for the game.

4th stringers who are WRs converted to QB out of desperation aren't particularly known for being great passers.

/holy crap at Tennessee TD!
 
2007-11-24 05:39:19 PM
Wow, just wow.
 
2007-11-24 05:39:21 PM
dmd8605: mathmatix: So lets not act like LSU is the bastion of intelligent football decisions.

Which is why we in Columbus are ecstatic that Les Miles is the frontrunner for the Michigan job.


which is why you should be... cuz they wont have the talent LSU gets..
 
2007-11-24 05:41:05 PM
mathmatix: I mean for someone shiatting on the SEC so hard, you'd figure their conference would be out in front and unstoppable...

God forbid someone not suck your balls and say the SEC is easily the best conference. God forbid someone comment on a statement from an announcer ON THE CURRENT CBS broadcast, add factual information, and bring up how lame the typical arguments from your conference are, considering a flat-out terrible conference (the Big11) has a pretty good argument (meaning, a better argument than was made by these SEC announcers, based on what he directly commented on) to be the best this year.
 
2007-11-24 05:41:15 PM
never mind on Tennessee TD, that hit the ground

lol @ announcer saying that "even though the ball hits the ground, you can't overturn it because it's not evident"
 
2007-11-24 05:42:28 PM
Kentucky just got jobbed.
 
2007-11-24 05:42:55 PM
IAmRight: Imagine Florida without Tebow and every other team in the SEC without their starter for for several games; obviously the SEC would be much worse than they are even now. Of course the Pac-10 isn't going to have a BCS champion when every contender's QB has been crippled this season.

well just like the heisman, the national title is for who survives the season the best. it was dixon's to lose(the heisman) but he's injured and basically eliminated...

but saying that if the pac ten's qb's survived, then it would be a different story is just playing in fantasy land. I mean you're welcome to do that, but thats not being fair to the teams who have survived and still have undefeated records. We get it you and puffy think the pac 10 is great, to each their own. And for the record, Tebow's had a bad shoulder since about game 3 or 4, but he's battled through it....
 
2007-11-24 05:44:03 PM
Tennessee's touchdown is overturned if CBS didn't have such a terrible picture on their slow motion replay.
 
2007-11-24 05:44:17 PM
puffy999: mathmatix: I mean for someone shiatting on the SEC so hard, you'd figure their conference would be out in front and unstoppable...

God forbid someone not suck your balls and say the SEC is easily the best conference.


BUT IF THE PAC 10 QB's were healthy, we'd all be USC or OREGON FANS...
 
2007-11-24 05:44:44 PM
hey guys!
I'm watching Georgia
cuz of the blonds theyhave!
and brad nesser, Brian griese

also

MANUre LOST!!!!

strange 2nd down....
 
2007-11-24 05:45:07 PM
INT UK!
 
2007-11-24 05:45:08 PM
MagooASU: Tennessee's touchdown is overturned if CBS didn't have such a terrible picture on their slow motion replay.

Isnt the game in hd, and thats the best view they can come up with?

And Eric "i like INT's" ainge, strikes again
 
2007-11-24 05:45:09 PM
INT Kentucky!

/buh bye, Tennessee
 
2007-11-24 05:45:39 PM
IAmRight: never mind on Tennessee TD, that hit the ground

lol @ announcer saying that "even though the ball hits the ground, you can't overturn it because it's not evident"


Yeah I agree with that his hands werent under the ball
 
2007-11-24 05:46:02 PM
Karma is a biatch.
 
2007-11-24 05:46:03 PM
mathmatix: Sorry but if you are going to summarize the situation, include all the facts.

You mean, they had more than one timeout? You apparently missed the facts, yourself.

I get it, there was a timeout, that was mentioned OVER, and OVER, and OVER again. That's old news, my comment was directly about how a run up the middle, EVEN WITH ONE TIMEOUT (singular, no "s", as you "tried" to bring up the "facts"), it's not the most intelligent decision, with such a short amount of time and a large amount of downs. Especially considering what Kentucky's bread and butter is.
 
2007-11-24 05:46:04 PM
IAmRight: INT Kentucky!

/buh bye, Tennessee


not so fast, they still have rich brooks at coach for kentucky....
 
2007-11-24 05:46:30 PM
And UK loses 4 yards on the first play. Why didn't UK just take four attempts at the FG from the 25?
 
2007-11-24 05:46:49 PM
Oops, the 4th string Oregon QB got pounded. Fifth string guy looks like a deer in the headlights.
 
2007-11-24 05:46:58 PM
mathmatix: And Eric "i like INT's" ainge, strikes again

then again, maybe some SEC teams would be better off if their starters were injured, such as Ainge and Cox and Smelley and Dick.

/what's with the toilet humor names? damn.
 
2007-11-24 05:47:14 PM
I'm a Beaver fan, and I was rooting for my team to ruin Oregon's BCS chances. But that may very well not happen.
 
2007-11-24 05:47:32 PM
rassad jones!
flags on the play


so kentucky loses, Georgia is in, with its blonds!
or tennessee loses?

1st down georgia
 
2007-11-24 05:47:47 PM
etymxris: And UK loses 4 yards on the first play. Why didn't UK just take four attempts at the FG from the 25?

god forbid, they do what got them here and let woodson win the game for them... i mean that would be too easy to play kentucky football, lets change the game plan and not move the ball... though they broke a tackle on the last option...

and another running play, i hope they miss the kick brooks. just to show you what a shiatty job of coaching you just did...
 
2007-11-24 05:48:04 PM
And before someone erroneously corrects me, we can still (at this moment, assuming Oregon can come back) end Oregon's chances for a BCS bowl game.
 
2007-11-24 05:48:23 PM
Dallymo: Oops, the 4th string Oregon QB got pounded. Fifth string guy looks like a deer in the headlights.

lmfao geez.

/and yeah, it's UK's game
//and Georgia's division
///who knows who's conference
 
2007-11-24 05:48:30 PM
IAmRight: mathmatix: And Eric "i like INT's" ainge, strikes again

then again, maybe some SEC teams would be better off if their starters were injured, such as Ainge and Cox and Smelley and Dick.

/what's with the toilet humor names? damn.


lulz, if i was a vol fan I'd be hoping for an ainge injury every play. But as a gator fan, I hope he's healthy every year...
 
2007-11-24 05:49:35 PM
LOL WTF?
 
2007-11-24 05:49:36 PM
Oh my!!!! Not so fast, UGA!
 
2007-11-24 05:49:39 PM
The game goes on...
 
2007-11-24 05:49:45 PM
BLOCKED!

/lol @ facemask...hey, facemask penalty or possibly lose the game? best facemask EVER
 
2007-11-24 05:49:57 PM
God damn it
 
2007-11-24 05:50:12 PM
Smartest face mask in the history of college football.
 
2007-11-24 05:50:23 PM
I've never seen teams exchange 0 scores in an OT period. And what would have happened if Tennessee had run it all the way back?
 
2007-11-24 05:50:36 PM
It's funny because I think the SEC is required to have 3 OTs to decide any OT.
 
2007-11-24 05:50:43 PM
rich brooks see why you dont act like another team and play to your strengths? I maybe saw five running plays in the entire second half and kentucky does 3 running plays in a row...

tennessee should win this game now...
 
2007-11-24 05:51:15 PM
mathmatix: We get it you and puffy think the pac 10 is great, to each their own.

What's funny is that I'm not even saying that, nor am I upset that the Pac10 doesn't have all of their QBs (it sucks, sure, but it's football), I'm just really ripping on the SEC and how "awesome" they are, and let me repeat, this started after COMMENTS DIRECTLY FROM THE CBS broadcast, and after I replied with FACTUAL INFORMATION (oddly enough, about the Big11, not the Pac10, but hey).
 
2007-11-24 05:51:35 PM
etymxris: I've never seen teams exchange 0 scores in an OT period. And what would have happened if Tennessee had run it all the way back?

nothing, as the ref explained by rule on a change of possession, the play is dead and they move onto the next overtime....
 
2007-11-24 05:51:59 PM
etymxris: I've never seen teams exchange 0 scores in an OT period. And what would have happened if Tennessee had run it all the way back?

Tennessee would have won, game over. That's why the facemask was the best ever.

mathmatix: I maybe saw five running plays in the entire second half and kentucky does 3 running plays in a row...

And Woodson tried to throw about 8 INTs in the second half, too, so I can see why he didn't want to pass.
 
2007-11-24 05:52:10 PM
Also, go ahead and ask Michigan fans what I think about the Big11 conference. Yet, here I am, defending them. You keep reading "Pac10" in my posts, somehow, but meh.
 
2007-11-24 05:52:26 PM
puffy999: mathmatix: We get it you and puffy think the pac 10 is great, to each their own.

What's funny is that I'm not even saying that, nor am I upset that the Pac10 doesn't have all of their QBs (it sucks, sure, but it's football), I'm just really ripping on the SEC and how "awesome" they are, and let me repeat, this started after COMMENTS DIRECTLY FROM THE CBS broadcast, and after I replied with FACTUAL INFORMATION (oddly enough, about the Big11, not the Pac10, but hey).


well to be fair, i'm a lil butthurt i have to watch this crap fest and not FSU/UF right now....
 
2007-11-24 05:53:04 PM
This is the most excruciating review of an incomplete pass I've ever seen. GET ON WITH IT.
 
2007-11-24 05:53:04 PM
mathmatix: nothing, as the ref explained by rule on a change of possession, the play is dead and they move onto the next overtime....

no it isn't, if they run it back for a TD the TD counts. the ref said that a penalty doesn't count in that situation.
 
2007-11-24 05:53:07 PM
wow
a lateral went to shait on Georgia
it went out of the end zone,
after a tech had it for a td!
touchback!
first and 10, georgia
16-14
marone!
 
2007-11-24 05:53:33 PM
mathmatix: nothing, as the ref explained by rule on a change of possession, the play is dead and they move onto the next overtime....

That's not correct. That was a live ball.
 
2007-11-24 05:53:34 PM
The fact that there is no penalty for a facemask like that in OT is ridiculous.
 
2007-11-24 05:53:41 PM
puffy999: I'm just really ripping on the SEC and how "awesome" they are,

Dude, the SEC IS awesome. It's a proven fact that's it's WAY more awesome that boring northern football. It doesn't even matter how good the teams are relative to the "Pac-10" or whatever those other conferences call themselves.

The SEC IS college football. Everyone else just wishes they were as awesome as the SEC.

FACT.
 
2007-11-24 05:54:05 PM
IAmRight: And Woodson tried to throw about 8 INTs in the second half, too, so I can see why he didn't want to pass.

but still though, how many flat passes to the running back did they hit in the second half.. hell they had at least six in a row at one point....

I'm just saying changing your game plan in overtime usually costs you more than a possession.


SEMINOLES>.. Tim Tebow owns you.... 14-3 still in first quarter
 
2007-11-24 05:54:51 PM
kraut7: mathmatix: nothing, as the ref explained by rule on a change of possession, the play is dead and they move onto the next overtime....

That's not correct. That was a live ball.


okay well thanks for the corrections
 
2007-11-24 05:55:04 PM
Great throw. TD, UK!
 
2007-11-24 05:55:16 PM
mathmatix: well to be fair, i'm a lil butthurt i have to watch this crap fest and not FSU/UF right now..

FSU can't complete the 3rd and 1 on the UF 20. Ha!
 
2007-11-24 05:56:05 PM
Great Odins Raven: The fact that there is no penalty for a facemask like that in OT is ridiculous.

what do you want them to do? move the ball 15 yards from the spot and then call it dead?

/wow, Tennessee tries to fumble away the stop on the 2 point conversion
 
2007-11-24 05:56:10 PM
The SEC IS college football. Everyone else just wishes they were as awesome as the SEC.



i think the big 12 has the upper hand now.
go dawgs!
 
2007-11-24 05:56:41 PM
Jesus this is too much
 
2007-11-24 05:57:02 PM
If Tennessee fumbled through the end zone...Kentucky would've gotten a safety for the 2 point conversion, right? lmao
 
2007-11-24 05:57:06 PM
steamingpile: Jesus this is too much

well at least someone should win after this possession
 
2007-11-24 05:57:46 PM
IAmRight: If Tennessee fumbled through the end zone...Kentucky would've gotten a safety for the 2 point conversion, right? lmao

yeah all they would have had to do was fall on it... could have been the greatest two pt conversion :D
 
2007-11-24 05:57:52 PM
Pac10 refs strike again! This victim: Notre Dame. The crime: getting screwed out of a touchdown catch.
 
2007-11-24 05:58:34 PM
Two hours until Armageddon.

img214.imageshack.us
 
2007-11-24 05:58:44 PM
Another TD! Here we go...
 
2007-11-24 05:59:21 PM
mathmatix: yeah all they would have had to do was fall on it... could have been the greatest two pt conversion :D

no, i mean the guy from Tenn who kicked it out of bounds, had it gone out inside the end zone instead of at the 1, it would've been a safety, too, right? Tennessee had possession last, and it went from outside the end zone to inside it, it would be like a punter kicking a bad snap through the back, right?

TD Tennessee!
 
2007-11-24 05:59:39 PM
phillip fullmer, i hate you so much for calling timeout... I want you to win just to fark georgia's chances, but damn this is a bit much...


get to the real game :D
 
2007-11-24 05:59:51 PM
georgia punts
Tech ball at teh 20
16-14
none of them georgia blonds on TV yet!
a cute panda though!
 
2007-11-24 06:00:53 PM
LMAO 4 OTs in the dumbest, weirdest possible ways
 
2007-11-24 06:00:56 PM
What a weak call, try a trick play or something.
 
2007-11-24 06:01:32 PM
4th OT is death for higher-ranked SEC teams
 
2007-11-24 06:01:41 PM
tenn scores its tied
 
2007-11-24 06:01:49 PM
IAmRight: mathmatix: yeah all they would have had to do was fall on it... could have been the greatest two pt conversion :D

no, i mean the guy from Tenn who kicked it out of bounds, had it gone out inside the end zone instead of at the 1, it would've been a safety, too, right? Tennessee had possession last, and it went from outside the end zone to inside it, it would be like a punter kicking a bad snap through the back, right?

TD Tennessee!


if it passed out of bounds inside the pylon, yah you're right....


mathmatix: well at least someone should win after this possession

shut up moron... Tennessee picks up a cheap personal foul thanks to their rb chucking the ball after not picking up 2pt
 
2007-11-24 06:01:55 PM
I am very happy my CBS affliate is showing the Gator game.

I'd be PISSED if I missed most of the first half having to watch Tennessee play for the SEC championship.
 
2007-11-24 06:01:58 PM
OT #4.

Now add a personal foul. Kind of makes you wonder why they can't do the same thing with the facemask at the end of OT #2.
 
2007-11-24 06:02:00 PM
Now I'm confused. Why doesn't the facemask against Kentucky carry over but the personal foul against Tennessee does?
 
2007-11-24 06:02:03 PM
So personal fouls cary over? Why wasn't the facemask a personal foul?
 
2007-11-24 06:02:15 PM
wow, so that gets administered during the 4th OT, and that's pretty gay for throwing the football...but a facemask neck-snapping possible tackle doesn't carry over. nice.
 
2007-11-24 06:02:20 PM
So would it be reasonable to assume that if Tenn wins, and Georgia wins, then Georgia would be ranked higher than the two teams playing in the conference championship? Yaaay rankings.
 
2007-11-24 06:02:25 PM
Confabulat: I am very happy my CBS affliate is showing the Gator game.

I'd be PISSED if I missed most of the first half having to watch Tennessee play for the SEC championship.


i hate you too :D
 
2007-11-24 06:03:18 PM
I hate living in Florida. I mean, who'd want to see a 4-OT crazy-fest?
 
2007-11-24 06:04:02 PM
Well that was quick.
 
2007-11-24 06:04:02 PM
VinnyV: So would it be reasonable to assume that if Tenn wins, and Georgia wins, then Georgia would be ranked higher than the two teams playing in the conference championship? Yaaay rankings.

there was talk, retarded talk, on espn's early games about how georgia could be in national title game and not play in SEC championship game...
 
2007-11-24 06:04:06 PM
fark you, refs!!!
 
2007-11-24 06:04:08 PM
They have to try and stop them sometime, right?
 
2007-11-24 06:04:10 PM
So much for that 15 yard penalty.
 
2007-11-24 06:04:20 PM
sack!
the ot in ncaa is not sufficient!
heres your 3-20
dropped at the 10!
 
2007-11-24 06:04:29 PM
You've got to be farking kidding me. This game is insane.
 
2007-11-24 06:04:33 PM
Great Odins Raven: So personal fouls cary over? Why wasn't the facemask a personal foul?

I'm gonna say it was due to the Tennessee one being an after the play penalty. And it's pretty stupid to have "delay of game" on a play that is already delayed since it's the end of possession.

/TD Tennessee anyway
//I thought it was gonna be assessed on a Kentucky drive
///this game is being played the way OT is supposed to go, unlike LSU/Arkansas
 
2007-11-24 06:04:37 PM
IAmRight: a facemask neck-snapping possible tackle doesn't carry over. nice.

The call was obviously stupid (akin to something you would see out of our conference's officials), but a dead ball foul v. a non-dead ball foul... though I really didn't know you could carry something like that over.

Doesn't matter, Kentucky forgot that a 15-yard penalty doesn't end the drive.
 
2007-11-24 06:05:08 PM
got the two! hold em now...

/Don't like Tenn, just hate UGA.
 
2007-11-24 06:05:13 PM
Man, it take 3-4 OTs for an SEC game to have a score like a pac10 or big12 game.

And two points good!
 
2007-11-24 06:05:16 PM
Prevent defense, prevents you from winning.

Rich brooks sucks
 
2007-11-24 06:05:36 PM
The face mask was during the play. The unsportsmanlike was a dead ball.
 
2007-11-24 06:05:46 PM
wow
fumble, or interference
loose ball in the end zone
that gtech kid can punt!
 
2007-11-24 06:05:50 PM
mathmatix: there was talk, retarded talk, on espn's early games about how georgia could be in national title game and not play in SEC championship game...

2001 Nebraska says it's not as crazy as you may think.
 
2007-11-24 06:06:14 PM
Touchdown Gators!
 
2007-11-24 06:06:23 PM
Great Odins Raven: Man, it take 3-4 OTs for an SEC game to have a score like a pac10 or big12 game.

And two points good!


yeah well, to be fair they do teach defense in the SEC
 
2007-11-24 06:07:24 PM
IAmRight: 2001 Nebraska says it's not as crazy as you may think.

i know, i was adding the qualifier so as no one thought my fanboi of gator nation was the reason i was bringing it up....
 
2007-11-24 06:07:35 PM
I say just let 'em score the TD and save your energy for stopping the 2 point conversion.
 
2007-11-24 06:07:46 PM
whats kevin costner doing coaching georgia
georgia recovers!
great exciting game so far!
 
2007-11-24 06:08:49 PM
Confabulat: Touchdown Gators!

*sigh*
 
2007-11-24 06:08:50 PM
mathmatix: i know, i was adding the qualifier so as no one thought my fanboi of gator nation was the reason i was bringing it up....

I wouldn't expect a gator to say that UGA should be playing for a national title.
 
2007-11-24 06:09:15 PM
mathmatix: yeah well, to be fair they do teach defense in the SEC

Just not at the end of the games, apparently.
 
2007-11-24 06:10:03 PM
IAmRight: mathmatix: i know, i was adding the qualifier so as no one thought my fanboi of gator nation was the reason i was bringing it up....

I wouldn't expect a gator to say that UGA should be playing for a national title.


you wouldnt. A few others might though....

Anything that knocks the dawgs down a peg until next year is good in my book... they will lose by 30 next season to the gators...
 
2007-11-24 06:10:27 PM
mathmatix: *sigh*

there you go, free highlight.

/Tebow for Heisman, I guess, unless Hawaii goes undefeated through a BCS game, then what the hell, might as well give it to Brennan just for fun
 
2007-11-24 06:10:45 PM
puffy999: mathmatix: yeah well, to be fair they do teach defense in the SEC

Just not at the end of the games, apparently.


hehehe
 
2007-11-24 06:10:48 PM
mathmatix: yeah well, to be fair they do teach defense in the SEC

My comment was not a jab at any conference, just an observation.
 
2007-11-24 06:10:50 PM
Great Odins Raven: Man, it take 3-4 OTs for an SEC game to have a score like a pac10 or big12 game.

And two points good!


Cause in the SEC we have this thing we call defense, maybe youve read about it........
 
2007-11-24 06:11:25 PM
IAmRight: might as well give it to Brennan just for fun

No, it's Tebow's. Brennan deserves it about as much as Dixon does (both have missed about as much time over the course of this season).
 
2007-11-24 06:11:41 PM
Just give him the TD, he was in there. Good, finally fixed that.
 
2007-11-24 06:12:21 PM
2001 nebraska was a joke!
almost!
huge play by georgia
 
2007-11-24 06:12:59 PM
puffy999: No, it's Tebow's. Brennan deserves it about as much as Dixon does (both have missed about as much time over the course of this season).

yeah, I know, but soph's basically aren't allowed to have it.

/maybe they give it to McFadden
//I wouldn't argue too much with that, either, I guess
 
2007-11-24 06:13:02 PM
What are the announcers talking about? Running a play you haven't practiced? That's suicide.
 
2007-11-24 06:13:36 PM
td georgia!
23 14
update on tenn/kent
 
2007-11-24 06:13:43 PM
Great Odins Raven: mathmatix: yeah well, to be fair they do teach defense in the SEC

My comment was not a jab at any conference, just an observation.


I know, i'm nursing some asswounds waiting for the gator game to come on tv... and another time out is called....
 
2007-11-24 06:14:31 PM
IAmRight:
/Tebow for Heisman, I guess, unless Hawaii goes undefeated through a BCS game, then what the hell, might as well give it to Brennan just for fun


well if it was given out after bcs bowls, you may have a point. but its going to be given away two weeks from tonight iirc.... so its tebow's to lose at this point...
 
2007-11-24 06:14:52 PM
Too bad Kentucky,better luck next year. Hopefully you will not suck on defense, again.
 
2007-11-24 06:14:58 PM
It is funny, though. SEC games end with nice low scores in regulation, then the final score ends up being in the 50s because they go 5 OTs deep. It is fun.

Good job Kentucky, you blew it.
 
2007-11-24 06:15:08 PM
Ballgame, biatches!
 
2007-11-24 06:15:12 PM
thank god, now put on gators.....
 
2007-11-24 06:15:16 PM
TENNESSEE WINS!

(I thought Woodson absolutely had that for a run if he went sooner)
 
2007-11-24 06:15:22 PM
fark
 
2007-11-24 06:15:30 PM
steamingpile: Great Odins Raven: Man, it take 3-4 OTs for an SEC game to have a score like a pac10 or big12 game.

And two points good!

Cause in the SEC we have this thing we call defense, maybe youve read about it........


Yeah, but I really don't enjoy watching some SEC west game that is 3-0 in the middle of the 3rd quarter. But I like the SEC, and the PAC-10. For Tennesee and Oregon.


AND WE GOT IT!
 
2007-11-24 06:16:09 PM
How do you throw 3int's and still get player of the game?


wtf, cbs you may need to rethink your player of the game declarations....
 
2007-11-24 06:16:21 PM
mathmatix: well if it was given out after bcs bowls, you may have a point. but its going to be given away two weeks from tonight iirc.... so its tebow's to lose at this point...

oh yeah, how could I forget? Thanks for pissing Vince Young off even more, voters (though I still say Bush deserved it)
 
2007-11-24 06:16:38 PM
On behalf of the entire Big Blue Nation & the Commonwealth of Kentucky,

fark TENNESSEE!
 
2007-11-24 06:16:55 PM
IAmRight: TENNESSEE WINS!

(I thought Woodson absolutely had that for a run if he went sooner)


the bump by his own lineman was just enough for the defender to catch up....
 
2007-11-24 06:17:07 PM
Kentucky's #66 lineman lost that game for them. Didn't even try a little to block his man when the QB went scrambling by, just started jogging after him like a dumbass.
 
2007-11-24 06:17:22 PM
IAmRight: soph's basically aren't allowed to have it.

But usually someone is decent enough as a non-Soph to stand out. This year, the NCAA just doesn't want to obey the rules.

I do think McFadden deserves more pub, but he's held down by his coach IMHO. Oh well, Nutt will probably be gone sooner than later.
 
2007-11-24 06:17:49 PM
AlrightGuy: On behalf of the entire Big Blue Nation & the Commonwealth of Kentucky,

fark TENNESSEE!


On behalf of gator nation, Thank you tennessee! Another thorn in the dawgs paw to deal with..
 
2007-11-24 06:18:03 PM
FSU chokes away another touchdown opportunity. Keep racking up those field goals!
 
2007-11-24 06:19:13 PM
Where is castortroy? I've been waiting for this game all season since he loves to come in after a gator loss and poke fun....
 
2007-11-24 06:19:44 PM
mathmatix: AlrightGuy: On behalf of the entire Big Blue Nation & the Commonwealth of Kentucky,

fark TENNESSEE!

On behalf of gator nation, Thank you tennessee! Another thorn in the dawgs paw to deal with..


Eh, beating the Gators will suffice for this season.
 
2007-11-24 06:20:53 PM
Great Odins Raven: Yeah, but I really don't enjoy watching some SEC west game that is 3-0 in the middle of the 3rd quarter. But I like the SEC, and the PAC-10. For Tennesee and Oregon.

I'd like to point to Oregon's losing 9-0 right now in the 4th for the easy refutation of that claim.

/both teams with guys who don't belong on the roster at QB
//who's QBing UCLA now? that's not the guy that started!
 
2007-11-24 06:21:41 PM
Oregon is going to be absolutely slaughtered by Oregon State next week.
 
2007-11-24 06:22:32 PM
Holy ridiculous INT by Oregon, Batman! Guy actually descended from Willie Mays goes with the over the head one handed pick!

/it was OLSON! HE WAS AVAILABLE?
 
2007-11-24 06:22:46 PM
Jaison Williams needs to learn how to catch.
 
2007-11-24 06:23:23 PM
puffy999: Oregon is going to be absolutely slaughtered by Oregon State next week.

Their QB looks to be about 14 years old.
 
2007-11-24 06:24:25 PM
puffy999: Jaison Williams needs to learn how to catch.

even if he caught it he would've been out of bounds, so it really didn't matter. but it would be helpful in the future.
 
2007-11-24 06:26:01 PM
So Oregon's playing their 3rd quarterback OF THE DAY? Meaning, their 5th string QB?
 
2007-11-24 06:26:31 PM
Oregon's back-up quarterbacks are full of FAIL. They would be better off throwing the punter in there to play QB the rest of the game.
 
2007-11-24 06:26:38 PM
Poor Roper is really shook up. It's going to be a long seven minutes to get out of this awful game.

How about this: Assuming Oregon ever gets the ball back, put Dennis Dixon in, have him way back to take a very long snap, and throw the ball? Should give him enough time so he doesn't get hit, and he might complete a pass.
 
2007-11-24 06:27:20 PM
puffy999: So Oregon's playing their 3rd quarterback OF THE DAY? Meaning, their 5th string QB?

as has been said...yes.

UCLA started with their 4th stringer and the last pick was thrown by their first stringer, which leads me to much confusion. I mean, I know Karl Dorrell is incompetent...but wtf?
 
2007-11-24 06:27:26 PM
IAmRight: even if he caught it he would've been out of bounds,

I didn't watch closely enough, but I assumed he could have put at least one foot down when the ball hit his hands (it was going OOB, but I thought he was still in bounds when it got to him).

He's got to at least catch it... he's dropped more balls than a kids' Russian gymnastics team today.
 
2007-11-24 06:28:55 PM
IAmRight: as has been said...yes.

I'm not reading everything (and had turned the game off), so I probably ignored that fact. I just missed the part when the guy after Leaf went out.
 
2007-11-24 06:29:11 PM
Dallymo: Should give him enough time so he doesn't get hit, and he might complete a pass.

his last knee tweak happened without contact, I doubt he needs to be back there.

puffy999: He's got to at least catch it... he's dropped more balls than a kids' Russian gymnastics team today.

oh, I dunno, I've been focused on other games, since I knew this was going to be a cripple fight.
 
2007-11-24 06:30:31 PM
Holy crap UCLA with a TD.
 
2007-11-24 06:31:33 PM
Dallymo: Assuming Oregon ever gets the ball back, put Dennis Dixon in, have him way back to take a very long snap, and throw the ball? Should give him enough time so he doesn't get hit, and he might complete a pass.

Honestly, the Ducks would be better off if they give Dixon the Byron Leftwich college treatment.
 
2007-11-24 06:32:25 PM
IAmRight: Dallymo: Should give him enough time so he doesn't get hit, and he might complete a pass.

his last knee tweak happened without contact, I doubt he needs to be back there.


Without contact, but scrambling; I mean, just have him stand there and throw it.

Although since UCLA now has the game in the bag I suppose it's no use anyhow.
 
2007-11-24 06:32:52 PM
IAmRight: oh, I dunno, I've been focused on other games, since I knew this was going to be a cripple fight

I've seen him drop quite a few catches today, when I've been watching. Williams is amazingly talented, but he's got the Terrell Owens dropsies times 10.
 
2007-11-24 06:33:10 PM
georgia is kicking arse!
 
2007-11-24 06:33:32 PM
Roll Tide! (new window)
 
2007-11-24 06:34:15 PM
IAmRight: his last knee tweak happened without contact

He was running, and planted.
He theoretically should be able to throw without running... and Oregon's coaching staff, based on their track record, would probably have no problem throwing him back in there and permanently crippling him.
 
2007-11-24 06:34:45 PM
puffy999: I've seen him drop quite a few catches today, when I've been watching. Williams is amazingly talented, but he's got the Terrell Owens dropsies times 10.

That's why it would've been helpful to have Paysinger and Colvin for the season :/
 
2007-11-24 06:34:47 PM
I'd rather see georgia vs LSU
then les vols
 
2007-11-24 06:35:55 PM
It looks like the refs are trying to help ND out after screwing them out of a TD earlier in the game.
 
2007-11-24 06:36:01 PM
Gators forced to settle for a field goal for the first time in the game.
 
2007-11-24 06:36:32 PM
wait, QB #4 is back in there for Oregon...takes another sack, just like 5th guy did.

If the 20 yard line was a receiver, that pass was perfect.
 
2007-11-24 06:37:20 PM
IAmRight: That's why it would've been helpful to have Paysinger and Colvin for the season :/

Colvin certainly isn't someone I'd want to try to hold onto the ball for me. :)
 
2007-11-24 06:37:30 PM
wait, how did Stanford not score?
 
2007-11-24 06:38:02 PM
TD UGA. 2 pt is GOOD!
 
2007-11-24 06:38:16 PM
does Dorsey (lsu) have a chance at the heissman?
 
2007-11-24 06:38:29 PM
IAmRight: wait, QB #4 is back in there for Oregon...takes another sack, just like 5th guy did.

Nice.

Wow, not only can Williams typically not catch, he's not very intelligent and doesn't know where he is on the field, either.
 
2007-11-24 06:38:44 PM
puffy999: Colvin certainly isn't someone I'd want to try to hold onto the ball for me. :)

well...c'mon, at least he caught it initially.
 
2007-11-24 06:39:15 PM
IAmRight: wait, how did Stanford not score?

The field goal was "missed" (even though it looked about as close as you could get).
 
2007-11-24 06:39:33 PM
WOW Notre Dame and Stanford gonna have a nerd fight.
 
2007-11-24 06:40:02 PM
wow did Oregon take a nose dive.
/no diving duck jokes
 
2007-11-24 06:40:35 PM
IAmRight: well...c'mon, at least he caught it initially.

You got me there. Though I'm sure he'd rather have gone J-Will on the pass, as opposed to Leon Lett.
 
2007-11-24 06:40:56 PM
expobill: wow did Oregon take a nose dive.

amazing the difference between 1st and 5th string QBs leading a team.
 
2007-11-24 06:42:59 PM
FSU just hit a 60 yd field goal...
 
2007-11-24 06:43:20 PM
Wow FSU kicking a 60 yard FG.
 
2007-11-24 06:43:52 PM
Hell, go for it. Why bother punting?
 
2007-11-24 06:44:16 PM
IAmRight: expobill: wow did Oregon take a nose dive.

amazing the difference between 1st and 5th string QBs leading a team.


Yeah you cant mock oregon, they had a great season but injuries cut it short.

Expobill, you cant tell me if tebow got injured and missed 3 or 4 games the gators season wouldnt be different, and a much worse year...
 
2007-11-24 06:45:11 PM
When I say "go for it", I don't mean, "throw a 2 yard route on 4th and 10 and hope the guy runs for it"
 
2007-11-24 06:45:42 PM
I'm not sure how I missed this, but I just noticed that Drew Weatherford is only a junior this year. Is it just me or does it seem like he's been sucking it up down at FSU for at least 5 or 6 years now?
 
2007-11-24 06:45:46 PM
That FG was amazing.

I anticipate a trend of fat kickers now.
 
2007-11-24 06:45:59 PM
that should be the game
for Georgia
so they go to the sugar bowl?
 
2007-11-24 06:46:04 PM
IAmRight: expobill: wow did Oregon take a nose dive.

amazing the difference between 1st and 5th string QBs leading a team.


I'm just amazed at the speed with which they crashed after Dixon's injury--the first five minutes of that game were huge, and once he was out of the game they really did nosedive and have been picking up speed ever since.
 
2007-11-24 06:46:09 PM
Oh well. still... know what the UGA calls the Tech grad?

boss

/Go Dawgs
 
2007-11-24 06:47:24 PM
Same pattern every year:

Beginning of season: SEC is a powerhouse - definitely the best conference

Middle of season: Well - the SEC is looking weaker than we thought...

Bowl season : Well the SEC trounced the Big 11 powers and looks to be back on top

Same shiat every year.
 
2007-11-24 06:49:33 PM
4NSpy: I anticipate a trend of fat kickers now.

Janikowski didn't exactly do it when he was at FSU, I doubt this guy will.
 
2007-11-24 06:49:52 PM
DevilsHorns J: I'm not sure how I missed this, but I just noticed that Drew Weatherford is only a junior this year. Is it just me or does it seem like he's been sucking it up down at FSU for at least 5 or 6 years now?

I know what you mean, the problem is he's just the typical FSU style qb. I'm starting to wonder if there was another player with a similar name at qb after weinke....
 
2007-11-24 06:49:54 PM
that Drew Weatherford is only a junior

did Chris Weinke ever graduate?
 
2007-11-24 06:50:12 PM
mathmatix: Yeah you cant mock oregon, they had a great season but injuries cut it short.

Someone said you can't mock Oregon? That's funny, because they seem to look like crap without Dixon in there.
 
2007-11-24 06:51:26 PM
i feel bad for oregon
they should get something for beating Michigan
in the big house
 
2007-11-24 06:51:38 PM
expobill: did Chris Weinke ever graduate?

yeah, I believe he has compiled something like a 2-19 career NFL record. For some reason 27 year olds that are only slightly better than college opponents aren't great in the NFL.
 
2007-11-24 06:52:30 PM
Well, that was painful. Time to take a break before the Missouri game.
 
2007-11-24 06:52:56 PM
So why is that Stanford QB in?
 
2007-11-24 06:53:01 PM
puffy999: Someone said you can't mock Oregon? That's funny, because they seem to look like crap without Dixon in there.

Without Dixon, Johnson, Paysinger, and Colvin, with an injured Stewart, an injured Leaf (and then not even him)...
 
2007-11-24 06:53:19 PM
puffy999: mathmatix: Yeah you cant mock oregon, they had a great season but injuries cut it short.

Someone said you can't mock Oregon? That's funny, because they seem to look like crap without Dixon in there.


You're right, sorry to try and give a PAC 10 team a compliment on a great season up until the dixon injury.

But you go ahead and get uppity about something... Also, its cbs' job to talk up the SEC, since they have the contract for most of the large SEC games. But hey dont let the factual evidence you were talking about earlier affect the truthiness of your post....
 
2007-11-24 06:53:52 PM
Dallymo

I'm just amazed at the speed with which they crashed after Dixon's injury--the first five minutes of that game were huge, and once he was out of the game they really did nosedive and have been picking up speed ever since.

It didn't surprise me at all, because Dixon was the only thing holding an already-injured team together. The last straw was losing Jeremiah Johnson before the Dixon injury. Now there is really NO ONE to take the pressure off Jonathan Stewart, so teams just have to stop him and that's it. I don't think I've ever seen as many major skill-position injuries happen in one season to one team as Oregon this year.

Shame, really, because most of them were seniors, and by the looks of these backups, they'll be in the PAC 10 basement for a couple years after this season.
 
2007-11-24 06:54:00 PM
FYSMD CASTORTROY (TROY BOY) DIAF. The "best" team in the ACC IS LOSING TO THE "worst" team in the ACC. RIGHT? RIGHT? RIGHT? CONGRATS on the FG ASSW!PE. KEEP CELEBRATING THAT, YOU POS.
 
2007-11-24 06:54:08 PM
mathmatix: Also, its cbs' job to talk up the SEC, since they have the contract for most of the large SEC games.

If they dont talk up the SEC, I'd think they werent doing their jobs...
 
2007-11-24 06:54:18 PM
puffy999: So why is that Stanford QB in?

I don't even know which one is their starter and which is the backup; hell, the supposed backup beat USC, so I don't know why he shouldn't be considered the starter.
 
2007-11-24 06:54:43 PM
IAmRight: For some reason 27 year olds that are only slightly better than college opponents aren't great in the NFL.

I always thought '27 was his birth year.
 
2007-11-24 06:55:41 PM
im going to cook food
pasta.(before that Kansas coach eats it!)
sleeping with the head coach??///?
seems to me every is staying for the game later.
 
2007-11-24 06:56:42 PM
duckpoopy: Bowl season : Well the SEC trounced the Big 11 powers and looks to be back on top

Same shiat every year.


Except, no.
 
2007-11-24 06:57:07 PM
someone fsu hit a 60 yarder?
 
2007-11-24 06:57:20 PM
mathmatix: Also, its cbs' job to talk up the SEC, since they have the contract for most of the large SEC games.

We're upset because we have no one in the media to praise us like the other conferences do.

DevilsHorns J: Now there is really NO ONE to take the pressure off Jonathan Stewart,

And Stewart was injured at the end of the Arizona game.

Too bad Stanford can't borrow a kicker from another team in the conference, we have a few good ones.
 
2007-11-24 06:58:27 PM
IAmRight: puffy999: So why is that Stanford QB in?

I don't even know which one is their starter and which is the backup; hell, the supposed backup beat USC, so I don't know why he shouldn't be considered the starter.


The announcers are certainly making a big deal out of it. They showed a replay of the hit he took earlier in the game, and they can only assume he was concussed--only they didn't have confirmation, rather the trainers took his helmet away, which means he shouldn't (or can't) go back in the game.
 
2007-11-24 06:58:59 PM
In Division I-A football there is a tie for the longest field goal....67 yards
...between...
Russell Erxleben 10/1/77 in a game between Texas and Rice
Steve Little 10/15/77 in a game between Arkansas and Texas ..and...
Joe Williams 10/21/78 in a game between Witchita State and Southern Illinois....
source:me arse!
 
2007-11-24 06:59:07 PM
duckpoopy: Same pattern every year:

Beginning of season: SEC is a powerhouse - definitely the best conference

Middle of season: Well - the SEC is looking weaker than we thought...

Bowl season : Well the SEC trounced the Big 11 powers and looks to be back on top

Same shiat every year.


Um, the BigTen went 2-1 against the SEC in bowl games last year.
And 0-4 against all those "lesser" conferences.
 
2007-11-24 06:59:27 PM
mathmatix: You're right, sorry to try and give a PAC 10 team a compliment on a great season up until the dixon injury.

I'm actually not getting uptight, but someone is still having a panty twist session.

What I said about Oregon wasn't a joke, it is a fact that they look terrible without Dixon in there. Even if their other injuries weren't injured, Dixon proved himself (this season) to be the straw that stirs the drink, and I don't imagine they'd have been that great without him (even if JJ and JS were a great backfield tandem). I am wondering, though, where this whole "you cannot mock Oregon" idea came from, because you keep saying it, and it's really, really stupid.
 
2007-11-24 06:59:38 PM
Jim Harbaugh should just sneak on the field in pads, he'd probably still light it up.
 
2007-11-24 07:01:01 PM
star_topology: They showed a replay of the hit he took earlier in the game, and they can only assume he was concussed--only they didn't have confirmation, rather the trainers took his helmet away, which means he shouldn't (or can't) go back in the game.

The sideline announcer said "the trainers didn't diagnose him, but he was wobbley and woozey after the hit, so they took his helmet away"... those are typical symptoms of a concussion.
 
2007-11-24 07:01:15 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Notre Dame in scoring position

Jesus, this is looking terrible for the conference, to be responsible for 2/3 of Notre Dame's win total.
 
2007-11-24 07:01:19 PM
Damn...new concept....what to call it?

SEC envy?

/UGA gets all the babes
 
2007-11-24 07:03:19 PM
Oooo leg whip on GT, ejection from the game. Hey Woody, where's your call on "stay classy"
 
2007-11-24 07:04:09 PM
IAmRight: Jesus, this is looking terrible for the conference, to be responsible for 2/3 of Notre Dame's win total.

I can excuse Stanford, but I don't understand UCLA... ever, really.
 
2007-11-24 07:04:50 PM
www.tigerboard.com


Almost game time, so needs a repeat.


/Hates MU
//Hates KU with the heat of the sun
//QED - Go Mizzou-rah
 
2007-11-24 07:07:35 PM
so cal and Georgia would be in a playoff
championship game,
 
2007-11-24 07:09:52 PM
Just started watching, but have had this on my mind all week. Is LSU always supposed to be statistically awesome at the beginning of the season? I mean it seems like for the past couple of years everyone always has them ranked 1 or 2 then they lose, and get pushed back, but not to far, and in no time flat they are back up to #1, and then they blow it again late in the season. It seems like they get breaks when it comes to rankings.
 
2007-11-24 07:09:52 PM
And Chan Gailey Equilibrium is achieved. All is right with the universe.
 
2007-11-24 07:10:21 PM
expobill: georgia is kicking arse!

Well it is tech they are usually not even competitive.
 
2007-11-24 07:11:34 PM
Well tebow's already surpassed my predictions....
 
2007-11-24 07:11:44 PM
Whoo hoo Touchdown Tebow!
 
2007-11-24 07:12:07 PM
puffy999: I can excuse Stanford, but I don't understand UCLA... ever, really.

UCLA gets a pass on the "who the f*ck knows what UCLA team will play this week?" system of Karl Dorrell. Plus, IIRC, they were on QBs 2-4 in that game.
 
2007-11-24 07:12:52 PM
and sorry PUFFY, I guess I'll just stick to talking about the SEC since you seem to have a hardon for my posts...
 
2007-11-24 07:13:21 PM
LMAO @ Notre Dame fan saying "we're number 1!"...what, the number 1 team on the field?
 
2007-11-24 07:13:34 PM
Woo hoo, the ald "blocking and tackling" BS from that senile walking statue Bobby Bowden. Change his diaper and put him to bed Dr. Kevorkian.
 
2007-11-24 07:15:24 PM
Stanford drops the TD on 3rd and goal...
 
2007-11-24 07:16:24 PM
nice challenge, since challenges last longer than timeouts.
 
2007-11-24 07:16:44 PM
Waits patiently for MU/KU.
 
2007-11-24 07:18:05 PM
And Stanford drops two consecutive TDs in the end zone to lose the game.
 
2007-11-24 07:18:51 PM
Wow, I guess that potato was too hot for the Stanford receiver.
 
2007-11-24 07:19:27 PM
ummm...apple cup just started...UW already up 7-0. Crap.
 
2007-11-24 07:20:40 PM
puffy999
I can excuse Stanford, but I don't understand UCLA... ever, really.

As long as that coaching staff is in charge, don't expect to understand any of it. It'll just make your head hurt.

"the trainers didn't diagnose him, but he was wobbley and woozey after the hit, so they took his helmet away"

Well, those trainers are crazy, then! He'll get killed if he goes back in with no helmet!
 
2007-11-24 07:23:38 PM
Nick Nostril: Waits patiently for MU/KU.

What's wrong, are you an insomniac?
 
2007-11-24 07:24:44 PM
IAmRight: LMAO @ Notre Dame fan saying "we're number 1!"...what, the number 1 team on the field?

Number 1 college team from south bend, they own south bend...
 
2007-11-24 07:25:23 PM
The Treeeeees!

/so sad
 
2007-11-24 07:26:22 PM
duckpoopy: Nick Nostril: Waits patiently for MU/KU.

What's wrong, are you an insomniac?


Fla/Fla State game is a snoozer. It's my only option right now.
 
2007-11-24 07:33:47 PM
steamingpile: Its an idiotic statement and one that others here wont make, even pac 10 teams cheer for other pac 10 teams to do well.

Once again, you really need to learn how to play well with others.

Its a valid point, just one you cant bring yourself to realize.

I realize a lot of things, one of them being that trying to hold any sort of valid discourse with you is pointless because the other person is automatically an idiot in your eyes if they disagree with you in the slightest, as you've said many times over.

That inferiority complex of yours which causes you to constantly seek the approval of others? Yeah, that still needs work as well.
 
2007-11-24 07:34:26 PM
You know, after watching Florida some more, does anyone else wonder if Percy Harvin secretly hates Tim Tebow like in "Varsity Blues" because he does most of the running, only to have Tebow get the ball at the goal line every time?

See, these are the things I'm forced to ponder when all of the current games suck this bad.
 
2007-11-24 07:34:54 PM
mathmatix

Congrats on the current whooping being laid upon the Seminoles.
 
2007-11-24 07:35:08 PM
WoodyHayes: Once again, you really need to learn how to play well with others.

hey woody...
 
2007-11-24 07:35:43 PM
DevilsHorns J: See, these are the things I'm forced to ponder when all of the current games suck this bad.

You could just jack off to some Ali Larter pics.
 
2007-11-24 07:36:08 PM
Is Wash St a high school team?
 
2007-11-24 07:37:15 PM
mathmatix: hey woody...

I should have prefaced that by saying I don't consider most Michigan fans as "people." :)

Read the thread from earlier for an explanation, the fellow has issues and asks for anything thrown his way.
 
2007-11-24 07:37:27 PM
WoodyHayes: mathmatix

Congrats on the current whooping being laid upon the Seminoles.


Yeah, it only sucks that castortroy isnt here to to enjoy it... since he loves to take cheap shots after florida losses...
 
2007-11-24 07:38:45 PM
kilgorn: Is Wash St a high school team?

You are seeing why Alex Brink is one of the QBs to not get injured this year. Other teams KNOW they'll beat him. They don't know what to expect from a backup. Always play it safe.
 
2007-11-24 07:40:20 PM
Lou Holtz voice scares me know.
i am afraid he will give one of his "pep" speeches!
 
2007-11-24 07:40:20 PM
kilgorn: Is Wash St a high school team?

Speaking of Washington State, does anybody know what the problem is at UTEP with Mike Price? 4-8?
 
2007-11-24 07:41:07 PM
WoodyHayes: I realize a lot of things, one of them being that trying to hold any sort of valid discourse with you is pointless because the other person is automatically an idiot in your eyes if they disagree with you in the slightest, as you've said many times over.

Once again this is not about me calling you an idiot, which in this case you are being very stupid, this is about what anyone else would do in the same situation. If you want your team to look good in the eyes of the BCS then you should hope michigan goes into that last game strong instead of being .500 or worse.

If you just want to root for someone to do good every year but never make it just root for hawaii cause that what OSU would be regarded as if everyone else was crappy. But hey nice thought process.
 
2007-11-24 07:41:15 PM
mathmatix: Yeah, it only sucks that castortroy isnt here to to enjoy it... since he loves to take cheap shots after florida losses...

C'mon, he has so little to root for with journeyman seasoned veteran Drew Weatherford QBing his team to mediocre season after mediocre season.
 
2007-11-24 07:41:43 PM
mathmatix: WoodyHayes: Once again, you really need to learn how to play well with others.

hey woody...


No shiat on this one
 
2007-11-24 07:41:48 PM
WoodyHayes: mathmatix: hey woody...

I should have prefaced that by saying I don't consider most Michigan fans as "people." :)

Read the thread from earlier for an explanation, the fellow has issues and asks for anything thrown his way.


you read way too much into that woody....


I was just saying hi... but now that you mention it...

Its all good, i've seen the history i can understand.
 
2007-11-24 07:42:00 PM
The Huskies tried to give it away and the Cougars couldn't
fall on it....

/changes channel
 
2007-11-24 07:42:39 PM
expobill: i am afraid he will give one of his "pep" speeches!

Kansas got it last night. Unless he gives Missouri one tonight to even it out, count on a Missouri win.
 
2007-11-24 07:42:43 PM
IAmRight: C'mon, he has so little to root for with journeyman seasoned veteran Drew Weatherford QBing his team to mediocre season after mediocre season.

Yeah i can understand that, but i'm petty. He took his shots at me, i want him to take his shots in return :D
 
2007-11-24 07:43:55 PM
percy harvin is fast....
 
2007-11-24 07:44:26 PM
math, woody
are you hanging around?
 
2007-11-24 07:45:06 PM
steamingpile: Once again this is not about me calling you an idiot, which in this case you are being very stupid, this is about what anyone else would do in the same situation.

So this time you're not calling me an idiot, you're just calling me stupid?

Aside from your inferiority complex, you'd be a wonderful subject to study as to why some people think insults are a good way to get people to agree with them. You're just a weird fellow. Interesting, but as I just said, weird.
 
2007-11-24 07:45:20 PM
expobill: math, woody
are you hanging around?


yeah since i got robbed with the gator game, missing all but the last two minutes of the first half, i'll probably be around for the KU/MIZZOU game...
 
2007-11-24 07:46:12 PM
WoodyHayes:
Aside from your inferiority complex, you'd be a wonderful subject to study as to why some people think insults are a good way to get people to agree with them. You're just a weird fellow. Interesting, but as I just said, weird.


Poo head....
 
2007-11-24 07:46:31 PM
tebow=heisman
 
2007-11-24 07:46:36 PM
bel4sucks: No shiat on this one

Hehe, whine some more as you always do. What is it with you Georgia fans?

mathmatix: percy harvin is fast....

Aye.

expobill: are you hanging around?

Not sure, I may go get a game or two in of NCAA online.
 
2007-11-24 07:46:52 PM
I'm a Gator fan and all, but could these announcers please talk about something other than how amazing and wonderful and incredible Tim Tebow is for a second?
 
2007-11-24 07:47:10 PM
Interesting note: Stanford and UCLA are not only the only two non-Duke teams to lose to Notre Dame, they are also the only two to lose conference games to Washington State.
 
2007-11-24 07:48:08 PM
Confabulat: I'm a Gator fan and all, but could these announcers please talk about something other than how amazing and wonderful and incredible Tim Tebow is for a second?

I've learned to tune it out... so all i hear now is the yardage, the yardline and the score....

the rest is just white noise... cuz verne and the other guy have no idea at times....
 
2007-11-24 07:49:21 PM
IAmRight: Interesting note: Stanford and UCLA are not only the only two non-Duke teams to lose to Notre Dame, they are also the only two to lose conference games to Washington State.

Notre Dame won?

*checks scores*

Nooooooooooooooo!
 
2007-11-24 07:50:31 PM
Confabulat: I'm a Gator fan and all, but could these announcers please talk about something other than how amazing and wonderful and incredible Tim Tebow is for a second?

That's really all they have prepared. The media goes into every game with pre-scripted storylines and they're horrible at ad-libbing.
 
2007-11-24 07:51:08 PM
houston nutt?
just lost some votes
"is he wearing skates.."
nice comeback!
 
2007-11-24 07:51:15 PM
WoodyHayes: bel4sucks: No shiat on this one

Hehe, whine some more as you always do. What is it with you Georgia fans?

mathmatix: percy harvin is fast....

Aye.

expobill: are you hanging around?


Hey man, call me a whiner every time I call you on your bullshiat, but did you ever take that suggestion to take a week off, and calm down? I noticed you were telling someone else to do that earlier in this threa