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(Yahoo)   Sex offenders in Georgia can now live less than 1000 feet from a school, church, or area where children congregate, which is being trumpeted as a victory for absolutely no one, anywhere   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 193
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2007-11-21 02:17:36 PM  
Kyosuke: Most sex offenders live (and continue to live) in the same house as their victims. That's a truth that isn't going away.

This
 
2007-11-21 02:18:27 PM  
Randon:
Sex crimes are the only crimes that we continue to punish after the offender pays their debt to society in prison, even though drug addicts and violent criminals are more likely to reoffend.


This and banning gun ownership for convicted felons. If they served their time, how can you have a continued punishment for them? Also, I dont remember the part of the 2nd Amendment where you have a right to keep and bear arms unless you're a felon. Sex offender is too broad a label currently.

/just settin up my defense for the day i pull out the Angry Inch and a fundie sees is, laughs, calls police, and I get sent to the pokie.
//Hopefully no 'pokie' in the pokie
 
2007-11-21 02:18:48 PM  
Ryan2065: That was deep...

hope you had your galoshes on...
 
2007-11-21 02:19:05 PM  
ramathorn83

I'M OFFENDED THAT I'M NOT GETTING ANY SEX!

Har dee har har har.
 
2007-11-21 02:19:17 PM  
Fellows: When the sex offender label actually means something once again, then we'll talk about legislation surrounding those stuck with the moniker.

This.

How keeping somebody who pled guilty to taking a piss on the side of the highway from residing within 1,000 feet of a place children congregate improves the safety of said children, I'll never know.
 
2007-11-21 02:20:07 PM  
tonesskin As someone else already said, if these people are such a danger to kids, then they shouldn't be free. If they are "safe" enough to not be in prison, they shouldn't have extra limits.


The problem with that is where would they house all of the kids who smoke a joint in college and get busted? Or all of those people who make a 1% rounding error on paying their taxes? Or what about the other countless millions in jail for similar victimless crimes? What about them, mister smarty pants? Didn't think of that, did you?

No, it's best to let the dangerous ones out so we can continue to put legions of people in jail for essentially...nothing. It's America at its finest. Land of the free and all that rot.

/sarcasm - in case anybody really needed it.
//agrees 100% with the post I'm answering.
 
2007-11-21 02:20:48 PM  
Subby doesn't understand how farked up the Georgia Sex Offender's Registry law has turned out to be. People convicted for public urination can be forced to move because they can be considered a sex offender. Additionally, a recent change to the law reached back and pulled a number of people onto the list who had disposed of their cases though pleas for urinating in public thinking their plea would be the end of it. Finally, the law as amended last year had such huge set-offs that it was illegal for people on the registry to live anywhere in three counties in Georgia. If you lived there beforehand, sorry you must sell your house and move.

I think the idea behind the law was good, but it has gone too far. Hell, it has even expanded into other areas like Tennessee's Meth Registry. It is only matter of time before we have the DUI Offender Registry.
 
2007-11-21 02:21:04 PM  
Interesting, IMHO i think sex offender laws could be simplified by simply making them stay 6 feet from any child at all times... who cares if they live in 20 feet from a school, just keep kids out of their reach and i think we're good.

To enforce it force them to hire a bodyguard with a taser and a 6 foot long pole to protect the little buggers, every time he gets within 6 feet you tase that biatch...

Special rules: Unaborted fetuses don't count, since molesting a pregnant woman is just a sex crime against a woman, and noone cares about that (except for women, but thats why we don't let them vote)

If the man were to somehow bag a nice woman and get a kid, offender can look at the child, and hold the child with supervision or when necessary, but must remain emotionally distant (to create more sex offenders)
 
2007-11-21 02:21:32 PM  
Good.

Everyone's gotta live somewhere.
 
2007-11-21 02:22:00 PM  
'Sex Offender' is the Scarlet Letter of the 21st century. It's utterly ridiculous the obsession this nation has with the offense, and the display of incompetence put on by juries, lawmakers, and parents alike.

It's definitely going to get to the point where everyone is a sex offender and the laws won't mean jack.

This country is so farked and ironically enough, it's the ignorant, short-sighted, flag-waving morons nationwide that are to blame...
 
B A [TotalFark]
2007-11-21 02:22:23 PM  
Chow Mein Street: They're pointless laws that only serve to screw over people who've already done their time. This kind of hate isn't even reserved for murderers released from prison.

I'm not saying diddling kiddies isn't disgusting, but if they're still dangerous, keep them locked up. If they're released, let them move on.


Not all sex offenders touched kids. Some of them got labeled for stupid shiat like pissing in an alley. I know a fella who got labeled sex offender for having sex with his 16 year old GF when he was 18 - they got married as soon as he got out of jail but he still/always will be a registered sex offender with living restrictions. - ASININE1sombreradoraloca: It would encourage them to not report their whereabouts, firstly.

And who honestly believes it's possible to remain 1000 feet away from any location where a child might pop up? And to maintain that reality for a large number of people and their living situations?

Sorry. This law was bogus. It's a tough choice, but probably better in the long run.


Yeah, try going to Krogers - kids everywhere.
 
2007-11-21 02:23:34 PM  
howdoibegin: /"personal choice" eugenics are a myth

Well, then, how do you propose we get rid of the stupid kids?

Playgrounds won't cut it anymore. No more metal, and no more asphalt to fall on.

Cars?? Not a chance. The little snowflakes have 20 pounds of protective gear on whenever they go out to play.

Every toy that could possibly choke them to death has been banned.

All the household cleaners are becoming natural citrus-based cleaners.

We need to make the punishment for child molestation the death penalty.

Then, we'll give the molesters some real motivation to kill the little idiots who are dumb enough to help them find their "lost dog".
 
2007-11-21 02:23:55 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org

Come a little closer sweet cheeks!


(shocked no one has posted it sooner!)
 
2007-11-21 02:24:34 PM  
Fark off, subby.

Read the damn stats: Most true pedophiles molest children they already know -- grandchildren, nieces, nephews, stepchildren -- and have easy access to. The instances where a kid is actually snatched off the street corner by a pedophile is actually VERY rare, despite how blown up it is by the overzealous, sensationalist media (and I am the media, so take that for what it's worth).

Every family's got a funny uncle. Even yours, subtard.

Restricting where sex offenders can live does nothing but drive them underground and hampers their efforts to actually become productive citizens. If they're so damn dangerous, they shouldn't be let out of prison. And as others have pointed out, there are some people who don't belong on the farking sex offender registry.

A revolution is coming, folks, and the damn politicians better start thinking logically instead of what they think the reactionary unwashed masses want.
 
2007-11-21 02:27:18 PM  
If someone is a likely danger to others, they should be in custody. Blurring the line between a free citizen and a criminal is not a solution to anything.

I can get behind this. Never, ever, ever, let them out. They WILL re-offend. With increasing brutality.

I also agree that the label is too broad. But on the other hand, to compare them with drug users (for recidivism figures) is just patently absurd.
 
2007-11-21 02:27:53 PM  
SchlingFo: Every toy that could possibly choke them to death has been banned.

You know who else likes kids without gag reflexes?
 
2007-11-21 02:28:55 PM  
How long before Nancy Grace picks up on this story and starts spouting her usual holier-than-thou I-have-no-clue-what-I'm-talking-about bullshiat?
 
2007-11-21 02:28:56 PM  
Not real concerned. Call me when they come out with child molester's list.

This sex offenders list really means nothing. I still don't understand exactly why it exists,
 
2007-11-21 02:29:09 PM  
It must really suck big, adult dick for a sex offender to have to bail when the ice cream truck drives by.
 
2007-11-21 02:30:08 PM  

I think the idea behind the law was good, but it has gone too far.


Actually no, it's not good. It's a terrible idea all around.

Either a person does their time and is released back into society with full rights (after any probationary period ends, which is standard practice for centuries) or they are kept in jail as being far too dangerous to release back into the general public.

This "offender's list" is an outright confession by the state(s) that they are either releasing known dangerous people back into the mainstream, or that they are quite happy to destroy the lives of people they've declared as rehabilitated and eligible to mingle with common society again.

They are a travesty of justice no matter which way you look at them. They are a bad idea in concept and in practice.
 
2007-11-21 02:32:44 PM  
that is good news for the guy who happened to take a leak in a public place, possible bad news for the future victims of an actual child diddler.
 
2007-11-21 02:34:20 PM  
rigamrts: man these laws don't do shiat except give the parents the fantasy that that the gov. is protecting them.

THIS

Firstly, I am a parent and would personally castrate anyone who violated my son. But I'm a realistic human being who knows that these laws don't work. Let's look at the facts--the sex offender is supposed to register so that local police and the neighbors know where he is. And this is supposed to---do what, exactly? Make him less likely to molest a child again? Absolutely not. It will make him less likely to molest a LOCAL child, perhaps, but that's about it. Won't stop him from driving a town or 2 over & molesting a child there.

There's a registered "sex offender" one block over from my house. His "offense" was having sex w/his girlfriend in the high school parking lot. He was 17, she was 18. He's registered for having sex in a public place, SHE'S registered for statuatory rape.

Yeah, I feel a whole lot safer now. Thank you Megan's Law.
 
2007-11-21 02:35:18 PM  
they allow children near churches?!

wtf?
 
2007-11-21 02:35:25 PM  
howdoibegin Quote 2007-11-21 02:04:12 PM
SchlingFo

The stupid kids aren't weeded out of the gene pool anymore.

Neither were they when you were growing up, apparently.

/"personal choice" eugenics are a myth


Wow, I can't believe you hooked one so fast SchlingFo. Even with such bait. Nice catch.
 
2007-11-21 02:35:38 PM  
Has there been any research to see if the sex offender list actually helps protect children? In states that have tougher sex offender laws are there less repeat offenders?
 
2007-11-21 02:35:54 PM  
MichB1
I can get behind this. Never, ever, ever, let them out. They WILL re-offend. With increasing brutality.

You do know that the recidivism rate of sex offenders is actually quite low? Child sex offenders have somewhere between a 10 and a 40% recidivism rate, meaning 60-90% are not repeat offenders.
 
2007-11-21 02:37:46 PM  
Is this the witch burning thread?

YeeHAWWW!!! I gun gitz me some mathces!!!!!1
 
2007-11-21 02:37:57 PM  
mrexcess: Exile is not justice. Shunning is not justice.

dude i was just joking bout the whole alaska thing

the sex offendor list is so farked up everyone is a sex offendor


or do you remember the time you farked some 16 year old hotie in your car back in high school or the time you played doctor on you 9 year old neighbor when you where 10 or 11. damn pedo's all of us lol!

lets fix the part where we mark who an offender and who is not so the guy who pisses on the street just pisses on the street.


oh and ladies don't think i haven't thought about you your the worst of all of em. crying how it not fair. getting 2 years probation on a promise not to reoffend. you suck. get a life and do your time. men are more likley to get a stay in jail over ladies who rape children it sickens me. ladies should get the same as men when it comes to child rape.

if i had my choice i'd put all you adults who think it's ok to fark childern away for life so you could never have a chance to reoffend.
 
2007-11-21 02:39:18 PM  
Ryan2065 Has there been any research to see if the sex offender list actually helps protect children? In states that have tougher sex offender laws are there less repeat offenders?


The only research noted is that politicians who line up to pass such laws receive tons of votes from ignorant schlubs who probably shouldn't be empowered to vote in the first place. That's all the research they care to look at.

/sad
//but true
 
2007-11-21 02:39:19 PM  
Sum Dum Gai: MichB1
I can get behind this. Never, ever, ever, let them out. They WILL re-offend. With increasing brutality.

You do know that the recidivism rate of sex offenders is actually quite low? Child sex offenders have somewhere between a 10 and a 40% recidivism rate, meaning 60-90% are not repeat offenders.


Wow...only 10-40% molest children? That's pretty low, right? Think how rare it'd be if we all only molested children 10-40% of the time.

/Wait, what?
 
2007-11-21 02:39:51 PM  
I'm an "absolute no one" and I am getting a kick out of these replies.
 
2007-11-21 02:41:14 PM  
MichB1: If someone is a likely danger to others, they should be in custody. Blurring the line between a free citizen and a criminal is not a solution to anything.

I can get behind this. Never, ever, ever, let them out. They WILL re-offend. With increasing brutality.

I also agree that the label is too broad. But on the other hand, to compare them with drug users (for recidivism figures) is just patently absurd.


From the DOJ's website:
"Sex offenders were less likely than non-sex offenders to be rearrested for any offense -- 43 percent of sex offenders versus 68 percent of non-sex offenders."

Link (new window)
 
2007-11-21 02:41:35 PM  
Sum Dum Gai: MichB1
I can get behind this. Never, ever, ever, let them out. They WILL re-offend. With increasing brutality.

You do know that the recidivism rate of sex offenders is actually quite low? Child sex offenders have somewhere between a 10 and a 40% recidivism rate, meaning 60-90% are not repeat offenders.


You know what the recidivism rate of sex offenders if you keep them behind bars?
 
2007-11-21 02:43:23 PM  
Ashrams
You know what the recidivism rate of sex offenders if you keep them behind bars?

The same could be said of any criminal, should we just make all crime give an automatic life sentence?
 
2007-11-21 02:44:45 PM  
Asa Phelps: *shrug* we shouldn't have registered sex offenders running around.

If they're a genuine danger to children, we should parole enough potheads and nonviolent offenders that we have room to keep them in prison forever.


Sex Offender != child rapist

That "sex offender" could be a 19 year old guy who farked his 17 year old girlfriend and then married her. Or some guy who took a whiz in an alley after one beer too many and got caught. Or a 16 year old kid who gave another 16 year old kid a playboy.

I'm all for locking up serial rapists for life, regardless of whether they prey on adults or children, males or females.

I'm against branding people who pose no threat to society as "sex offenders" so that panty-waisted NIMBYs can have a false illusion of safety and crooked politicians can get re-elected.
 
2007-11-21 02:45:45 PM  
My best friend bought a brand new house in a subdivision, only to find out later that she shared her back fence with a sex offender, registered for pedophilia. She has 3 small kids. She is not happy.

I understand that it's not going to solve the problem by keeping them a certain distance from schools and churches. However, I wish someone would come up with an idea to prevent people from being stuck living next to one because privacy laws prevented the home builder from divulging such information before everything was official.
 
2007-11-21 02:46:47 PM  
sex offender laws and the sex offender list is ridiculous, after you've served your time you're still paying for it.
 
2007-11-21 02:47:00 PM  
If sex offenders aren't allowed near churches, priests will be late to work!
 
2007-11-21 02:49:17 PM  
A few years ago a British tabloid published the pictures of sex offenders on their front page. For weeks afterwards anyone who was unlucky enough to resemble one of those people got beat up and bricks through their windows. It's easy to get people worked up over this stuff.
 
2007-11-21 02:49:37 PM  
crabapple: I'm an "absolute no one" and I am getting a kick out of these replies.

I'm also getting a kick out of these replies, but my attorney has advised against remitting the reason for that reaction.
 
2007-11-21 02:49:54 PM  
Sum Dum Gai: You do know that the recidivism rate of sex offenders is actually quite low? Child sex offenders have somewhere between a 10 and a 40% recidivism rate, meaning 60-90% are not repeat offenders.

Link (new window)

Within 3 years following their release, 5.3% of sex offenders (men who had committed rape or sexual assault) were rearrested for another sex crime.

Link (new window)

Sex offenders were less likely than non-sex offenders to be rearrested for any offense -- 43 percent of sex offenders versus 68 percent of non-sex offenders.

Approximately 4,300 child molesters were released from prisons in 15 States in 1994. An estimated 3.3% of these 4,300 were rearrested for another sex crime against a child within 3 years of release from prison.
 
2007-11-21 02:50:03 PM  
If sex offenders aren't allowed near churches, priests will be late to work!

I'm going to hell for giggling at that.

/still giggling, damn it
 
2007-11-21 02:51:36 PM  
How far away from the public do people on the Murderer's Registry have to live? What? There is no Murderer's Registry? They paid their debt and should be allowed to live (and kill again) in peace you say? Well, at least they didn't expose themselves to someone on a bus stop - now those people are dangerous!

All these super-strict residency laws do is encourage sex offenders to drop out of the system. I wonder how many thousands of unregistered S.O.s there are out there. I wonder how many live real close to a school or daycare and no one even knows. I can see the reasoning behind these laws but the execution leaves a bit to be desired.
 
2007-11-21 02:52:10 PM  
As a sex offender I am really getting a kick......
 
2007-11-21 02:53:19 PM  
It's a good thing other states have Inviso-Barriers to keep sex offenders out. My god, think of the consequences if they could just drive or walk to an area where kids congregate. Thank god at 1,001 feet they lose the ability to do that.
 
2007-11-21 02:53:21 PM  
teeny: My best friend bought a brand new house in a subdivision, only to find out later that she shared her back fence with a sex offender, registered for pedophilia. She has 3 small kids. She is not happy.

I understand that it's not going to solve the problem by keeping them a certain distance from schools and churches. However, I wish someone would come up with an idea to prevent people from being stuck living next to one because privacy laws prevented the home builder from divulging such information before everything was official.


You know the guy is a human who can change right?
 
2007-11-21 02:53:38 PM  
Ashrams: You know what the recidivism rate of sex offenders if you keep them behind bars?

You know what the recidivism rate of any convicted felon is if you execute them immediately after the jury verdict comes in?
 
2007-11-21 02:56:54 PM  
MikeMc: Ashrams: You know what the recidivism rate of sex offenders if you keep them behind bars?

You know what the recidivism rate of any convicted felon is if you execute them immediately after the jury verdict comes in?


Because a jury would -never- convict the wrong person. Ever.
 
2007-11-21 02:58:11 PM  
As someone who works for a treatment center for committed sex offenders, all I have to say is LOUD NOISES!!!
 
2007-11-21 02:58:47 PM  
Chastain86: Fellows: Oh, shut up submittard.

Hmmm. Spoken like somebody that's shown up at a house with wine coolers and a Cheetah Girls CD only to find this guy waiting for him.



I thought I might get arrested just buying the Cheetag Girls cd, bad day to wear my trench coat.

Too be fair, I had a date with Mr. Hansen, he asked me to wear a school uniform, apparently he is into age play.



/And heavy hairy guys as well it turns out.
 
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